Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed

[Anonymous]

Serious question:
What is up with the “defend cops at any cost!l” attitude? I’ve seen it many times on DCUM and on news article comments.

Cops are just like normal people. They make mistakes. I don’t understand why people have to push all sorts of implausible scenarios in order to defend a cop. It’s just bizarre. I’d really like to understand the psychology of such views.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Serious question:
What is up with the “defend cops at any cost!l” attitude? I’ve seen it many times on DCUM and on news article comments.

Cops are just like normal people. They make mistakes. I don’t understand why people have to push all sorts of implausible scenarios in order to defend a cop. It’s just bizarre. I’d really like to understand the psychology of such views.

What’s up with the “cops are bad and always in the wrong” attitude?

Neither agenda is appropriate, but the latter gets a lot of play and anyone who dares defy that gets a lot of crap around here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I read somewhere (Fox news?) that the non-verbal, mentally disabled man who attacked the police officer posted perfectly coherent messages on Facebook and had, at some point, been in college studying Acctg and finance if I remember correctly.

There is a lot about this whole thing that simply does not make a great deal of sense to me.

It might help if you could remember where you read that, because its not been part of any of the mainstream reporting and I can't even find it when I google for key terms.

Google Heavy.com 5 facts that you need to know about Kenneth French. That's were I read it. I was mistaken that I had heard it on Fox, my apologies.

Hmm, it would be nice if you and Heavy provided the full details, such as that all of that education occurred over ten years ago.

If you know anything at all about mental health issues, TBIs, etc., you would know that nothing in that Heavy piece (seriously, you rely on Heavy for your information?) is remotely inconsistent with the accounts that have been provided of his mental state at the time of his death. Your post is ignorant, but it supports your agenda so I doubt you give a shit about how stupid it was.

You would call a traumatic brain injury a "developmental disability"? Maybe he fried his brain with drugs or got into a drunken brawl. We don't know what has caused his intellectual disability and I have no clue how long ago he went to college. Were the Facebook posts 10 years old, too, or were those more recent?

I guess my point is, there is more to this guy's story than meets the eye.

So you imagine because you want it to be true. Nothing as classy as smearing a dead man with rank speculation.

Dude does not sound developmentally disabled which is how some people are trying to portray him. Maybe he was schizophrenic? We just do not know.

If you do not know then why are you speculating?

Because pp is hateful.

Pp is right though.

This was on abc news and is a statement from the Russell family attorney
“The family believes he suffered from schizophrenia, but he had been taken off his medication due to other health complications, which may have affected his behavior that night, Galipo said.”


Of course this same guy calls an open handed slap “not an assault.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The smearing of the victim started pretty quickly.

It started in the first couple pages. It’s the pro-guns at any costs crowd. Plus, a few questionable LEOs and LE wannabes. My brother is in law enforcement. His family FB account expresses his dismay about the shooting, but he could never post that on his account that has coworkers as friends.

The victim attacked the cop and knocked the cop and his 1 1/2 baby to the ground. If you start with what we DO know you will see that this victim played a role in this whole thing.

Unless we are living in the ISIS caliphate that would not merit a death sentence.

+1 Nor the shooting of the man's parents, both of whom are in critical condition.

[Anonymous]

LAPD has placed the cop on administrative leave (i.e. a paid vacation.)
https://abcnews.go.com/US/off-duty-lapd-officer-allegedly-fatally-shot-man/story?id=63834824

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read somewhere (Fox news?) that the non-verbal, mentally disabled man who attacked the police officer posted perfectly coherent messages on Facebook and had, at some point, been in college studying Acctg and finance if I remember correctly.

There is a lot about this whole thing that simply does not make a great deal of sense to me.

It might help if you could remember where you read that, because its not been part of any of the mainstream reporting and I can't even find it when I google for key terms.

You can look at French's facebook page for yourself. You don't need "main stream reporting" to do that for you. There are several "public" posts from the last couple years up there where he talks about going places (concerts, sporting events, vacations, etc.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I read somewhere (Fox news?) that the non-verbal, mentally disabled man who attacked the police officer posted perfectly coherent messages on Facebook and had, at some point, been in college studying Acctg and finance if I remember correctly.

