Waitlisted at TJ - now what?

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post the link to these "TJ Papers?"

Here’s an earlier thread with a link. The conduct of the School Board was embarrassing: even if you didn’t conclude some were anti-Asian and racist, you might still conclude they were unprincipled and deeply incompetent. The only way these people could ever be re-elected is if there are enough people who just blindly vote for candidates endorsed by the Democrats (in which case they fully deserve four more years of FCPS decline):

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1028206.page

I agree the board acted deplorably; nevertheless, with a 59% share of TJ seats I can't take these claims seriously.

Ok. Don’t take them seriously. I don’t think anyone is appealing to you in any case.

The rational majority will speak when the next elections happen.

I suspect that you are going to be sorely disappointed. I would vote for a moderate Republican but the Republicans that end up running are anything but Moderate and will not receive the votes of the majority of the people in this region.

That said, the school board behaved poorly.

And I don’t have a problem with the changes as they stand. I think that guaranteeing seats to every MS is a good call. I prefer using metrics that every student can meet, ie classes and grades from MS and not extra curricular activities that not all kids have access to is fine. I do wish they would increase the GPA to 3.75, include all classes and not just the core classes, and require kids have Geometry before completing 8th grade.

The reality is that increasing the number of URM is going to decrease the number of Asian kids at TJ because the Asian kids are highly overrepresented at TJ.

Maybe they should also increase the number of Sophmores and Juniors who are allowed to transfer into TJ. Perhaps a summer class to make up for whatever it was that they missed would be required?

It’s despicable to say Asian kids are over-represented at TJ. It’s no different than saying Jewish people are over-represented at the Treasury Department. You are disgusting and should be ashamed of yourself.

And if any group is over-representatives it’s women on the School Board and hopefully many will be removed soon.

It's not despicable. It's basic mathematics. Over-represented is not a value judgment.

College educated people are over represented in federal jobs. We should do something about it. Not everyone has the ability or desire to go to college. Penalizing them would be inequitable.

Coalition-aligned folks major in drawing comparisons where there are none.

Jobs are not the same as educational opportunities. Nor are places on sports teams.

True but the coalition folks aren't very bright and just don't care about anything beyond their own interests.

Yes, the coalition folks are pretty awful. They want an admission policy that allows them to buy entry.

Actually the reformers are pork barrel politicians who want racial quotas - it is pretty obvious from the gerrymandering of the TJ admissions process. Twist and turn the admissions process so that you can get the outcome you want without calling out race. Much like gerrymandering.

You used the word gerrymandering here - it doesn't mean what you think it does.

Go back to school.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post the link to these "TJ Papers?"

Here’s an earlier thread with a link. The conduct of the School Board was embarrassing: even if you didn’t conclude some were anti-Asian and racist, you might still conclude they were unprincipled and deeply incompetent. The only way these people could ever be re-elected is if there are enough people who just blindly vote for candidates endorsed by the Democrats (in which case they fully deserve four more years of FCPS decline):

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1028206.page

I agree the board acted deplorably; nevertheless, with a 59% share of TJ seats I can't take these claims seriously.

Ok. Don’t take them seriously. I don’t think anyone is appealing to you in any case.

The rational majority will speak when the next elections happen.

I suspect that you are going to be sorely disappointed. I would vote for a moderate Republican but the Republicans that end up running are anything but Moderate and will not receive the votes of the majority of the people in this region.

That said, the school board behaved poorly.

And I don’t have a problem with the changes as they stand. I think that guaranteeing seats to every MS is a good call. I prefer using metrics that every student can meet, ie classes and grades from MS and not extra curricular activities that not all kids have access to is fine. I do wish they would increase the GPA to 3.75, include all classes and not just the core classes, and require kids have Geometry before completing 8th grade.

The reality is that increasing the number of URM is going to decrease the number of Asian kids at TJ because the Asian kids are highly overrepresented at TJ.

Maybe they should also increase the number of Sophmores and Juniors who are allowed to transfer into TJ. Perhaps a summer class to make up for whatever it was that they missed would be required?

It’s despicable to say Asian kids are over-represented at TJ. It’s no different than saying Jewish people are over-represented at the Treasury Department. You are disgusting and should be ashamed of yourself.

