Differences in prestige over WashU versus an ivy like Cornell, Dartmouth or Brown?

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on major. Dyson's prestige over WashU, huge. Many on this board look down on Cornell contract colleges.

Many on this board look down on Cornell, period. Cornell is much closer to WashU than it is to Dartmouth or Brown.

Cornell is in the JHU, WashU, Rice, Chicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Vanderbilt tier. It is a decided step below all the other Ivies and WASP.

Replace JHU and Chicago with Emory and CMU then sure. JHU and Chicago are a stop above Cornell, closer to Brown. Dartmouth is also in the Cornell group.

JHU and Chicago are drone schools that are relatively easy admits ED. JHU (WashU is its natural twin) is probably the most overrated private (as opposed to public) on US News. If you really believe it is a top 10 school, let’s just say you are not who you think you are.

Nothing relatively easy about JHU and Chicago admits. Although Chicago is a bit easier than JHU. I'm a counselor at a DC private. I would know much more than you. JHU rejects go to WashU.

do the dc kids want to go to jhu more than cornell or dartmouth?

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Huge

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on major. Dyson's prestige over WashU, huge. Many on this board look down on Cornell contract colleges.

Many on this board look down on Cornell, period. Cornell is much closer to WashU than it is to Dartmouth or Brown.

Cornell is in the JHU, WashU, Rice, Chicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Vanderbilt tier. It is a decided step below all the other Ivies and WASP.

Replace JHU and Chicago with Emory and CMU then sure. JHU and Chicago are a stop above Cornell, closer to Brown. Dartmouth is also in the Cornell group.

JHU and Chicago are drone schools that are relatively easy admits ED. JHU (WashU is its natural twin) is probably the most overrated private (as opposed to public) on US News. If you really believe it is a top 10 school, let’s just say you are not who you think you are.

Nothing relatively easy about JHU and Chicago admits. Although Chicago is a bit easier than JHU. I'm a counselor at a DC private. I would know much more than you. JHU rejects go to WashU.

I sincerely doubt that you are a college counselor. In all my years in private schools, I have never encountered students who applied to both JHU and WashU. In fact, JHU is not popular at all with DC private students because it's known as a humorless, grind school. As a college counselor, you should know that. it is more likely that Ivy deferrals ED2 to WashU (so called "Princeton rejects")--and that's a good thing. WashU still gets the top students.

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I think WashU has a name problem. So many schools that have the name Washington in it, including Washington State University, which people in Seattle refer to as "Wazoo" and is a school full of people who couldn't get into the Univ. of Washington. I never liked Rice either because I'm Asian American.

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Anonymous wrote:I think WashU has a name problem. So many schools that have the name Washington in it, including Washington State University, which people in Seattle refer to as "Wazoo" and is a school full of people who couldn't get into the Univ. of Washington. I never liked Rice either because I'm Asian American.

This is really funny!

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Anonymous wrote:In general it depends on who is the audience?

In a dinner with your friends? Who cares, but clearly Ivy’s more prestigious by far.

If the audience is potential employers. Then it depends on major, and that difference is a lot less an dit could be negligible.

For Academia if the interest is moving forward to a top Grad School program, zero difference.

For the future in case you want to start your own business….it just depends what area and who the investors are. Most informed and educated people understand the strengths of Wash U. But there is no question the Ivy brand will be more benefitial under those circles.

There is no easy answer. And it is not black and white.

As someone who has kids who graduated from both schools, this is the correct answer. But once you add the rest of the world to the equation, there really isn’t any comparison. 100% of the employers put Cornell much higher than any of the others mentioned here.

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That Brown, Cornell, and Dartmouth are "Ivy" doesn't matter. That really shouldn't be in the subject. You don't pick a school based on that (or shouldn't). Ivy status alone doesn't matter. If the school was Stanford, you wouldn't say "an Ivy like X."

In the midwest and in biomedical fields, WashU has a great reputation. Grad schools and most elite employers will also know it. However, it is still more regionally known among more people (many still get it confused with Univ. of Washington).

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on major. Dyson's prestige over WashU, huge. Many on this board look down on Cornell contract colleges.

Many on this board look down on Cornell, period. Cornell is much closer to WashU than it is to Dartmouth or Brown.

Cornell is in the JHU, WashU, Rice, Chicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Vanderbilt tier. It is a decided step below all the other Ivies and WASP.

Replace JHU and Chicago with Emory and CMU then sure. JHU and Chicago are a stop above Cornell, closer to Brown. Dartmouth is also in the Cornell group.

