Half of British women reach age 30 without having a child

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New statesman, a British left magazine had this to recent say on this topi:

https://www.newstatesman.com/social-media/2022/02/the-mystery-isnt-why-the-birth-rate-is-falling-its-why-anyone-has-kids-at-all

“The mystery isn’t why births are falling but why anyone has kids at all”

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why scare quotes were used for "shacking up"? It is when you move in with a man you're not married to. It became extremely common in the last couple of decades, including multiple times on Sex and the City. And then women wonder why 'peter pan' men won't commit—why buy the cow when you get the milk for free.

— Dr Laura Schlessinger

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Anonymous wrote:Also she brags about her 21 year old daughter who married a med student. So old school. I would rather that my daughter was the doctor, not the doctors wife.

+100

Didn't gen X nana say her oldest daughter was an RN or a teacher? Hardly an insignificant career, with both requiring a master's degree and offering great pay vis a vis work-life balance, plus great health care and fringe benefits. You jaded spinsters – and don't deny that you're not, you're fooling no one – are twisting everything to paint her as low class white trash, with a barefoot and pregnant SAHM 20-something daughter and some budding MD son in law who of course cheats on her with classmates and will divorce her to marry some surgeon or lawyer. Your cynicism suggests you're deeply unhappy.

NP. If there’s a fool proof way to know which husbands will not cheat or which ones will not divorce you once they are in their 50’s and 60’s, let us know. This has nothing to do with cynicism and everything to do with reality.

So all of us can see the divorce coming for SAHM daughter married to budding MD except brunch granny. I actually feel bad for the daughter but brunch granny seems well off enough to support the daughter and children when hot catch MD leaves for a partner and peer. I also hope there was a pre-nup so the daughter has some way to support the kids.

My HS friend had this happen to her, down to the husband in med school leaving her for a classmate. Divorced at 30 with FIVE kids. She's always on FB ranting about how there are no good men out there that want to date her and she has no idea why.

Is her H an ER doctor and does she have 2 adopted and then triplets? If so, she's my neighbor.

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Anonymous wrote:New statesman, a British left magazine had this to recent say on this topi:

https://www.newstatesman.com/social-media/2022/02/the-mystery-isnt-why-the-birth-rate-is-falling-its-why-anyone-has-kids-at-all

“The mystery isn’t why births are falling but why anyone has kids at all”

Lol truth!

Why did I have 3 kids again? Ah….I love ‘em.

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Anonymous wrote:Careerism is a fake excuse for delaying kids. Two young women in our office are 26 and 28, make a little over $100,000 a year, and just took 6 months paid maternity leave. Their career isn't going to be hurt what so ever.

In some careers, like mine, it's hard to work 60-80 hours with a baby. Why would you assume all jobs are like those in your office?

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Israeli data is out.

First time in thirty years it has fallen

https://www.jns.org/israeli-birth-rate-on-decline-government-data-shows/

But Jewish fertility rate surpasses Muslim fertility rate for the first time.

Só, policy makers in Israel will be thrilled

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Anonymous wrote:Also she brags about her 21 year old daughter who married a med student. So old school. I would rather that my daughter was the doctor, not the doctors wife.

+100

Didn't gen X nana say her oldest daughter was an RN or a teacher? Hardly an insignificant career, with both requiring a master's degree and offering great pay vis a vis work-life balance, plus great health care and fringe benefits. You jaded spinsters – and don't deny that you're not, you're fooling no one – are twisting everything to paint her as low class white trash, with a barefoot and pregnant SAHM 20-something daughter and some budding MD son in law who of course cheats on her with classmates and will divorce her to marry some surgeon or lawyer. Your cynicism suggests you're deeply unhappy.

NP. If there’s a fool proof way to know which husbands will not cheat or which ones will not divorce you once they are in their 50’s and 60’s, let us know. This has nothing to do with cynicism and everything to do with reality.

So all of us can see the divorce coming for SAHM daughter married to budding MD except brunch granny. I actually feel bad for the daughter but brunch granny seems well off enough to support the daughter and children when hot catch MD leaves for a partner and peer. I also hope there was a pre-nup so the daughter has some way to support the kids.