And if any group is over-representatives it’s women on the School Board and hopefully many will be removed soon.

It's not despicable. It's basic mathematics. Over-represented is not a value judgment.

College educated people are over represented in federal jobs. We should do something about it. Not everyone has the ability or desire to go to college. Penalizing them would be inequitable.

Coalition-aligned folks major in drawing comparisons where there are none.

Jobs are not the same as educational opportunities. Nor are places on sports teams.

True but the coalition folks aren't very bright and just don't care about anything beyond their own interests.

Yes, the coalition folks are pretty awful. They want an admission policy that allows them to buy entry.

Actually the reformers are pork barrel politicians who want racial quotas - it is pretty obvious from the gerrymandering of the TJ admissions process. Twist and turn the admissions process so that you can get the outcome you want without calling out race. Much like gerrymandering.

And the school board rammed the changes through during the lockdown period without community feedbacks. They knew they had to do it in a shady way because they knew they were doing something shady.

There were numerous public work sessions and comment periods relating to these changes. Your statement is factually inaccurate.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post the link to these "TJ Papers?"

Here’s an earlier thread with a link. The conduct of the School Board was embarrassing: even if you didn’t conclude some were anti-Asian and racist, you might still conclude they were unprincipled and deeply incompetent. The only way these people could ever be re-elected is if there are enough people who just blindly vote for candidates endorsed by the Democrats (in which case they fully deserve four more years of FCPS decline):

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1028206.page

I agree the board acted deplorably; nevertheless, with a 59% share of TJ seats I can't take these claims seriously.

Ok. Don’t take them seriously. I don’t think anyone is appealing to you in any case.

The rational majority will speak when the next elections happen.

I suspect that you are going to be sorely disappointed. I would vote for a moderate Republican but the Republicans that end up running are anything but Moderate and will not receive the votes of the majority of the people in this region.

That said, the school board behaved poorly.

And I don’t have a problem with the changes as they stand. I think that guaranteeing seats to every MS is a good call. I prefer using metrics that every student can meet, ie classes and grades from MS and not extra curricular activities that not all kids have access to is fine. I do wish they would increase the GPA to 3.75, include all classes and not just the core classes, and require kids have Geometry before completing 8th grade.

The reality is that increasing the number of URM is going to decrease the number of Asian kids at TJ because the Asian kids are highly overrepresented at TJ.

Maybe they should also increase the number of Sophmores and Juniors who are allowed to transfer into TJ. Perhaps a summer class to make up for whatever it was that they missed would be required?

It’s despicable to say Asian kids are over-represented at TJ. It’s no different than saying Jewish people are over-represented at the Treasury Department. You are disgusting and should be ashamed of yourself.

And if any group is over-representatives it’s women on the School Board and hopefully many will be removed soon.

It's not despicable. It's basic mathematics. Over-represented is not a value judgment.

College educated people are over represented in federal jobs. We should do something about it. Not everyone has the ability or desire to go to college. Penalizing them would be inequitable.

Coalition-aligned folks major in drawing comparisons where there are none.

Jobs are not the same as educational opportunities. Nor are places on sports teams.

True but the coalition folks aren't very bright and just don't care about anything beyond their own interests.

Yes, the coalition folks are pretty awful. They want an admission policy that allows them to buy entry.

Actually the reformers are pork barrel politicians who want racial quotas - it is pretty obvious from the gerrymandering of the TJ admissions process. Twist and turn the admissions process so that you can get the outcome you want without calling out race. Much like gerrymandering.

And the school board rammed the changes through during the lockdown period without community feedbacks. They knew they had to do it in a shady way because they knew they were doing something shady.

There were numerous public work sessions and comment periods relating to these changes. Your statement is factually inaccurate.

Stop trying to ruin my conspiracy narrative with these inconvenient facts!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post the link to these "TJ Papers?"

Here’s an earlier thread with a link. The conduct of the School Board was embarrassing: even if you didn’t conclude some were anti-Asian and racist, you might still conclude they were unprincipled and deeply incompetent. The only way these people could ever be re-elected is if there are enough people who just blindly vote for candidates endorsed by the Democrats (in which case they fully deserve four more years of FCPS decline):

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1028206.page

I agree the board acted deplorably; nevertheless, with a 59% share of TJ seats I can't take these claims seriously.

