Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I already have Baldoni's complaint open, so this is what it says about the contract:
" Despite constant
pursuit over several months, Lively’s attorney never produced notes, and Lively not only didn’t
sign the Nudity Rider during the first phase of production but never even signed her employment
agreement. Her main concern while Wayfarer’s lawyers were all but begging for signatures was
ensuring her fee was deposited into escrow. In order to move forward, they had to pay her fee even
though she hadn’t signed her agreements. "

I can't seem to find the date when she actually signed the nudity rider and the employment agreement. Very bizarre that Wayfarer allowed this.

We now know that Justin was beholden to Sony and Sony is beholden to Ryan. Justin was f-ked from the start.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think people criticizing Wayfair mishandling of this movie are missing that Sony was a major financer of the film and Ryan Reynolds is majorly in bed with Sony.

When all this first came out it looked like Sony was just the distributor, but we now have evidence that that wasn’t the case. Justin in an interview talked about Sony’s major partnership in this and how he allowed it to happen because he wanted this film to be seen more broadly.

It is the whole reason Blake was cast. I’m tired of people throwing up arms and being like why didn’t Wayfair demand she sign the contract? Why didn’t they demand she turn in the nudity rider contract? Did you not see what’s happening from day one. Justin had very little control.

Sony wanted to keep Blake happy so that Ryan would be happy. Well, I’m glad it worked out like this for them because I don’t think Ryan is going to be the future money maker they once thought.

Wayfarer was still the production company and the ones running the set and negotiating the contracts. I am pretty sure they would still be the ones getting the riders signed - not Sony. And Justin gave up a lot of control from Day 1. He actively and exuberantly encouraged Blakes input into writing scenes before filming even started.

I don't know Sony's role but wanting the film to be seen more broadly would still be distribution. But Sony didn't seem to be doing the casting or running the set or negotiating the contracts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is solely hearsay from an anonymous online source who says they know about the set but according to them the Intimacy Coordinators were not hired to be on set until the hiatus (about July). That prior to the hiatus there was an IC who was hired as a consultant, but it was only after all the May / June complaints that they hired 2 ICs to work on the set and I believe they were present going forward once filming resumed.

I'm someone who tends to give Lively the benefit of the doubt more than others, but this could simply be due to the intimate scenes not having been scheduled until the back end of shooting. I'm definitely curious to hear more from the IC(s) though. It will be an important part of the case - did Lively really refuse meetings other than the initial one, did the IC really suggest added intimacy that Baldoni went along with, are Baldoni's handwritten notes accurate, what really happened with Ferrer, etc.

Well, we know she refused the initial meeting because we have those texts. And at this point she has not refuted them so I see no reason why we wouldn’t believe them.

Right, but I want to know if she refused other meetings. The first meeting came off as a casual meet and greet, like do you want to stop in and say hi? And she said nah. That's fine. If she refused to participate in other substantive meetings to coordinate the intimacy, and then complains about lack of an intimacy coordinator, then that hurts her case.

I have no idea about subsequent meetings but with regards to the IC I don't think it's a great look that Ryan skewered Baldoni in his depiction of Nicepool. He depicts Nicepool as a guy insisting on a whole bunch of things on set including demanding an IC (very Hollywood insider talk for a mainstream film) with the obvious implication that wanting an IC or other demands of a professional set makes you a whiny, beta loser.

Then he posted the quote below to Sandra Bullock. He was so obsessed with dragging Justin “covertly” on social media. Say what you want about Blake and Ryan, but they are def hypocrites. At no point did they act like professionals. But they expected it.

“For your birthday this year, I got us both intimacy coordinators. And an HR department. And clothing?'”

RR is the absolute worst.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the rationale as to why Baldoni's team don't even mention the HR role or HR response in their complaints?

And why wouldn't anyone from HR have been at the Return to Production meeting given it was about addressing workplace issues on set? They had the Sony rep (Ange), the new producer (Tony), Alex Saks (had been a producer all along) and the main parties.

I think Wayfarer is just a poorly run company.

They've only been around for about 5 years but have a surprising amount of high profile litigation. They've also been sued for racial discrimination/harassment by someone (a black man) who worked on the podcast, a copyright/IP theft claim related to the movie Five Feet Apart, and several others. I think they are messy and often unprofessional.

Now do Weinstein Company. How were they run?

Also, please do Ari Emanuel’s Endeavor. Were they messy and problematic with tons of lawsuits and NDAs or is Ari a Boy Scout?

Weinstein Co. was obviously horribly run. Weinstein was a rapist who rightfully went to prison. Is there debate about this?

I have never heard about problems at Endeavor in terms of harassment. If there are, I certainly think they should be addressed. I will say that Emanuel, however tough or potty mouthed he is known to be, he's well respected for being professional and getting the job done. But yeah, if his business is sloppily run in way that harms employees, it should be held to the same standard.

