Waiver for HB Woodlawn

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Anonymous wrote:The lottery is available to anyone in the county who wants to attend. Your kid had the same shot mine did. That’s fair. You only think it’s not because yours didn’t win the random lottery.

Should we get rid of everything in APS that all kids can’t have exactly the same? How about AP classes? Sports teams?

Multiple people are replying here. How do you know who entered the lottery or how old their kids are? You are looking at this from a "you" perspective and some people are looking at it from a "community" perspective. We get it, you won the lottery so you are good with it. You are entitled to your opinion. Other people see it differently.

Why not make it a magnet school, so at least students who worked hard and excelled could perceive to deserve it.

But right now with lottery, there is always the perception that someone can sneak in.

I would prefer to invest in neighborhood schools since magnets have their own fairness problems

The perception that someone can sneak in is only in your mind, and isn't a real problem.

BS. I know so many siblings at HB from NA schools. That’s fishy as he11.

Hahaha, so you know some siblings at HB, so there must be something fishy? Thanks for the window into how your little mind works. I know so many families who did not get siblings into HB, including my own. What do you make of that?

The odds of siblings getting in is VERY small.

Your case is typical. Obv there are some lottery entrees, it’s not all rigged. That would be too easy to spot.

What is your point exactly? And why the ad hominem attack on my “mind”?

Ok, tell us then. What are the odds of a younger sibling getting in vs the number of siblings who actually do get in?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The lottery is available to anyone in the county who wants to attend. Your kid had the same shot mine did. That’s fair. You only think it’s not because yours didn’t win the random lottery.

Should we get rid of everything in APS that all kids can’t have exactly the same? How about AP classes? Sports teams?

Multiple people are replying here. How do you know who entered the lottery or how old their kids are? You are looking at this from a "you" perspective and some people are looking at it from a "community" perspective. We get it, you won the lottery so you are good with it. You are entitled to your opinion. Other people see it differently.

Why not make it a magnet school, so at least students who worked hard and excelled could perceive to deserve it.

But right now with lottery, there is always the perception that someone can sneak in.

I would prefer to invest in neighborhood schools since magnets have their own fairness problems

The perception that someone can sneak in is only in your mind, and isn't a real problem.

BS. I know so many siblings at HB from NA schools. That’s fishy as he11.

Hahaha, so you know some siblings at HB, so there must be something fishy? Thanks for the window into how your little mind works. I know so many families who did not get siblings into HB, including my own. What do you make of that?

The odds of siblings getting in is VERY small.

Your case is typical. Obv there are some lottery entrees, it’s not all rigged. That would be too easy to spot.

What is your point exactly? And why the ad hominem attack on my “mind”?

Ok, tell us then. What are the odds of a younger sibling getting in vs the number of siblings who actually do get in?

About 1%.

I knew of two siblings at the school.

Each year there average about 20 kids from our school applying (and it was more before the private exodus), with 2 spots that 10%.

So two 10% chances means that it’s a 1% chance they both get in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The lottery is available to anyone in the county who wants to attend. Your kid had the same shot mine did. That’s fair. You only think it’s not because yours didn’t win the random lottery.

Should we get rid of everything in APS that all kids can’t have exactly the same? How about AP classes? Sports teams?

Multiple people are replying here. How do you know who entered the lottery or how old their kids are? You are looking at this from a "you" perspective and some people are looking at it from a "community" perspective. We get it, you won the lottery so you are good with it. You are entitled to your opinion. Other people see it differently.

Why not make it a magnet school, so at least students who worked hard and excelled could perceive to deserve it.

But right now with lottery, there is always the perception that someone can sneak in.

I would prefer to invest in neighborhood schools since magnets have their own fairness problems

The perception that someone can sneak in is only in your mind, and isn't a real problem.

BS. I know so many siblings at HB from NA schools. That’s fishy as he11.