Ok. Don’t take them seriously. I don’t think anyone is appealing to you in any case.

The rational majority will speak when the next elections happen.

I suspect that you are going to be sorely disappointed. I would vote for a moderate Republican but the Republicans that end up running are anything but Moderate and will not receive the votes of the majority of the people in this region.

That said, the school board behaved poorly.

And I don’t have a problem with the changes as they stand. I think that guaranteeing seats to every MS is a good call. I prefer using metrics that every student can meet, ie classes and grades from MS and not extra curricular activities that not all kids have access to is fine. I do wish they would increase the GPA to 3.75, include all classes and not just the core classes, and require kids have Geometry before completing 8th grade.

The reality is that increasing the number of URM is going to decrease the number of Asian kids at TJ because the Asian kids are highly overrepresented at TJ.

Maybe they should also increase the number of Sophmores and Juniors who are allowed to transfer into TJ. Perhaps a summer class to make up for whatever it was that they missed would be required?

It’s despicable to say Asian kids are over-represented at TJ. It’s no different than saying Jewish people are over-represented at the Treasury Department. You are disgusting and should be ashamed of yourself.

And if any group is over-representatives it’s women on the School Board and hopefully many will be removed soon.

It's not despicable. It's basic mathematics. Over-represented is not a value judgment.

College educated people are over represented in federal jobs. We should do something about it. Not everyone has the ability or desire to go to college. Penalizing them would be inequitable.

Coalition-aligned folks major in drawing comparisons where there are none.

Jobs are not the same as educational opportunities. Nor are places on sports teams.

True but the coalition folks aren't very bright and just don't care about anything beyond their own interests.

Yes, the coalition folks are pretty awful. They want an admission policy that allows them to buy entry.

Actually the reformers are pork barrel politicians who want racial quotas - it is pretty obvious from the gerrymandering of the TJ admissions process. Twist and turn the admissions process so that you can get the outcome you want without calling out race. Much like gerrymandering.

You used the word gerrymandering here - it doesn't mean what you think it does.

Go back to school.

ger·ry·man·der

manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class.
achieve (a result) by manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency.
"a total freedom to gerrymander the results they want"

In this context it means manipulating the process to get the outcome you want. Time-tested by pork barrel politicians including the ones in Fairfax.

And if you dont get it, you dont get it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can we re-label this thread as “so called adults, fighting over nothing..while their kids are just fine, enjoying HS”

Yes, sure, the changes doubled the number of URM and gave many low-income students opportunities that they were previously denied, but overall it's had little to no impact on anything. I read this thread as a few parents jockeying for an advantage at the expense of the public.

If you believe in entitlement to dole then you resent anyone that works hard. Nobody is asking for anything "at the expense of the public". The ask is to have a process that gives everyone an equal opportunity to public goods. The argument that "overrepresentation" of Asians is solely due to unfair advantages arising from cheating is not just dubious but nefarious.

Just because the new process doubled the URMs does not make the process fair. The end does not justify the means. Or else we can all dispense street justice.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post the link to these "TJ Papers?"

Here’s an earlier thread with a link. The conduct of the School Board was embarrassing: even if you didn’t conclude some were anti-Asian and racist, you might still conclude they were unprincipled and deeply incompetent. The only way these people could ever be re-elected is if there are enough people who just blindly vote for candidates endorsed by the Democrats (in which case they fully deserve four more years of FCPS decline):

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1028206.page

I agree the board acted deplorably; nevertheless, with a 59% share of TJ seats I can't take these claims seriously.

Ok. Don’t take them seriously. I don’t think anyone is appealing to you in any case.

The rational majority will speak when the next elections happen.

I suspect that you are going to be sorely disappointed. I would vote for a moderate Republican but the Republicans that end up running are anything but Moderate and will not receive the votes of the majority of the people in this region.

That said, the school board behaved poorly.

And I don’t have a problem with the changes as they stand. I think that guaranteeing seats to every MS is a good call. I prefer using metrics that every student can meet, ie classes and grades from MS and not extra curricular activities that not all kids have access to is fine. I do wish they would increase the GPA to 3.75, include all classes and not just the core classes, and require kids have Geometry before completing 8th grade.