But none of that negates the point that Wayfarer seems to have screwed things up here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the rationale as to why Baldoni's team don't even mention the HR role or HR response in their complaints?

And why wouldn't anyone from HR have been at the Return to Production meeting given it was about addressing workplace issues on set? They had the Sony rep (Ange), the new producer (Tony), Alex Saks (had been a producer all along) and the main parties.

I think Wayfarer is just a poorly run company.

They've only been around for about 5 years but have a surprising amount of high profile litigation. They've also been sued for racial discrimination/harassment by someone (a black man) who worked on the podcast, a copyright/IP theft claim related to the movie Five Feet Apart, and several others. I think they are messy and often unprofessional.

Now do Weinstein Company. How were they run?

Also, please do Ari Emanuel’s Endeavor. Were they messy and problematic with tons of lawsuits and NDAs or is Ari a Boy Scout?

Weinstein Co. was obviously horribly run. Weinstein was a rapist who rightfully went to prison. Is there debate about this?

I have never heard about problems at Endeavor in terms of harassment. If there are, I certainly think they should be addressed. I will say that Emanuel, however tough or potty mouthed he is known to be, he's well respected for being professional and getting the job done. But yeah, if his business is sloppily run in way that harms employees, it should be held to the same standard.

But none of that negates the point that Wayfarer seems to have screwed things up here.

What about Ari’s close relationship with P Diddy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is solely hearsay from an anonymous online source who says they know about the set but according to them the Intimacy Coordinators were not hired to be on set until the hiatus (about July). That prior to the hiatus there was an IC who was hired as a consultant, but it was only after all the May / June complaints that they hired 2 ICs to work on the set and I believe they were present going forward once filming resumed.

I'm someone who tends to give Lively the benefit of the doubt more than others, but this could simply be due to the intimate scenes not having been scheduled until the back end of shooting. I'm definitely curious to hear more from the IC(s) though. It will be an important part of the case - did Lively really refuse meetings other than the initial one, did the IC really suggest added intimacy that Baldoni went along with, are Baldoni's handwritten notes accurate, what really happened with Ferrer, etc.

Well, we know she refused the initial meeting because we have those texts. And at this point she has not refuted them so I see no reason why we wouldn’t believe them.

Right, but I want to know if she refused other meetings. The first meeting came off as a casual meet and greet, like do you want to stop in and say hi? And she said nah. That's fine. If she refused to participate in other substantive meetings to coordinate the intimacy, and then complains about lack of an intimacy coordinator, then that hurts her case.

I have no idea about subsequent meetings but with regards to the IC I don't think it's a great look that Ryan skewered Baldoni in his depiction of Nicepool. He depicts Nicepool as a guy insisting on a whole bunch of things on set including demanding an IC (very Hollywood insider talk for a mainstream film) with the obvious implication that wanting an IC or other demands of a professional set makes you a whiny, beta loser.

Then he posted the quote below to Sandra Bullock. He was so obsessed with dragging Justin “covertly” on social media. Say what you want about Blake and Ryan, but they are def hypocrites. At no point did they act like professionals. But they expected it.

“For your birthday this year, I got us both intimacy coordinators. And an HR department. And clothing?'”

RR is the absolute worst.

I also joke with friends about terrible stuff that is going down while it is happening. Many people do but I understand your need to turn this into a major character flaw. If he is abusing or controlling that’s another issue, and maybe the yelling at Baldoni was Not Great. I don’t think his dark sense of humor (which made him millions on Deadpool and while millions of Americans find funny) should be on trial here, but if it is I don’t find that comment objectionable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the rationale as to why Baldoni's team don't even mention the HR role or HR response in their complaints?

And why wouldn't anyone from HR have been at the Return to Production meeting given it was about addressing workplace issues on set? They had the Sony rep (Ange), the new producer (Tony), Alex Saks (had been a producer all along) and the main parties.

I think Wayfarer is just a poorly run company.

They've only been around for about 5 years but have a surprising amount of high profile litigation. They've also been sued for racial discrimination/harassment by someone (a black man) who worked on the podcast, a copyright/IP theft claim related to the movie Five Feet Apart, and several others. I think they are messy and often unprofessional.

Now do Weinstein Company. How were they run?

Also, please do Ari Emanuel’s Endeavor. Were they messy and problematic with tons of lawsuits and NDAs or is Ari a Boy Scout?

Weinstein Co. was obviously horribly run. Weinstein was a rapist who rightfully went to prison. Is there debate about this?

I have never heard about problems at Endeavor in terms of harassment. If there are, I certainly think they should be addressed. I will say that Emanuel, however tough or potty mouthed he is known to be, he's well respected for being professional and getting the job done. But yeah, if his business is sloppily run in way that harms employees, it should be held to the same standard.