Hahaha, so you know some siblings at HB, so there must be something fishy? Thanks for the window into how your little mind works. I know so many families who did not get siblings into HB, including my own. What do you make of that?

The odds of siblings getting in is VERY small.

Your case is typical. Obv there are some lottery entrees, it’s not all rigged. That would be too easy to spot.

What is your point exactly? And why the ad hominem attack on my “mind”?

Ok, tell us then. What are the odds of a younger sibling getting in vs the number of siblings who actually do get in?

About 1%.

I knew of two siblings at the school.

Each year there average about 20 kids from our school applying (and it was more before the private exodus), with 2 spots that 10%.

So two 10% chances means that it’s a 1% chance they both get in.

You have to factor in how many younger siblings apply. From what I know (as an HB parent), younger siblings of a current HB student almost always apply because the family already knows the school and parents often want both their kids at the same school. If a family has an older kids at W-L already, the younger one is less likely to apply to HB.

So when there is a bigger percentage of siblings applying as part of the pool, there are going to be more selected in the random lottery. Simple math.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous]Has anyone heard of a medical waiver being approved for a student to transfer into HB Woodlawn for middle school? My child’s psychiatrist believes this school would provide the best learning environment for them. I am doubtful this exists let alone would be approved. The child would be coming from a non-APS school in 7th. [/quote]


OP did you get in or are you on the waitlist for HB? Curious what you are doing. We are in a similar situation except we are in APS already. I'm starting to realize I need to be ok with our neighborhood middle school, move or go private.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The lottery is available to anyone in the county who wants to attend. Your kid had the same shot mine did. That’s fair. You only think it’s not because yours didn’t win the random lottery.

Should we get rid of everything in APS that all kids can’t have exactly the same? How about AP classes? Sports teams?

Multiple people are replying here. How do you know who entered the lottery or how old their kids are? You are looking at this from a "you" perspective and some people are looking at it from a "community" perspective. We get it, you won the lottery so you are good with it. You are entitled to your opinion. Other people see it differently.

Why not make it a magnet school, so at least students who worked hard and excelled could perceive to deserve it.

But right now with lottery, there is always the perception that someone can sneak in.

I would prefer to invest in neighborhood schools since magnets have their own fairness problems

The perception that someone can sneak in is only in your mind, and isn't a real problem.

BS. I know so many siblings at HB from NA schools. That’s fishy as he11.

Hahaha, so you know some siblings at HB, so there must be something fishy? Thanks for the window into how your little mind works. I know so many families who did not get siblings into HB, including my own. What do you make of that?

The odds of siblings getting in is VERY small.

Your case is typical. Obv there are some lottery entrees, it’s not all rigged. That would be too easy to spot.

What is your point exactly? And why the ad hominem attack on my “mind”?

Ok, tell us then. What are the odds of a younger sibling getting in vs the number of siblings who actually do get in?

About 1%.

I knew of two siblings at the school.

Each year there average about 20 kids from our school applying (and it was more before the private exodus), with 2 spots that 10%.

So two 10% chances means that it’s a 1% chance they both get in.

You have to factor in how many younger siblings apply. From what I know (as an HB parent), younger siblings of a current HB student almost always apply because the family already knows the school and parents often want both their kids at the same school. If a family has an older kids at W-L already, the younger one is less likely to apply to HB.

So when there is a bigger percentage of siblings applying as part of the pool, there are going to be more selected in the random lottery. Simple math.

Maybe, but its still very long odds.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Has anyone heard of a medical waiver being approved for a student to transfer into HB Woodlawn for middle school? My child’s psychiatrist believes this school would provide the best learning environment for them. I am doubtful this exists let alone would be approved. The child would be coming from a non-APS school in 7th. [/quote]


OP did you get in or are you on the waitlist for HB? Curious what you are doing. We are in a similar situation except we are in APS already. I'm starting to realize I need to be ok with our neighborhood middle school, move or go private. [/quote]

A medical waiver from HB is such a trollish thing to ask about... you know it will cause division.