My HS friend had this happen to her, down to the husband in med school leaving her for a classmate. Divorced at 30 with FIVE kids. She's always on FB ranting about how there are no good men out there that want to date her and she has no idea why.

Yeah but is she a nice person? Did she chase him away with her attitude? Is she 500 pounds and always complaining?

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Anonymous wrote:Also she brags about her 21 year old daughter who married a med student. So old school. I would rather that my daughter was the doctor, not the doctors wife.

+100

Didn't gen X nana say her oldest daughter was an RN or a teacher? Hardly an insignificant career, with both requiring a master's degree and offering great pay vis a vis work-life balance, plus great health care and fringe benefits. You jaded spinsters – and don't deny that you're not, you're fooling no one – are twisting everything to paint her as low class white trash, with a barefoot and pregnant SAHM 20-something daughter and some budding MD son in law who of course cheats on her with classmates and will divorce her to marry some surgeon or lawyer. Your cynicism suggests you're deeply unhappy.

NP. If there’s a fool proof way to know which husbands will not cheat or which ones will not divorce you once they are in their 50’s and 60’s, let us know. This has nothing to do with cynicism and everything to do with reality.

So all of us can see the divorce coming for SAHM daughter married to budding MD except brunch granny. I actually feel bad for the daughter but brunch granny seems well off enough to support the daughter and children when hot catch MD leaves for a partner and peer. I also hope there was a pre-nup so the daughter has some way to support the kids.

My HS friend had this happen to her, down to the husband in med school leaving her for a classmate. Divorced at 30 with FIVE kids. She's always on FB ranting about how there are no good men out there that want to date her and she has no idea why.

Is her H an ER doctor and does she have 2 adopted and then triplets? If so, she's my neighbor.

Her husband IS an ER Doctor, but no, not the same person. All 5 kids are biological singletons.

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Anonymous wrote:Also she brags about her 21 year old daughter who married a med student. So old school. I would rather that my daughter was the doctor, not the doctors wife.

+100

Didn't gen X nana say her oldest daughter was an RN or a teacher? Hardly an insignificant career, with both requiring a master's degree and offering great pay vis a vis work-life balance, plus great health care and fringe benefits. You jaded spinsters – and don't deny that you're not, you're fooling no one – are twisting everything to paint her as low class white trash, with a barefoot and pregnant SAHM 20-something daughter and some budding MD son in law who of course cheats on her with classmates and will divorce her to marry some surgeon or lawyer. Your cynicism suggests you're deeply unhappy.

NP. If there’s a fool proof way to know which husbands will not cheat or which ones will not divorce you once they are in their 50’s and 60’s, let us know. This has nothing to do with cynicism and everything to do with reality.

So all of us can see the divorce coming for SAHM daughter married to budding MD except brunch granny. I actually feel bad for the daughter but brunch granny seems well off enough to support the daughter and children when hot catch MD leaves for a partner and peer. I also hope there was a pre-nup so the daughter has some way to support the kids.

My HS friend had this happen to her, down to the husband in med school leaving her for a classmate. Divorced at 30 with FIVE kids. She's always on FB ranting about how there are no good men out there that want to date her and she has no idea why.

Yeah but is she a nice person? Did she chase him away with her attitude? Is she 500 pounds and always complaining?

She is nice and pretty fit, especially after 5 kids and now back in the dating world. I think being at home pumping out that many kids in a short period of time while he was in residency just drove home the difference between their spheres and made her seem very boring, like they had nothing to talk about that wasn't the kids. I think she'll be ok (though should probably not be expecting childless men in their 30s to be interested) she made a man the plan once, hopefully it works out with another guy.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why scare quotes were used for "shacking up"? It is when you move in with a man you're not married to. It became extremely common in the last couple of decades, including multiple times on Sex and the City. And then women wonder why 'peter pan' men won't commit—why buy the cow when you get the milk for free.

Moo! My husband is asleep but I kinda wanna wake him and ask why he bought the cow. He got alllll the milk like 3 days after meeting. And we lived together for 5 years before getting married. I even bought a house with him without even being engaged. Why’d he propose? He coulda been getting it for free this whole time - no ring! I love him, I would not have bailed.