JHU and Chicago are drone schools that are relatively easy admits ED. JHU (WashU is its natural twin) is probably the most overrated private (as opposed to public) on US News. If you really believe it is a top 10 school, let’s just say you are not who you think you are.

Nothing relatively easy about JHU and Chicago admits. Although Chicago is a bit easier than JHU. I'm a counselor at a DC private. I would know much more than you. JHU rejects go to WashU.

I sincerely doubt that you are a college counselor. In all my years in private schools, I have never encountered students who applied to both JHU and WashU. In fact, JHU is not popular at all with DC private students because it's known as a humorless, grind school. As a college counselor, you should know that. it is more likely that Ivy deferrals ED2 to WashU (so called "Princeton rejects")--and that's a good thing. WashU still gets the top students.

Might be a college counselor: many tend to be idiots, after all. This one thinks there is “nothing relatively easy” about Chicago and JHU admits relative to Dartmouth and Brown. Please tell us who you are so we can get you fired.

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Anonymous wrote:Right now Wash U is worthless.

And dangerous for any student given the laws in MO.

It is only going to get worse.

Sending a kid there now makes zero financial sense as well. They will not be getting a job or accepted to med school.

So, in other words: You’re hoping your kid will get into Wash. U. off its wait list?

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on major. Dyson's prestige over WashU, huge. Many on this board look down on Cornell contract colleges.

Many on this board look down on Cornell, period. Cornell is much closer to WashU than it is to Dartmouth or Brown.

Cornell is in the JHU, WashU, Rice, Chicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Vanderbilt tier. It is a decided step below all the other Ivies and WASP.

Replace JHU and Chicago with Emory and CMU then sure. JHU and Chicago are a stop above Cornell, closer to Brown. Dartmouth is also in the Cornell group.

JHU and Chicago are drone schools that are relatively easy admits ED. JHU (WashU is its natural twin) is probably the most overrated private (as opposed to public) on US News. If you really believe it is a top 10 school, let’s just say you are not who you think you are.

Nothing relatively easy about JHU and Chicago admits. Although Chicago is a bit easier than JHU. I'm a counselor at a DC private. I would know much more than you. JHU rejects go to WashU.

do the dc kids want to go to jhu more than cornell or dartmouth?

The premeds do, but no generally.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on major. Dyson's prestige over WashU, huge. Many on this board look down on Cornell contract colleges.

Many on this board look down on Cornell, period. Cornell is much closer to WashU than it is to Dartmouth or Brown.

Cornell is in the JHU, WashU, Rice, Chicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Vanderbilt tier. It is a decided step below all the other Ivies and WASP.

Replace JHU and Chicago with Emory and CMU then sure. JHU and Chicago are a stop above Cornell, closer to Brown. Dartmouth is also in the Cornell group.

JHU and Chicago are drone schools that are relatively easy admits ED. JHU (WashU is its natural twin) is probably the most overrated private (as opposed to public) on US News. If you really believe it is a top 10 school, let’s just say you are not who you think you are.

Nothing relatively easy about JHU and Chicago admits. Although Chicago is a bit easier than JHU. I'm a counselor at a DC private. I would know much more than you. JHU rejects go to WashU.

I sincerely doubt that you are a college counselor. In all my years in private schools, I have never encountered students who applied to both JHU and WashU. In fact, JHU is not popular at all with DC private students because it's known as a humorless, grind school. As a college counselor, you should know that. it is more likely that Ivy deferrals ED2 to WashU (so called "Princeton rejects")--and that's a good thing. WashU still gets the top students.

Might be a college counselor: many tend to be idiots, after all. This one thinks there is “nothing relatively easy” about Chicago and JHU admits relative to Dartmouth and Brown. Please tell us who you are so we can get you fired.

Are you responding to yourself?

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It’s not prestigious if nobody has heard of it.

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I don't recall WashU being viewed as prestigious when I was in HS, so that affects my view -- see the thread on what schools were not selective in the 90s/early 2000s but are now.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't recall WashU being viewed as prestigious when I was in HS, so that affects my view -- see the thread on what schools were not selective in the 90s/early 2000s but are now.

I'm from the midwest, and it was somewhat prestigious in the 90s. Not as prestigious as UChicago, but definitely on my radar when I was applying to colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't recall WashU being viewed as prestigious when I was in HS, so that affects my view -- see the thread on what schools were not selective in the 90s/early 2000s but are now.

So you're just old. Anyway you all can hold onto ivy prestige as long as you want to, but the rest of the world isn't. You can tell by grad school rankings and placement in finance, ivy schools like Brown have fallen behind Emory, Vandy etc. WashU isn't far behind them. The government and media are against the ivys, it's inevitable at this point.