Costco shooter was a cop... and all 3 victims were unarmed

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Anonymous wrote:The smearing of the victim started pretty quickly.

It started in the first couple pages. It’s the pro-guns at any costs crowd. Plus, a few questionable LEOs and LE wannabes. My brother is in law enforcement. His family FB account expresses his dismay about the shooting, but he could never post that on his account that has coworkers as friends.

The victim attacked the cop and knocked the cop and his 1 1/2 baby to the ground. If you start with what we DO know you will see that this victim played a role in this whole thing.

He “attacked” or he accidentally knocked him over?

And wasn’t the wife holding the baby?

Lots of unknowns.

The cop's lawyer has said that the cop was holding the baby at the food sample table when they were attacked and pushed to the ground. Now we are finding out that the man who attacked them was a probable schizophrenic who had recently been taken off of his meds which is likely what caused him to behave aggressively and irrationally that day.

The man suffered from a serious mental health issue, not an intellectual disability, which explains why he might have been so unpredictable and behaving so out of care for himself. He probably had some sort of psychotic hallucination. My heart goes out to his family. They very clearly loved him and were doing everything for him that they knew how to do.

And perhaps some sympathy for the man who was killed for having a mental health condition beyond his control?

I'm so sick of people with "mental illness" being excused for whatever horrific things they have done to other people. No, I have NO sympathy. Perhaps if you were the victim of someone with "mental illness" you wouldn't be so quick to give them a free pass to do whatever they want.

It's possible to sympathize with the mentally ill person while not condoning or brushing aside their harmful actions towards others. Knowing that this guy likely suffered from psychotic hallucinations and was not mentally well does put the incident into a better perspective.

I also sympathize with the cop who was dealing with an aggressive and irrational individual. I'm sure that he did feel that he and his family were being threatened at the time. They were.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if the son had done something to provoke the cop, it doesn’t justify shooting three unarmed people. That cop is psychotic, as is the department protecting him.

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How exactly do you guarantee that a person is unarmed?

You could be armed and dangerously, can a copy shoot you if he doesn’t like the expression on your face as you approach him on the sidewalk? After all, he might feel threatened by your posture.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if the son had done something to provoke the cop, it doesn’t justify shooting three unarmed people. That cop is psychotic, as is the department protecting him.

+1.

How exactly do you guarantee that a person is unarmed?

Outlaw guns?

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Anonymous wrote:Even if the son had done something to provoke the cop, it doesn’t justify shooting three unarmed people. That cop is psychotic, as is the department protecting him.

+1.

How exactly do you guarantee that a person is unarmed?

None of us ever know that the person near us is unarmed. People get killed by drive by shootings, or even in their own homes. But most people don't go trigger happy shooting up a Costco. Particularly trained law enforcement professionals who should know better.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if the son had done something to provoke the cop, it doesn’t justify shooting three unarmed people. That cop is psychotic, as is the department protecting him.

+1.

How exactly do you guarantee that a person is unarmed?

Outlaw guns?

Ding. Ding. Ding. We have a winner. Cops in the UK primarily carry tasers, not guns. The most harm they can do is knock you out a bit, not kill you.

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Anonymous wrote:I read somewhere (Fox news?) that the non-verbal, mentally disabled man who attacked the police officer posted perfectly coherent messages on Facebook and had, at some point, been in college studying Acctg and finance if I remember correctly.

There is a lot about this whole thing that simply does not make a great deal of sense to me.

It might help if you could remember where you read that, because its not been part of any of the mainstream reporting and I can't even find it when I google for key terms.

Google Heavy.com 5 facts that you need to know about Kenneth French. That's were I read it. I was mistaken that I had heard it on Fox, my apologies.

Hmm, it would be nice if you and Heavy provided the full details, such as that all of that education occurred over ten years ago.

If you know anything at all about mental health issues, TBIs, etc., you would know that nothing in that Heavy piece (seriously, you rely on Heavy for your information?) is remotely inconsistent with the accounts that have been provided of his mental state at the time of his death. Your post is ignorant, but it supports your agenda so I doubt you give a shit about how stupid it was.

You would call a traumatic brain injury a "developmental disability"? Maybe he fried his brain with drugs or got into a drunken brawl. We don't know what has caused his intellectual disability and I have no clue how long ago he went to college. Were the Facebook posts 10 years old, too, or were those more recent?

I guess my point is, there is more to this guy's story than meets the eye.

