Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:A 4 year old Palestinian girl in the West Bank was shot and killed in the backseat of a car and called a “young lady” by Israeli media .

Amazing how they consider Palestinian kids adults.

Ruqaya Ahmad Odeh Jahalin, four, was shot in the back by Israeli forces around 5:30 p.m. on January 7 while sitting in the backseat of a shared taxi van near an Israeli military checkpoint near the Palestinian village of Beit Iksa, northwest of Jerusalem in the central occupied West Bank, according to documentation collected by Defense for Children International - Palestine. After Ruqaya and her mother drove through the checkpoint, a car driving about 40 meters (131 feet) behind them did not stop for inspection by Israeli forces. Israeli forces opened fire on both vehicles, striking Ruqaya in the back. An Israeli military ambulance transported Ruqaya and her mother to the checkpoint, where Ruqaya’s father met them. Israeli forces interrogated Ruqaya’s father before allowing him to leave without releasing Ruqaya’s body.

Why are Palestinians trying to crash military checkpoints? And aren't people aware that bullets are messy things, they can bounce, they can penetrate through one object and continue travel to another, and so on. Attempting to ram your way through a military checkpoint puts everyone at risk. It would be sheer insanity to assume nobody would get hurt from such an act.

The four year old? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint. The driver of her vehicle? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint.

The IDF killed a child for the crime of being Palestinian. And you defended it. Two fascinating levels of dehumanization on display.

A lunatic next to them did tried to crash the military checkpoint, and that person is who put the child in that risk. And again, you seem completely oblivious to realities as they unfold on the ground. You seem incredibly naive about the world.

Do you realize you make no sense. The person whose finger is in the trigger is the one who kills.

Technically, of course.

Morally and legally? It depends. Felony murder doctrine, for example.

Felony murder doctrine in this case would implicate the IDF. They were already engaged in an occupation deemed illegal https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiopt/2022-10-19/Report-COI-OPT-14Sept2022-EN.pdf when they shot a child who had, incidentally, not committed any crime.

I’m sure the IDF will “investigate”

The international community must ostracize Israel and, if it continues to support Israel, the United States.

Israel is doing incalculable damage to America’s global standing.

America’s global standing is not affected in any material way by its support for Israel.

Get serious.

Our global standing is actually negatively affected by our unbiased support for Israel.

My. Fancy that

I'm old enough to know the US's global standing is negatively affected no matter what we do. Many countries including the dogmatic Arab countries think the US is nutters for endorsing and promoting LGBTA rights, for example.

Coming to the stage, y’all, it’s the ever-present nutters shrew! Woo!

Would you believe that there are two of us?

Glorious word. Evocative, precise, and oh-so-apt.

Doubt the universe is ready for two of you, but DID is an actual disorder, so …

As to your point, the argument that the U.S. will be criticized or disliked by others no matter what we do is utter bullshit that’s easy to see through. That argument has been misused for decades now by Zionists to take attention away from the actual consequences of our support of Israel and the blank check we provide that enables Israel to terrorize and bully its neighbors.

After the 9/11 attacks occurred, the perpetrators told us in very, very, very explicit terms that the attacks were planned and executed in direct response to our support of Israel and its sustained, horrific mistreatment of indigenous Palestinians in the Middle East. The message was clear: we were attacked because of the devastating damage to regional stability and human rights that the U.S. has enabled Israel to author without consequence.

In response, the Zionist propaganda campaign sprung to life and distorted what was actually said into “They hate our Western values and way of life!” … and tens of millions of Americans still eat at that poisoned trough today.

Save that nonsense that our actions have no consequence for someone else.

Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:A 4 year old Palestinian girl in the West Bank was shot and killed in the backseat of a car and called a “young lady” by Israeli media .

Amazing how they consider Palestinian kids adults.

