New boundary study for Churchill, Clarksburg, Damascus, Gaithersburg, RM, Northwest, Poolesville, QO, SV, WM, Wootton

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Giving this one its own thread.

This morning, MCPS staff proposed combining the boundary studies for Crown and Damascus high schools into one large study with the following high schools and their feeder middle schools in scope: Churchill, Clarksburg, Damascus, Gaithersburg, Richard Montgomery, Northwest, Poolesville, Quince Orchard, Seneca Valley, Watkins Mill, and Wootton.

The boundary study process would happen during 2025, and the final boundary vote would be in March 2026.

Detailed timeline:

Spring 2024--Request for Proposal released
Summer 2024--Board approves consultant
Fall 2024--Prepare for community engagement
Early 2025-Fall/Winter 2025--Boundary study process
January 2026--Boundary Study Report released
Early February 2026--Recommendation released
Late February-March 2026--Board work sessions, public hearings and action

This study has been proposed, but not approved by the board yet. That would happen at their March 19th meeting.

Early April 2026 - some parents complain about change
Summer 2026 - board votes to leave it the way its been for 40+ years

You think they're just going to leave Woodward and Crown empty?

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Anonymous wrote:What would make the most sense is if all of City of Gaithersburg that is west of 270 goes to crown. QO becomes the North Potomac and Darnestown school.

The "building blocks" will be the existing elementary school boundaries, not the area cities or zip codes.

So Rachel Carson, Brown Station, Diamond, Fields Road, and Rosemont to Crown.

KF and Central Office / Hungerford crowd will get their own brand new school. The apartments down Muddy Branch and near the 270/370 split are the closest to Crown, so it's a wonderful fit and really demonstrates MCPS cares about equity! Those kids deserve a brand new school! Travillah, North Potomac, and Darnestown can just go to the old QO school.

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Anonymous wrote:If MCPS has good schools with top-notch education programs, FARMS won't matter one way or the other. Parents that care about education will relocate to the county for their children's educational opportunities.

It seems MCPS has given up trying to provide top-notch programs. Now their only strategy is to shift around poor people in the hopes of watering down issues at their home schools.

However, the assumption that poor=problem is one MCPS CO is making up themselves. Instead the CO should step up and go sit daily at the schools with problems and instead of at Hungerford. And they should sit there, at that school, until it's problems have been fixed.

This is nonsense. Even in MCPS, there's a direct correlation between test scores and poverty. Schools with the least poverty have the highest averages. Even schools where many kids do as well as anywhere have a lower average because they shoulder more poverty. You can try to pretend it doesn't matter but it really does.

This is nonsense. Even in MCPS, you can pretend that FARMS can be solved by the school, but not really.

The "direct correlation between test scores and poverty" is pretty straight-forward. Parents who are educated tend to educate at home and seek out schools with high academic standards. Parents who are not educated, on average, earn less income. A child without academic support at home is less likely to academically succeed. The compensating factor would be to offer free tutoring (which MCPS did). The question is how many FARMS students even took advantage of the program? You can lead a horse to water..

Pretend all you want, but the school can't change a child's parents.

Some of it is also genetics. Those with higher incomes often have higher IQ's they pass onto their kids/

Poor kids and rich kids are not each homogenous groups. Most poor kids care about school and are bright, some are even gifted, but they are put in learning environments with the most troubled children and that are least conducive to learning

Wrong. With restorative justice, classrooms are equitable.

Great. So there should be no problem adjusting boundaries to relieve crowding. The RJ and other initiatives would simply follow, proportionately, the populations in need to preserve that equitability.

Huh? You’re smoking some serious pot. If Crown or Rio gets trashed by gangs and drug dealers in the name of RJ and equity, you can bet the Council will be looking for other employment- and not with MCPS since their budget would get slashed to pay for damages. Rio is one of the few relatively-low-crime-areas in the county.

Take this bull somewhere else.

Think it's bull, huh? That area isn't like Silver Spring where it's okay for gangs to take over the streets and run doughnuts all night long. But if you think nothing will happen, then let's see if MCPS is right or whether it will be the fastest school-to-jail pipeline in the County?

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As long as King Farm all goes to one high school, which my guess will be Gaithersburg. So stupid to split a neighborhood up to two high schools

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Anonymous wrote:Dufief, Travilah, Stone Mill, Jones Lane, Thurgood Marshall, Darnestown to QO.

