Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

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Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/

Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.

I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

It’s not clear at all what Democrats want to it’s fair for anyone to draw the worst possible conclusions because they refuse to say themselves.

Biden came to office and rescinded Trump EOs. Magically then Border crossings started getting out of control and even Democratic mayors and governors started complaining. Biden (and Harris) repeatedly for 3 years said that they didn’t have the power to do anything. They insisted that the situation was due to Congress’s failure to act and that only Congress could legally act.

Then the election year came around and the public didn’t blame Congress they blamed Biden for the border mess so Biden in response issued a couple EOs and then like magic, enforcement started again.

I think after that chain of events it is fair to say that the first three years of open borders and chaos is the Democrats preferred policy because that’s what they did.

Well thank God the private prison Bros are in the loop to build up some detention facilities and get billions of our tax dollars. I mean why have asylum seekers in the community working and contributing to the economy when we can just suck up an enormous amount of taxpayer dollars to keep everybody in jail.

Okay, let's all get back to work because there's some private prison companies that need all our money.

You are impervious to objective evidence. The policy encouraged more and more border crossings of people claiming asylum, because the outcome is exactly what those people were seeking. If they were able to get lucky enough to get a free bus ride to a generous sanctuary city, they got provided free shelter and got jobs almost immediately.

You voted to spend a heck of a lot of tax dollars to put all these people in jail. Get to work because we're going to need those dollars for this detention disaster.

Having migrants in detention will save money. They will no longer be costing local communities money for public services. Trump also said he would send them back to Mexico to wait for their court date.

If the migrants are sent back to Mexico or detained and promptly removed, far fewer will come. They will not sell all of their belongings to pay a human trafficker to come here if they cannot achieve the goal they want to, which is being released into and work in this country. The migrants are not asylum seekers. They are not fleeing persecution or torture. They are purely economic migrants.

Do you have any sources for any of the claims you made?

I would also like to say that. They're not making any contribution to the economy or paying any taxes when they're sitting in jail. They're sucking up all my tax money.

Go to emergency rooms in certain areas and see the amount of uncompensated care. Look at the number of motorists getting into accidents without insurance in comparison to 20 years ago. The costs are everywhere, but the data isn't collected, so Dems pretend those costs don't exist.

Okay match it up against all of the tax money collected and boost to the economy and see how it comes out. Do you know how expensive it is to keep someone in jail. A heck of a lot more than some ER bills.

If we want to change the asylum system then let's change the asylum system. I think spending billions and billions of dollars on detention facilities is a stupid way to do it.

I don't support jailing them. I support a far harsher response to people who illegally enter the country.

Well, the Trump voters voted for massive detention facilities and those are really expensive.

I voted for no open borders, turn away all illegals, no asylum country shopping, no birth citizenship.

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Anonymous wrote:How many watched 60 Minutes last night? Two farmers said their crops are picked by illegals and when they're gone there will be no one to pick the crops. The work is hard-:start at 4 am, hot sun,and no US citizens want to do this back breaking work. Fresh Vegetables and fruit will rot in the fields because there is no one to pick the crops.

You think prices are high now, just wait!

Yay 3 year temp worker visas!

on the books, we know who's in the country, no bringing in your wives, cousins, kids, nephews.

Show me where Trump and Homan have said they support giving them worker visas.

Exactly. And worker visas mean you can't pay them $1.50/hr anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/

Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.

I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

Democrats say they don't want illegal aliens, but they won't deport them and won't stop them at the border. Democrats' actions say loud and clear that Dems want illegal aliens. Same goes for elected Republicans, who are too dumb to elect people to represent their interests.

No moron. Democrats do not want to deport those here on asylum. MAGA conflate illegal aliens and asylum seekers, see Springfield, OH.

The odds of that most of these people do not have valid asylum claims. Haiti has one of the highest denial rates for asylum applications. The situation in Haiti is very unfortunate, but economic conditions do not make someone eligible for asylum.

We have a legal process to follow to rule they don’t. Asylum =|= illegal until it’s ruled as such. Democrats believe in the rule of law.

Crossing the border in between the ports of entry is against the law.

Democrats do not believe in the rule of law. They believe in chaos and lawlessness. We see that in their support of illegal immigration and of violent criminals.

This.

Full stop.

This isn’t complicated

1) close the border, apply legally
2) stop citizenship by birth. legal parent can apply at year 7 for child.
3) deport all illegal alien criminals and fraudsters.
4) no free public school for children of undocumented illegal aliens. Go home and apply or keep your children there.
5) e-verity required. Escalating fines and then shut down.

Exactly. Outrageous how Democrats fight AGAINST e-verify at every opportunity. WHY?

Some Democratic politicians may fight against e-verify for unknown reasons but don't lump all "Democrats" in with such madness.