The reality is that increasing the number of URM is going to decrease the number of Asian kids at TJ because the Asian kids are highly overrepresented at TJ.

Maybe they should also increase the number of Sophmores and Juniors who are allowed to transfer into TJ. Perhaps a summer class to make up for whatever it was that they missed would be required?

It’s despicable to say Asian kids are over-represented at TJ. It’s no different than saying Jewish people are over-represented at the Treasury Department. You are disgusting and should be ashamed of yourself.

And if any group is over-representatives it’s women on the School Board and hopefully many will be removed soon.

It's not despicable. It's basic mathematics. Over-represented is not a value judgment.

College educated people are over represented in federal jobs. We should do something about it. Not everyone has the ability or desire to go to college. Penalizing them would be inequitable.

Coalition-aligned folks major in drawing comparisons where there are none.

Jobs are not the same as educational opportunities. Nor are places on sports teams.

True but the coalition folks aren't very bright and just don't care about anything beyond their own interests.

Yes, the coalition folks are pretty awful. They want an admission policy that allows them to buy entry.

Actually the reformers are pork barrel politicians who want racial quotas - it is pretty obvious from the gerrymandering of the TJ admissions process. Twist and turn the admissions process so that you can get the outcome you want without calling out race. Much like gerrymandering.

And the school board rammed the changes through during the lockdown period without community feedbacks. They knew they had to do it in a shady way because they knew they were doing something shady.

There were numerous public work sessions and comment periods relating to these changes. Your statement is factually inaccurate.

Stop trying to ruin my conspiracy narrative with these inconvenient facts!

Spoken like a true Trump acolyte. Kellyanne can provide you with alternate facts that suit your narrative

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post the link to these "TJ Papers?"

Here’s an earlier thread with a link. The conduct of the School Board was embarrassing: even if you didn’t conclude some were anti-Asian and racist, you might still conclude they were unprincipled and deeply incompetent. The only way these people could ever be re-elected is if there are enough people who just blindly vote for candidates endorsed by the Democrats (in which case they fully deserve four more years of FCPS decline):

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1028206.page

I agree the board acted deplorably; nevertheless, with a 59% share of TJ seats I can't take these claims seriously.

Ok. Don’t take them seriously. I don’t think anyone is appealing to you in any case.

The rational majority will speak when the next elections happen.

I suspect that you are going to be sorely disappointed. I would vote for a moderate Republican but the Republicans that end up running are anything but Moderate and will not receive the votes of the majority of the people in this region.

That said, the school board behaved poorly.

And I don’t have a problem with the changes as they stand. I think that guaranteeing seats to every MS is a good call. I prefer using metrics that every student can meet, ie classes and grades from MS and not extra curricular activities that not all kids have access to is fine. I do wish they would increase the GPA to 3.75, include all classes and not just the core classes, and require kids have Geometry before completing 8th grade.

The reality is that increasing the number of URM is going to decrease the number of Asian kids at TJ because the Asian kids are highly overrepresented at TJ.

Maybe they should also increase the number of Sophmores and Juniors who are allowed to transfer into TJ. Perhaps a summer class to make up for whatever it was that they missed would be required?

It’s despicable to say Asian kids are over-represented at TJ. It’s no different than saying Jewish people are over-represented at the Treasury Department. You are disgusting and should be ashamed of yourself.

And if any group is over-representatives it’s women on the School Board and hopefully many will be removed soon.

It's not despicable. It's basic mathematics. Over-represented is not a value judgment.

College educated people are over represented in federal jobs. We should do something about it. Not everyone has the ability or desire to go to college. Penalizing them would be inequitable.

Coalition-aligned folks major in drawing comparisons where there are none.

Jobs are not the same as educational opportunities. Nor are places on sports teams.

True but the coalition folks aren't very bright and just don't care about anything beyond their own interests.

Yes, the coalition folks are pretty awful. They want an admission policy that allows them to buy entry.