So you imagine because you want it to be true. Nothing as classy as smearing a dead man with rank speculation.

Dude does not sound developmentally disabled which is how some people are trying to portray him. Maybe he was schizophrenic? We just do not know.

If you do not know then why are you speculating?

Because pp is hateful.

Pp is right though.

This was on abc news and is a statement from the Russell family attorney
“The family believes he suffered from schizophrenia, but he had been taken off his medication due to other health complications, which may have affected his behavior that night, Galipo said.”


Of course this same guy calls an open handed slap “not an assault.”

A slap or assault warrants appropriate charges, not an instant execution.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The smearing of the victim started pretty quickly.

It started in the first couple pages. It’s the pro-guns at any costs crowd. Plus, a few questionable LEOs and LE wannabes. My brother is in law enforcement. His family FB account expresses his dismay about the shooting, but he could never post that on his account that has coworkers as friends.

The victim attacked the cop and knocked the cop and his 1 1/2 baby to the ground. If you start with what we DO know you will see that this victim played a role in this whole thing.

He “attacked” or he accidentally knocked him over?

And wasn’t the wife holding the baby?

Lots of unknowns.

The cop's lawyer has said that the cop was holding the baby at the food sample table when they were attacked and pushed to the ground. Now we are finding out that the man who attacked them was a probable schizophrenic who had recently been taken off of his meds which is likely what caused him to behave aggressively and irrationally that day.

The man suffered from a serious mental health issue, not an intellectual disability, which explains why he might have been so unpredictable and behaving so out of care for himself. He probably had some sort of psychotic hallucination. My heart goes out to his family. They very clearly loved him and were doing everything for him that they knew how to do.

And perhaps some sympathy for the man who was killed for having a mental health condition beyond his control?

I'm so sick of people with "mental illness" being excused for whatever horrific things they have done to other people. No, I have NO sympathy. Perhaps if you were the victim of someone with "mental illness" you wouldn't be so quick to give them a free pass to do whatever they want.

Exactly what horrific thing did the victim in this case do? Looks like he was the recipient of horrific behavior by a trigger-happy cop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LAPD has placed the cop on administrative leave (i.e. a paid vacation.)
https://abcnews.go.com/US/off-duty-lapd-officer-allegedly-fatally-shot-man/story?id=63834824

What other profession gives you a paid vacation for murder?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The smearing of the victim started pretty quickly.

It started in the first couple pages. It’s the pro-guns at any costs crowd. Plus, a few questionable LEOs and LE wannabes. My brother is in law enforcement. His family FB account expresses his dismay about the shooting, but he could never post that on his account that has coworkers as friends.

The victim attacked the cop and knocked the cop and his 1 1/2 baby to the ground. If you start with what we DO know you will see that this victim played a role in this whole thing.

He “attacked” or he accidentally knocked him over?

And wasn’t the wife holding the baby?

Lots of unknowns.

The cop's lawyer has said that the cop was holding the baby at the food sample table when they were attacked and pushed to the ground. Now we are finding out that the man who attacked them was a probable schizophrenic who had recently been taken off of his meds which is likely what caused him to behave aggressively and irrationally that day.

The man suffered from a serious mental health issue, not an intellectual disability, which explains why he might have been so unpredictable and behaving so out of care for himself. He probably had some sort of psychotic hallucination. My heart goes out to his family. They very clearly loved him and were doing everything for him that they knew how to do.

And perhaps some sympathy for the man who was killed for having a mental health condition beyond his control?

I'm so sick of people with "mental illness" being excused for whatever horrific things they have done to other people. No, I have NO sympathy. Perhaps if you were the victim of someone with "mental illness" you wouldn't be so quick to give them a free pass to do whatever they want.

Exactly what horrific thing did the victim in this case do? Looks like he was the recipient of horrific behavior by a trigger-happy cop.

+1 The cop brought a gun to a knife fight. With no knife.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if the son had done something to provoke the cop, it doesn’t justify shooting three unarmed people. That cop is psychotic, as is the department protecting him.

+1.

How exactly do you guarantee that a person is unarmed?

Outlaw guns?

Ding. Ding. Ding. We have a winner. Cops in the UK primarily carry tasers, not guns. The most harm they can do is knock you out a bit, not kill you.

Tasers consistently kill people. Tasers are safe against a healthy individual. You have no way of knowing the medical state of the target. It's Russian roulette.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if the son had done something to provoke the cop, it doesn’t justify shooting three unarmed people. That cop is psychotic, as is the department protecting him.

