20 victims reported at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis

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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.

Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.

Who’s gonna staff these clinics??

How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society

DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.

Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.

You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.

No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.

Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.

Who’s gonna staff these clinics??

How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society

DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.

Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.

You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.

No one is denying it will be expensive. What I’m saying is that I (a Republican) and many others will pay higher taxes for this. So the jobs can be higher paying and subsidized or whatever. Better use of my taxes than whatever else bloated fed gov bureaucracies could be doing.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???

When I was in my late 20s a good friend on anti-depressants (SSRIs) committed suicide.

+1 I've known of several in our community. Sadly, one of them also killed his wife. Her parents raised their children.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.

Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.

Who’s gonna staff these clinics??

How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society

They also weren't procreating and raising children in abusive ways.

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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

+1 AMEN

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if he is pro or anti-Trump. It doesn't matter what his sexual orientation or identity is. None of that matters.

If he didn't have access to guns, he couldn't have killed to innocent children. He couldn't have shot over a dozen others.

Anyone who does not see this, is complicit.

Mentality deranged people should not have access to guns. The signs were there

The people who commit these shootings are not mentally normal and probably shouldn’t be allowed in society. I mean, just go down the list. Charleston Church shooting, parkland, aurora movie theater, the Vegas music festival, sandy hook, and countless others. All anti social and mentally ill.

They need to be institutionalized-- either in a hospital, group home, or prison.

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Anonymous wrote:In the midst of all the coverage of this shooting, the media has to hold it together. I just saw a clip of that Psaki woman crying as she tried to get through her speech, condemning people who disagree with her.

We can’t go off half-cocked after an emotional event. This isn’t like when Big Balls was mugged, just the latest victim of the thugs terrorizing DC. The shooting was a one-time event. There’s just about zero chance this happens there tomorrow or Friday, just like there was a zero chance Monday and Tuesday.

The President acted when DC became an utter mess, and Big Balls showed that enough is enough with these Democrat cities like DC and Baltimore with the wrong mayors. Minneapolis is pretty horribly run as well, and Trump needs to see what’s going on under the surface, but the shooting was a fluke. Thank goodness the White House and SOME people in Congress understand this.

You are heartless and insane. Trump is just waving his unbelievably small cock around deploying the National Guard. He isn't actually doing anything useful. Gun violence is a horrible problem in this country and it is all the fault of the GOP.

Honestly, FU you psycho.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if he is pro or anti-Trump. It doesn't matter what his sexual orientation or identity is. None of that matters.

If he didn't have access to guns, he couldn't have killed to innocent children. He couldn't have shot over a dozen others.

Anyone who does not see this, is complicit.

Mentality deranged people should not have access to guns. The signs were there

The people who commit these shootings are not mentally normal and probably shouldn’t be allowed in society. I mean, just go down the list. Charleston Church shooting, parkland, aurora movie theater, the Vegas music festival, sandy hook, and countless others. All anti social and mentally ill.

They need to be institutionalized-- either in a hospital, group home, or prison.

And...how about we stop letting so many people have GUNS.

FFS.

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Anonymous wrote:FBI investigating Minnesota school shooting as hate crime against Catholics

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5473787-fbi-investigates-minnesota-shooting/

Anti-Catholicism is on the rise. What can we do to stop it?

The best thing in my opinion would be for the evangelical types like Vance to break off. They are giving the rest of us a bad name.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump LITERALLY wants crazy people to have guns.

He did this:

The blood is on his hands.

My working theory: The GOP knows a non-trivial percentage of their base is clinically nuts and owns guns, and they don't want to offend them, so they tiptoe around the obvious and instead go out of their way to pander and coddle people who they know are are nuts and who they perfectly well know should not have guns.

It's on his hands and all of you who vote for Republicans who support the NRA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma

It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???

When I was in my late 20s a good friend on anti-depressants (SSRIs) committed suicide.

I am very sorry for your friend. My condolences. But it is very hard to isolate to isolate the factors and causes in a case like this. Presumably he was on the SSRI because of depression.

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Anonymous wrote:FBI investigating Minnesota school shooting as hate crime against Catholics

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5473787-fbi-investigates-minnesota-shooting/

Anti-Catholicism is on the rise. What can we do to stop it?

The best thing in my opinion would be for the evangelical types like Vance to break off. They are giving the rest of us a bad name.

Vance is no more a Catholic than Trump is a generic Christian. In other words, not at all. They're phonies. Don't wait for Vance to "break off" -- speak out against him. He's not a Catholic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?

It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.

This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.

Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.

Who’s gonna staff these clinics??

How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society

They staffed them with the dregs of society. People who got off on torture.

The institutions were closed for a reason - the whole system was beyond reform.

They were closed because Reagan wanted to cut government spending. This was in the old days, when Republicans were somewhat normal and stood for fiscal responsibility.

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The trans shooter posted a manifesto online in which a major theme was the Catholic church not being nice to trans people. And the police are still saying they can’t identify a motive for the shooting??

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen any evidence that they had surgery while a minor. The mom signed a form allowing the name change from Robert Westman to Robin Westman whey they were 17 on the ground that they self-identified as female.

I suspect that they wanted to have the name change before the age of 18 so all adult records would be in that name. The fact that mom signed the form consenting doesn't mean any surgery had been done or anything else medical had already been done.

It says to me that the mother is a big part of his problem

The house was owned in the dad's name. They probably didnt want to alienate their child before they turned 18 and the reason the mom's name is on the document is because mom's do that sort of thing Who knows how abusive they were. The killer apologized to them. Maybe they were and maybe it was society and a bad brain that caused a lot of this. Either way the young adult was a graduate of this school and had a bad experience. Its just like all the other school shootings where the person goes back to their school to take out their revenge before killing themselves or being killed.