Actually the reformers are pork barrel politicians who want racial quotas - it is pretty obvious from the gerrymandering of the TJ admissions process. Twist and turn the admissions process so that you can get the outcome you want without calling out race. Much like gerrymandering.

You used the word gerrymandering here - it doesn't mean what you think it does.

Go back to school.

ger·ry·man·der

manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class.
achieve (a result) by manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency.
"a total freedom to gerrymander the results they want"

In this context it means manipulating the process to get the outcome you want. Time-tested by pork barrel politicians including the ones in Fairfax.

And if you dont get it, you dont get it.

I see! The old system was a gerrymander because it allowed one group a big advantage over others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post the link to these "TJ Papers?"

Here’s an earlier thread with a link. The conduct of the School Board was embarrassing: even if you didn’t conclude some were anti-Asian and racist, you might still conclude they were unprincipled and deeply incompetent. The only way these people could ever be re-elected is if there are enough people who just blindly vote for candidates endorsed by the Democrats (in which case they fully deserve four more years of FCPS decline):

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1028206.page

I agree the board acted deplorably; nevertheless, with a 59% share of TJ seats I can't take these claims seriously.

Ok. Don’t take them seriously. I don’t think anyone is appealing to you in any case.

The rational majority will speak when the next elections happen.

I suspect that you are going to be sorely disappointed. I would vote for a moderate Republican but the Republicans that end up running are anything but Moderate and will not receive the votes of the majority of the people in this region.

That said, the school board behaved poorly.

And I don’t have a problem with the changes as they stand. I think that guaranteeing seats to every MS is a good call. I prefer using metrics that every student can meet, ie classes and grades from MS and not extra curricular activities that not all kids have access to is fine. I do wish they would increase the GPA to 3.75, include all classes and not just the core classes, and require kids have Geometry before completing 8th grade.

The reality is that increasing the number of URM is going to decrease the number of Asian kids at TJ because the Asian kids are highly overrepresented at TJ.

Maybe they should also increase the number of Sophmores and Juniors who are allowed to transfer into TJ. Perhaps a summer class to make up for whatever it was that they missed would be required?

It’s despicable to say Asian kids are over-represented at TJ. It’s no different than saying Jewish people are over-represented at the Treasury Department. You are disgusting and should be ashamed of yourself.

And if any group is over-representatives it’s women on the School Board and hopefully many will be removed soon.

It's not despicable. It's basic mathematics. Over-represented is not a value judgment.

College educated people are over represented in federal jobs. We should do something about it. Not everyone has the ability or desire to go to college. Penalizing them would be inequitable.

Coalition-aligned folks major in drawing comparisons where there are none.

Jobs are not the same as educational opportunities. Nor are places on sports teams.

True but the coalition folks aren't very bright and just don't care about anything beyond their own interests.

Yes, the coalition folks are pretty awful. They want an admission policy that allows them to buy entry.

Actually the reformers are pork barrel politicians who want racial quotas - it is pretty obvious from the gerrymandering of the TJ admissions process. Twist and turn the admissions process so that you can get the outcome you want without calling out race. Much like gerrymandering.

You used the word gerrymandering here - it doesn't mean what you think it does.

Go back to school.

ger·ry·man·der

manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class.
achieve (a result) by manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency.
"a total freedom to gerrymander the results they want"

In this context it means manipulating the process to get the outcome you want. Time-tested by pork barrel politicians including the ones in Fairfax.

And if you dont get it, you dont get it.

I see! The old system was a gerrymander because it allowed one group a big advantage over others.

if you dont get it, you dont get it.

[Anonymous]

People can argue whether the admissions changes are analogous to gerrymandered boundaries, but it's indisputable that (1) the process was changed with the goal of producing a particular outcome (whether it's succeeding at that is a different question) and (2) the process left many Asian families feeling hurt and deeply disrespected by FCPS.

The issue on the ballot next fall when the School Board comes up for re-election isn't going to be whether they engaged in gerrymandering, so much as whether they've lost the trust of families over the past four years (due to their actions on TJ and their actions or inaction on other topics) and deserve to be booted out of office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People can argue whether the admissions changes are analogous to gerrymandered boundaries, but it's indisputable that (1) the process was changed with the goal of producing a particular outcome (whether it's succeeding at that is a different question) and (2) the process left many Asian families feeling hurt and deeply disrespected by FCPS.