Come to think of it, I have only one friend who did not cohabit before marriage, and it was because her family are religious Muslims. So many cows and apparently plenty of takers.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/jan/27/women-child-free-30-ons

More than half (50.1%) of women in England and Wales born in 1990 were without a child when they turned 30 in 2020, the first generation to do so, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).
That is almost three times higher than the lowest number of women ever to be child-free at 30 – 17.9% of those born in 1941.
At the same time the average number of children women have by the time they reach 30 has fallen to its lowest-ever level (0.96).

Hook-up culture and shack-up female careerists are eliminating themselves from the gene pool. While women who prioritize monogamy, building a family, and having children in their 20s will have heritable traits that also incline their children to also prioritize families over consumerism, traveling, shopping, juggling boyfriends in your 20s. And the girl bosses will never admit they're wrong because misery loves company.

I’m glad these women exist to be brood mares and breed a generation of maids and service workers for my kids.

Old eggs don't typically produce healthy strong children. You can see this same phenom in mothers with lots of children, who started in their 20s and continued in their 30s. Often the last one or two children are smaller, less intelligent, and/or have some health issue(s).

That’s great. We need able bodied, strong people to be our future underclass.

When the revolution comes, the underclass will become the ruling class

LOL, the revolution isn’t coming. The pigs are too mired in their own sh!t.

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Anonymous wrote:Careerism is a fake excuse for delaying kids. Two young women in our office are 26 and 28, make a little over $100,000 a year, and just took 6 months paid maternity leave. Their career isn't going to be hurt what so ever.

In some careers, like mine, it's hard to work 60-80 hours with a baby. Why would you assume all jobs are like those in your office?

I need to work in your field! I very begrudgingly got 8 weeks UNPAID and I have an advanced degree. I've never made 100k either....

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why scare quotes were used for "shacking up"? It is when you move in with a man you're not married to. It became extremely common in the last couple of decades, including multiple times on Sex and the City. And then women wonder why 'peter pan' men won't commit—why buy the cow when you get the milk for free.

Living together now, and spending the rest of your lives together, are two separate decisions. Doing the first doesn’t guarantee someone will make that 2nd decision. Although in my own case, we did marry after living together. A lot of people do.

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Anonymous wrote:Also she brags about her 21 year old daughter who married a med student. So old school. I would rather that my daughter was the doctor, not the doctors wife.

+100

Didn't gen X nana say her oldest daughter was an RN or a teacher? Hardly an insignificant career, with both requiring a master's degree and offering great pay vis a vis work-life balance, plus great health care and fringe benefits. You jaded spinsters – and don't deny that you're not, you're fooling no one – are twisting everything to paint her as low class white trash, with a barefoot and pregnant SAHM 20-something daughter and some budding MD son in law who of course cheats on her with classmates and will divorce her to marry some surgeon or lawyer. Your cynicism suggests you're deeply unhappy.

NP. If there’s a fool proof way to know which husbands will not cheat or which ones will not divorce you once they are in their 50’s and 60’s, let us know. This has nothing to do with cynicism and everything to do with reality.

So all of us can see the divorce coming for SAHM daughter married to budding MD except brunch granny. I actually feel bad for the daughter but brunch granny seems well off enough to support the daughter and children when hot catch MD leaves for a partner and peer. I also hope there was a pre-nup so the daughter has some way to support the kids.

My HS friend had this happen to her, down to the husband in med school leaving her for a classmate. Divorced at 30 with FIVE kids. She's always on FB ranting about how there are no good men out there that want to date her and she has no idea why.

Yeah but is she a nice person? Did she chase him away with her attitude? Is she 500 pounds and always complaining?

Of course it's her fault for the divorce, isn't it? My neighbor, the ER doctor, cheated on her and left his mistress, now wife no. 2, pregnant. Which is obviously also his first wife's fault too. He lives to 8 kids (5 his, 2 hers, and 1 theirs) and he's miserable.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why scare quotes were used for "shacking up"? It is when you move in with a man you're not married to. It became extremely common in the last couple of decades, including multiple times on Sex and the City. And then women wonder why 'peter pan' men won't commit—why buy the cow when you get the milk for free.

— Dr Laura Schlessinger

The one who slept with a married man for years until he finally left his wife and 3 kids? Lol