But none of that negates the point that Wayfarer seems to have screwed things up here.

What about Ari’s close relationship with P Diddy?

I don't know anything about that. Again, if Emanuel has committed crimes or hurt people, he should be held to account. I have no particular love for him, or Blake, or Ryan.

But none of that changes my assessment, based on all the fillings in this case, that Wayfarer is sloppily run and made a lot of dumb choices here that escalated these issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think people criticizing Wayfair mishandling of this movie are missing that Sony was a major financer of the film and Ryan Reynolds is majorly in bed with Sony.

When all this first came out it looked like Sony was just the distributor, but we now have evidence that that wasn’t the case. Justin in an interview talked about Sony’s major partnership in this and how he allowed it to happen because he wanted this film to be seen more broadly.

It is the whole reason Blake was cast. I’m tired of people throwing up arms and being like why didn’t Wayfair demand she sign the contract? Why didn’t they demand she turn in the nudity rider contract? Did you not see what’s happening from day one. Justin had very little control.

Sony wanted to keep Blake happy so that Ryan would be happy. Well, I’m glad it worked out like this for them because I don’t think Ryan is going to be the future money maker they once thought.

Wayfarer was still the production company and the ones running the set and negotiating the contracts. I am pretty sure they would still be the ones getting the riders signed - not Sony. And Justin gave up a lot of control from Day 1. He actively and exuberantly encouraged Blakes input into writing scenes before filming even started.

I don't know Sony's role but wanting the film to be seen more broadly would still be distribution. But Sony didn't seem to be doing the casting or running the set or negotiating the contracts.

Not the point I was trying to make. Agree it was all on Wayfair shoulders but they couldn’t push Blake because of Sony. That is the part that you were missing. They were very beholden to Sony and Sony very beholden to Ryan.

Essentially Wayfair had no leverage. People blame it on mismanagement, but I think it’s simply that they just couldn’t push for anything. He obviously should’ve never done this movie with Blake, which I’m sure he realizes in hindsight - it was a lose lose situation.

[Anonymous]

Team Justin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think people criticizing Wayfair mishandling of this movie are missing that Sony was a major financer of the film and Ryan Reynolds is majorly in bed with Sony.

When all this first came out it looked like Sony was just the distributor, but we now have evidence that that wasn’t the case. Justin in an interview talked about Sony’s major partnership in this and how he allowed it to happen because he wanted this film to be seen more broadly.

It is the whole reason Blake was cast. I’m tired of people throwing up arms and being like why didn’t Wayfair demand she sign the contract? Why didn’t they demand she turn in the nudity rider contract? Did you not see what’s happening from day one. Justin had very little control.

Sony wanted to keep Blake happy so that Ryan would be happy. Well, I’m glad it worked out like this for them because I don’t think Ryan is going to be the future money maker they once thought.

Yeah, and I’ve been talking a lot about Wayfarer mishandling this from an HR perspective. But I just re-read her 17-pt return to work requirements, and it says that she is willing to “forego a more formal HR process in favor of everyone returning to work” if they agree to the 17 points.

It was just a clever chess move. Because they agreed to that and in doing so gave her 100% power over everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is solely hearsay from an anonymous online source who says they know about the set but according to them the Intimacy Coordinators were not hired to be on set until the hiatus (about July). That prior to the hiatus there was an IC who was hired as a consultant, but it was only after all the May / June complaints that they hired 2 ICs to work on the set and I believe they were present going forward once filming resumed.

I'm someone who tends to give Lively the benefit of the doubt more than others, but this could simply be due to the intimate scenes not having been scheduled until the back end of shooting. I'm definitely curious to hear more from the IC(s) though. It will be an important part of the case - did Lively really refuse meetings other than the initial one, did the IC really suggest added intimacy that Baldoni went along with, are Baldoni's handwritten notes accurate, what really happened with Ferrer, etc.

Well, we know she refused the initial meeting because we have those texts. And at this point she has not refuted them so I see no reason why we wouldn’t believe them.

Right, but I want to know if she refused other meetings. The first meeting came off as a casual meet and greet, like do you want to stop in and say hi? And she said nah. That's fine. If she refused to participate in other substantive meetings to coordinate the intimacy, and then complains about lack of an intimacy coordinator, then that hurts her case.

I have no idea about subsequent meetings but with regards to the IC I don't think it's a great look that Ryan skewered Baldoni in his depiction of Nicepool. He depicts Nicepool as a guy insisting on a whole bunch of things on set including demanding an IC (very Hollywood insider talk for a mainstream film) with the obvious implication that wanting an IC or other demands of a professional set makes you a whiny, beta loser.

Then he posted the quote below to Sandra Bullock. He was so obsessed with dragging Justin “covertly” on social media. Say what you want about Blake and Ryan, but they are def hypocrites. At no point did they act like professionals. But they expected it.

