Williams vs Vandy

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:A lot of insecure Vanderbilt boosters on this thread: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12535579/Vanderbilt-Universitys-chancellor-whines-email-students-58-000-year-college-drops-News-rankings-private-students-mock-schools-rich-privilege.html


Vanderbilt is weird. My kid was really considering it. Agree that it's a fun social "gameday" darty vibe. Lots of parties. And that is definitely appealing in today's T20 college landscape.
But zero - no - depth. There is no intellectual curiosity. No, "wow, that's fascinating, let me Google this or talk to the lecturer", with professors, lectures, with anything.
Kid sat in on a class. Most of the class was sleeping. Do your diligence.
My kid turned the spot down.


Agree, a more intellectual kid would be happier at Williams. I have had multiple family members attend Vandy, all are nice, relatively successful people who aren’t setting the world on fire.
Anonymous
It puts me in the actual depths of despair that a kid who got into Williams is thinking of going Vanderbilt instead.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It puts me in the actual depths of despair that a kid who got into Williams is thinking of going Vanderbilt instead.


same
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It puts me in the actual depths of despair that a kid who got into Williams is thinking of going Vanderbilt instead.


Sundresses hit different in the south
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A lot of insecure Vanderbilt boosters on this thread: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12535579/Vanderbilt-Universitys-chancellor-whines-email-students-58-000-year-college-drops-News-rankings-private-students-mock-schools-rich-privilege.html


Vanderbilt is weird. My kid was really considering it. Agree that it's a fun social "gameday" darty vibe. Lots of parties. And that is definitely appealing in today's T20 college landscape.
But zero - no - depth. There is no intellectual curiosity. No, "wow, that's fascinating, let me Google this or talk to the lecturer", with professors, lectures, with anything.
Kid sat in on a class. Most of the class was sleeping. Do your diligence.
My kid turned the spot down.


It’s fundamentally a southern issue

A random nescac like Wesleyan or lac like Haverford will have the above in far greater quantity than even duke.

And if duke doesn’t have that, vandy will never have that

The south still has a plantation mentality.

The physical world and material culture is what drives people in that part of the world for centuries. There is no concept of mind


I’m from the South and now live up north. I agree with this to a certain extent as it applies to the “good old boys” and southern belles types. But those types are not the majority of the south so ultimately I think it’s too simplistic and doesn’t account for the racial and socioeconomic diversity in the south. 55% of the US’s African American population is in the south. There is a lot of poverty in the south. There is still systemic racism and segregation academies and a lot of education inequality in the south. So saying on the whole southerners are not intellectually curious or only interested in material items sounds racist and classist and not very nuanced thinking.
Anonymous
^Probably not much demand for sundresses in Williamstown.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A lot of insecure Vanderbilt boosters on this thread: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12535579/Vanderbilt-Universitys-chancellor-whines-email-students-58-000-year-college-drops-News-rankings-private-students-mock-schools-rich-privilege.html


Vanderbilt is weird. My kid was really considering it. Agree that it's a fun social "gameday" darty vibe. Lots of parties. And that is definitely appealing in today's T20 college landscape.
But zero - no - depth. There is no intellectual curiosity. No, "wow, that's fascinating, let me Google this or talk to the lecturer", with professors, lectures, with anything.
Kid sat in on a class. Most of the class was sleeping. Do your diligence.
My kid turned the spot down.


It’s fundamentally a southern issue

A random nescac like Wesleyan or lac like Haverford will have the above in far greater quantity than even duke.

And if duke doesn’t have that, vandy will never have that

The south still has a plantation mentality.

The physical world and material culture is what drives people in that part of the world for centuries. There is no concept of mind


You are responding to my post.
I don't think it's a southern thing. After all, outside the south, the largest number of kids come from the NE. There's a country club vibe (whether CT or VA or SC) that permeates everything. Maybe it's a sense of entitlement? (and we are UHNW full pay family, so it wasn't a not fitting in thing).

I can't imagine a classroom full of sleeping students at a lecture at Duke, Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, or Stanford.

Its almost like Vanderbilt has gone too far in the opposite direction of the "nerdy" schools. Wish there was better balance.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We've had Vandy grads absolutely bomb on interviews and in work product at our firm.

And the main reason is they are very intellectually uncurious and do not go 'above and beyond'.

This is not an issue we have from nescacs or even seven sisters schools where kids make up for anything with their earnestness.

I'm not sure how exactly vandy has a sub 5% acceptance rate.



(New poster to this thread.)

The above quoted post is total bs neither well written or creative. Love the childish term "uncurious". Cleary written by a poorly educated youngster with no real world experience.


Dp, but this is not a good look.


Please translate your brief comment as I do not understand what you intended to convey. Thanks.


You sound like an a$$. Is that more clear?


Ahhh. An LAC graduate.
Anonymous
There is a private school near me (Philly) that is sending ten kids to Vanderbilt. TEN!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There is a private school near me (Philly) that is sending ten kids to Vanderbilt. TEN!


Very impressive !!!!!!!!!!

Which private school ?

How many to Williams ?

TIA
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We've had Vandy grads absolutely bomb on interviews and in work product at our firm.

And the main reason is they are very intellectually uncurious and do not go 'above and beyond'.

This is not an issue we have from nescacs or even seven sisters schools where kids make up for anything with their earnestness.

I'm not sure how exactly vandy has a sub 5% acceptance rate.



(New poster to this thread.)

The above quoted post is total bs neither well written or creative. Love the childish term "uncurious". Cleary written by a poorly educated youngster with no real world experience.


Dp, but this is not a good look.


Please translate your brief comment as I do not understand what you intended to convey. Thanks.


You sound like an a$$. Is that more clear?


Ahhh. An LAC graduate.


Nope
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It puts me in the actual depths of despair that a kid who got into Williams is thinking of going Vanderbilt instead.


I find it perplexing that someone would apply to both Williams and Vanderbilt. Williams is a small slac in the middle of nowhere. Vandy is a national university in the middle of a thriving city. They are very different.

I think academically they're comparable these days. People seem to have very outdated views of both schools. Williams isn't quite the monkish bastion of intellectual pursuits that people seem to think it is. More than 40 percent of Williams students are recruited athletes. It's a rich jock school. And Vanderbilt is lot nerdier today than people seem to assume. The era of debutants and so on is a very long time ago. And more than 70 percent of students at Vandy come from outside the South, which is also not a monolith. You know people in the South are actual human beings with lots of different viewpoints.

I think the biggest difference is that Vanderbilt offers a much broader array of possibilities than Williams. It's not 1950 anymore.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There is a private school near me (Philly) that is sending ten kids to Vanderbilt. TEN!


I don't believe this for a moment.
Anonymous
4 years in Williamstown no thanks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a private school near me (Philly) that is sending ten kids to Vanderbilt. TEN!


I don't believe this for a moment.


OK, I was wrong, in that it’s not the school I thought it was. But this school has ten kids going to Vanderbilt:

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