Ruqaya Ahmad Odeh Jahalin, four, was shot in the back by Israeli forces around 5:30 p.m. on January 7 while sitting in the backseat of a shared taxi van near an Israeli military checkpoint near the Palestinian village of Beit Iksa, northwest of Jerusalem in the central occupied West Bank, according to documentation collected by Defense for Children International - Palestine. After Ruqaya and her mother drove through the checkpoint, a car driving about 40 meters (131 feet) behind them did not stop for inspection by Israeli forces. Israeli forces opened fire on both vehicles, striking Ruqaya in the back. An Israeli military ambulance transported Ruqaya and her mother to the checkpoint, where Ruqaya’s father met them. Israeli forces interrogated Ruqaya’s father before allowing him to leave without releasing Ruqaya’s body.

Why are Palestinians trying to crash military checkpoints? And aren't people aware that bullets are messy things, they can bounce, they can penetrate through one object and continue travel to another, and so on. Attempting to ram your way through a military checkpoint puts everyone at risk. It would be sheer insanity to assume nobody would get hurt from such an act.

The four year old? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint. The driver of her vehicle? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint.

The IDF killed a child for the crime of being Palestinian. And you defended it. Two fascinating levels of dehumanization on display.

A lunatic next to them did tried to crash the military checkpoint, and that person is who put the child in that risk. And again, you seem completely oblivious to realities as they unfold on the ground. You seem incredibly naive about the world.

Do you realize you make no sense. The person whose finger is in the trigger is the one who kills.

Technically, of course.

Morally and legally? It depends. Felony murder doctrine, for example.

Felony murder doctrine in this case would implicate the IDF. They were already engaged in an occupation deemed illegal https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiopt/2022-10-19/Report-COI-OPT-14Sept2022-EN.pdf when they shot a child who had, incidentally, not committed any crime.

I’m sure the IDF will “investigate”

The international community must ostracize Israel and, if it continues to support Israel, the United States.

Israel is doing incalculable damage to America’s global standing.

America’s global standing is not affected in any material way by its support for Israel.

Get serious.

Our global standing is actually negatively affected by our unbiased support for Israel.

I mean, this is just kinda silly.

First, "global standing" means what to you exactly?

Second, how exactly is our security or prosperity affected by an alleged decline in global standing?

Third, even if "global standing" has some importance, what gives you the idea that supporting Israel will actually negatively affect it? (It won't.)

Global standing is everything when you want influence . The Middle East used to be the US’s sphere of influence. Not anymore. China brokered a historic peace deal between Saudi Arabia and Iran this year without any interference or knowledge by the U.S. -that’s huge . The US, not one to be one-upped, pushed Saudi Arabia to recognize Israel as well. Then, Hamas said “oh no, they don’t” and 10/7 happened.

China, Russia, and the ME have come together and realized they share more values . I hate to say it but nobody in the world is taking the US seriously with the rainbow lit White House and trans generals. It’s stuff like that has made us lose our influence worldwide particularly in the East (and I consider Russia the East)

I agree that China, the ME and Russia share values. That’s the problem.

That said, global standing comes from exactly two things: money and power.

China’s making inroads in the ME bc of these factors, not bc of its stellar human rights record WRT to Muslims (remember the Uighurs?).

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“I said voluntary emigration, and in Judaism, there is an idea known as ‘Compelling him until he says, I want,’” Kahri said shortly before the clip of the interview shared on X begins, referring to a Jewish legal concept that typically applies to divorce or charitable giving.

When the interviewer, Moran Azulay, asked how the Israeli government would accomplish that, Karhi’s reply was blunt.

“The war does what it does,” he said.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/israel-gaza-hamas-voluntary-emigration_n_659f0ad9e4b0e696b9109c39

This is where you stop pretending it didn't happen. Even if Al-Quds network carried it.

Not pretending anything. The Israeli far right is despicable.

As is QNN.

Right....because the government minister who wants to torture people until they want to leave, and a TV network that reports his comments are, like, totally comparable.

Yes, that's exactly what I said.

Care to share bin Laden's letter next?

Or perhaps some Chinese government statements on the glorious "re-education" of the Uighurs?

So...you think this comments ought not be reported?

Or you simply dislike the fact they were reported by the people you dislike?

Have they lied?

I don't think that people should spread terrorist propaganda. (Of course they've lied).