The issue on the ballot next fall when the School Board comes up for re-election isn't going to be whether they engaged in gerrymandering, so much as whether they've lost the trust of families over the past four years (due to their actions on TJ and their actions or inaction on other topics) and deserve to be booted out of office.

You mean Asians are overrepresented because they pay to play? Their success is solely due to their patronizing prep schools - they have all paid 20K to Curie - and you think their kids are bright? The Reformers will help Asian parents raise wholesome kids - you know different from the socially awkward Asian geeks you see on TV. Come on the School Board is helping you Asians. And you are upset? How unAmerican!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post the link to these "TJ Papers?"

Here’s an earlier thread with a link. The conduct of the School Board was embarrassing: even if you didn’t conclude some were anti-Asian and racist, you might still conclude they were unprincipled and deeply incompetent. The only way these people could ever be re-elected is if there are enough people who just blindly vote for candidates endorsed by the Democrats (in which case they fully deserve four more years of FCPS decline):

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1028206.page

I agree the board acted deplorably; nevertheless, with a 59% share of TJ seats I can't take these claims seriously.

Ok. Don’t take them seriously. I don’t think anyone is appealing to you in any case.

The rational majority will speak when the next elections happen.

I suspect that you are going to be sorely disappointed. I would vote for a moderate Republican but the Republicans that end up running are anything but Moderate and will not receive the votes of the majority of the people in this region.

That said, the school board behaved poorly.

And I don’t have a problem with the changes as they stand. I think that guaranteeing seats to every MS is a good call. I prefer using metrics that every student can meet, ie classes and grades from MS and not extra curricular activities that not all kids have access to is fine. I do wish they would increase the GPA to 3.75, include all classes and not just the core classes, and require kids have Geometry before completing 8th grade.

The reality is that increasing the number of URM is going to decrease the number of Asian kids at TJ because the Asian kids are highly overrepresented at TJ.

Maybe they should also increase the number of Sophmores and Juniors who are allowed to transfer into TJ. Perhaps a summer class to make up for whatever it was that they missed would be required?

It’s despicable to say Asian kids are over-represented at TJ. It’s no different than saying Jewish people are over-represented at the Treasury Department. You are disgusting and should be ashamed of yourself.

And if any group is over-representatives it’s women on the School Board and hopefully many will be removed soon.

It's not despicable. It's basic mathematics. Over-represented is not a value judgment.

College educated people are over represented in federal jobs. We should do something about it. Not everyone has the ability or desire to go to college. Penalizing them would be inequitable.

Coalition-aligned folks major in drawing comparisons where there are none.

Jobs are not the same as educational opportunities. Nor are places on sports teams.

True but the coalition folks aren't very bright and just don't care about anything beyond their own interests.

Yes, the coalition folks are pretty awful. They want an admission policy that allows them to buy entry.

Actually the reformers are pork barrel politicians who want racial quotas - it is pretty obvious from the gerrymandering of the TJ admissions process. Twist and turn the admissions process so that you can get the outcome you want without calling out race. Much like gerrymandering.

You used the word gerrymandering here - it doesn't mean what you think it does.

Go back to school.

ger·ry·man·der

manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class.
achieve (a result) by manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency.
"a total freedom to gerrymander the results they want"

In this context it means manipulating the process to get the outcome you want. Time-tested by pork barrel politicians including the ones in Fairfax.

And if you dont get it, you dont get it.

I see! The old system was a gerrymander because it allowed one group a big advantage over others.

if you dont get it, you dont get it.

and sadly you don't get it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post the link to these "TJ Papers?"

Here’s an earlier thread with a link. The conduct of the School Board was embarrassing: even if you didn’t conclude some were anti-Asian and racist, you might still conclude they were unprincipled and deeply incompetent. The only way these people could ever be re-elected is if there are enough people who just blindly vote for candidates endorsed by the Democrats (in which case they fully deserve four more years of FCPS decline):

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1028206.page

I agree the board acted deplorably; nevertheless, with a 59% share of TJ seats I can't take these claims seriously.

Ok. Don’t take them seriously. I don’t think anyone is appealing to you in any case.

