Middlebury vs Hamilton

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Anonymous wrote:Hamiliton freshman dorm has no AC. Child with bad allergies went elsewhere. Recruited swimmer.

Middlebury has a new freshman dorm under construction. The upcoming class is getting a brand new space.

https://www.middlebury.edu/alumni-and-families/stories/new-residence-hall-construction


How do gender neutral bathrooms work?


I’m pretty sure that they work the same as the gender neutral bathrooms in your home.


Not even remotely close to the same thing. Imagine having a big, explosive diarrhea bubbling up from a bad dining hall meal, making into the "gender neutral" community bathroom seconds before your sphincter bursts, and seeing your massive crush from down the hall brushing her teeth at the sink. She shoots you a big smile, clearly oblivious to what's brewing in your colon. You now have two options: 1) scurry into a stall, close the door, sit on the pot and proceed to blow your crush right out of the bathroom with an 8.9 on the Rectum Scale, or 2) turn around and sprint toward the bathroom at the other end of the hall, knowing your efforts are futile, as you can already feel the first few yellowish-brown liquid droplets seeping out. You end up diarrhea'ing your pants right in front of a mixed-group of hallmates who are getting off the elevator. They smell it first, then see it running down your leg. There's no denying what just happened. By dinner, it'll be all over the dorm.

All of this as a college freshman still adjusting to your new life away from home and trying to establish your position in a new social pecking order. And all of it could have been avoided if the bathrooms were simply single-gender and you didn't have to make a split-second decision about blowing a diarrhea in front of an attractive member of the opposite sex.


Fwiw I am in my mid-50s and had gender neutral bathrooms as a freshman at Penn a hundred years ago. (Of course we didn't call it gender neutral back then.) Somehow we all managed to survive the many indignities that transpire in shared living situations without long-term physical or psychological damage. My oldest kid is at another New England SLAC and has lived in several smaller dorms (more like houses) with shared bathrooms and he too does not appear to have suffered as a result. I'm sure the kids at Middlebury will navigate this treacherous situation successfully. Go troll somewhere else.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I but don’t have 250 sexually active young adults walking around my house.


I’m. It sure how gender neutral bathrooms play here. When I was in college finding somewhere to have sex wasn’t that difficult and I can confidently say that same sex bathrooms and showers were options.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Along with gender neutral bathrooms they have gender neutral dorm rooms.


Why do the idiots always appear in normal threads?


But it is true. https://www.middlebury.edu/residential-life/housing-overview/all-gender-housing
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hamiliton freshman dorm has no AC. Child with bad allergies went elsewhere. Recruited swimmer.

Middlebury has a new freshman dorm under construction. The upcoming class is getting a brand new space.

https://www.middlebury.edu/alumni-and-families/stories/new-residence-hall-construction


How do gender neutral bathrooms work?

The same way a normal dorm bathroom does. Honestly, where is the confusion?
Anonymous
Hamiliton freshman dorm has no AC. Child with bad allergies went elsewhere. Recruited swimmer.


Maybe because a/c wouldn’t be needed there for more than 5-10 days a semester? Brown doesn’t have a/c in dorms either. Neither does Yale. Or Harvard. Would your kids turn those down too?
Anonymous
My DC graduated from Hamilton and is in IB in NYC. DC found that a number of banks have a very strong Hamilton alumni network where the alums really advocate for Ham grads and some have spots allocated for Ham students in their internship programs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Along with gender neutral bathrooms they have gender neutral dorm rooms.


Why do the idiots always appear in normal threads?


But it is true. https://www.middlebury.edu/residential-life/housing-overview/all-gender-housing


The conversation was about AC and Allergies yet someone had to drag it into gender studies because the press release mentioned all gender bathrooms.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hamiliton freshman dorm has no AC. Child with bad allergies went elsewhere. Recruited swimmer.

Middlebury has a new freshman dorm under construction. The upcoming class is getting a brand new space.

https://www.middlebury.edu/alumni-and-families/stories/new-residence-hall-construction


How do gender neutral bathrooms work?


I’m pretty sure that they work the same as the gender neutral bathrooms in your home.


Not even remotely close to the same thing. Imagine having a big, explosive diarrhea bubbling up from a bad dining hall meal, making into the "gender neutral" community bathroom seconds before your sphincter bursts, and seeing your massive crush from down the hall brushing her teeth at the sink. She shoots you a big smile, clearly oblivious to what's brewing in your colon. You now have two options: 1) scurry into a stall, close the door, sit on the pot and proceed to blow your crush right out of the bathroom with an 8.9 on the Rectum Scale, or 2) turn around and sprint toward the bathroom at the other end of the hall, knowing your efforts are futile, as you can already feel the first few yellowish-brown liquid droplets seeping out. You end up diarrhea'ing your pants right in front of a mixed-group of hallmates who are getting off the elevator. They smell it first, then see it running down your leg. There's no denying what just happened. By dinner, it'll be all over the dorm.

All of this as a college freshman still adjusting to your new life away from home and trying to establish your position in a new social pecking order. And all of it could have been avoided if the bathrooms were simply single-gender and you didn't have to make a split-second decision about blowing a diarrhea in front of an attractive member of the opposite sex.


Sounds like a pertinent lesson for later in life.


If the gay kids can deal with sharing bathrooms with their massive crushes, the straights can too.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hamiliton freshman dorm has no AC. Child with bad allergies went elsewhere. Recruited swimmer.


Middlebury dorm that we saw on our tour had no a/c either.


Surely it's colder/higher altitude there though?


What? Neither location has much need for AC. These are both schools for students that are fine with plenty of cold and snow.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I prefer Middlebury's location. Fewer gloomy,overcast days.