There's a term for people like that: terrorist sympathizers.

I think that people SHOULD discuss news from reputable sources, including the abominable comments by some members of the Israeli government.

Point out their lies in the coverage of the minister's speech, thanks.

Zero percent chance I'm visiting QNN website.

Why? Because I don't support terrorists.

But if you'd like to review their (abysmal) credibility rating, you can do so at the link below. Bottom line: they lie.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/quds-news-network-bias-and-credibility/

Of course you support terrorists! Israel was built on the back of a fully documented, accredited, and very active terrorist movement - Zionism!

Get real - Israel and its founders have been the author of more terrorism over the past 100 years than any nation or group. You can’t run from those facts, though I’m certain you will try to distort the facts, or engage in ad hominem attacks, or launch into some other kind of propaganda screed to try to convince others (yourself, too?) that Israel has actually been nothing worse than a ray of perfect sunshine surrounded by sub-human barbarians committed to opposing their actions in the region for completely unknown reasons.

Huh. I wouldn’t say any of those things.

Looks like you’re wrong again.

Care to share your link to the Al Aqsa fangurl page next?

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Anonymous wrote:A 4 year old Palestinian girl in the West Bank was shot and killed in the backseat of a car and called a “young lady” by Israeli media .

Amazing how they consider Palestinian kids adults.

Ruqaya Ahmad Odeh Jahalin, four, was shot in the back by Israeli forces around 5:30 p.m. on January 7 while sitting in the backseat of a shared taxi van near an Israeli military checkpoint near the Palestinian village of Beit Iksa, northwest of Jerusalem in the central occupied West Bank, according to documentation collected by Defense for Children International - Palestine. After Ruqaya and her mother drove through the checkpoint, a car driving about 40 meters (131 feet) behind them did not stop for inspection by Israeli forces. Israeli forces opened fire on both vehicles, striking Ruqaya in the back. An Israeli military ambulance transported Ruqaya and her mother to the checkpoint, where Ruqaya’s father met them. Israeli forces interrogated Ruqaya’s father before allowing him to leave without releasing Ruqaya’s body.

Why are Palestinians trying to crash military checkpoints? And aren't people aware that bullets are messy things, they can bounce, they can penetrate through one object and continue travel to another, and so on. Attempting to ram your way through a military checkpoint puts everyone at risk. It would be sheer insanity to assume nobody would get hurt from such an act.

The four year old? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint. The driver of her vehicle? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint.

The IDF killed a child for the crime of being Palestinian. And you defended it. Two fascinating levels of dehumanization on display.

A lunatic next to them did tried to crash the military checkpoint, and that person is who put the child in that risk. And again, you seem completely oblivious to realities as they unfold on the ground. You seem incredibly naive about the world.

Do you realize you make no sense. The person whose finger is in the trigger is the one who kills.

Technically, of course.

Morally and legally? It depends. Felony murder doctrine, for example.

Felony murder doctrine in this case would implicate the IDF. They were already engaged in an occupation deemed illegal https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiopt/2022-10-19/Report-COI-OPT-14Sept2022-EN.pdf when they shot a child who had, incidentally, not committed any crime.

I’m sure the IDF will “investigate”

The international community must ostracize Israel and, if it continues to support Israel, the United States.

Israel is doing incalculable damage to America’s global standing.

America’s global standing is not affected in any material way by its support for Israel.

Get serious.

Our global standing is actually negatively affected by our unbiased support for Israel.

My. Fancy that

I'm old enough to know the US's global standing is negatively affected no matter what we do. Many countries including the dogmatic Arab countries think the US is nutters for endorsing and promoting LGBTA rights, for example.

Coming to the stage, y’all, it’s the ever-present nutters shrew! Woo!

Would you believe that there are two of us?

Glorious word. Evocative, precise, and oh-so-apt.

Doubt the universe is ready for two of you, but DID is an actual disorder, so …

As to your point, the argument that the U.S. will be criticized or disliked by others no matter what we do is utter bullshit that’s easy to see through. That argument has been misused for decades now by Zionists to take attention away from the actual consequences of our support of Israel and the blank check we provide that enables Israel to terrorize and bully its neighbors.

