Which Dem can win general election in 2020?

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Anonymous wrote:Bruce Springsteen said all the Dems in the field won’t beat trump in 2020

um, ok. why don't we just cancel the election then.

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Anonymous wrote:Bruce Springsteen said all the Dems in the field won’t beat trump in 2020

That’s not what he said. He said “I don’t see anyone out there at the moment... the man who could beat Trump, or the woman who can beat Trump. You need someone who can speak some of the same language [as Trump] ... and the Democrats don't have an obvious, effective presidential candidate."

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he's probably going to lose the popular vote again, but because no one has fixed the jacked up electoral college, he may still wind up as president

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Anonymous wrote:There's just something about Beto!

Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-Texas) is inspiring aides and allies of former President Obama, who say they could support him if he decides to run for president in 2020.

The Obama allies are quick to point out similarities between O’Rourke, 46, and the former president, who was 47 when he was elected to the White House.

Both are political upstarts with unusual names who seemingly came out of nowhere and inspired thousands upon thousands of people to be part of a movement.

In many ways, say the Obama supporters, O’Rourke is a 2020 version of their former boss.

“That ability to make people feel invested in his campaign and his story does remind me of Obama ‘08,” said David Litt, who served as a speechwriter in the Obama White House. “You see the crowds and the enthusiasm, the kind of movement that isn’t about me but about us.”

Another former Obama aide said O’Rourke, even after losing his Senate bid, has energized the party like no one since the former president.

“The party hasn’t seen this kind of enthusiasm since Obama,” the aide said. “There isn’t one other potential candidate out there that has people buzzing. And that’s exactly why people supported Obama and why they’ll support Beto.”

Dan Pfeiffer, the former senior adviser to Obama who now co-hosts the popular “Pod Save America” podcast, penned a piece for Crooked Media on Monday that made the case for why O’Rourke should run.

“I have never seen a Senate candidate — including Obama in 2004 — inspire the sort of enthusiasm that Beto did in this race,” Pfeiffer said, adding that if O’Rourke were to run, “he would be one of the strongest candidates in the field.”

The difference between Obama and Beto is that Obama actually won a statewide election in his home state.

Plus, his skin.

Please explain because I don’t get your meaning.

DP. What I suspect the poster means is that Obama's race was a big advantage, especially in the 2008 election, and for two reasons:

1) Liberals, who see everything through the prism of race, were enamored with the idea of a black president. Had he been white, Hillary would have gotten the nomination.

2) Black people, also enamored with the idea of a black president (which I can understand), turned out in record numbers.

If the race were against McCain and a WHITE junior senator who sat in a bigoted anti-American church for 20 years, McCain would have won.

Hm, I guess you can run with this belief if you think that the only way a Black man can get ahead and win in this country is because he is Black People like you and the other poster don’t think very much of Black people. I get it.

As to number two, is that why white people always win? Is it because white people turn out in records numbers and vote for the white man simply because he is white? John McCain lost against a white one-term governor with no success stories behind him, but nobody talks about that. John McCain lost against a white man who smoked cocaine in the White House while visiting his dad, and whose wife killed someone in a vehicular himicide. A white man who was never a one-term anything politician ascended to the presidency and he didn’t attend a bigoted anti-American church, he was and is the bigot, misogyny aetheist but it’s okay, he’s white; therefore different rules. Got it.

John McCain lost two presidential bids for the same reason Hilary Clinton lost two presidential bids. They were both god awful candidates who were outwitted and outperformed by better candidates, but you only have the problem with the Black candidate. Got it. Take that rod out of eye, BIGOT.

+1 million.

Obama didn't win because he's black (and he's biracial by the way). He won because he was a way better candidate than John McCain (who was an infinitely better leader than our current POTUS).

There was also no Republican who was going to win in 2008 after what the previous Republican had done to the economy.

