Waiver for HB Woodlawn

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Anonymous wrote:HBW should admit more students until it’s proportionally as overcrowded as the neighborhood schools. That improves overall fairness and actually helps the overcrowding. Having a hard cap while other schools grow without bounds is nonsense.

Not possible there’s no room for trailers.

WL has several red classrooms, HBW can be also be burdened with my larger classes no trailers needed

HB's classes are larger than you think. HB combines AP and regular into one class taught at the same time by one teacher. That doesn't show up on paper, but it sure shows up in reality.

It's funny how non HB parents seem to think HB is some magical education, but I bet they'd scream and yell if their kids had to take AP in a regular class with the regular kids.

I don't know if my kid just caught their stride, but HB doesn't seem hard at all and my kid struggled in ES. (Went to Cardinal).

H-B is taught at sped level to account for all of the sped kids that go there. Almost every class is blended until you get to the (literally) 4 or 5 self selecting classes in jr/sr year. Even then the kids aren't taught very well, especially since a couple of those teachers quit or retired in the past couple of years. Also, the average AP scores in some of those classes are below 3, if you understand the implications. Unless your kid's goal is to excel at being slightly above average, there really is no rigor at the school.

H-B parent here. This is an inaccurate and borderline unhinged take. To argue that everything is taught at a SPED level is bizarre. The 20 AP classes offered at H-B are sometimes blended, but the majority are not. There are many great teachers at that school who know how to teach to different learners in the same room. That's what good teachers do.

Kids have gone from H-B to MIT in consecutive years, and many elite admissions already for this years' seniors. That said, I do not think it's an inherently better school than any of the other APS schools. No need to hate. It's just different. Let students and families do what works for them. Admission is definitely a random lottery. There are pros and cons to that system, but more people are denied admission than granted it. There are clearly hurt feelings as a result.

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Anonymous wrote:HBW should admit more students until it’s proportionally as overcrowded as the neighborhood schools. That improves overall fairness and actually helps the overcrowding. Having a hard cap while other schools grow without bounds is nonsense.

Not possible there’s no room for trailers.

WL has several red classrooms, HBW can be also be burdened with my larger classes no trailers needed

HB's classes are larger than you think. HB combines AP and regular into one class taught at the same time by one teacher. That doesn't show up on paper, but it sure shows up in reality.

It's funny how non HB parents seem to think HB is some magical education, but I bet they'd scream and yell if their kids had to take AP in a regular class with the regular kids.

I don't know if my kid just caught their stride, but HB doesn't seem hard at all and my kid struggled in ES. (Went to Cardinal).

H-B is taught at sped level to account for all of the sped kids that go there. Almost every class is blended until you get to the (literally) 4 or 5 self selecting classes in jr/sr year. Even then the kids aren't taught very well, especially since a couple of those teachers quit or retired in the past couple of years. Also, the average AP scores in some of those classes are below 3, if you understand the implications. Unless your kid's goal is to excel at being slightly above average, there really is no rigor at the school.

H-B parent here. This is an inaccurate and borderline unhinged take. To argue that everything is taught at a SPED level is bizarre. The 20 AP classes offered at H-B are sometimes blended, but the majority are not. There are many great teachers at that school who know how to teach to different learners in the same room. That's what good teachers do.

Kids have gone from H-B to MIT in consecutive years, and many elite admissions already for this years' seniors. That said, I do not think it's an inherently better school than any of the other APS schools. No need to hate. It's just different. Let students and families do what works for them. Admission is definitely a random lottery. There are pros and cons to that system, but more people are denied admission than granted it. There are clearly hurt feelings as a result.

I know so many siblings at HBW, it’s clearly not random. And from prominent families, not some random Deloitte consultant but BigLaw, startups, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:HBW should admit more students until it’s proportionally as overcrowded as the neighborhood schools. That improves overall fairness and actually helps the overcrowding. Having a hard cap while other schools grow without bounds is nonsense.

Not possible there’s no room for trailers.

WL has several red classrooms, HBW can be also be burdened with my larger classes no trailers needed

HB's classes are larger than you think. HB combines AP and regular into one class taught at the same time by one teacher. That doesn't show up on paper, but it sure shows up in reality.

It's funny how non HB parents seem to think HB is some magical education, but I bet they'd scream and yell if their kids had to take AP in a regular class with the regular kids.

I don't know if my kid just caught their stride, but HB doesn't seem hard at all and my kid struggled in ES. (Went to Cardinal).