After the 9/11 attacks occurred, the perpetrators told us in very, very, very explicit terms that the attacks were planned and executed in direct response to our support of Israel and its sustained, horrific mistreatment of indigenous Palestinians in the Middle East. The message was clear: we were attacked because of the devastating damage to regional stability and human rights that the U.S. has enabled Israel to author without consequence.

In response, the Zionist propaganda campaign sprung to life and distorted what was actually said into “They hate our Western values and way of life!” … and tens of millions of Americans still eat at that poisoned trough today.

Save that nonsense that our actions have no consequence for someone else.

So your argument is that the US shouldn’t support Israel bc Islamic terrorists?

Snort.

But accepting your argument for a moment, OBL wanted to incite revolution throughout the ME.

So the US should stop providing arms and support to all ME countries too, right?

Only OBL—approved global interactions for the US henceforth!

[Anonymous]

The case South Africa made for Genocidal intent and appeal for provisional protection of Palestinian people is very compelling on it's own, but it is also supported by the ICJ's prior rulings.

View the hearing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2vQ7suQWGg The best speaker can be heard from hour 1:32 - 2:02
But the South African barrister just before her is also very compelling, clear and articulate.

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Anonymous wrote:The case South Africa made for Genocidal intent and appeal for provisional protection of Palestinian people is very compelling on it's own, but it is also supported by the ICJ's prior rulings.

View the hearing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2vQ7suQWGg The best speaker can be heard from hour 1:32 - 2:02
But the South African barrister just before her is also very compelling, clear and articulate.

The outcome here is pretty much a given, I'd say, and entirely meaningless.

Provisional measures are roughly the equivalent of a TRO. Not a ruling on the merits.

It's the international community saying "hey guys, cut it out and get along, wontcha?"

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OBL is not really relevant to the Israel Palestine story. He didn’t care that much about Israel or Palestine and he didn’t like Arafat or Rabin for trying to make peace (kinda not his MO) and mocked their failed peace process as a success..

OBL’s anger was he didn’t get the credit on the world stage for dismantling the Soviets and Americans didn’t mention him as a “war hero” against communism in the way Afghans and others did

Initially he was pro American in the 80s and anti Soviet/communist (saying America was a country of God like the Muslims and remarking that the “in God we trust” was on Us currency unlike so called “infidel” Soviet Russia) and joined forces with the Taliban to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. That was what really undid the Soviets . The Afghanistan expenditure .. the Taliban used to hang American flags to taunt the Soviets in the 80s..

He thought he was in the mountains of Afghanistan for a reason and eventually the US would make him a leader of either Afghanistan or some other Arab country and he was laughed at.

Then, the Gulf War happens and he realizes he has an in to attract other young Arab males by antagonizing America as the enemy number 1 and using Israel Palestine as a reasoning as well. His real reason was always ego and need for power.

What’s comical is now the Taliban is now pro Russian and Putins friend. The enemy of my enemy is my friend rings so true

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Anonymous wrote:A 4 year old Palestinian girl in the West Bank was shot and killed in the backseat of a car and called a “young lady” by Israeli media .

Amazing how they consider Palestinian kids adults.

Ruqaya Ahmad Odeh Jahalin, four, was shot in the back by Israeli forces around 5:30 p.m. on January 7 while sitting in the backseat of a shared taxi van near an Israeli military checkpoint near the Palestinian village of Beit Iksa, northwest of Jerusalem in the central occupied West Bank, according to documentation collected by Defense for Children International - Palestine. After Ruqaya and her mother drove through the checkpoint, a car driving about 40 meters (131 feet) behind them did not stop for inspection by Israeli forces. Israeli forces opened fire on both vehicles, striking Ruqaya in the back. An Israeli military ambulance transported Ruqaya and her mother to the checkpoint, where Ruqaya’s father met them. Israeli forces interrogated Ruqaya’s father before allowing him to leave without releasing Ruqaya’s body.