Why not just post about APS paying for your "medically necessary" private school tuition?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The lottery is available to anyone in the county who wants to attend. Your kid had the same shot mine did. That’s fair. You only think it’s not because yours didn’t win the random lottery.

Should we get rid of everything in APS that all kids can’t have exactly the same? How about AP classes? Sports teams?

Multiple people are replying here. How do you know who entered the lottery or how old their kids are? You are looking at this from a "you" perspective and some people are looking at it from a "community" perspective. We get it, you won the lottery so you are good with it. You are entitled to your opinion. Other people see it differently.

Why not make it a magnet school, so at least students who worked hard and excelled could perceive to deserve it.

But right now with lottery, there is always the perception that someone can sneak in.

I would prefer to invest in neighborhood schools since magnets have their own fairness problems

The perception that someone can sneak in is only in your mind, and isn't a real problem.

BS. I know so many siblings at HB from NA schools. That’s fishy as he11.

Hahaha, so you know some siblings at HB, so there must be something fishy? Thanks for the window into how your little mind works. I know so many families who did not get siblings into HB, including my own. What do you make of that?

The odds of siblings getting in is VERY small.

Your case is typical. Obv there are some lottery entrees, it’s not all rigged. That would be too easy to spot.

What is your point exactly? And why the ad hominem attack on my “mind”?

Ok, tell us then. What are the odds of a younger sibling getting in vs the number of siblings who actually do get in?

About 1%.

I knew of two siblings at the school.

Each year there average about 20 kids from our school applying (and it was more before the private exodus), with 2 spots that 10%.

So two 10% chances means that it’s a 1% chance they both get in.

You have to factor in how many younger siblings apply. From what I know (as an HB parent), younger siblings of a current HB student almost always apply because the family already knows the school and parents often want both their kids at the same school. If a family has an older kids at W-L already, the younger one is less likely to apply to HB.

So when there is a bigger percentage of siblings applying as part of the pool, there are going to be more selected in the random lottery. Simple math.

Maybe, but its still very long odds.

Depends on the elementary school. Carline Springs had 3 applicants for 3 spots last year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The lottery is available to anyone in the county who wants to attend. Your kid had the same shot mine did. That’s fair. You only think it’s not because yours didn’t win the random lottery.

Should we get rid of everything in APS that all kids can’t have exactly the same? How about AP classes? Sports teams?

Multiple people are replying here. How do you know who entered the lottery or how old their kids are? You are looking at this from a "you" perspective and some people are looking at it from a "community" perspective. We get it, you won the lottery so you are good with it. You are entitled to your opinion. Other people see it differently.

Why not make it a magnet school, so at least students who worked hard and excelled could perceive to deserve it.

But right now with lottery, there is always the perception that someone can sneak in.

I would prefer to invest in neighborhood schools since magnets have their own fairness problems

The perception that someone can sneak in is only in your mind, and isn't a real problem.

BS. I know so many siblings at HB from NA schools. That’s fishy as he11.

Hahaha, so you know some siblings at HB, so there must be something fishy? Thanks for the window into how your little mind works. I know so many families who did not get siblings into HB, including my own. What do you make of that?

The odds of siblings getting in is VERY small.

Your case is typical. Obv there are some lottery entrees, it’s not all rigged. That would be too easy to spot.

What is your point exactly? And why the ad hominem attack on my “mind”?

Ok, tell us then. What are the odds of a younger sibling getting in vs the number of siblings who actually do get in?

About 1%.

I knew of two siblings at the school.

Each year there average about 20 kids from our school applying (and it was more before the private exodus), with 2 spots that 10%.

So two 10% chances means that it’s a 1% chance they both get in.

2 siblings at the school isn't that many. That's very different from 2 siblings getting in every year, which is how you calculated your odds. Also even if there were 2 each year, each little sibling has a 10 percent chance to get in. The second applicant's chances don't go down just because the first one got it. It's like when you flip a coin, the odds are always 50-50, the odds of a tail don't change on the second toss based on the first toss.

