20 victims reported at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis

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Anonymous wrote:Trump LITERALLY wants crazy people to have guns.

He did this:

The blood is on his hands.

My working theory: The GOP knows a non-trivial percentage of their base is clinically nuts and owns guns, and they don't want to offend them, so they tiptoe around the obvious and instead go out of their way to pander and coddle people who they know are are nuts and who they perfectly well know should not have guns.

It's on his hands and all of you who vote for Republicans who support the NRA.

This. It is hard to understand how anyone, or any political party, or any leader, can justify allowing ownership of guns for people with known mental illness. Why? There is no other country in the world where fellow citizens are shooting up small children en masse.

[Anonymous]

Extreme mental illness.

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Prayers going up!!!

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen any evidence that they had surgery while a minor. The mom signed a form allowing the name change from Robert Westman to Robin Westman whey they were 17 on the ground that they self-identified as female.

I suspect that they wanted to have the name change before the age of 18 so all adult records would be in that name. The fact that mom signed the form consenting doesn't mean any surgery had been done or anything else medical had already been done.

It says to me that the mother is a big part of his problem

The house was owned in the dad's name. They probably didnt want to alienate their child before they turned 18 and the reason the mom's name is on the document is because mom's do that sort of thing Who knows how abusive they were. The killer apologized to them. Maybe they were and maybe it was society and a bad brain that caused a lot of this. Either way the young adult was a graduate of this school and had a bad experience. Its just like all the other school shootings where the person goes back to their school to take out their revenge before killing themselves or being killed.

Yes. The mom was an idiot and did nothing to stop her son. In fact she encouraged him by her acquiescence

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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???

It’s also dumb that teens can’t vape or smoke until 18 or drink till they’re 21 because alcohol is considered a mind altering drug yet they can take SSRI’s or completely change their gender with puberty blockers while underage.

Teens are already mentally not all the way there so imagine with medication

You can’t drink until 21 but you can buy a gun at 18.

Guns should require a safety class and test (like driving lessons) that come with a cost and parental and medical provider sign-off before anyone gets close to having the privilege to buy a gun.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FBI investigating Minnesota school shooting as hate crime against Catholics

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5473787-fbi-investigates-minnesota-shooting/

Anti-Catholicism is on the rise. What can we do to stop it?

The best thing in my opinion would be for the evangelical types like Vance to break off. They are giving the rest of us a bad name.

Ithought Vance was Catholic

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen any evidence that they had surgery while a minor. The mom signed a form allowing the name change from Robert Westman to Robin Westman whey they were 17 on the ground that they self-identified as female.

I suspect that they wanted to have the name change before the age of 18 so all adult records would be in that name. The fact that mom signed the form consenting doesn't mean any surgery had been done or anything else medical had already been done.

It says to me that the mother is a big part of his problem

The house was owned in the dad's name. They probably didnt want to alienate their child before they turned 18 and the reason the mom's name is on the document is because mom's do that sort of thing Who knows how abusive they were. The killer apologized to them. Maybe they were and maybe it was society and a bad brain that caused a lot of this. Either way the young adult was a graduate of this school and had a bad experience. Its just like all the other school shootings where the person goes back to their school to take out their revenge before killing themselves or being killed.

Yes. The mom was an idiot and did nothing to stop her son. In fact she encouraged him by her acquiescence

Here we go. Blame the mother syndrome.

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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.

Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.

Who’s gonna staff these clinics??

How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society

DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.

Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.

You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.

No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.

I call BS on this.
Show me a Republican that wants to raise taxes for anything, no matter how good for society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen any evidence that they had surgery while a minor. The mom signed a form allowing the name change from Robert Westman to Robin Westman whey they were 17 on the ground that they self-identified as female.

I suspect that they wanted to have the name change before the age of 18 so all adult records would be in that name. The fact that mom signed the form consenting doesn't mean any surgery had been done or anything else medical had already been done.

It says to me that the mother is a big part of his problem

The house was owned in the dad's name. They probably didnt want to alienate their child before they turned 18 and the reason the mom's name is on the document is because mom's do that sort of thing Who knows how abusive they were. The killer apologized to them. Maybe they were and maybe it was society and a bad brain that caused a lot of this. Either way the young adult was a graduate of this school and had a bad experience. Its just like all the other school shootings where the person goes back to their school to take out their revenge before killing themselves or being killed.

Yes. The mom was an idiot and did nothing to stop her son. In fact she encouraged him by her acquiescence

Highly unlikely. She was a devout catholic. Probably was forced to in order to keep a relationship. The issue was mental illness. Guns and an unhappy childhood which obviously involved that school.

[Anonymous]

As an elementary school teacher, it broke my heart to see the kids being interviewed and struck me how they were not at all surprised that this happened to them. Our kids are growing up expecting to go through an active shooter situation at school.

We are breeding the next generation of domestic terrorists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As an elementary school teacher, it broke my heart to see the kids being interviewed and struck me how they were not at all surprised that this happened to them. Our kids are growing up expecting to go through an active shooter situation at school.

We are breeding the next generation of domestic terrorists.

+1 How can this be the world we leave to our children?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.

Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.

Who’s gonna staff these clinics??

How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society

DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.

Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.

You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.

No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.

I call BS on this.
Show me a Republican that wants to raise taxes for anything, no matter how good for society.

It won't be necessary to raise taxes. Stop funding the programs that DO NOT work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As an elementary school teacher, it broke my heart to see the kids being interviewed and struck me how they were not at all surprised that this happened to them. Our kids are growing up expecting to go through an active shooter situation at school.

We are breeding the next generation of domestic terrorists.

It may not have come across in those videos, but the kids absolutely were syrourused and were (and are) still processing what happened. Most probably haven't been told by their parents which classmates were killer. It's a small school- everyone is going to know one of them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.

Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.

Who’s gonna staff these clinics??

How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society

DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.

Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.

But there already is demand. And no one wants the jobs.

Because they pay $20/hour for intense and stressful work. I would just work at starbucks rather than a clinic. Where is all of the $$ going in healthcare? If I go to urgent care I pay at least $100 and I only ever speak with a medical assistant and the front desk both of whom make less than $30/hr so where is my $100 going?

Where is all the $ going in healthcare? Private Equity.

[Anonymous]

This morning I watched an interview on the today show with a young man who survived the shooting. I don’t remember his name, but he showed such strength, courage, bravery and character that amazed me. It touched my heart, and I think God for kids like him. I think the world needs more children like that young man.