How did Herndon/Westfield HS go from top to bottom?

[Anonymous]

It will never get built. FCPS is too dysfunctional and there's too much bickering to pull it off. APS desperately needed a fourth high school and couldn't get its act together either.

LCPS puts them both to shame when it comes to discipline in addressing facilities needs. No doubt it helps that there's not nearly as much difference among LCPS high schools in terms of academics or demographics.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounded like Hutchison is out for Plattenburg- said that a currently owned FCPS property has a surrounding park that gets so much community use for that area- that they would not be able to use that site.

Yep, sounds like they'll look for some vacant commercial building along Route 28 further south and probably retrofit it like Bailey's Upper in Seven Corners. I'm sure it will be great as long as it keeps Great Falls out of Herndon.

Plenty land in Great falls. The county can build a school there. Idk why we are looking in these locations where there isn’t enough property. Just doesn’t make sense.

And who is going to go to that?

The Bull Run area would make more sense than Great Falls if they actually did build a new school. I think it's a fiction. They've all but said Hutchison is DOA and trotting out the idea of retrofitting office buildings seems like a ploy to get people to object in advance.

Did you see the meeting- the ball is actually rolling on this... will it get to the finish line- tbd. It sounds like they have everyone on SB to be in favor of this-although some left some wiggle room.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounded like Hutchison is out for Plattenburg- said that a currently owned FCPS property has a surrounding park that gets so much community use for that area- that they would not be able to use that site.

Yep, sounds like they'll look for some vacant commercial building along Route 28 further south and probably retrofit it like Bailey's Upper in Seven Corners. I'm sure it will be great as long as it keeps Great Falls out of Herndon.

Plenty land in Great falls. The county can build a school there. Idk why we are looking in these locations where there isn’t enough property. Just doesn’t make sense.

And who is going to go to that?

The Bull Run area would make more sense than Great Falls if they actually did build a new school. I think it's a fiction. They've all but said Hutchison is DOA and trotting out the idea of retrofitting office buildings seems like a ploy to get people to object in advance.

Did you see the meeting- the ball is actually rolling on this... will it get to the finish line- tbd. It sounds like they have everyone on SB to be in favor of this-although some left some wiggle room.

Where is it exactly? Near Sully Highland Park?

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Anonymous wrote:Sounded like Hutchison is out for Plattenburg- said that a currently owned FCPS property has a surrounding park that gets so much community use for that area- that they would not be able to use that site.

Yep, sounds like they'll look for some vacant commercial building along Route 28 further south and probably retrofit it like Bailey's Upper in Seven Corners. I'm sure it will be great as long as it keeps Great Falls out of Herndon.

Plenty land in Great falls. The county can build a school there. Idk why we are looking in these locations where there isn’t enough property. Just doesn’t make sense.

And who is going to go to that?

The Bull Run area would make more sense than Great Falls if they actually did build a new school. I think it's a fiction. They've all but said Hutchison is DOA and trotting out the idea of retrofitting office buildings seems like a ploy to get people to object in advance.

Did you see the meeting- the ball is actually rolling on this... will it get to the finish line- tbd. It sounds like they have everyone on SB to be in favor of this-although some left some wiggle room.

It will be a bloodbath. This thread is just a preview of the fun to come.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounded like Hutchison is out for Plattenburg- said that a currently owned FCPS property has a surrounding park that gets so much community use for that area- that they would not be able to use that site.

Yep, sounds like they'll look for some vacant commercial building along Route 28 further south and probably retrofit it like Bailey's Upper in Seven Corners. I'm sure it will be great as long as it keeps Great Falls out of Herndon.

Plenty land in Great falls. The county can build a school there. Idk why we are looking in these locations where there isn’t enough property. Just doesn’t make sense.

And who is going to go to that?

The Bull Run area would make more sense than Great Falls if they actually did build a new school. I think it's a fiction. They've all but said Hutchison is DOA and trotting out the idea of retrofitting office buildings seems like a ploy to get people to object in advance.

Did you see the meeting- the ball is actually rolling on this... will it get to the finish line- tbd. It sounds like they have everyone on SB to be in favor of this-although some left some wiggle room.

It will be a bloodbath. This thread is just a preview of the fun to come.

Trust me. The bull run site would be much less controversial than the Hutchison site. The Hutchison site would be full of drama between the Great Falls parents who are allegic to any boundary change for Langley vs the liberal hacks who would love to change the socioeconomic demographics at Langley.

[Anonymous]

If they build at Bull Run they will be reassigning mostly Westfield and Centreville feeders to the new school. How do you see it helping Chantilly and Oakton?

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Anonymous wrote:They need to stop playing around and expand McLean.

Did MCA press her on this issue?

To get them on the new que I mean.

The McLean HS facilities are embarrassingly outdated. All the surrounding high schools in FCPS and Arlington are new or recently overhauled and enlarged. It seems like the influence from the McLean community has waned.

They will vote for a democrat no matter what they do or don’t do, so no one has to care about disappointing them. It’s not a lack of population, money to donate or anything else.

They’re in the bag so none of it matters.

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Anonymous wrote:If they build at Bull Run they will be reassigning mostly Westfield and Centreville feeders to the new school. How do you see it helping Chantilly and Oakton?