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Anonymous wrote:Bruce Springsteen said all the Dems in the field won’t beat trump in 2020

um, ok. why don't we just cancel the election then.

Is he setting himself up for a run?

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Anonymous wrote:Bruce Springsteen said all the Dems in the field won’t beat trump in 2020

um, ok. why don't we just cancel the election then.

Is he setting himself up for a run?

NO. He goes on to definitely rule that out a couple of sentences later.

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Anonymous wrote:It'll be about getting out the vote and the "Clinton Machine" is a proven model. She can raise money, has name recognition, and is the only one in a position to clear the field and avoid a brutal primary season.

If we have 25 people in a debate taking shots at each other we are wasting energy and knocking each other down to the benefit of trumpy.

Most importantly, she's proven to be able to win the popular vote. The right lesson learned should to be to refocus efforts in a few key places and for us not to take it for granted again, not to have a primary bloodbath.

#stillwithher

I hope this is a smart-assed GOP troll.

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I really hope these are all bored housewives' postings. The more of this thread that came from professional Democrats, the more likely it is that Trump will repeat.

There's precious little learned from 2016 here.

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope these are all bored housewives' postings. The more of this thread that came from professional Democrats, the more likely it is that Trump will repeat.

There's precious little learned from 2016 here.

So dazzle us with your prognostications, then.

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope these are all bored housewives' postings. The more of this thread that came from professional Democrats, the more likely it is that Trump will repeat.

There's precious little learned from 2016 here.

So dazzle us with your prognostications, then.

The first PP needs to learn some grammar first before complaining about the “bored housewives.”

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I hope all the septagenarians take a pass on the Democratic nomination. Let’s leave the GOP as the only party with an adult daycare for its POTUS.

At issue are three candidates in particular: Former vice president Joe Biden and Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.). On Election Day 2020, they will be 77, 79 and 71 years old, respectively. Sanders would be the second-oldest candidate since that Reagan-Mondale election in 1984, topping Reagan that year (almost 74) but not former Minnesota governor Harold Stassen (R), who was 81 when he sought the nomination in 1988.

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope these are all bored housewives' postings. The more of this thread that came from professional Democrats, the more likely it is that Trump will repeat.

There's precious little learned from 2016 here.

So dazzle us with your prognostications, then.

The first PP needs to learn some grammar first before complaining about the “bored housewives.”

If you make the grammar police (especially when they're likely wrong) a barrier to political discussion you've learned precious little from 2016.

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope these are all bored housewives' postings. The more of this thread that came from professional Democrats, the more likely it is that Trump will repeat.

There's precious little learned from 2016 here.

So dazzle us with your prognostications, then.

Can you read? I said the more this thread is indicative of professional Democrats thinking, the more likely Trump will repeat. That's a prognostication, Einstein!

The "Russia ate my homework" nonsense and the other forms of denial precluded any postmortem. This whole thread reads like 2016 didn't happen and electing an orange-haired game show host was no big deal. It was a catastrophic failure, so the methods used in recent years should've been closely re-examined for weaknesses. I don't see a single insight here and so I have to wonder: do you people get paid to spout this shit?

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Anonymous wrote:I hope all the septagenarians take a pass on the Democratic nomination. Let’s leave the GOP as the only party with an adult daycare for its POTUS.

At issue are three candidates in particular: Former vice president Joe Biden and Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.). On Election Day 2020, they will be 77, 79 and 71 years old, respectively. Sanders would be the second-oldest candidate since that Reagan-Mondale election in 1984, topping Reagan that year (almost 74) but not former Minnesota governor Harold Stassen (R), who was 81 when he sought the nomination in 1988.

It was great that the pro-youth chorus was so vocal when Madame Speaker was being discussed. Oh, wait!

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Anonymous wrote:Bruce Springsteen said all the Dems in the field won’t beat trump in 2020

um, ok. why don't we just cancel the election then.

Is he setting himself up for a run?

He was born to run.