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Anonymous wrote:I think the Feds should charge Wint with 1 count of capital murder involving torture, arson, and murder of a child, in the death of the son, and say they want the Federal death penalty, which applies in these cases. DC can charge him with the other 3 murders where there is no death penalty. Seems like that's the only leverage they have to get his cooperation. I am sure the police work is world class, but his cooperation would certainly help to bring closure to all of this.



+1

I know law enforcement has lots of evidence, and is hopefully making progress. I just hope this case doesn't end up as much of a mess as the prosecution of Chandra Levy's killer; now he's getting a new trial:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/05/22/chandra-levy-new-trial/27808085/


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What's the basis for a federal charge here? They can't just make any murder into a federal charge. There has to be something like murder of a federal official, murder in federal land, interstate human trafficking/kidnapping, etc.
I agree the death penalty would give them some negotiating leverage to get the accomplices, but don't know what the federal jurisdictional basis is.
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crime crossed states
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Anonymous wrote:crime crossed states[/quo


It also involved extortion of money, banks. Etc.
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Anonymous wrote:There is no way assistant knew Wint. There is no way Wint knew SS. He was pissed that relative was fired, did some research and went for revenge and cash. I think there was intent to murder from the beginning. No way he knew SS personally. How many of us know the CEO of our companies personally? SS had many business ventures and likely traveled or was out of AIW offices often. I don't believe that anyone in that house recognized Wint. I don't think perps knew family schedule as police first reported. I think that was an assumption but inaccurate.


Wint worked at AIW in 2010 and was fired as a result of his improper conduct; he then, made a display of his violent behavior as he showed up at the company’s headquarter wearing a gun and threatening the personnel.
Wint was arrested carrying a 2-foot-long machete and a BB pistol outside the American Iron Works headquarters, but weapons charges were dropped after he pleaded guilty to possessing an open container of alcohol.
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Anonymous wrote:What's the basis for a federal charge here? They can't just make any murder into a federal charge. There has to be something like murder of a federal official, murder in federal land, interstate human trafficking/kidnapping, etc.
I agree the death penalty would give them some negotiating leverage to get the accomplices, but don't know what the federal jurisdictional basis is.


The arson, resulting in death, is what could make it a federal capital crime.
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Anonymous wrote:What's the basis for a federal charge here? They can't just make any murder into a federal charge. There has to be something like murder of a federal official, murder in federal land, interstate human trafficking/kidnapping, etc.
I agree the death penalty would give them some negotiating leverage to get the accomplices, but don't know what the federal jurisdictional basis is.


Federal death penalty applies in 1st degree murder if compounded by any one of the following. WMD. Terrorism. Arson. Torture. Murder of a Child.

I don't even think state lines need to be crossed in these exceptional cases, but like Boston Marathon, and McVeigh, they were in the course of the crime. The forced call to Maryland all alone trips the interstate.
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Per Fox5, police were at the crime scene today and towed away the white Range Rover, Red Audi and a grey smaller version of the Range Rover.

What I did notice was that the white and red vehicles displayed Maryland tags. I wonder if SS titled those vehicles to the company?
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There was some stuff on the news tonight about the police scrutinizing the assistants lies.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What's the basis for a federal charge here? They can't just make any murder into a federal charge. There has to be something like murder of a federal official, murder in federal land, interstate human trafficking/kidnapping, etc.
I agree the death penalty would give them some negotiating leverage to get the accomplices, but don't know what the federal jurisdictional basis is.


The arson, resulting in death, is what could make it a federal capital crime.


No, I don't think so. Can you cite the law supporting this? I think arson is a state crime unless it involves property over which the feds have jurisdiction (and the feds don't have jurisdiction over SS's home)
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What's the basis for a federal charge here? They can't just make any murder into a federal charge. There has to be something like murder of a federal official, murder in federal land, interstate human trafficking/kidnapping, etc.
I agree the death penalty would give them some negotiating leverage to get the accomplices, but don't know what the federal jurisdictional basis is.


Federal death penalty applies in 1st degree murder if compounded by any one of the following. WMD. Terrorism. Arson. Torture. Murder of a Child.

I don't even think state lines need to be crossed in these exceptional cases, but like Boston Marathon, and McVeigh, they were in the course of the crime. The forced call to Maryland all alone trips the interstate.


Are you a lawyer? What are you basing this on? The Boston Bomber is charged w/ using WMD, etc. and McVeigh blew up a federal building. Clearly, there's fed jurisdiction in those two cases. But I don't think the feds get to take this case just b/c it's "really bad." That's not the way our government works. The federal government has to have the power under the Constitution to enact the laws. Maybe there's a federal hook here (I'm not a criminal lawyer), but these responses are not convincing to me.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What's the basis for a federal charge here? They can't just make any murder into a federal charge. There has to be something like murder of a federal official, murder in federal land, interstate human trafficking/kidnapping, etc.
I agree the death penalty would give them some negotiating leverage to get the accomplices, but don't know what the federal jurisdictional basis is.


Federal death penalty applies in 1st degree murder if compounded by any one of the following. WMD. Terrorism. Arson. Torture. Murder of a Child.

I don't even think state lines need to be crossed in these exceptional cases, but like Boston Marathon, and McVeigh, they were in the course of the crime. The forced call to Maryland all alone trips the interstate.


Are you a lawyer? What are you basing this on? The Boston Bomber is charged w/ using WMD, etc. and McVeigh blew up a federal building. Clearly, there's fed jurisdiction in those two cases. But I don't think the feds get to take this case just b/c it's "really bad." That's not the way our government works. The federal government has to have the power under the Constitution to enact the laws. Maybe there's a federal hook here (I'm not a criminal lawyer), but these responses are not convincing to me.


Jeez Louise, you don't need a lawyer to read the Law. This case is the archetype example where execution by the federal government trumps the state.

Capital offenses[edit]

Federal Medical Center, Carswell, Texas, houses the female death row inmates
These are the offenses punishable by life imprisonment or death under United States Code:[9]

Causing death by using a chemical weapon or a weapon of mass destruction
Killing a member of the Congress, the Cabinet or United States Supreme Court
Kidnapping a member of the Congress, the Cabinet or Supreme Court resulting in death
Conspiracy to kill a member of the Congress, the Cabinet or Supreme Court resulting in death
Causing death by using an explosive
Causing death by using an illegal firearm
Causing death during a drug-related drive-by shooting
Genocide resulting in death
Carjacking resulting in death
Willful destruction of aircraft or motor vehicles resulting in death.
Causing death by aircraft hijacking or any attempt to commit aircraft hijacking.
Causing death by kidnapping or hostage taking.
First degree murder
Murder perpetrated by poison or lying in wait
Murder that is willful, deliberate, malicious, and premeditated
Murder in the perpetration of, or in the attempt to perpetrate, any arson, torture, escape, kidnapping, treason, espionage, sabotage, aggravated sexual abuse or sexual abuse, child abuse, burglary, or robbery.
Murder perpetrated as part of a pattern or practice of assault or torture against a child or children
Murder committed by a federal prisoner or an escaped federal prisoner sentenced to 15 years to life or a more severe penalty
Assassinating the President or a member of his staff
Kidnapping the President or a member of his staff resulting in death
Killing persons aiding Federal investigations or State correctional officers
Willful wrecking of a train resulting in death
Sexual abuse resulting in death
Sexual exploitation of children resulting in death
Torture resulting in death
War crimes resulting in death
Large-scale drug trafficking
Attempting, authorizing or advising the killing of any officer, juror, or witness in cases involving a Continuing Criminal Enterprise, even if such killing does not occur.
Espionage
Treason
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