Will school weapon detections cause class time delay?

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid has a club or sport that starts before the doors open at 730 - how does this work now?

Dd did FCA last year and the meetings were at 715. DS was in the Weight room at 630am for XC .

Are all early morning extra curriculars not possible anymore?


They have to leave the school building to go back through the metal detectors according to my kid.

For example, a kid has morning practice at the school, and is inside the gym, locker room, music room, theater, etc.

When that ends, they leave the school, get in line, and wait to go through the detector.

This is so poorly planned.


So they have ample opportunity to stash a weapon in their locker in the locker room, then exit the building and go through the metal detector with zero issues!!???

Yep. That tracks


So if kids go INto schools before 7:40 for sports practice, they do NOT go through weapons detector and when practice ends they are to leave school and then go thru line?

For HS with trailers, do the kids have to go through weapons detectors on their way back in?

For HS that allow lunch outside in courtyards that are outside school, do kids have to go through detectors again?

If goes to 1 academy school in morning, when go back to their other HS later that day, do they go through detector when arrive?

If student leaves for appointment during day do they do detector again when return?

If not constantly having kids go through the detectors, isn’t that a big gap in security?



Not sure any level of weapon detection would really deter a kid who was carefully planning something out.

In theory this should keep someone from grabbing something in a moment of hot headedness and using it in another moment of hot headedness, hopefully. But will it?


A one-time AM screen doesn’t help if kids coming in before and after without screening. And what’s to keep kid from just having a weapon in binder if those are just placed outside screener but not actually subject to any secondary screening.
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Who is being asked to man the screeners? Can those asked refuse or if did, would they be fired? Would think many would not want to take risk that they’d be one on duty if an incident happens. Are there police at door of weapon found? Or do English teachers and counselors now need to take mixed martial arts classes?
Anonymous
If you have first period off for plan/ipr you can be assigned the duty. No training needed.
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Anonymous wrote:If you have first period off for plan/ipr you can be assigned the duty. No training needed.


I’d be sending gift baskets weekly to whoever in charge of making schedules and asking to never have a first period free then!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you have first period off for plan/ipr you can be assigned the duty. No training needed.


Sounds like an FCPS plan
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you have first period off for plan/ipr you can be assigned the duty. No training needed.


I’d be sending gift baskets weekly to whoever in charge of making schedules and asking to never have a first period free then!


Probably being given to the new young teachers are not ready to go head to head with admin.
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Anonymous wrote:Who is being asked to man the screeners? Can those asked refuse or if did, would they be fired? Would think many would not want to take risk that they’d be one on duty if an incident happens. Are there police at door of weapon found? Or do English teachers and counselors now need to take mixed martial arts classes?


Counselors, other non-teacher positions like assessment coach and social worker, SOSA, all the administrators, security staff - a ridiculous waste of people's time.
Anonymous
I'd like to hear what the schools with "no delays" are doing so the Westfields and Woodsons can change their approach.
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Anonymous wrote:My child came home yesterday and told us this new procedure (they have not yet implemented/starting using the metal detectors yet):

- Students will need to remove backpacks and take out laptops, phones, watches, etc before walking through
- Students will need to remove jewelry before walking through

They were told it will take 25-30 minutes for the entire student body (this is a MS) to enter the building, so he was told they might open the doors earlier. This seems a little crazy to me.


They were told it will take 25-30 minutes for the entire student body (this is a MS) to enter the building, so he was told they might open the doors earlier. This seems a little crazy to me.


My DC's school requires students to remove laptop, umbrella and 3-ring binder from the backpack. When my DC was passing the weapon detector, DC was told to held the laptop, umbrella and 3-ring binder high above the head. The binder fell down the ground, it took several minutes to sort it out. The teacher at the weapon detector was unhappy. She kept telling kids to remove things from their backpacks and said: "I am not going to help you hold your stuff." I am not blaming her. This may not be her duty on her contract. But FCPS should at least provide some boxes like the ones used at the airport security checkpoint for student to put their stuff when passing the detector.


That’s totally f&ked up, I’m sorry. Holding heavy materials high above your head? They can fall. We need to organize and rise up and fight back. Our kids deserve better.

My DD's friend is short. The staff at the checkpoint called her out from the line and manually checked her backpack because even if she hold her stuff above her head, the detector still get triggered.
Anonymous
Did the SB debate and approve the introduction of these things? I don’t recall hearing anything about them before the short pilot in spring
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Anonymous wrote:Did the SB debate and approve the introduction of these things? I don’t recall hearing anything about them before the short pilot in spring


You'd think a major change like this would be discussed and voted on by the School Board.

But no, they are asleep at the wheel.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did the SB debate and approve the introduction of these things? I don’t recall hearing anything about them before the short pilot in spring


You'd think a major change like this would be discussed and voted on by the School Board.

But no, they are asleep at the wheel.


SB just rubber stamps whatever dumb idea Reid has.
Anonymous
FCPS should have done a better job in communication. The school email only mentioned a few things to be taken out of the backpack but all kinds of things can make the detector sound, including medal eye glasses case and the metal handle of some backpacks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did the SB debate and approve the introduction of these things? I don’t recall hearing anything about them before the short pilot in spring


You'd think a major change like this would be discussed and voted on by the School Board.

But no, they are asleep at the wheel.


We didn't even get an email from Westfield explaining the process they would use this year or how they felt it worked last year. Not shocked but annoyed.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:If you have first period off for plan/ipr you can be assigned the duty. No training needed.


I’d be sending gift baskets weekly to whoever in charge of making schedules and asking to never have a first period free then!


If you don't have this duty then it's bathroom duty, cafeteria duty, etc. later in the day. There are no good options and the extra duties this year are really taking a toll on staff morale.
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