The rational majority will speak when the next elections happen.

I suspect that you are going to be sorely disappointed. I would vote for a moderate Republican but the Republicans that end up running are anything but Moderate and will not receive the votes of the majority of the people in this region.

That said, the school board behaved poorly.

And I don’t have a problem with the changes as they stand. I think that guaranteeing seats to every MS is a good call. I prefer using metrics that every student can meet, ie classes and grades from MS and not extra curricular activities that not all kids have access to is fine. I do wish they would increase the GPA to 3.75, include all classes and not just the core classes, and require kids have Geometry before completing 8th grade.

The reality is that increasing the number of URM is going to decrease the number of Asian kids at TJ because the Asian kids are highly overrepresented at TJ.

Maybe they should also increase the number of Sophmores and Juniors who are allowed to transfer into TJ. Perhaps a summer class to make up for whatever it was that they missed would be required?

It’s despicable to say Asian kids are over-represented at TJ. It’s no different than saying Jewish people are over-represented at the Treasury Department. You are disgusting and should be ashamed of yourself.

And if any group is over-representatives it’s women on the School Board and hopefully many will be removed soon.

It's not despicable. It's basic mathematics. Over-represented is not a value judgment.

College educated people are over represented in federal jobs. We should do something about it. Not everyone has the ability or desire to go to college. Penalizing them would be inequitable.

Coalition-aligned folks major in drawing comparisons where there are none.

Jobs are not the same as educational opportunities. Nor are places on sports teams.

True but the coalition folks aren't very bright and just don't care about anything beyond their own interests.

Yes, the coalition folks are pretty awful. They want an admission policy that allows them to buy entry.

Actually the reformers are pork barrel politicians who want racial quotas - it is pretty obvious from the gerrymandering of the TJ admissions process. Twist and turn the admissions process so that you can get the outcome you want without calling out race. Much like gerrymandering.

You used the word gerrymandering here - it doesn't mean what you think it does.

Go back to school.

ger·ry·man·der

manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class.
achieve (a result) by manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency.
"a total freedom to gerrymander the results they want"

In this context it means manipulating the process to get the outcome you want. Time-tested by pork barrel politicians including the ones in Fairfax.

And if you dont get it, you dont get it.

I see! The old system was a gerrymander because it allowed one group a big advantage over others.

Exactly!

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post the link to these "TJ Papers?"

Here’s an earlier thread with a link. The conduct of the School Board was embarrassing: even if you didn’t conclude some were anti-Asian and racist, you might still conclude they were unprincipled and deeply incompetent. The only way these people could ever be re-elected is if there are enough people who just blindly vote for candidates endorsed by the Democrats (in which case they fully deserve four more years of FCPS decline):

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1028206.page

I agree the board acted deplorably; nevertheless, with a 59% share of TJ seats I can't take these claims seriously.

Ok. Don’t take them seriously. I don’t think anyone is appealing to you in any case.

The rational majority will speak when the next elections happen.

I suspect that you are going to be sorely disappointed. I would vote for a moderate Republican but the Republicans that end up running are anything but Moderate and will not receive the votes of the majority of the people in this region.

That said, the school board behaved poorly.

And I don’t have a problem with the changes as they stand. I think that guaranteeing seats to every MS is a good call. I prefer using metrics that every student can meet, ie classes and grades from MS and not extra curricular activities that not all kids have access to is fine. I do wish they would increase the GPA to 3.75, include all classes and not just the core classes, and require kids have Geometry before completing 8th grade.

The reality is that increasing the number of URM is going to decrease the number of Asian kids at TJ because the Asian kids are highly overrepresented at TJ.

Maybe they should also increase the number of Sophmores and Juniors who are allowed to transfer into TJ. Perhaps a summer class to make up for whatever it was that they missed would be required?

It’s despicable to say Asian kids are over-represented at TJ. It’s no different than saying Jewish people are over-represented at the Treasury Department. You are disgusting and should be ashamed of yourself.

And if any group is over-representatives it’s women on the School Board and hopefully many will be removed soon.

It's not despicable. It's basic mathematics. Over-represented is not a value judgment.