Based on information available from Best Places, Clinton, NY experiences more sunny days annually than Middlebury, VT.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hamiliton freshman dorm has no AC. Child with bad allergies went elsewhere. Recruited swimmer.

Middlebury has a new freshman dorm under construction. The upcoming class is getting a brand new space.

https://www.middlebury.edu/alumni-and-families/stories/new-residence-hall-construction


How do gender neutral bathrooms work?


I’m pretty sure that they work the same as the gender neutral bathrooms in your home.


Not even remotely close to the same thing. Imagine having a big, explosive diarrhea bubbling up from a bad dining hall meal, making into the "gender neutral" community bathroom seconds before your sphincter bursts, and seeing your massive crush from down the hall brushing her teeth at the sink. She shoots you a big smile, clearly oblivious to what's brewing in your colon. You now have two options: 1) scurry into a stall, close the door, sit on the pot and proceed to blow your crush right out of the bathroom with an 8.9 on the Rectum Scale, or 2) turn around and sprint toward the bathroom at the other end of the hall, knowing your efforts are futile, as you can already feel the first few yellowish-brown liquid droplets seeping out. You end up diarrhea'ing your pants right in front of a mixed-group of hallmates who are getting off the elevator. They smell it first, then see it running down your leg. There's no denying what just happened. By dinner, it'll be all over the dorm.

All of this as a college freshman still adjusting to your new life away from home and trying to establish your position in a new social pecking order. And all of it could have been avoided if the bathrooms were simply single-gender and you didn't have to make a split-second decision about blowing a diarrhea in front of an attractive member of the opposite sex.


Fwiw I am in my mid-50s and had gender neutral bathrooms as a freshman at Penn a hundred years ago. (Of course we didn't call it gender neutral back then.) Somehow we all managed to survive the many indignities that transpire in shared living situations without long-term physical or psychological damage. My oldest kid is at another New England SLAC and has lived in several smaller dorms (more like houses) with shared bathrooms and he too does not appear to have suffered as a result. I'm sure the kids at Middlebury will navigate this treacherous situation successfully. Go troll somewhere else.

Amen. Also, all those "indignities" could happen in a same sex bathroom. Gender neutral bathrooms are in many schools and have been for ages. It's fine.
Anonymous
My dd goes to Hamilton and has had a great experience. I will say that the midd ski hill is pretty darn nice though. I’ve even heard of kids getting up early to skin up the hill, ski down and then head to breakfast before going to class. If that’s your thing, midd it is
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hamiliton freshman dorm has no AC. Child with bad allergies went elsewhere. Recruited swimmer.

Middlebury has a new freshman dorm under construction. The upcoming class is getting a brand new space.

https://www.middlebury.edu/alumni-and-families/stories/new-residence-hall-construction


How do gender neutral bathrooms work?


I’m pretty sure that they work the same as the gender neutral bathrooms in your home.


Not even remotely close to the same thing. Imagine having a big, explosive diarrhea bubbling up from a bad dining hall meal, making into the "gender neutral" community bathroom seconds before your sphincter bursts, and seeing your massive crush from down the hall brushing her teeth at the sink. She shoots you a big smile, clearly oblivious to what's brewing in your colon. You now have two options: 1) scurry into a stall, close the door, sit on the pot and proceed to blow your crush right out of the bathroom with an 8.9 on the Rectum Scale, or 2) turn around and sprint toward the bathroom at the other end of the hall, knowing your efforts are futile, as you can already feel the first few yellowish-brown liquid droplets seeping out. You end up diarrhea'ing your pants right in front of a mixed-group of hallmates who are getting off the elevator. They smell it first, then see it running down your leg. There's no denying what just happened. By dinner, it'll be all over the dorm.

All of this as a college freshman still adjusting to your new life away from home and trying to establish your position in a new social pecking order. And all of it could have been avoided if the bathrooms were simply single-gender and you didn't have to make a split-second decision about blowing a diarrhea in front of an attractive member of the opposite sex.


Fwiw I am in my mid-50s and had gender neutral bathrooms as a freshman at Penn a hundred years ago. (Of course we didn't call it gender neutral back then.) Somehow we all managed to survive the many indignities that transpire in shared living situations without long-term physical or psychological damage. My oldest kid is at another New England SLAC and has lived in several smaller dorms (more like houses) with shared bathrooms and he too does not appear to have suffered as a result. I'm sure the kids at Middlebury will navigate this treacherous situation successfully. Go troll somewhere else.

Amen. Also, all those "indignities" could happen in a same sex bathroom. Gender neutral bathrooms are in many schools and have been for ages. It's fine.


No they couldn't. If the dorm in the hypothetical example had had same sex bathrooms, the guy's crush wouldn't have been in there brushing her teeth. She would have been in the women's bathroom. He could have done his business in peace with no self-consciousness, and the embarrassments that befell him afterwards in both choose-your-own-adventure paths would have been prevented.
Anonymous
Ok folks let’s get back to the regularly scheduled program here. Any more relevant thought on ham v midd???
Hadn’t thought about the ski hill
Anonymous
Back in the day, I attended an accepted student reception (or something) at Hamilton. At the end of the class/meeting, I was met with a lovely lady telling me that my father was in the hospital. He thought he was having a heart attack; turns out, panic attack for me getting ready to go to college, and, because he thought Hamilton was way too remote and Utica (the nearest major city) too depressing. I ended up attending a different school. Fast forward, and I still find Utica depressing. BUT, Hamilton is a great school. For my DD, she wouldn't look at Hamilton and much preferred Middlebury and Colby to Hamilton. This is why: Middlebury is just that much bigger that it didn't feel that small. She found Burlington much nicer than Utica. She liked that Colby was near the water. In the end, she decided that all NESCAC schools are too remote and shifted gears and is going to a school near a city.
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