I’m so sick of dogs everywhere

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Next time dogs are in your yard, take your young kids and have your kids run around in the yards of those neighbors if you know which yard is theirs. People who have dogs need to understand that not everyone likes dogs and certainty not yours!

I was just thinking as I read this thread how people would $hit actual bricks of human children did the stuff that people are defending letting dogs do on this thread. We've reached a weird point in society where if children are not perfectly behaved and supervised at all times, their parents are indicted as delinquent, but dogs should be allowed to roam off leash in city parks, dine at restaurants and wander grocery stores, go to the bathroom in people's yards, and bark all day and night, and if you complain *you* are the selfish one.

Strange days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next time dogs are in your yard, take your young kids and have your kids run around in the yards of those neighbors if you know which yard is theirs. People who have dogs need to understand that not everyone likes dogs and certainty not yours!

I was just thinking as I read this thread how people would $hit actual bricks of human children did the stuff that people are defending letting dogs do on this thread. We've reached a weird point in society where if children are not perfectly behaved and supervised at all times, their parents are indicted as delinquent, but dogs should be allowed to roam off leash in city parks, dine at restaurants and wander grocery stores, go to the bathroom in people's yards, and bark all day and night, and if you complain *you* are the selfish one.

Strange days.

Kids basically do all of these.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next time dogs are in your yard, take your young kids and have your kids run around in the yards of those neighbors if you know which yard is theirs. People who have dogs need to understand that not everyone likes dogs and certainty not yours!

I was just thinking as I read this thread how people would $hit actual bricks of human children did the stuff that people are defending letting dogs do on this thread. We've reached a weird point in society where if children are not perfectly behaved and supervised at all times, their parents are indicted as delinquent, but dogs should be allowed to roam off leash in city parks, dine at restaurants and wander grocery stores, go to the bathroom in people's yards, and bark all day and night, and if you complain *you* are the selfish one.

Strange days.

Kids basically do all of these.

Exactly, screaming tantruming kids at restaurants are better? Loud drunk obnoxious adults?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next time dogs are in your yard, take your young kids and have your kids run around in the yards of those neighbors if you know which yard is theirs. People who have dogs need to understand that not everyone likes dogs and certainty not yours!

I was just thinking as I read this thread how people would $hit actual bricks of human children did the stuff that people are defending letting dogs do on this thread. We've reached a weird point in society where if children are not perfectly behaved and supervised at all times, their parents are indicted as delinquent, but dogs should be allowed to roam off leash in city parks, dine at restaurants and wander grocery stores, go to the bathroom in people's yards, and bark all day and night, and if you complain *you* are the selfish one.

Strange days.

Kids basically do all of these.

I don't know kids who do any of these. I have never seen a kid pee in a neighbors yard while walking down the street or run up to a stranger and sniff their butt or steal food from people in a park or sit in a yard unattended while screaming at everyone who walked by. And if I did see a child doing these things I would be very concerned that their parent was negligent and might even call the cops because these are not okay things to do.

But apparently expecting dogs not to do these things is just unreasonable. Doesn't make sense to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next time dogs are in your yard, take your young kids and have your kids run around in the yards of those neighbors if you know which yard is theirs. People who have dogs need to understand that not everyone likes dogs and certainty not yours!

I was just thinking as I read this thread how people would $hit actual bricks of human children did the stuff that people are defending letting dogs do on this thread. We've reached a weird point in society where if children are not perfectly behaved and supervised at all times, their parents are indicted as delinquent, but dogs should be allowed to roam off leash in city parks, dine at restaurants and wander grocery stores, go to the bathroom in people's yards, and bark all day and night, and if you complain *you* are the selfish one.

Strange days.

Kids basically do all of these.

Exactly, screaming tantruming kids at restaurants are better? Loud drunk obnoxious adults?

People hate that behavior and complain about it all the time though. I've seen people with out of control kids or an adult who is drunk and loud be asked to leave if they are bothering other people.

The fact that sometimes kids behave poorly and some parents don't do anything about it does not mean that dog owners should be allowed to let their dogs do whatever they want.