There is a lot about this whole thing that simply does not make a great deal of sense to me.

It might help if you could remember where you read that, because its not been part of any of the mainstream reporting and I can't even find it when I google for key terms.

You can look at French's facebook page for yourself. You don't need "main stream reporting" to do that for you. There are several "public" posts from the last couple years up there where he talks about going places (concerts, sporting events, vacations, etc.)

So? People with cognitive challenges can do those things, and that he was posting up to last year doesn’t mean he hasn’t since become nonverbal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The smearing of the victim started pretty quickly.

It started in the first couple pages. It’s the pro-guns at any costs crowd. Plus, a few questionable LEOs and LE wannabes. My brother is in law enforcement. His family FB account expresses his dismay about the shooting, but he could never post that on his account that has coworkers as friends.

The victim attacked the cop and knocked the cop and his 1 1/2 baby to the ground. If you start with what we DO know you will see that this victim played a role in this whole thing.

Unless we are living in the ISIS caliphate that would not merit a death sentence.

+1 Nor the shooting of the man's parents, both of whom are in critical condition.

+2. Some LEOs (and their worshippers) tend to forget their job description doesn’t include “executioner.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I read somewhere (Fox news?) that the non-verbal, mentally disabled man who attacked the police officer posted perfectly coherent messages on Facebook and had, at some point, been in college studying Acctg and finance if I remember correctly.

There is a lot about this whole thing that simply does not make a great deal of sense to me.

It might help if you could remember where you read that, because its not been part of any of the mainstream reporting and I can't even find it when I google for key terms.

You can look at French's facebook page for yourself. You don't need "main stream reporting" to do that for you. There are several "public" posts from the last couple years up there where he talks about going places (concerts, sporting events, vacations, etc.)

The anti-psychotics he was taking maybe made him Nonverbal for a time ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The smearing of the victim started pretty quickly.

It started in the first couple pages. It’s the pro-guns at any costs crowd. Plus, a few questionable LEOs and LE wannabes. My brother is in law enforcement. His family FB account expresses his dismay about the shooting, but he could never post that on his account that has coworkers as friends.

The victim attacked the cop and knocked the cop and his 1 1/2 baby to the ground. If you start with what we DO know you will see that this victim played a role in this whole thing.

He “attacked” or he accidentally knocked him over?

And wasn’t the wife holding the baby?

Lots of unknowns.

The cop's lawyer has said that the cop was holding the baby at the food sample table when they were attacked and pushed to the ground. Now we are finding out that the man who attacked them was a probable schizophrenic who had recently been taken off of his meds which is likely what caused him to behave aggressively and irrationally that day.

The man suffered from a serious mental health issue, not an intellectual disability, which explains why he might have been so unpredictable and behaving so out of care for himself. He probably had some sort of psychotic hallucination. My heart goes out to his family. They very clearly loved him and were doing everything for him that they knew how to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The smearing of the victim started pretty quickly.

It started in the first couple pages. It’s the pro-guns at any costs crowd. Plus, a few questionable LEOs and LE wannabes. My brother is in law enforcement. His family FB account expresses his dismay about the shooting, but he could never post that on his account that has coworkers as friends.

The victim attacked the cop and knocked the cop and his 1 1/2 baby to the ground. If you start with what we DO know you will see that this victim played a role in this whole thing.

He “attacked” or he accidentally knocked him over?

And wasn’t the wife holding the baby?

Lots of unknowns.

The cop's lawyer has said that the cop was holding the baby at the food sample table when they were attacked and pushed to the ground. Now we are finding out that the man who attacked them was a probable schizophrenic who had recently been taken off of his meds which is likely what caused him to behave aggressively and irrationally that day.

The man suffered from a serious mental health issue, not an intellectual disability, which explains why he might have been so unpredictable and behaving so out of care for himself. He probably had some sort of psychotic hallucination. My heart goes out to his family. They very clearly loved him and were doing everything for him that they knew how to do.

And perhaps some sympathy for the man who was killed for having a mental health condition beyond his control?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The smearing of the victim started pretty quickly.

It started in the first couple pages. It’s the pro-guns at any costs crowd. Plus, a few questionable LEOs and LE wannabes. My brother is in law enforcement. His family FB account expresses his dismay about the shooting, but he could never post that on his account that has coworkers as friends.