Then name any Democrat politicians fighting FOR e-verify.

Please. The felon is against e-verify.

"And yet, even as his administration found creative new ways to terrorize and immiserate undocumented workers, it has done little to systematically deter corporations from hiring them. In fact, the Trump family did not even cease employing undocumented laborers at its own company until this January, when negative press forced the Trump Organization to adopt E-Verify — a system that allows employers to confirm the legal status of job applicants."

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"Trump’s argument here is not that E-Verify is easily subverted or prone to error. Rather, in the president’s view, the problem with E-Verify is that it works: When he built his D.C. hotel, his company struggled to find legal U.S. residents who were willing to do the work (at the wages that the Trump Organization was willing to pay). And Trump believes that agribusiness struggles with the same issue. Which is to say: The president’s complaint with E-Verify is ostensibly that it might force employers to pay more for “low-skill” labor, since legal U.S. residents aren’t quite as exploitable as workers who lack basic political and labor rights."

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/05/trump-e-verify-fox-news-makes-it-too-hard-to-hire-the-undocumented.html

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Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/

Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.

I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

It’s not clear at all what Democrats want to it’s fair for anyone to draw the worst possible conclusions because they refuse to say themselves.

Biden came to office and rescinded Trump EOs. Magically then Border crossings started getting out of control and even Democratic mayors and governors started complaining. Biden (and Harris) repeatedly for 3 years said that they didn’t have the power to do anything. They insisted that the situation was due to Congress’s failure to act and that only Congress could legally act.

Then the election year came around and the public didn’t blame Congress they blamed Biden for the border mess so Biden in response issued a couple EOs and then like magic, enforcement started again.

I think after that chain of events it is fair to say that the first three years of open borders and chaos is the Democrats preferred policy because that’s what they did.

Well thank God the private prison Bros are in the loop to build up some detention facilities and get billions of our tax dollars. I mean why have asylum seekers in the community working and contributing to the economy when we can just suck up an enormous amount of taxpayer dollars to keep everybody in jail.

Okay, let's all get back to work because there's some private prison companies that need all our money.

You are impervious to objective evidence. The policy encouraged more and more border crossings of people claiming asylum, because the outcome is exactly what those people were seeking. If they were able to get lucky enough to get a free bus ride to a generous sanctuary city, they got provided free shelter and got jobs almost immediately.

You voted to spend a heck of a lot of tax dollars to put all these people in jail. Get to work because we're going to need those dollars for this detention disaster.

Having migrants in detention will save money. They will no longer be costing local communities money for public services. Trump also said he would send them back to Mexico to wait for their court date.

If the migrants are sent back to Mexico or detained and promptly removed, far fewer will come. They will not sell all of their belongings to pay a human trafficker to come here if they cannot achieve the goal they want to, which is being released into and work in this country. The migrants are not asylum seekers. They are not fleeing persecution or torture. They are purely economic migrants.

Do you have any sources for any of the claims you made?

I would also like to say that. They're not making any contribution to the economy or paying any taxes when they're sitting in jail. They're sucking up all my tax money.

Go to emergency rooms in certain areas and see the amount of uncompensated care. Look at the number of motorists getting into accidents without insurance in comparison to 20 years ago. The costs are everywhere, but the data isn't collected, so Dems pretend those costs don't exist.

Okay match it up against all of the tax money collected and boost to the economy and see how it comes out. Do you know how expensive it is to keep someone in jail. A heck of a lot more than some ER bills.

If we want to change the asylum system then let's change the asylum system. I think spending billions and billions of dollars on detention facilities is a stupid way to do it.

I don't support jailing them. I support a far harsher response to people who illegally enter the country.

Well, the Trump voters voted for massive detention facilities and those are really expensive.

I voted for no open borders, turn away all illegals, no asylum country shopping, no birth citizenship.

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It looks like what you are going to get is many many billions spent on private prisons.

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More expensive than housing, feeding, and educating the tens of thousands who have come into the country illegally? I doubt it.

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Anonymous wrote:More expensive than housing, feeding, and educating the tens of thousands who have come into the country illegally? I doubt it.

Way more expensive.

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Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/

Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.

I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

Democrats say they don't want illegal aliens, but they won't deport them and won't stop them at the border. Democrats' actions say loud and clear that Dems want illegal aliens. Same goes for elected Republicans, who are too dumb to elect people to represent their interests.

No moron. Democrats do not want to deport those here on asylum. MAGA conflate illegal aliens and asylum seekers, see Springfield, OH.

The odds of that most of these people do not have valid asylum claims. Haiti has one of the highest denial rates for asylum applications. The situation in Haiti is very unfortunate, but economic conditions do not make someone eligible for asylum.

