Will school weapon detections cause class time delay?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will there be any legal consequences for FCPS's failing weapons detector operation causing students' learning loss?

Only if someone sues...

Is there any legal base to sue on this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid has a club or sport that starts before the doors open at 730 - how does this work now?

Dd did FCA last year and the meetings were at 715. DS was in the Weight room at 630am for XC .

Are all early morning extra curriculars not possible anymore?

They have to leave the school building to go back through the metal detectors according to my kid.

For example, a kid has morning practice at the school, and is inside the gym, locker room, music room, theater, etc.

When that ends, they leave the school, get in line, and wait to go through the detector.

This is so poorly planned.

LOL...perfect FCPS logic

[Anonymous]

For kids whose buses are arriving at 8, when class starts at 8:10, how fast can they go through security?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Will there be any legal consequences for FCPS's failing weapons detector operation causing students' learning loss?

Only if someone sues...

Is there any legal base to sue on this?

There is a base level of instructional hours required for accreditation. If FCPS knows they aren't meeting it and don't take any action to fix that, that would be the thing to challenge. Doesn't mean much except the state won't give them funding. But they seem really into losing funding sources right now...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid has a club or sport that starts before the doors open at 730 - how does this work now?

Dd did FCA last year and the meetings were at 715. DS was in the Weight room at 630am for XC .

Are all early morning extra curriculars not possible anymore?

They have to leave the school building to go back through the metal detectors according to my kid.

For example, a kid has morning practice at the school, and is inside the gym, locker room, music room, theater, etc.

When that ends, they leave the school, get in line, and wait to go through the detector.

This is so poorly planned.

So they have ample opportunity to stash a weapon in their locker in the locker room, then exit the building and go through the metal detector with zero issues!!???

Yep. That tracks

So if kids go INto schools before 7:40 for sports practice, they do NOT go through weapons detector and when practice ends they are to leave school and then go thru line?

For HS with trailers, do the kids have to go through weapons detectors on their way back in?

For HS that allow lunch outside in courtyards that are outside school, do kids have to go through detectors again?

If goes to 1 academy school in morning, when go back to their other HS later that day, do they go through detector when arrive?

If student leaves for appointment during day do they do detector again when return?

If not constantly having kids go through the detectors, isn’t that a big gap in security?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid has a club or sport that starts before the doors open at 730 - how does this work now?

Dd did FCA last year and the meetings were at 715. DS was in the Weight room at 630am for XC .

Are all early morning extra curriculars not possible anymore?

They have to leave the school building to go back through the metal detectors according to my kid.

For example, a kid has morning practice at the school, and is inside the gym, locker room, music room, theater, etc.

When that ends, they leave the school, get in line, and wait to go through the detector.

This is so poorly planned.

So they have ample opportunity to stash a weapon in their locker in the locker room, then exit the building and go through the metal detector with zero issues!!???



Yep. That tracks

So if kids go INto schools before 7:40 for sports practice, they do NOT go through weapons detector and when practice ends they are to leave school and then go thru line?

For HS with trailers, do the kids have to go through weapons detectors on their way back in?

For HS that allow lunch outside in courtyards that are outside school, do kids have to go through detectors again?

If goes to 1 academy school in morning, when go back to their other HS later that day, do they go through detector when arrive?

If student leaves for appointment during day do they do detector again when return?

If not constantly having kids go through the detectors, isn’t that a big gap in security?

You think Reid and the board have enough brain cells to answer these questions?

[Anonymous]

So all this money was thrown at metal detectors when it could have been used for more buses and drivers so middle school wouldn’t have to start at 7:30 am? Reid is a moron.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid has a club or sport that starts before the doors open at 730 - how does this work now?

Dd did FCA last year and the meetings were at 715. DS was in the Weight room at 630am for XC .

Are all early morning extra curriculars not possible anymore?

They have to leave the school building to go back through the metal detectors according to my kid.

For example, a kid has morning practice at the school, and is inside the gym, locker room, music room, theater, etc.

When that ends, they leave the school, get in line, and wait to go through the detector.

This is so poorly planned.

So they have ample opportunity to stash a weapon in their locker in the locker room, then exit the building and go through the metal detector with zero issues!!???

Yep. That tracks

So if kids go INto schools before 7:40 for sports practice, they do NOT go through weapons detector and when practice ends they are to leave school and then go thru line?

For HS with trailers, do the kids have to go through weapons detectors on their way back in?

For HS that allow lunch outside in courtyards that are outside school, do kids have to go through detectors again?

If goes to 1 academy school in morning, when go back to their other HS later that day, do they go through detector when arrive?

If student leaves for appointment during day do they do detector again when return?

If not constantly having kids go through the detectors, isn’t that a big gap in security?

Not sure any level of weapon detection would really deter a kid who was carefully planning something out.

In theory this should keep someone from grabbing something in a moment of hot headedness and using it in another moment of hot headedness, hopefully. But will it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone be an angel and please post the correct emails and numbers to contact? Thank you. I’m too tired to focus since we started the insanely early MS times.