The victim attacked the cop and knocked the cop and his 1 1/2 baby to the ground. If you start with what we DO know you will see that this victim played a role in this whole thing.

He “attacked” or he accidentally knocked him over?

And wasn’t the wife holding the baby?

Lots of unknowns.

The cop's lawyer has said that the cop was holding the baby at the food sample table when they were attacked and pushed to the ground. Now we are finding out that the man who attacked them was a probable schizophrenic who had recently been taken off of his meds which is likely what caused him to behave aggressively and irrationally that day.

The man suffered from a serious mental health issue, not an intellectual disability, which explains why he might have been so unpredictable and behaving so out of care for himself. He probably had some sort of psychotic hallucination. My heart goes out to his family. They very clearly loved him and were doing everything for him that they knew how to do.

And perhaps some sympathy for the man who was killed for having a mental health condition beyond his control?

Absolutely I have sympathy for him. It sounds as though he had a lot of promise - smart, well spoken, decent looking, nice family - and schizophrenia robbed him of that. It is tragic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The smearing of the victim started pretty quickly.

It started in the first couple pages. It’s the pro-guns at any costs crowd. Plus, a few questionable LEOs and LE wannabes. My brother is in law enforcement. His family FB account expresses his dismay about the shooting, but he could never post that on his account that has coworkers as friends.

The victim attacked the cop and knocked the cop and his 1 1/2 baby to the ground. If you start with what we DO know you will see that this victim played a role in this whole thing.

He “attacked” or he accidentally knocked him over?

And wasn’t the wife holding the baby?

Lots of unknowns.

The cop's lawyer has said that the cop was holding the baby at the food sample table when they were attacked and pushed to the ground. Now we are finding out that the man who attacked them was a probable schizophrenic who had recently been taken off of his meds which is likely what caused him to behave aggressively and irrationally that day.

The man suffered from a serious mental health issue, not an intellectual disability, which explains why he might have been so unpredictable and behaving so out of care for himself. He probably had some sort of psychotic hallucination. My heart goes out to his family. They very clearly loved him and were doing everything for him that they knew how to do.

And perhaps some sympathy for the man who was killed for having a mental health condition beyond his control?

I'm so sick of people with "mental illness" being excused for whatever horrific things they have done to other people. No, I have NO sympathy. Perhaps if you were the victim of someone with "mental illness" you wouldn't be so quick to give them a free pass to do whatever they want.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The smearing of the victim started pretty quickly.

It started in the first couple pages. It’s the pro-guns at any costs crowd. Plus, a few questionable LEOs and LE wannabes. My brother is in law enforcement. His family FB account expresses his dismay about the shooting, but he could never post that on his account that has coworkers as friends.

The victim attacked the cop and knocked the cop and his 1 1/2 baby to the ground. If you start with what we DO know you will see that this victim played a role in this whole thing.

He “attacked” or he accidentally knocked him over?

And wasn’t the wife holding the baby?

Lots of unknowns.

The cop's lawyer has said that the cop was holding the baby at the food sample table when they were attacked and pushed to the ground. Now we are finding out that the man who attacked them was a probable schizophrenic who had recently been taken off of his meds which is likely what caused him to behave aggressively and irrationally that day.

The man suffered from a serious mental health issue, not an intellectual disability, which explains why he might have been so unpredictable and behaving so out of care for himself. He probably had some sort of psychotic hallucination. My heart goes out to his family. They very clearly loved him and were doing everything for him that they knew how to do.

And perhaps some sympathy for the man who was killed for having a mental health condition beyond his control?

I'm so sick of people with "mental illness" being excused for whatever horrific things they have done to other people. No, I have NO sympathy. Perhaps if you were the victim of someone with "mental illness" you wouldn't be so quick to give them a free pass to do whatever they want.

People are born with things they can't help. Some people lack legs. Some people are born with issues that are invisible but impact every aspect of their being, like mental illnesses. And apparently you lack a heart.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even if the son had done something to provoke the cop, it doesn’t justify shooting three unarmed people. That cop is psychotic, as is the department protecting him.

+1.

How exactly do you guarantee that a person is unarmed?