Westfield boundary will be readjusted to take some of Chantilly kids. Oakton is not a major concern now.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounded like Hutchison is out for Plattenburg- said that a currently owned FCPS property has a surrounding park that gets so much community use for that area- that they would not be able to use that site.

Yep, sounds like they'll look for some vacant commercial building along Route 28 further south and probably retrofit it like Bailey's Upper in Seven Corners. I'm sure it will be great as long as it keeps Great Falls out of Herndon.

Plenty land in Great falls. The county can build a school there. Idk why we are looking in these locations where there isn’t enough property. Just doesn’t make sense.

And who is going to go to that?

The Bull Run area would make more sense than Great Falls if they actually did build a new school. I think it's a fiction. They've all but said Hutchison is DOA and trotting out the idea of retrofitting office buildings seems like a ploy to get people to object in advance.

Did you see the meeting- the ball is actually rolling on this... will it get to the finish line- tbd. It sounds like they have everyone on SB to be in favor of this-although some left some wiggle room.

Does this mean that Langley boundary won’t be changed after all? For many years people on this board have been talking about how the new HS would/should change the Langley and Herndon boundaries. It looks like their hope is going down the drain.

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Neither school is overcrowded and both had recent expansions.

Worrying about that specific issue is silly.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounded like Hutchison is out for Plattenburg- said that a currently owned FCPS property has a surrounding park that gets so much community use for that area- that they would not be able to use that site.

Yep, sounds like they'll look for some vacant commercial building along Route 28 further south and probably retrofit it like Bailey's Upper in Seven Corners. I'm sure it will be great as long as it keeps Great Falls out of Herndon.

Plenty land in Great falls. The county can build a school there. Idk why we are looking in these locations where there isn’t enough property. Just doesn’t make sense.

And who is going to go to that?

The Bull Run area would make more sense than Great Falls if they actually did build a new school. I think it's a fiction. They've all but said Hutchison is DOA and trotting out the idea of retrofitting office buildings seems like a ploy to get people to object in advance.

Did you see the meeting- the ball is actually rolling on this... will it get to the finish line- tbd. It sounds like they have everyone on SB to be in favor of this-although some left some wiggle room.

Does this mean that Langley boundary won’t be changed after all? For many years people on this board have been talking about how the new HS would/should change the Langley and Herndon boundaries. It looks like their hope is going down the drain.

If they don't build a high school near Hutchison, it certainly reduces the likelihood that people will be thinking about Herndon or Langley in connection with a new western high school.

The issue that the Langley pyramid is facing relates more to Cooper MS. The current plan is to only add 45 seats to Cooper during its renovation, which would bring its capacity to 1120 (less than half of Langley's capacity of 2370). If all the growth in Tysons requires moving additional kids out of the Marshall and McLean pyramids into the Langley pyramid, that could squeeze Cooper and still lead to moving kids out of the Langley pyramid.

From the Great Falls/McLean perspective, they should be unified in pushing hard for more seats at Cooper and an addition at McLean.

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Anonymous wrote:Hispanics in Fairfax County are an easy target for the DCUM-types, maybe because Hispanics here just want the opportunity to work and stay quiet because they're glad to have escaped war-torn Central America.

Now just imagine if Fairfax County's poor Hispanic population was instead replaced with the similar high-poverty African-American population from Prince George's county. Can you even fathom how it would look if the FCPS School Board was behaving in the same way as it is now, concentrating all the poor African-American families into a few poor schools, and listening to screaming rich parents who don't want to go to school with poor black children?

That already happens though?

Hardly. Hayfield, Mt. Vernon, and South County share the highest % of black students, around 25%. Totally different situation if Lewis, Justice, Annandale, Herndon, and Falls Church HS were all 50% African-American instead of Hispanic. Would the boundary-change deniers have the guts to be so publicly vocal in their repulsion to those schools? I think we'd be having very different conversations if those were the county's demographics.

Yeah Black people may give a little more resistance, but the suspected white supremacists would still speak out. Probably more so since they have more of a hatred towards Blacks than any other race.

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Nothing says “white supremacy” more loudly than “every school needs a certain percentage of white children to be good.”

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing says “white supremacy” more loudly than “every school needs a certain percentage of white children to be good.”

Not necessarily. If you have a school system runs by whites primarily for the benefit of white children, then having white kids in your school may be necessary to ensure it gets appropriate resources and attention.

There was a reason why “separate but equal” was invalidated. The NAACP didn’t challenge it because they thought White children were superior. They challenged it because they knew Black schools were inferior.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing says “white supremacy” more loudly than “every school needs a certain percentage of white children to be good.”

Not necessarily. If you have a school system runs by whites primarily for the benefit of white children, then having white kids in your school may be necessary to ensure it gets appropriate resources and attention.

There was a reason why “separate but equal” was invalidated. The NAACP didn’t challenge it because they thought White children were superior. They challenged it because they knew Black schools were inferior.

So you need the racist white government which is against poc to make racist white peoples go to school with poc so the racist white peoples will be forced to give poc the same quality. Makes sense, especially these days.

It should be easy enough in Fairfax county with our internet and smart phones to find out where the school board and gatehouse are failing to spend as much per pupil and to provide the “not white enough” schools with the same maintenance, infrastructure etc. as the “white enough to care about” schools.