College educated people are over represented in federal jobs. We should do something about it. Not everyone has the ability or desire to go to college. Penalizing them would be inequitable.

Coalition-aligned folks major in drawing comparisons where there are none.

Jobs are not the same as educational opportunities. Nor are places on sports teams.

True but the coalition folks aren't very bright and just don't care about anything beyond their own interests.

Yes, the coalition folks are pretty awful. They want an admission policy that allows them to buy entry.

Actually the reformers are pork barrel politicians who want racial quotas - it is pretty obvious from the gerrymandering of the TJ admissions process. Twist and turn the admissions process so that you can get the outcome you want without calling out race. Much like gerrymandering.

You used the word gerrymandering here - it doesn't mean what you think it does.

Go back to school.

ger·ry·man·der

manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class.
achieve (a result) by manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency.
"a total freedom to gerrymander the results they want"

In this context it means manipulating the process to get the outcome you want. Time-tested by pork barrel politicians including the ones in Fairfax.

And if you dont get it, you dont get it.

I see! The old system was a gerrymander because it allowed one group a big advantage over others.

if you dont get it, you dont get it.

BINGO. She does not.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post the link to these "TJ Papers?"

Here’s an earlier thread with a link. The conduct of the School Board was embarrassing: even if you didn’t conclude some were anti-Asian and racist, you might still conclude they were unprincipled and deeply incompetent. The only way these people could ever be re-elected is if there are enough people who just blindly vote for candidates endorsed by the Democrats (in which case they fully deserve four more years of FCPS decline):

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1028206.page

I agree the board acted deplorably; nevertheless, with a 59% share of TJ seats I can't take these claims seriously.

Ok. Don’t take them seriously. I don’t think anyone is appealing to you in any case.

The rational majority will speak when the next elections happen.

I suspect that you are going to be sorely disappointed. I would vote for a moderate Republican but the Republicans that end up running are anything but Moderate and will not receive the votes of the majority of the people in this region.

That said, the school board behaved poorly.

And I don’t have a problem with the changes as they stand. I think that guaranteeing seats to every MS is a good call. I prefer using metrics that every student can meet, ie classes and grades from MS and not extra curricular activities that not all kids have access to is fine. I do wish they would increase the GPA to 3.75, include all classes and not just the core classes, and require kids have Geometry before completing 8th grade.

The reality is that increasing the number of URM is going to decrease the number of Asian kids at TJ because the Asian kids are highly overrepresented at TJ.

Maybe they should also increase the number of Sophmores and Juniors who are allowed to transfer into TJ. Perhaps a summer class to make up for whatever it was that they missed would be required?

It’s despicable to say Asian kids are over-represented at TJ. It’s no different than saying Jewish people are over-represented at the Treasury Department. You are disgusting and should be ashamed of yourself.

And if any group is over-representatives it’s women on the School Board and hopefully many will be removed soon.

It's not despicable. It's basic mathematics. Over-represented is not a value judgment.

College educated people are over represented in federal jobs. We should do something about it. Not everyone has the ability or desire to go to college. Penalizing them would be inequitable.

Coalition-aligned folks major in drawing comparisons where there are none.

Jobs are not the same as educational opportunities. Nor are places on sports teams.

True but the coalition folks aren't very bright and just don't care about anything beyond their own interests.

Yes, the coalition folks are pretty awful. They want an admission policy that allows them to buy entry.

Actually the reformers are pork barrel politicians who want racial quotas - it is pretty obvious from the gerrymandering of the TJ admissions process. Twist and turn the admissions process so that you can get the outcome you want without calling out race. Much like gerrymandering.

You used the word gerrymandering here - it doesn't mean what you think it does.

Go back to school.

ger·ry·man·der

manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class.
achieve (a result) by manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency.
"a total freedom to gerrymander the results they want"

In this context it means manipulating the process to get the outcome you want. Time-tested by pork barrel politicians including the ones in Fairfax.

And if you dont get it, you dont get it.

I see! The old system was a gerrymander because it allowed one group a big advantage over others.

Exactly!

I guess the last School Board elections were gerrymandered since we ended up with 11 women and 12 Democrats on a 12-person board. Two groups have a big advantage over others. Clearly that’s inequitable and needs to change.

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