[Anonymous]

Neighbors had two kids go to HB. I think first got in at a random year (like 10th grade?) and I think the other got in at 9th.

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Anonymous wrote:The lottery is available to anyone in the county who wants to attend. Your kid had the same shot mine did. That’s fair. You only think it’s not because yours didn’t win the random lottery.

Should we get rid of everything in APS that all kids can’t have exactly the same? How about AP classes? Sports teams?

Multiple people are replying here. How do you know who entered the lottery or how old their kids are? You are looking at this from a "you" perspective and some people are looking at it from a "community" perspective. We get it, you won the lottery so you are good with it. You are entitled to your opinion. Other people see it differently.

Why not make it a magnet school, so at least students who worked hard and excelled could perceive to deserve it.

But right now with lottery, there is always the perception that someone can sneak in.

I would prefer to invest in neighborhood schools since magnets have their own fairness problems

The perception that someone can sneak in is only in your mind, and isn't a real problem.

BS. I know so many siblings at HB from NA schools. That’s fishy as he11.

Hahaha, so you know some siblings at HB, so there must be something fishy? Thanks for the window into how your little mind works. I know so many families who did not get siblings into HB, including my own. What do you make of that?

The odds of siblings getting in is VERY small.

Your case is typical. Obv there are some lottery entrees, it’s not all rigged. That would be too easy to spot.

What is your point exactly? And why the ad hominem attack on my “mind”?

Ok, tell us then. What are the odds of a younger sibling getting in vs the number of siblings who actually do get in?

About 1%.

I knew of two siblings at the school.

Each year there average about 20 kids from our school applying (and it was more before the private exodus), with 2 spots that 10%.

So two 10% chances means that it’s a 1% chance they both get in.

2 siblings at the school isn't that many. That's very different from 2 siblings getting in every year, which is how you calculated your odds. Also even if there were 2 each year, each little sibling has a 10 percent chance to get in. The second applicant's chances don't go down just because the first one got it. It's like when you flip a coin, the odds are always 50-50, the odds of a tail don't change on the second toss based on the first toss.

But the odds of both being tails is 25%. Just like if each has a 10% chance of getting in, the chance of both getting in is 1%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The lottery is available to anyone in the county who wants to attend. Your kid had the same shot mine did. That’s fair. You only think it’s not because yours didn’t win the random lottery.

Should we get rid of everything in APS that all kids can’t have exactly the same? How about AP classes? Sports teams?

Multiple people are replying here. How do you know who entered the lottery or how old their kids are? You are looking at this from a "you" perspective and some people are looking at it from a "community" perspective. We get it, you won the lottery so you are good with it. You are entitled to your opinion. Other people see it differently.

Why not make it a magnet school, so at least students who worked hard and excelled could perceive to deserve it.

But right now with lottery, there is always the perception that someone can sneak in.

I would prefer to invest in neighborhood schools since magnets have their own fairness problems

The perception that someone can sneak in is only in your mind, and isn't a real problem.

BS. I know so many siblings at HB from NA schools. That’s fishy as he11.

Hahaha, so you know some siblings at HB, so there must be something fishy? Thanks for the window into how your little mind works. I know so many families who did not get siblings into HB, including my own. What do you make of that?

The odds of siblings getting in is VERY small.

Your case is typical. Obv there are some lottery entrees, it’s not all rigged. That would be too easy to spot.

What is your point exactly? And why the ad hominem attack on my “mind”?

Ok, tell us then. What are the odds of a younger sibling getting in vs the number of siblings who actually do get in?

About 1%.

I knew of two siblings at the school.

Each year there average about 20 kids from our school applying (and it was more before the private exodus), with 2 spots that 10%.

So two 10% chances means that it’s a 1% chance they both get in.