Also for the millionth time, kids and dogs are different. Kids are people and have actual legal rights to be in certain places. Kids are also future adults so as a society we have a vested interest in them learning how to behave in different settings and learning how the world works. A kid tantrumming in a grocery store is annoying but also on some level that's part of the process of them learning out to be a person in the world and over time their behavior in the store will improve and their experience there will benefit them (and therefore also everyone else) eventually. A dog in a grocery store is just a dog in a grocery store. There's no social reason why dogs need acclimate to being in grocery stores. The dog wil not one day go to the grocery store alone and apply what it learned in all those trips there with it's "dog mom."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next time dogs are in your yard, take your young kids and have your kids run around in the yards of those neighbors if you know which yard is theirs. People who have dogs need to understand that not everyone likes dogs and certainty not yours!

I was just thinking as I read this thread how people would $hit actual bricks of human children did the stuff that people are defending letting dogs do on this thread. We've reached a weird point in society where if children are not perfectly behaved and supervised at all times, their parents are indicted as delinquent, but dogs should be allowed to roam off leash in city parks, dine at restaurants and wander grocery stores, go to the bathroom in people's yards, and bark all day and night, and if you complain *you* are the selfish one.

Strange days.

Kids basically do all of these.

Exactly, screaming tantruming kids at restaurants are better? Loud drunk obnoxious adults?

People hate that behavior and complain about it all the time though. I've seen people with out of control kids or an adult who is drunk and loud be asked to leave if they are bothering other people.

The fact that sometimes kids behave poorly and some parents don't do anything about it does not mean that dog owners should be allowed to let their dogs do whatever they want.

Also for the millionth time, kids and dogs are different. Kids are people and have actual legal rights to be in certain places. Kids are also future adults so as a society we have a vested interest in them learning how to behave in different settings and learning how the world works. A kid tantrumming in a grocery store is annoying but also on some level that's part of the process of them learning out to be a person in the world and over time their behavior in the store will improve and their experience there will benefit them (and therefore also everyone else) eventually. A dog in a grocery store is just a dog in a grocery store. There's no social reason why dogs need acclimate to being in grocery stores. The dog wil not one day go to the grocery store alone and apply what it learned in all those trips there with it's "dog mom."

And next will be that poster aka dog mom advocating that their dog also needs to be around for social reasons.

[Anonymous]

Any journalist reading here the thread - interested in writing or reporting about this subject?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next time dogs are in your yard, take your young kids and have your kids run around in the yards of those neighbors if you know which yard is theirs. People who have dogs need to understand that not everyone likes dogs and certainty not yours!

I was just thinking as I read this thread how people would $hit actual bricks of human children did the stuff that people are defending letting dogs do on this thread. We've reached a weird point in society where if children are not perfectly behaved and supervised at all times, their parents are indicted as delinquent, but dogs should be allowed to roam off leash in city parks, dine at restaurants and wander grocery stores, go to the bathroom in people's yards, and bark all day and night, and if you complain *you* are the selfish one.

Strange days.

Kids basically do all of these.

Kids pee and poop on others' yards? Really? Source?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was in a CVS the other day, and in the ten minutes I was there, I encountered three different dogs! How have we so quickly moved from being a society where it was unheard of to bring a non-service dog into a store, to everyone thinking that they have the right to bring their dog into every establishment with them?

Do they bring dogs in for security for them (human) or because they (human) are afraid to leave dog leashed outside alone?

Neither makes sense. Even if you think CVS is a dangerous place, most dogs would not serve as any kind of protection from someone with a gun and a violent intent. If you think CVS is scary, taking your schnauzer in there just means your schnauzer is now exposed to the same perceived danger.

And if you have a home, you don't have to take your dog to CVS and thus don't need to leave the dog leashed outside alone. You can just leave the dog in your home. If your dog can't be alone long enough for you to run to CVS then you need to hire a dog trainer to help you crate train your dog so that you can leave them home alone for at least short periods of time -- a dog too anxious to be left alone even for 30 minutes needs help.

I think that was meant to say leashed outside the cvs, not left alone outside the home while human is at cvs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was in a CVS the other day, and in the ten minutes I was there, I encountered three different dogs! How have we so quickly moved from being a society where it was unheard of to bring a non-service dog into a store, to everyone thinking that they have the right to bring their dog into every establishment with them?

Do they bring dogs in for security for them (human) or because they (human) are afraid to leave dog leashed outside alone?

Neither makes sense. Even if you think CVS is a dangerous place, most dogs would not serve as any kind of protection from someone with a gun and a violent intent. If you think CVS is scary, taking your schnauzer in there just means your schnauzer is now exposed to the same perceived danger.

