Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is solely hearsay from an anonymous online source who says they know about the set but according to them the Intimacy Coordinators were not hired to be on set until the hiatus (about July). That prior to the hiatus there was an IC who was hired as a consultant, but it was only after all the May / June complaints that they hired 2 ICs to work on the set and I believe they were present going forward once filming resumed.


I'm someone who tends to give Lively the benefit of the doubt more than others, but this could simply be due to the intimate scenes not having been scheduled until the back end of shooting. I'm definitely curious to hear more from the IC(s) though. It will be an important part of the case - did Lively really refuse meetings other than the initial one, did the IC really suggest added intimacy that Baldoni went along with, are Baldoni's handwritten notes accurate, what really happened with Ferrer, etc.


Well, we know she refused the initial meeting because we have those texts. And at this point she has not refuted them so I see no reason why we wouldn’t believe them.


Right, but I want to know if she refused other meetings. The first meeting came off as a casual meet and greet, like do you want to stop in and say hi? And she said nah. That's fine. If she refused to participate in other substantive meetings to coordinate the intimacy, and then complains about lack of an intimacy coordinator, then that hurts her case.
Anonymous
I also don’t understand why an actress can threaten to walk off a set after weeks. There were numerous documentations of Blake lawyers to wayfarer saying that she would quit the movie if she didn’t get one of her demands, but didn’t she also sign a contract? I just don’t understand why that would be allowed to happen.


She hadn't signed her contract. No idea why they let her begin filming without it. Don't know if that's typical in the industry but I doubt it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the rationale as to why Baldoni's team don't even mention the HR role or HR response in their complaints?

And why wouldn't anyone from HR have been at the Return to Production meeting given it was about addressing workplace issues on set? They had the Sony rep (Ange), the new producer (Tony), Alex Saks (had been a producer all along) and the main parties.


There were so many things wrong with that meeting. Why was it at Blake and Ryan’s apartment? It seems really inappropriate. It also set the stage for Ryan to scream and parade him, and for the Sony professional to say she had never seen anything like that in all of her years.

It would’ve been nice to have someone in HR for Blake, but also frankly to protect Justin as that is harassment as well.

This industry seems to just operate very differently than your run of the mill workplaces I guess.

I also don’t understand why an actress can threaten to walk off a set after weeks. There were numerous documentations of Blake lawyers to wayfarer saying that she would quit the movie if she didn’t get one of her demands, but didn’t she also sign a contract? I just don’t understand why that would be allowed to happen.


She had never signed her contract and they didn't make her. There was a lot of messaging back and forth about it but I don't think it was ever signed

HR really protects the company more than the employees - they hear both sides. It just doesn't make sense that they wouldn't be at such a meeting. And having it at someone's home is also bizarre. The whole thing just sounds like a mess from Day 1.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is solely hearsay from an anonymous online source who says they know about the set but according to them the Intimacy Coordinators were not hired to be on set until the hiatus (about July). That prior to the hiatus there was an IC who was hired as a consultant, but it was only after all the May / June complaints that they hired 2 ICs to work on the set and I believe they were present going forward once filming resumed.


I'm someone who tends to give Lively the benefit of the doubt more than others, but this could simply be due to the intimate scenes not having been scheduled until the back end of shooting. I'm definitely curious to hear more from the IC(s) though. It will be an important part of the case - did Lively really refuse meetings other than the initial one, did the IC really suggest added intimacy that Baldoni went along with, are Baldoni's handwritten notes accurate, what really happened with Ferrer, etc.


Well, we know she refused the initial meeting because we have those texts. And at this point she has not refuted them so I see no reason why we wouldn’t believe them.


Right, but I want to know if she refused other meetings. The first meeting came off as a casual meet and greet, like do you want to stop in and say hi? And she said nah. That's fine. If she refused to participate in other substantive meetings to coordinate the intimacy, and then complains about lack of an intimacy coordinator, then that hurts her case.


I don't think she refused any other meetings or else Baldoni's complaint would have detailed that given it is someone central to the issues and they mention her missing the initial meeting multiple times.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the rationale as to why Baldoni's team don't even mention the HR role or HR response in their complaints?

And why wouldn't anyone from HR have been at the Return to Production meeting given it was about addressing workplace issues on set? They had the Sony rep (Ange), the new producer (Tony), Alex Saks (had been a producer all along) and the main parties.


I think Wayfarer is just a poorly run company.

They've only been around for about 5 years but have a surprising amount of high profile litigation. They've also been sued for racial discrimination/harassment by someone (a black man) who worked on the podcast, a copyright/IP theft claim related to the movie Five Feet Apart, and several others. I think they are messy and often unprofessional.