Why are Palestinians trying to crash military checkpoints? And aren't people aware that bullets are messy things, they can bounce, they can penetrate through one object and continue travel to another, and so on. Attempting to ram your way through a military checkpoint puts everyone at risk. It would be sheer insanity to assume nobody would get hurt from such an act.

The four year old? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint. The driver of her vehicle? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint.

The IDF killed a child for the crime of being Palestinian. And you defended it. Two fascinating levels of dehumanization on display.

A lunatic next to them did tried to crash the military checkpoint, and that person is who put the child in that risk. And again, you seem completely oblivious to realities as they unfold on the ground. You seem incredibly naive about the world.

Do you realize you make no sense. The person whose finger is in the trigger is the one who kills.

Technically, of course.

Morally and legally? It depends. Felony murder doctrine, for example.

Felony murder doctrine in this case would implicate the IDF. They were already engaged in an occupation deemed illegal https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiopt/2022-10-19/Report-COI-OPT-14Sept2022-EN.pdf when they shot a child who had, incidentally, not committed any crime.

I’m sure the IDF will “investigate”

The international community must ostracize Israel and, if it continues to support Israel, the United States.

Israel is doing incalculable damage to America’s global standing.

America’s global standing is not affected in any material way by its support for Israel.

Get serious.

Our global standing is actually negatively affected by our unbiased support for Israel.

I mean, this is just kinda silly.

First, "global standing" means what to you exactly?

Second, how exactly is our security or prosperity affected by an alleged decline in global standing?

Third, even if "global standing" has some importance, what gives you the idea that supporting Israel will actually negatively affect it? (It won't.)

Global standing is everything when you want influence . The Middle East used to be the US’s sphere of influence. Not anymore. China brokered a historic peace deal between Saudi Arabia and Iran this year without any interference or knowledge by the U.S. -that’s huge . The US, not one to be one-upped, pushed Saudi Arabia to recognize Israel as well. Then, Hamas said “oh no, they don’t” and 10/7 happened.

China, Russia, and the ME have come together and realized they share more values . I hate to say it but nobody in the world is taking the US seriously with the rainbow lit White House and trans generals. It’s stuff like that has made us lose our influence worldwide particularly in the East (and I consider Russia the East)

I agree that China, the ME and Russia share values. That’s the problem.

That said, global standing comes from exactly two things: money and power.

China’s making inroads in the ME bc of these factors, not bc of its stellar human rights record WRT to Muslims (remember the Uighurs?).

Yep, their values are about supporting dictators, funding and arming terrorists, destabilizing governments, and trying to destroy anyone who gets in their way. And by the way, Russia, Iran and China are now the new colonizers.

Wild that the PP is trying to make them out to be the good guys.

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Anonymous wrote:The case South Africa made for Genocidal intent and appeal for provisional protection of Palestinian people is very compelling on it's own, but it is also supported by the ICJ's prior rulings.

View the hearing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2vQ7suQWGg The best speaker can be heard from hour 1:32 - 2:02
But the South African barrister just before her is also very compelling, clear and articulate.

Except for the fact that it's not genocide. Womp, womp.

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Anonymous wrote:The case South Africa made for Genocidal intent and appeal for provisional protection of Palestinian people is very compelling on it's own, but it is also supported by the ICJ's prior rulings.

View the hearing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2vQ7suQWGg The best speaker can be heard from hour 1:32 - 2:02
But the South African barrister just before her is also very compelling, clear and articulate.

The outcome here is pretty much a given, I'd say, and entirely meaningless.

Provisional measures are roughly the equivalent of a TRO. Not a ruling on the merits.

It's the international community saying "hey guys, cut it out and get along, wontcha?"

If that were true, Israel wouldn't be attending and mounting a counter -arguement, Satanyahu wouldn't be frothing at the mouth

Certainly, the Israeli delegate seems to be taking the proof against the R wing fascist Likud zealots pretty hard in this moment of the hearing: 1:58-2:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2vQ7suQWGg

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Anonymous wrote:The case South Africa made for Genocidal intent and appeal for provisional protection of Palestinian people is very compelling on it's own, but it is also supported by the ICJ's prior rulings.