+1.

How exactly do you guarantee that a person is unarmed?

Outlaw guns?

Ding. Ding. Ding. We have a winner. Cops in the UK primarily carry tasers, not guns. The most harm they can do is knock you out a bit, not kill you.

Tasers consistently kill people. Tasers are safe against a healthy individual. You have no way of knowing the medical state of the target. It's Russian roulette.

Tasers are still less lethal than guns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The smearing of the victim started pretty quickly.

It started in the first couple pages. It’s the pro-guns at any costs crowd. Plus, a few questionable LEOs and LE wannabes. My brother is in law enforcement. His family FB account expresses his dismay about the shooting, but he could never post that on his account that has coworkers as friends.

The victim attacked the cop and knocked the cop and his 1 1/2 baby to the ground. If you start with what we DO know you will see that this victim played a role in this whole thing.

He “attacked” or he accidentally knocked him over?

And wasn’t the wife holding the baby?

Lots of unknowns.

The cop's lawyer has said that the cop was holding the baby at the food sample table when they were attacked and pushed to the ground. Now we are finding out that the man who attacked them was a probable schizophrenic who had recently been taken off of his meds which is likely what caused him to behave aggressively and irrationally that day.

The man suffered from a serious mental health issue, not an intellectual disability, which explains why he might have been so unpredictable and behaving so out of care for himself. He probably had some sort of psychotic hallucination. My heart goes out to his family. They very clearly loved him and were doing everything for him that they knew how to do.

And perhaps some sympathy for the man who was killed for having a mental health condition beyond his control?

I'm so sick of people with "mental illness" being excused for whatever horrific things they have done to other people. No, I have NO sympathy. Perhaps if you were the victim of someone with "mental illness" you wouldn't be so quick to give them a free pass to do whatever they want.

Exactly what horrific thing did the victim in this case do? Looks like he was the recipient of horrific behavior by a trigger-happy cop.

He slammed a 1 year old baby to the ground. That baby could have been badly injured or killed. Apparently he was still coming at them as they lay on the ground. He must have been hallucinating. and he was irrational and aggressive. That is why he got shot. His parents were trying to control him, they got in the middle and that's why they got shot.

It was a terrible situation that led to a tragic outcome, no question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The smearing of the victim started pretty quickly.

It started in the first couple pages. It’s the pro-guns at any costs crowd. Plus, a few questionable LEOs and LE wannabes. My brother is in law enforcement. His family FB account expresses his dismay about the shooting, but he could never post that on his account that has coworkers as friends.

The victim attacked the cop and knocked the cop and his 1 1/2 baby to the ground. If you start with what we DO know you will see that this victim played a role in this whole thing.

He “attacked” or he accidentally knocked him over?

And wasn’t the wife holding the baby?

Lots of unknowns.

The cop's lawyer has said that the cop was holding the baby at the food sample table when they were attacked and pushed to the ground. Now we are finding out that the man who attacked them was a probable schizophrenic who had recently been taken off of his meds which is likely what caused him to behave aggressively and irrationally that day.

The man suffered from a serious mental health issue, not an intellectual disability, which explains why he might have been so unpredictable and behaving so out of care for himself. He probably had some sort of psychotic hallucination. My heart goes out to his family. They very clearly loved him and were doing everything for him that they knew how to do.

And perhaps some sympathy for the man who was killed for having a mental health condition beyond his control?

I'm so sick of people with "mental illness" being excused for whatever horrific things they have done to other people. No, I have NO sympathy. Perhaps if you were the victim of someone with "mental illness" you wouldn't be so quick to give them a free pass to do whatever they want.

Exactly what horrific thing did the victim in this case do? Looks like he was the recipient of horrific behavior by a trigger-happy cop.

+1 The cop brought a gun to a knife fight. With no knife.

No. The French family brought a violent individual to a grocery store.

[Anonymous]

perhaps some sympathy for the man who was killed for having a mental health condition beyond his control?

No. Blame his parents for bringing a large, uncontrollable, violent mental case out in public.

[Anonymous]

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perhaps some sympathy for the man who was killed for having a mental health condition beyond his control?

No. Blame his parents for bringing a large, uncontrollable, violent mental case out in public.

OMG. I don't think that they had any way of knowing that he would have a violent outburst like that. They probably thought it would do him some good to get out of the house and they may have been worried to leave him alone so they opted to bring him along.