Now do Weinstein Company. How were they run?
Anonymous
Someone here posted a narrative of all the parties involved and the weird ties to right wing or other organizations a hundred pages ago, which I found really interesting.

I still think it’s interesting that Baldoni is friends with (and has had on his podcast) Penn Badgley (Lively ex from gossip girl days) and Scooter Braun. Of course Braun is known for as Taylor Swifts enemy who bought her catalog. He also owns or mostly owns the PR company Baldoni used, which also smeared (Swift friend) Selena Gomez back in the day at the request of Hailey Bieber/justin Bieber. Plus Freedman previously defended Meghyn Kelly successfully and in turn he then sat down on her podcast to talk about the Baldoni lawsuits. (Wonder how much Jed Wallace was also involved in these cases?). Plus the support from Candace Owens. And who is Baldoni’s main benefactor, the billionaire Sarowitz who is comparing his intended all out defense of Baldoni and Wayfarer to Israel’s no holds barred defense against Hamas? It’s just a weird unseemly bunch of people to have in your corner.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the rationale as to why Baldoni's team don't even mention the HR role or HR response in their complaints?

And why wouldn't anyone from HR have been at the Return to Production meeting given it was about addressing workplace issues on set? They had the Sony rep (Ange), the new producer (Tony), Alex Saks (had been a producer all along) and the main parties.


I think Wayfarer is just a poorly run company.

They've only been around for about 5 years but have a surprising amount of high profile litigation. They've also been sued for racial discrimination/harassment by someone (a black man) who worked on the podcast, a copyright/IP theft claim related to the movie Five Feet Apart, and several others. I think they are messy and often unprofessional.


Now do Weinstein Company. How were they run?


Also, please do Ari Emanuel’s Endeavor. Were they messy and problematic with tons of lawsuits and NDAs or is Ari a Boy Scout?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is solely hearsay from an anonymous online source who says they know about the set but according to them the Intimacy Coordinators were not hired to be on set until the hiatus (about July). That prior to the hiatus there was an IC who was hired as a consultant, but it was only after all the May / June complaints that they hired 2 ICs to work on the set and I believe they were present going forward once filming resumed.


I'm someone who tends to give Lively the benefit of the doubt more than others, but this could simply be due to the intimate scenes not having been scheduled until the back end of shooting. I'm definitely curious to hear more from the IC(s) though. It will be an important part of the case - did Lively really refuse meetings other than the initial one, did the IC really suggest added intimacy that Baldoni went along with, are Baldoni's handwritten notes accurate, what really happened with Ferrer, etc.


Well, we know she refused the initial meeting because we have those texts. And at this point she has not refuted them so I see no reason why we wouldn’t believe them.


Right, but I want to know if she refused other meetings. The first meeting came off as a casual meet and greet, like do you want to stop in and say hi? And she said nah. That's fine. If she refused to participate in other substantive meetings to coordinate the intimacy, and then complains about lack of an intimacy coordinator, then that hurts her case.


I have no idea about subsequent meetings but with regards to the IC I don't think it's a great look that Ryan skewered Baldoni in his depiction of Nicepool. He depicts Nicepool as a guy insisting on a whole bunch of things on set including demanding an IC (very Hollywood insider talk for a mainstream film) with the obvious implication that wanting an IC or other demands of a professional set makes you a whiny, beta loser.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is solely hearsay from an anonymous online source who says they know about the set but according to them the Intimacy Coordinators were not hired to be on set until the hiatus (about July). That prior to the hiatus there was an IC who was hired as a consultant, but it was only after all the May / June complaints that they hired 2 ICs to work on the set and I believe they were present going forward once filming resumed.


I'm someone who tends to give Lively the benefit of the doubt more than others, but this could simply be due to the intimate scenes not having been scheduled until the back end of shooting. I'm definitely curious to hear more from the IC(s) though. It will be an important part of the case - did Lively really refuse meetings other than the initial one, did the IC really suggest added intimacy that Baldoni went along with, are Baldoni's handwritten notes accurate, what really happened with Ferrer, etc.


Well, we know she refused the initial meeting because we have those texts. And at this point she has not refuted them so I see no reason why we wouldn’t believe them.


Right, but I want to know if she refused other meetings. The first meeting came off as a casual meet and greet, like do you want to stop in and say hi? And she said nah. That's fine. If she refused to participate in other substantive meetings to coordinate the intimacy, and then complains about lack of an intimacy coordinator, then that hurts her case.