View the hearing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2vQ7suQWGg The best speaker can be heard from hour 1:32 - 2:02
But the South African barrister just before her is also very compelling, clear and articulate.

Except for the fact that it's not genocide. Womp, womp.

Sure just like the Holocaust was not genocide?

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Anonymous wrote:A 4 year old Palestinian girl in the West Bank was shot and killed in the backseat of a car and called a “young lady” by Israeli media .

Amazing how they consider Palestinian kids adults.

Ruqaya Ahmad Odeh Jahalin, four, was shot in the back by Israeli forces around 5:30 p.m. on January 7 while sitting in the backseat of a shared taxi van near an Israeli military checkpoint near the Palestinian village of Beit Iksa, northwest of Jerusalem in the central occupied West Bank, according to documentation collected by Defense for Children International - Palestine. After Ruqaya and her mother drove through the checkpoint, a car driving about 40 meters (131 feet) behind them did not stop for inspection by Israeli forces. Israeli forces opened fire on both vehicles, striking Ruqaya in the back. An Israeli military ambulance transported Ruqaya and her mother to the checkpoint, where Ruqaya’s father met them. Israeli forces interrogated Ruqaya’s father before allowing him to leave without releasing Ruqaya’s body.

Why are Palestinians trying to crash military checkpoints? And aren't people aware that bullets are messy things, they can bounce, they can penetrate through one object and continue travel to another, and so on. Attempting to ram your way through a military checkpoint puts everyone at risk. It would be sheer insanity to assume nobody would get hurt from such an act.

The four year old? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint. The driver of her vehicle? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint.

The IDF killed a child for the crime of being Palestinian. And you defended it. Two fascinating levels of dehumanization on display.

A lunatic next to them did tried to crash the military checkpoint, and that person is who put the child in that risk. And again, you seem completely oblivious to realities as they unfold on the ground. You seem incredibly naive about the world.

Do you realize you make no sense. The person whose finger is in the trigger is the one who kills.

Technically, of course.

Morally and legally? It depends. Felony murder doctrine, for example.

Felony murder doctrine in this case would implicate the IDF. They were already engaged in an occupation deemed illegal https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiopt/2022-10-19/Report-COI-OPT-14Sept2022-EN.pdf when they shot a child who had, incidentally, not committed any crime.

I’m sure the IDF will “investigate”

The international community must ostracize Israel and, if it continues to support Israel, the United States.

Israel is doing incalculable damage to America’s global standing.

America’s global standing is not affected in any material way by its support for Israel.

Get serious.

Our global standing is actually negatively affected by our unbiased support for Israel.

My. Fancy that

I'm old enough to know the US's global standing is negatively affected no matter what we do. Many countries including the dogmatic Arab countries think the US is nutters for endorsing and promoting LGBTA rights, for example.

Coming to the stage, y’all, it’s the ever-present nutters shrew! Woo!

Would you believe that there are two of us?

Glorious word. Evocative, precise, and oh-so-apt.

Doubt the universe is ready for two of you, but DID is an actual disorder, so …

As to your point, the argument that the U.S. will be criticized or disliked by others no matter what we do is utter bullshit that’s easy to see through. That argument has been misused for decades now by Zionists to take attention away from the actual consequences of our support of Israel and the blank check we provide that enables Israel to terrorize and bully its neighbors.

After the 9/11 attacks occurred, the perpetrators told us in very, very, very explicit terms that the attacks were planned and executed in direct response to our support of Israel and its sustained, horrific mistreatment of indigenous Palestinians in the Middle East. The message was clear: we were attacked because of the devastating damage to regional stability and human rights that the U.S. has enabled Israel to author without consequence.

In response, the Zionist propaganda campaign sprung to life and distorted what was actually said into “They hate our Western values and way of life!” … and tens of millions of Americans still eat at that poisoned trough today.

Save that nonsense that our actions have no consequence for someone else.

So your argument is that the US shouldn’t support Israel bc Islamic terrorists?

Snort.

But accepting your argument for a moment, OBL wanted to incite revolution throughout the ME.