“For your birthday this year, I got us both intimacy coordinators. And an HR department. And clothing?'”

RR is the absolute worst.

He's such trash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the rationale as to why Baldoni's team don't even mention the HR role or HR response in their complaints?

And why wouldn't anyone from HR have been at the Return to Production meeting given it was about addressing workplace issues on set? They had the Sony rep (Ange), the new producer (Tony), Alex Saks (had been a producer all along) and the main parties.

I think Wayfarer is just a poorly run company.

They've only been around for about 5 years but have a surprising amount of high profile litigation. They've also been sued for racial discrimination/harassment by someone (a black man) who worked on the podcast, a copyright/IP theft claim related to the movie Five Feet Apart, and several others. I think they are messy and often unprofessional.

Now do Weinstein Company. How were they run?

Also, please do Ari Emanuel’s Endeavor. Were they messy and problematic with tons of lawsuits and NDAs or is Ari a Boy Scout?

Weinstein Co. was obviously horribly run. Weinstein was a rapist who rightfully went to prison. Is there debate about this?

I have never heard about problems at Endeavor in terms of harassment. If there are, I certainly think they should be addressed. I will say that Emanuel, however tough or potty mouthed he is known to be, he's well respected for being professional and getting the job done. But yeah, if his business is sloppily run in way that harms employees, it should be held to the same standard.

But none of that negates the point that Wayfarer seems to have screwed things up here.

Ari and Endeavor’s scandals and problems are a mile long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think people criticizing Wayfair mishandling of this movie are missing that Sony was a major financer of the film and Ryan Reynolds is majorly in bed with Sony.

When all this first came out it looked like Sony was just the distributor, but we now have evidence that that wasn’t the case. Justin in an interview talked about Sony’s major partnership in this and how he allowed it to happen because he wanted this film to be seen more broadly.

It is the whole reason Blake was cast. I’m tired of people throwing up arms and being like why didn’t Wayfair demand she sign the contract? Why didn’t they demand she turn in the nudity rider contract? Did you not see what’s happening from day one. Justin had very little control.

Sony wanted to keep Blake happy so that Ryan would be happy. Well, I’m glad it worked out like this for them because I don’t think Ryan is going to be the future money maker they once thought.

Wayfarer was still the production company and the ones running the set and negotiating the contracts. I am pretty sure they would still be the ones getting the riders signed - not Sony. And Justin gave up a lot of control from Day 1. He actively and exuberantly encouraged Blakes input into writing scenes before filming even started.

I don't know Sony's role but wanting the film to be seen more broadly would still be distribution. But Sony didn't seem to be doing the casting or running the set or negotiating the contracts.

Not the point I was trying to make. Agree it was all on Wayfair shoulders but they couldn’t push Blake because of Sony. That is the part that you were missing. They were very beholden to Sony and Sony very beholden to Ryan.

Essentially Wayfair had no leverage. People blame it on mismanagement, but I think it’s simply that they just couldn’t push for anything. He obviously should’ve never done this movie with Blake, which I’m sure he realizes in hindsight - it was a lose lose situation.

I agree. Both are true. Wayfarer is poorly run which we see very clearly early on but then near the end it’s clear they have no leverage at all. But I think the way they ran it from the beginning created the set culture that also gave her permission to take over. And no one told her not to or to stop and instead kept praising her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the rationale as to why Baldoni's team don't even mention the HR role or HR response in their complaints?

And why wouldn't anyone from HR have been at the Return to Production meeting given it was about addressing workplace issues on set? They had the Sony rep (Ange), the new producer (Tony), Alex Saks (had been a producer all along) and the main parties.

I think Wayfarer is just a poorly run company.

They've only been around for about 5 years but have a surprising amount of high profile litigation. They've also been sued for racial discrimination/harassment by someone (a black man) who worked on the podcast, a copyright/IP theft claim related to the movie Five Feet Apart, and several others. I think they are messy and often unprofessional.

I think lawsuits are just part of playing at this level. Those other lawsuits are not high profile. You only know about them because of this case. We live in a litigious world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the rationale as to why Baldoni's team don't even mention the HR role or HR response in their complaints?

And why wouldn't anyone from HR have been at the Return to Production meeting given it was about addressing workplace issues on set? They had the Sony rep (Ange), the new producer (Tony), Alex Saks (had been a producer all along) and the main parties.

I think Wayfarer is just a poorly run company.

They've only been around for about 5 years but have a surprising amount of high profile litigation. They've also been sued for racial discrimination/harassment by someone (a black man) who worked on the podcast, a copyright/IP theft claim related to the movie Five Feet Apart, and several others. I think they are messy and often unprofessional.

I think lawsuits are just part of playing at this level. Those other lawsuits are not high profile. You only know about them because of this case. We live in a litigious world.

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