H-B is taught at sped level to account for all of the sped kids that go there. Almost every class is blended until you get to the (literally) 4 or 5 self selecting classes in jr/sr year. Even then the kids aren't taught very well, especially since a couple of those teachers quit or retired in the past couple of years. Also, the average AP scores in some of those classes are below 3, if you understand the implications. Unless your kid's goal is to excel at being slightly above average, there really is no rigor at the school.

H-B parent here. This is an inaccurate and borderline unhinged take. To argue that everything is taught at a SPED level is bizarre. The 20 AP classes offered at H-B are sometimes blended, but the majority are not. There are many great teachers at that school who know how to teach to different learners in the same room. That's what good teachers do.

Kids have gone from H-B to MIT in consecutive years, and many elite admissions already for this years' seniors. That said, I do not think it's an inherently better school than any of the other APS schools. No need to hate. It's just different. Let students and families do what works for them. Admission is definitely a random lottery. There are pros and cons to that system, but more people are denied admission than granted it. There are clearly hurt feelings as a result.

I know so many siblings at HBW, it’s clearly not random. And from prominent families, not some random Deloitte consultant but BigLaw, startups, etc.

LOL. The people with big jobs send their kids to private school.

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Anonymous wrote:HBW should admit more students until it’s proportionally as overcrowded as the neighborhood schools. That improves overall fairness and actually helps the overcrowding. Having a hard cap while other schools grow without bounds is nonsense.

Not possible there’s no room for trailers.

WL has several red classrooms, HBW can be also be burdened with my larger classes no trailers needed

HB's classes are larger than you think. HB combines AP and regular into one class taught at the same time by one teacher. That doesn't show up on paper, but it sure shows up in reality.

It's funny how non HB parents seem to think HB is some magical education, but I bet they'd scream and yell if their kids had to take AP in a regular class with the regular kids.

I don't know if my kid just caught their stride, but HB doesn't seem hard at all and my kid struggled in ES. (Went to Cardinal).

H-B is taught at sped level to account for all of the sped kids that go there. Almost every class is blended until you get to the (literally) 4 or 5 self selecting classes in jr/sr year. Even then the kids aren't taught very well, especially since a couple of those teachers quit or retired in the past couple of years. Also, the average AP scores in some of those classes are below 3, if you understand the implications. Unless your kid's goal is to excel at being slightly above average, there really is no rigor at the school.

H-B parent here. This is an inaccurate and borderline unhinged take. To argue that everything is taught at a SPED level is bizarre. The 20 AP classes offered at H-B are sometimes blended, but the majority are not. There are many great teachers at that school who know how to teach to different learners in the same room. That's what good teachers do.

Kids have gone from H-B to MIT in consecutive years, and many elite admissions already for this years' seniors. That said, I do not think it's an inherently better school than any of the other APS schools. No need to hate. It's just different. Let students and families do what works for them. Admission is definitely a random lottery. There are pros and cons to that system, but more people are denied admission than granted it. There are clearly hurt feelings as a result.

I know so many siblings at HBW, it’s clearly not random. And from prominent families, not some random Deloitte consultant but BigLaw, startups, etc.

Here we go with the unhinged conspiracy theories.

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All schools in APS are full of parents in biglaw, startups, etc. Funny you think that means prominent. Here in APS, that's just normal.

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Anonymous wrote:HB has worked out really well for us and I am thankful nearly every day that we (1) thought to enter the lottery during fifth grade and (2) won that lottery. I’m sorry you were not as lucky, but if it helps, my kid did have a terrible elementary school experience, with bullies and an administration that largely failed her (although some of her teachers were life savers). So by the time we got to HB my kid had been through A LOT and she is very happy to be there.

I suggest we make a separate school for the bullies and the mean girls. Then the rest of our kids can learn in peace.

HB parents are delighted at their private school experience on public dime.

News at 11.

Also, water is wet.

Fixed it for you-

I don’t for a second think HB is at all like the (good) private schools around here. But it’s still 100% a program that should be offered in APS.

DP, but no, it was right the first time.

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Anonymous wrote:If it's this bad, why are parents clamoring to go there?

It's a shiny new building and people don't like schools being what they perceive as too big and/or overcrowded. Also, because of self-selection of having to take action to register for a lottery, you are guaranteeing kids who have some level of parental involvement.

A big public school is always going to offer more activities and more differentiation just because of sheer volume of students.

If your kid is brilliant and a self starter and won’t fall in a slacker crowd, WL is excellent and YHS and WHS are pretty great.

If your kid might be challenged or need attention from a teacher to thrive, they will not be noticed at the supersized schools and will fall through cracks. They may be enticed to join a crew that skips class, vapes in the bathrooms, etc since their is so little oversight at these schools.

Big surprise. A completely self-serving take.