So the US should stop providing arms and support to all ME countries too, right?

Only OBL—approved global interactions for the US henceforth!

DP Supporting Israel cause and increases terrorism. When the US cuts ties and stops propping up Israel, the ME will stabilize. The US can finally reapproach Irans and bring stability to the region in the world.

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Anonymous wrote:Wael Al-Dahdouh sends a message to his supporters after the death of Al-Jazeera reporter and his son Hamzah.

For his steadfastness in the face of so much personal loss Wael has been nicknamed Al Jabal, "the mountain".

Asked by NBC News if the IDF had evidence to support its allegation that an individual in the vehicle was a terrorist, IDF spokesperson Daniel Hagari said the incident was “unfortunate” and an investigation was still ongoing.

“Every journalist that dies it’s unfortunate," he said.

“We understand they were putting a drone, using a drone. And using a drone in a war zone, it’s a problem. It looks like the terrorists,” Hagari said, adding that Hamas uses drones to collect intel on Israeli forces. “So we will investigate this incident and we will provide the data,” Hagari said.

Al Jazeera managing editor Mohamed Moawad told NBC News that Thuraya was a freelance drone operator for the network. He said the duo were in the car on their way home from filming the aftermath of an airstrike when their vehicle was targeted by Israeli forces, adding that they were not flying a drone while driving back to Rafah.

In a statement, Al Jazeera condemned the attack, calling Hamza and Thuraya’s deaths an “assassination” and urging legal action to be taken to restrain the Israeli military. The network added that the Israeli military has “systemically targeted” Dahdouh and his family.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/wael-dahdouh-palestinian-journalist-son-killed-israeli-strike-gaza-rcna132791

So now the IDF story is that the people in the car may have been operating drones and since Hamas also operates drones, anyone who uses a drone is a target?

The IDF is morally repugnant.

So IDF has changed their story again in regards to the killing of Hamza and Thuraya.

Now Israel is claiming that both were terrorists.

The statement included a purported document from the Islamic Jihad that mentioned Dahdouh and stated that he worked in the militant group’s electronic engineering unit and had previously been employed as “deputy commander in the Zeitun Battalion’s Rocket Array.”

The document and its contents could not be immediately authenticated by The Washington Post.

Separately, Thuraya was described as “a member of Hamas’ Gaza City Brigade, serving as Squad Deputy Commander in the al-Qadisiyyah Battalion.” The IDF said the title was found in a document discovered in Gaza; the military said the document would not be shared.

It sounds like IDF is putting out some BS documents. If they were terrorists, why not say that they had documents showing they were terrorists 5 days ago and present the proof?

I know this is just the death of two individuals, in the middle of deaths of so many others. But their car was targeted. They were killed on purpose. Not accidentally, not a misfire or as collateral damage. They were two journalists and the intentional assassination of journalists by a so-called democracy should be a big deal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/01/11/israel-hamas-war-news-gaza-live-updates/#link-QJHGWCJEQRAEFCKEXCDAYCRHC4

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Anonymous wrote:A 4 year old Palestinian girl in the West Bank was shot and killed in the backseat of a car and called a “young lady” by Israeli media .

Amazing how they consider Palestinian kids adults.

Ruqaya Ahmad Odeh Jahalin, four, was shot in the back by Israeli forces around 5:30 p.m. on January 7 while sitting in the backseat of a shared taxi van near an Israeli military checkpoint near the Palestinian village of Beit Iksa, northwest of Jerusalem in the central occupied West Bank, according to documentation collected by Defense for Children International - Palestine. After Ruqaya and her mother drove through the checkpoint, a car driving about 40 meters (131 feet) behind them did not stop for inspection by Israeli forces. Israeli forces opened fire on both vehicles, striking Ruqaya in the back. An Israeli military ambulance transported Ruqaya and her mother to the checkpoint, where Ruqaya’s father met them. Israeli forces interrogated Ruqaya’s father before allowing him to leave without releasing Ruqaya’s body.