Kyle McDaniel, [e-mail] 571-423-1090

Ilryong Moon, [e-mail], 571-423-1089

Ryan McElveen, [e-mail], 571-423-1091

Rachna Sizemore Heizer, [e-mail], 571-423-1088

Robyn Lady, [e-mail], 571-423-1087

Marcia St. John-Cunning, [e-mail], 571-423-1081

Melanie K. Meren, [e-mail], 571-423-1082

Ricardy Anderson. [e-mail], 571-423-1083

Mateo Dunne, [e-mail], 571-423-1086

Karl Frisch, [e-mail], 571-423-1084

Sandy Anderson, [e-mail], 571-423-1080

Seema Dixit, [e-mail], 571-423-1085

Dr. Michelle Reid, [e-mail], 571-423-1010

Thank you! Working on email now. Please let’s all flood them with emails about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can understand all this angst if it is still an issue in a week or two. 29 pages of complaints about something brand new that is at least TRYING to protect our kids and teachers is insanity.

Another parent who sort of agrees, though my kid's school isn't using the metal detectors until next week so we have not felt the pain yet. But we all get upset about how many school shootings there are--this is one way of trying to make our kids' schools safer. It should go faster as everyone gets used to the process, I would think.

But we still have people in buildings before school and after school not going through metal detectors....there is also the issue of trailers and kids standing outside in long lines. The pilot schools never seemed to find their groove with this process. Let's not make this that some parents are being unreasonable and/or don't care about security. Most parents want safety and security at school but they want it to be real and make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your kid has a club or sport that starts before the doors open at 730 - how does this work now?

Dd did FCA last year and the meetings were at 715. DS was in the Weight room at 630am for XC .

Are all early morning extra curriculars not possible anymore?

They have to leave the school building to go back through the metal detectors according to my kid.

For example, a kid has morning practice at the school, and is inside the gym, locker room, music room, theater, etc.

When that ends, they leave the school, get in line, and wait to go through the detector.

This is so poorly planned.

So they have ample opportunity to stash a weapon in their locker in the locker room, then exit the building and go through the metal detector with zero issues!!???

Yep. That tracks

So if kids go INto schools before 7:40 for sports practice, they do NOT go through weapons detector and when practice ends they are to leave school and then go thru line?

For HS with trailers, do the kids have to go through weapons detectors on their way back in?

For HS that allow lunch outside in courtyards that are outside school, do kids have to go through detectors again?

If goes to 1 academy school in morning, when go back to their other HS later that day, do they go through detector when arrive?

If student leaves for appointment during day do they do detector again when return?

If not constantly having kids go through the detectors, isn’t that a big gap in security?

Not sure any level of weapon detection would really deter a kid who was carefully planning something out.

In theory this should keep someone from grabbing something in a moment of hot headedness and using it in another moment of hot headedness, hopefully. But will it?

A kid that really wants to cause harm will just target the huge group of students stuck waiting in line.

Students have already said that to beat the system, you just put something in a binder with a metal ring and don't have it go through.

So this process is 1) more dangerous 2) ineffective 3) spending money the schools don't have 4)aggravating teachers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So all this money was thrown at metal detectors when it could have been used for more buses and drivers so middle school wouldn’t have to start at 7:30 am? Reid is a moron.

Reid planned to spend $6 millions on this security show.
This and her 4 full time body guards, is Reid out of her mind?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So all this money was thrown at metal detectors when it could have been used for more buses and drivers so middle school wouldn’t have to start at 7:30 am? Reid is a moron.

Unfortunately, they didn't spend nearly enough money to buy sufficient detectors and staff to run the detectors per school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can understand all this angst if it is still an issue in a week or two. 29 pages of complaints about something brand new that is at least TRYING to protect our kids and teachers is insanity.

Another parent who sort of agrees, though my kid's school isn't using the metal detectors until next week so we have not felt the pain yet. But we all get upset about how many school shootings there are--this is one way of trying to make our kids' schools safer. It should go faster as everyone gets used to the process, I would think.

But we still have people in buildings before school and after school not going through metal detectors....there is also the issue of trailers and kids standing outside in long lines. The pilot schools never seemed to find their groove with this process. Let's not make this that some parents are being unreasonable and/or don't care about security. Most parents want safety and security at school but they want it to be real and make sense.

Our school was a pilot, it ran for several weeks last spring AFTER SENIORS WERE OUT OF THE BUILDING. No, it never got faster. Without adding MORE detectors, MORE staff screening kids through MORE doors for a LONGER period of time (e.g., opening the building sooner, starting classes late).. there is no way this ever works. You can't screen 3000 kids with two metal detectors in 20 minutes. Its mathematically impossible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So all this money was thrown at metal detectors when it could have been used for more buses and drivers so middle school wouldn’t have to start at 7:30 am? Reid is a moron.

Unfortunately, they didn't spend nearly enough money to buy sufficient detectors and staff to run the detectors per school.

$6M, still not enough. How much more will FCPS spend on this?