And if you have a home, you don't have to take your dog to CVS and thus don't need to leave the dog leashed outside alone. You can just leave the dog in your home. If your dog can't be alone long enough for you to run to CVS then you need to hire a dog trainer to help you crate train your dog so that you can leave them home alone for at least short periods of time -- a dog too anxious to be left alone even for 30 minutes needs help.

I think that was meant to say leashed outside the cvs, not left alone outside the home while human is at cvs.

Just FYI, CVS is a poor example because many of them allow dogs. It's up to the discretion of the manager. I looked it up after noticing a bunch of dogs and then standing outside one with my own dog while my husband picked things up. The manager was beckoning us to come in, like "no need to wait outside!" Not something i would have otherwise considered, but there's some explanation for CVS at least.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next time dogs are in your yard, take your young kids and have your kids run around in the yards of those neighbors if you know which yard is theirs. People who have dogs need to understand that not everyone likes dogs and certainty not yours!

I was just thinking as I read this thread how people would $hit actual bricks of human children did the stuff that people are defending letting dogs do on this thread. We've reached a weird point in society where if children are not perfectly behaved and supervised at all times, their parents are indicted as delinquent, but dogs should be allowed to roam off leash in city parks, dine at restaurants and wander grocery stores, go to the bathroom in people's yards, and bark all day and night, and if you complain *you* are the selfish one.

Strange days.

Kids basically do all of these.

I don't know kids who do any of these. I have never seen a kid pee in a neighbors yard while walking down the street or run up to a stranger and sniff their butt or steal food from people in a park or sit in a yard unattended while screaming at everyone who walked by. And if I did see a child doing these things I would be very concerned that their parent was negligent and might even call the cops because these are not okay things to do.

But apparently expecting dogs not to do these things is just unreasonable. Doesn't make sense to me.

Well see, dogs are animals who pee and poop outside. Kids are people who pee and poop in toilets.

Do you not understand how these are different?

[Anonymous]

Can't watch that dog show after Thanksgiving parade any longer because of dogs being in every corner of our lives.

[Anonymous]

Lol I'm sick of irresponsible dog owners and irresponsible parents.
Both are just as bad as the other.

Personally I think both dogs and kids are just as gross as the other most times. Dogs are basically 3 year Olds. Both lick random objects and paint with poop and sneeze and c9ugh everywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next time dogs are in your yard, take your young kids and have your kids run around in the yards of those neighbors if you know which yard is theirs. People who have dogs need to understand that not everyone likes dogs and certainty not yours!

I was just thinking as I read this thread how people would $hit actual bricks of human children did the stuff that people are defending letting dogs do on this thread. We've reached a weird point in society where if children are not perfectly behaved and supervised at all times, their parents are indicted as delinquent, but dogs should be allowed to roam off leash in city parks, dine at restaurants and wander grocery stores, go to the bathroom in people's yards, and bark all day and night, and if you complain *you* are the selfish one.

Strange days.

Most dogs don't roam free and restaurants with outdoor patios often welcome dogs. Why keep your dog locked up neglected in the house all day. That's selfish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was in a CVS the other day, and in the ten minutes I was there, I encountered three different dogs! How have we so quickly moved from being a society where it was unheard of to bring a non-service dog into a store, to everyone thinking that they have the right to bring their dog into every establishment with them?

Do they bring dogs in for security for them (human) or because they (human) are afraid to leave dog leashed outside alone?

Neither makes sense. Even if you think CVS is a dangerous place, most dogs would not serve as any kind of protection from someone with a gun and a violent intent. If you think CVS is scary, taking your schnauzer in there just means your schnauzer is now exposed to the same perceived danger.

And if you have a home, you don't have to take your dog to CVS and thus don't need to leave the dog leashed outside alone. You can just leave the dog in your home. If your dog can't be alone long enough for you to run to CVS then you need to hire a dog trainer to help you crate train your dog so that you can leave them home alone for at least short periods of time -- a dog too anxious to be left alone even for 30 minutes needs help.

I think that was meant to say leashed outside the cvs, not left alone outside the home while human is at cvs.

My dog loves to ride in the car. Yes, sometimes we have to make an unexpected stop. A dog trainer cannot help crate train.