| A lot of insecure Vanderbilt boosters on this thread: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12535579/Vanderbilt-Universitys-chancellor-whines-email-students-58-000-year-college-drops-News-rankings-private-students-mock-schools-rich-privilege.html |
| Williams is not really well known outside New England and Vanderbilt is a name known nationally and internationally. |
Vanderbilt is weird. My kid was really considering it. Agree that it's a fun social "gameday" darty vibe. Lots of parties. And that is definitely appealing in today's T20 college landscape. But zero - no - depth. There is no intellectual curiosity. No, "wow, that's fascinating, let me Google this or talk to the lecturer", with professors, lectures, with anything. Kid sat in on a class. Most of the class was sleeping. Do your diligence. My kid turned the spot down. |
If "darty" means Dartmouth, I don't think Dartmouth and Vanderbilt are similar. Dartmouth has more in common with Williams. |
Darty = day partay |
I suspect this is an LAC vs. pre-professional national university issue. Certainly you can understand that 18 year olds self-select themselves into one or the other. They were largely poised from the outset to prioritize Pondering the Unanswerable Questions vs. making bank. Yes, there is overlap (DS is such a person) but the kind of male who targets NU, Penn, Dartmouth, Vandy, Cornell and their ilk is not interchangeable with the type of male who is Midd or bust. The overlap young man is likely to be an athlete with NE ties who picks a sporty NESCAC with the longtime goal of following Dad to Wall st. I mentor post-bacs from NU, Penn, JHU, Rice and Vandy currently and while they put up amazing CVs they are not generally open-ended thinkers as a cohort. But everyone would still label them accomplished and smart (or they wouldn’t have been selected for our position) |
| Visit both in March and then decide. |
| Vandy is hot and fun great connections nobody outside of liberal snobs has heard of Williams. |
It’s fundamentally a southern issue A random nescac like Wesleyan or lac like Haverford will have the above in far greater quantity than even duke. And if duke doesn’t have that, vandy will never have that The south still has a plantation mentality. The physical world and material culture is what drives people in that part of the world for centuries. There is no concept of mind |
You sound like an a$$. Is that more clear? |
Agree, a more intellectual kid would be happier at Williams. I have had multiple family members attend Vandy, all are nice, relatively successful people who aren’t setting the world on fire. |
| It puts me in the actual depths of despair that a kid who got into Williams is thinking of going Vanderbilt instead. |
same |
Sundresses hit different in the south |
I’m from the South and now live up north. I agree with this to a certain extent as it applies to the “good old boys” and southern belles types. But those types are not the majority of the south so ultimately I think it’s too simplistic and doesn’t account for the racial and socioeconomic diversity in the south. 55% of the US’s African American population is in the south. There is a lot of poverty in the south. There is still systemic racism and segregation academies and a lot of education inequality in the south. So saying on the whole southerners are not intellectually curious or only interested in material items sounds racist and classist and not very nuanced thinking. |