Are we just going to close Wootton?

? Crown isn't going to be *that* big. There are enough students from the surrounding over capacity HS -- RM, GHS, QO -- to keep Wootton open.

Ritchie Park will end up going to Wootton as it should since it is walking distance.

I doubt they will move both Ritchie Park and King farm from RM.

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Anonymous wrote:Dufief, Travilah, Stone Mill, Jones Lane, Thurgood Marshall, Darnestown to QO.

Are we just going to close Wootton?

? Crown isn't going to be *that* big. There are enough students from the surrounding over capacity HS -- RM, GHS, QO -- to keep Wootton open.

Ritchie Park will end up going to Wootton as it should since it is walking distance.

I doubt they will move both Ritchie Park and King farm from RM.

Much of Ritchie Park is not in walking distance...like Park Potomac.

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Anonymous wrote:They are probably going to put all the lower income neighborhoods in the area at crown.

Nope. They will put Falls Grove there, and that area is a mix of SES, including some higher income families.

Falls Grove goes to Ritchie Park. If they cannot break up an ES boundary, they aren't likely to do this.

It's called split articulation, which Wootton also has.

The split articulation happens after middle school - JWMS. Cold Spring ES split articulation starts in MS -- Cabin John vs Frost.

FG is going to Crown. It should. It's a few blocks from Crown.

Wootton's split articulation occurs between middle school and high school. There is no such split from elementary school to middle school that I am aware of.

I just posted about split articulation for cold spring es going to frost and cabin john.

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Anonymous wrote:They are probably going to put all the lower income neighborhoods in the area at crown.

Nope. They will put Falls Grove there, and that area is a mix of SES, including some higher income families.

Falls Grove goes to Ritchie Park. If they cannot break up an ES boundary, they aren't likely to do this.

It's called split articulation, which Wootton also has.

The split articulation happens after middle school - JWMS. Cold Spring ES split articulation starts in MS -- Cabin John vs Frost.

FG is going to Crown. It should. It's a few blocks from Crown.

Wootton's split articulation occurs between middle school and high school. There is no such split from elementary school to middle school that I am aware of.

I just posted about split articulation for cold spring es going to frost and cabin john.

Cold Spring doesn't feed to Frost, only Cabin John.

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Anonymous wrote:As long as King Farm all goes to one high school, which my guess will be Gaithersburg. So stupid to split a neighborhood up to two high schools

King Farm is already split between two elementary schools (and will remain so).

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Anonymous wrote:Dufief, Travilah, Stone Mill, Jones Lane, Thurgood Marshall, Darnestown to QO.

Are we just going to close Wootton?

Wooton needs to make room for 600 units at The Grove.

The Grove is right next to Crown. Why would they remove Stone Mill and Dufief, and then bus those kids PAST those neighborhoods to get to Wootton? And do you have any idea how many kids you're talking about removing from Wootton?

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Anonymous wrote:Dufief, Travilah, Stone Mill, Jones Lane, Thurgood Marshall, Darnestown to QO.

Explain the logic in removing more than half of Wootton's entire student body when it's already 200 students under capacity.

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Anonymous wrote:Dufief, Travilah, Stone Mill, Jones Lane, Thurgood Marshall, Darnestown to QO.

Explain the logic in removing more than half of Wootton's entire student body when it's already 200 students under capacity.

Also this brilliant suggestion leaves the Washingtonian towers, which are walkable to Crown, districted to Wootton.

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Anonymous wrote:Dufief, Travilah, Stone Mill, Jones Lane, Thurgood Marshall, Darnestown to QO.

Explain the logic in removing more than half of Wootton's entire student body when it's already 200 students under capacity.

Because they need to remove the asbestos?

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Anonymous wrote:Dufief, Travilah, Stone Mill, Jones Lane, Thurgood Marshall, Darnestown to QO.

Explain the logic in removing more than half of Wootton's entire student body when it's already 200 students under capacity.

Because they need to remove the asbestos?

That has nothing to do with the upcoming redistricting.

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Anonymous wrote:Dufief, Travilah, Stone Mill, Jones Lane, Thurgood Marshall, Darnestown to QO.

Explain the logic in removing more than half of Wootton's entire student body when it's already 200 students under capacity.

Because they need to remove the asbestos?

What upcoming work will require them to remove asbestos-containing materials?