We have a legal process to follow to rule they don’t. Asylum =|= illegal until it’s ruled as such. Democrats believe in the rule of law.

Crossing the border in between the ports of entry is against the law.

Democrats do not believe in the rule of law. They believe in chaos and lawlessness. We see that in their support of illegal immigration and of violent criminals.

This.

Full stop.

This isn’t complicated

1) close the border, apply legally
2) stop citizenship by birth. legal parent can apply at year 7 for child.
3) deport all illegal alien criminals and fraudsters.
4) no free public school for children of undocumented illegal aliens. Go home and apply or keep your children there.
5) e-verity required. Escalating fines and then shut down.

Exactly. Outrageous how Democrats fight AGAINST e-verify at every opportunity. WHY?

Some Democratic politicians may fight against e-verify for unknown reasons but don't lump all "Democrats" in with such madness.

Then name any Democrat politicians fighting FOR e-verify.

Please. The felon is against e-verify.

"And yet, even as his administration found creative new ways to terrorize and immiserate undocumented workers, it has done little to systematically deter corporations from hiring them. In fact, the Trump family did not even cease employing undocumented laborers at its own company until this January, when negative press forced the Trump Organization to adopt E-Verify — a system that allows employers to confirm the legal status of job applicants."

...

"Trump’s argument here is not that E-Verify is easily subverted or prone to error. Rather, in the president’s view, the problem with E-Verify is that it works: When he built his D.C. hotel, his company struggled to find legal U.S. residents who were willing to do the work (at the wages that the Trump Organization was willing to pay). And Trump believes that agribusiness struggles with the same issue. Which is to say: The president’s complaint with E-Verify is ostensibly that it might force employers to pay more for “low-skill” labor, since legal U.S. residents aren’t quite as exploitable as workers who lack basic political and labor rights."

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/05/trump-e-verify-fox-news-makes-it-too-hard-to-hire-the-undocumented.html

You dodged the question.

You cannot name a single democrat who favors e-Verify? Not one??

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Anonymous wrote:More expensive than housing, feeding, and educating the tens of thousands who have come into the country illegally? I doubt it.

Yes, because most of the immigrants find jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/

Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.

I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

Democrats say they don't want illegal aliens, but they won't deport them and won't stop them at the border. Democrats' actions say loud and clear that Dems want illegal aliens. Same goes for elected Republicans, who are too dumb to elect people to represent their interests.

No moron. Democrats do not want to deport those here on asylum. MAGA conflate illegal aliens and asylum seekers, see Springfield, OH.

The odds of that most of these people do not have valid asylum claims. Haiti has one of the highest denial rates for asylum applications. The situation in Haiti is very unfortunate, but economic conditions do not make someone eligible for asylum.

We have a legal process to follow to rule they don’t. Asylum =|= illegal until it’s ruled as such. Democrats believe in the rule of law.

Crossing the border in between the ports of entry is against the law.

Democrats do not believe in the rule of law. They believe in chaos and lawlessness. We see that in their support of illegal immigration and of violent criminals.

It's not illegal to cross the border and request asylum. If you want it to be illegal, you need to change the law. The President cannot merely declare it so, Congress has to do it. Biden and Democrats have been telling you this for the last 4 years but you still don't understand.

You are wrong. It is illegal to cross in-between ports of entry. You can ask for asylum after crossing illegally once you touch US soil but you've still committed an illegal act in crossing without authorization. That was the basis for arresting parents and separating them from their children during Trump's last administration.

Love them asylium country shopping illiterates.

Why wouldn't you pay to be "escorted" across 2-6 spanish speaking countries in order to go to the Golden Land of America, where they don't speak Spanish, and tell your sob story there.

It was such a terrble sob story, that you didn't just need to get out of the country and claim asylum at the neigboring countries. Nooooo. You had to pay $25,000 USD cash to caravan through multiple countries to get them USA freebies.

They are economic migrants and scammers. They find every way to access free healthcare and public benefits while driving SUVs and carrying designer purses.

The asylum system is essentially a joke. Democrats have turned it into a free-for-all fast-pass for any economic migrant from anywhere in the world to enter the country. The fact that they are against deportation of criminals and migrants who have been ordered to leave by immigration judges speaks volumes that they are for open borders.

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"We simply cannot allow people to pour into the U.S., undetected, undocumented, unchecked and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently, lawfully to become immigrants in this country" — 2005, Senator Barack Obama.

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We are about to spend an effing boatload upon boatload of money on mass deportations. How many Trump buddies are getting into the mass deportation business right now? I assure you it's quite a few.

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Anonymous wrote:How many watched 60 Minutes last night? Two farmers said their crops are picked by illegals and when they're gone there will be no one to pick the crops. The work is hard-:start at 4 am, hot sun,and no US citizens want to do this back breaking work. Fresh Vegetables and fruit will rot in the fields because there is no one to pick the crops.