Why are Palestinians trying to crash military checkpoints? And aren't people aware that bullets are messy things, they can bounce, they can penetrate through one object and continue travel to another, and so on. Attempting to ram your way through a military checkpoint puts everyone at risk. It would be sheer insanity to assume nobody would get hurt from such an act.

The four year old? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint. The driver of her vehicle? Didn’t crash a military checkpoint.

The IDF killed a child for the crime of being Palestinian. And you defended it. Two fascinating levels of dehumanization on display.

A lunatic next to them did tried to crash the military checkpoint, and that person is who put the child in that risk. And again, you seem completely oblivious to realities as they unfold on the ground. You seem incredibly naive about the world.

Do you realize you make no sense. The person whose finger is in the trigger is the one who kills.

Technically, of course.

Morally and legally? It depends. Felony murder doctrine, for example.

Felony murder doctrine in this case would implicate the IDF. They were already engaged in an occupation deemed illegal https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiopt/2022-10-19/Report-COI-OPT-14Sept2022-EN.pdf when they shot a child who had, incidentally, not committed any crime.

I’m sure the IDF will “investigate”

The international community must ostracize Israel and, if it continues to support Israel, the United States.

Israel is doing incalculable damage to America’s global standing.

America’s global standing is not affected in any material way by its support for Israel.

Get serious.

Our global standing is actually negatively affected by our unbiased support for Israel.

My. Fancy that

I'm old enough to know the US's global standing is negatively affected no matter what we do. Many countries including the dogmatic Arab countries think the US is nutters for endorsing and promoting LGBTA rights, for example.

Coming to the stage, y’all, it’s the ever-present nutters shrew! Woo!

Would you believe that there are two of us?

Glorious word. Evocative, precise, and oh-so-apt.

Doubt the universe is ready for two of you, but DID is an actual disorder, so …

As to your point, the argument that the U.S. will be criticized or disliked by others no matter what we do is utter bullshit that’s easy to see through. That argument has been misused for decades now by Zionists to take attention away from the actual consequences of our support of Israel and the blank check we provide that enables Israel to terrorize and bully its neighbors.

After the 9/11 attacks occurred, the perpetrators told us in very, very, very explicit terms that the attacks were planned and executed in direct response to our support of Israel and its sustained, horrific mistreatment of indigenous Palestinians in the Middle East. The message was clear: we were attacked because of the devastating damage to regional stability and human rights that the U.S. has enabled Israel to author without consequence.

In response, the Zionist propaganda campaign sprung to life and distorted what was actually said into “They hate our Western values and way of life!” … and tens of millions of Americans still eat at that poisoned trough today.

Save that nonsense that our actions have no consequence for someone else.

So your argument is that the US shouldn’t support Israel bc Islamic terrorists?

Snort.

But accepting your argument for a moment, OBL wanted to incite revolution throughout the ME.

So the US should stop providing arms and support to all ME countries too, right?

Only OBL—approved global interactions for the US henceforth!

DP Supporting Israel cause and increases terrorism. When the US cuts ties and stops propping up Israel, the ME will stabilize. The US can finally reapproach Irans and bring stability to the region in the world.

Wow. Extra delusional. Just every bit of this. Especially the suggestion that the Iran could ever be a force for stability!!! OMFG.

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Anonymous wrote:The case South Africa made for Genocidal intent and appeal for provisional protection of Palestinian people is very compelling on it's own, but it is also supported by the ICJ's prior rulings.

View the hearing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2vQ7suQWGg The best speaker can be heard from hour 1:32 - 2:02
But the South African barrister just before her is also very compelling, clear and articulate.

South Africa is a failed state. Deeply corrupt. Pro-Russian. They should probably spend their energy on providing electricity and a decent eduction to their people.

And I love South Africa. Beautiful country. Good people. But the ANC is ruining the country. Not at all surprised they'd do a high profile thing like this instead of actually working for the betterment of South Africans.

It's a domestic distraction from the ANC's failures as a government. Shouldn't be taken seriously. The ANC is not exactly the allied powers at the Nuremberg Trials. Every single minister in the ANC would be in prison in a country that actually valued law and order.