2 siblings at the school isn't that many. That's very different from 2 siblings getting in every year, which is how you calculated your odds. Also even if there were 2 each year, each little sibling has a 10 percent chance to get in. The second applicant's chances don't go down just because the first one got it. It's like when you flip a coin, the odds are always 50-50, the odds of a tail don't change on the second toss based on the first toss.

But the odds of both being tails is 25%. Just like if each has a 10% chance of getting in, the chance of both getting in is 1%.

But each sibling isn't in the same lottery. They are in entirely different lotteries, each of which have their own odds depending on how many kids apply that year.

[Anonymous]

H-B alum here - since the lottery was implemented there have been many staff whose kids didn't get in. One of my favorite teachers had kids around my age, and one of them got in, one of them didn't. I was friends with the one didn't get in despite entering the lottery multiple times. If there was a back door or if the lottery was rigged, beloved longtime teachers like the ones I have in mind would have been able to work it. The conspiracy theorists need to take a deep breath.

[Anonymous]

I had 2 kids at HB, one graduated and the other is still there. They got in at different grades- 6 and 9. The year my youngest got in she was one of 15 applicants for 3 spots at her elementary. I don’t have any special pull or anything they were both just picked and then I was notified. It does happen!

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Anonymous wrote:The lottery is available to anyone in the county who wants to attend. Your kid had the same shot mine did. That’s fair. You only think it’s not because yours didn’t win the random lottery.

Should we get rid of everything in APS that all kids can’t have exactly the same? How about AP classes? Sports teams?

Multiple people are replying here. How do you know who entered the lottery or how old their kids are? You are looking at this from a "you" perspective and some people are looking at it from a "community" perspective. We get it, you won the lottery so you are good with it. You are entitled to your opinion. Other people see it differently.

Why not make it a magnet school, so at least students who worked hard and excelled could perceive to deserve it.

But right now with lottery, there is always the perception that someone can sneak in.

I would prefer to invest in neighborhood schools since magnets have their own fairness problems

The perception that someone can sneak in is only in your mind, and isn't a real problem.

BS. I know so many siblings at HB from NA schools. That’s fishy as he11.

Hahaha, so you know some siblings at HB, so there must be something fishy? Thanks for the window into how your little mind works. I know so many families who did not get siblings into HB, including my own. What do you make of that?

The odds of siblings getting in is VERY small.

Your case is typical. Obv there are some lottery entrees, it’s not all rigged. That would be too easy to spot.

What is your point exactly? And why the ad hominem attack on my “mind”?

Ok, tell us then. What are the odds of a younger sibling getting in vs the number of siblings who actually do get in?

About 1%.

I knew of two siblings at the school.

Each year there average about 20 kids from our school applying (and it was more before the private exodus), with 2 spots that 10%.

So two 10% chances means that it’s a 1% chance they both get in.

2 siblings at the school isn't that many. That's very different from 2 siblings getting in every year, which is how you calculated your odds. Also even if there were 2 each year, each little sibling has a 10 percent chance to get in. The second applicant's chances don't go down just because the first one got it. It's like when you flip a coin, the odds are always 50-50, the odds of a tail don't change on the second toss based on the first toss.

But the odds of both being tails is 25%. Just like if each has a 10% chance of getting in, the chance of both getting in is 1%.

But each sibling isn't in the same lottery. They are in entirely different lotteries, each of which have their own odds depending on how many kids apply that year.

We are talking about two independent coin flips. Just like two independent lotteries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:H-B alum here - since the lottery was implemented there have been many staff whose kids didn't get in. One of my favorite teachers had kids around my age, and one of them got in, one of them didn't. I was friends with the one didn't get in despite entering the lottery multiple times. If there was a back door or if the lottery was rigged, beloved longtime teachers like the ones I have in mind would have been able to work it. The conspiracy theorists need to take a deep breath.

Haha, administration and board members don’t care about teacher. How could you have missed that after how they treated you the last decade?