You think prices are high now, just wait!

I thought progressives were in favor of bettering labor conditions.

Not if it means doing without their nannies and landscapers, and paying more for organic veggies. No way.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/

Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.

I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

Democrats say they don't want illegal aliens, but they won't deport them and won't stop them at the border. Democrats' actions say loud and clear that Dems want illegal aliens. Same goes for elected Republicans, who are too dumb to elect people to represent their interests.

No moron. Democrats do not want to deport those here on asylum. MAGA conflate illegal aliens and asylum seekers, see Springfield, OH.

The odds of that most of these people do not have valid asylum claims. Haiti has one of the highest denial rates for asylum applications. The situation in Haiti is very unfortunate, but economic conditions do not make someone eligible for asylum.

We have a legal process to follow to rule they don’t. Asylum =|= illegal until it’s ruled as such. Democrats believe in the rule of law.

Crossing the border in between the ports of entry is against the law.

Democrats do not believe in the rule of law. They believe in chaos and lawlessness. We see that in their support of illegal immigration and of violent criminals.

It's not illegal to cross the border and request asylum. If you want it to be illegal, you need to change the law. The President cannot merely declare it so, Congress has to do it. Biden and Democrats have been telling you this for the last 4 years but you still don't understand.

You are wrong. It is illegal to cross in-between ports of entry. You can ask for asylum after crossing illegally once you touch US soil but you've still committed an illegal act in crossing without authorization. That was the basis for arresting parents and separating them from their children during Trump's last administration.

Love them asylium country shopping illiterates.

Why wouldn't you pay to be "escorted" across 2-6 spanish speaking countries in order to go to the Golden Land of America, where they don't speak Spanish, and tell your sob story there.

It was such a terrble sob story, that you didn't just need to get out of the country and claim asylum at the neigboring countries. Nooooo. You had to pay $25,000 USD cash to caravan through multiple countries to get them USA freebies.

They are economic migrants and scammers. They find every way to access free healthcare and public benefits while driving SUVs and carrying designer purses.

The asylum system is essentially a joke. Democrats have turned it into a free-for-all fast-pass for any economic migrant from anywhere in the world to enter the country. The fact that they are against deportation of criminals and migrants who have been ordered to leave by immigration judges speaks volumes that they are for open borders.

Your family came here from a private compound in your home country, probably with a bank account or twenty full of looted funds. Sit down and be grateful. I'm tired of you people.

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It’s worth it

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Anonymous wrote:It's worse than anything you ever imagined. Trump announced that he is going to declare a national emergency and use the military in mass deportation of illegal immigrants. Here is the Martial Law I predicted. There goes our Democracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-national-emergency-military-deportations-1235169953/

Deporting illegal aliens is democracy in action. The laws say illegal aliens shouldn't be allowed into the country. Trump wants to enforce the law with his authority. Why are you complaining?

If Dems want illegal aliens, they should vote for it openly instead of abandoning the border as soon as they get power.

I’m tired of this stupidity. Democrats do not want illegal aliens. MAGA is just incapable of understanding nuance. It’s like dealing with the intellectually disabled.

Democrats say they don't want illegal aliens, but they won't deport them and won't stop them at the border. Democrats' actions say loud and clear that Dems want illegal aliens. Same goes for elected Republicans, who are too dumb to elect people to represent their interests.

No moron. Democrats do not want to deport those here on asylum. MAGA conflate illegal aliens and asylum seekers, see Springfield, OH.

The odds of that most of these people do not have valid asylum claims. Haiti has one of the highest denial rates for asylum applications. The situation in Haiti is very unfortunate, but economic conditions do not make someone eligible for asylum.

We have a legal process to follow to rule they don’t. Asylum =|= illegal until it’s ruled as such. Democrats believe in the rule of law.

Crossing the border in between the ports of entry is against the law.

Democrats do not believe in the rule of law. They believe in chaos and lawlessness. We see that in their support of illegal immigration and of violent criminals.

It's not illegal to cross the border and request asylum. If you want it to be illegal, you need to change the law. The President cannot merely declare it so, Congress has to do it. Biden and Democrats have been telling you this for the last 4 years but you still don't understand.

No - Biden and Democrats have been gaslighting Americans for the last four years by insisting there was "no crisis at the border" and that "the border was secure." Let's be very clear: the Biden administration OWNS the border crisis. Had Biden not reversed all of Trump's border EOs, then we wouldn't have had the unprecedented numbers that we saw. It was only once Biden decided to stop gaslighting and sign his *own* EO that the numbers decreased. We have been telling you this over and over, but you refuse to admit you were gaslighting all of us. Shame on you.
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