I don't think she refused any other meetings or else Baldoni's complaint would have detailed that given it is someone central to the issues and they mention her missing the initial meeting multiple times.


His complaint implies she did: "Contrary to Lively’s knowingly false claims, it was Lively who refused to meet with the intimacy coordinator to plan out their scenes, putting Baldoni in the awkward position of meeting alone with the intimacy coordinator and later relaying sex scene suggestions and plans to Lively in the intimacy coordinator’s absence. These meetings often took place, at Lively’s insistence, in the couple’s home, and often while Lively’s husband was present. Lively’s method of work was unconventional and uncomfortable for Baldoni. To suggest Baldoni was the one who created this scenario is knowingly false."

This paragraph implies multiple meetings, but then below it, he only pastes the text where she refused the initial meeting but said she can meet the IC when they start. Baldoni texts this to a female producer who says that's fine and he can walk her through it later. It appears he has no evidence she rejected any other meetings. He refers later to "meetings" (plural) with the IC but no information is given as to whether Lively was invited to those meetings and/or rejected them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the rationale as to why Baldoni's team don't even mention the HR role or HR response in their complaints?

And why wouldn't anyone from HR have been at the Return to Production meeting given it was about addressing workplace issues on set? They had the Sony rep (Ange), the new producer (Tony), Alex Saks (had been a producer all along) and the main parties.


There were so many things wrong with that meeting. Why was it at Blake and Ryan’s apartment? It seems really inappropriate. It also set the stage for Ryan to scream and parade him, and for the Sony professional to say she had never seen anything like that in all of her years.

It would’ve been nice to have someone in HR for Blake, but also frankly to protect Justin as that is harassment as well.

This industry seems to just operate very differently than your run of the mill workplaces I guess.

I also don’t understand why an actress can threaten to walk off a set after weeks. There were numerous documentations of Blake lawyers to wayfarer saying that she would quit the movie if she didn’t get one of her demands, but didn’t she also sign a contract? I just don’t understand why that would be allowed to happen.


She had never signed her contract and they didn't make her. There was a lot of messaging back and forth about it but I don't think it was ever signed

HR really protects the company more than the employees - they hear both sides. It just doesn't make sense that they wouldn't be at such a meeting. And having it at someone's home is also bizarre. The whole thing just sounds like a mess from Day 1.


Why did the text messages from execs say things like “I don’t know; check her contract” then.
Anonymous
I already have Baldoni's complaint open, so this is what it says about the contract:
" Despite constant
pursuit over several months, Lively’s attorney never produced notes, and Lively not only didn’t
sign the Nudity Rider during the first phase of production but never even signed her employment
agreement. Her main concern while Wayfarer’s lawyers were all but begging for signatures was
ensuring her fee was deposited into escrow. In order to move forward, they had to pay her fee even
though she hadn’t signed her agreements. "

I can't seem to find the date when she actually signed the nudity rider and the employment agreement. Very bizarre that Wayfarer allowed this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the rationale as to why Baldoni's team don't even mention the HR role or HR response in their complaints?

And why wouldn't anyone from HR have been at the Return to Production meeting given it was about addressing workplace issues on set? They had the Sony rep (Ange), the new producer (Tony), Alex Saks (had been a producer all along) and the main parties.


There were so many things wrong with that meeting. Why was it at Blake and Ryan’s apartment? It seems really inappropriate. It also set the stage for Ryan to scream and parade him, and for the Sony professional to say she had never seen anything like that in all of her years.

It would’ve been nice to have someone in HR for Blake, but also frankly to protect Justin as that is harassment as well.

This industry seems to just operate very differently than your run of the mill workplaces I guess.

I also don’t understand why an actress can threaten to walk off a set after weeks. There were numerous documentations of Blake lawyers to wayfarer saying that she would quit the movie if she didn’t get one of her demands, but didn’t she also sign a contract? I just don’t understand why that would be allowed to happen.


She had never signed her contract and they didn't make her. There was a lot of messaging back and forth about it but I don't think it was ever signed

HR really protects the company more than the employees - they hear both sides. It just doesn't make sense that they wouldn't be at such a meeting. And having it at someone's home is also bizarre. The whole thing just sounds like a mess from Day 1.


Why did the text messages from execs say things like “I don’t know; check her contract” then.


Both sides talk about her contractual obligations - maybe she signed it after they signed her Return to Production contract? I don't know. It isn't clear if it was every signed but both sides talk about her contract.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is solely hearsay from an anonymous online source who says they know about the set but according to them the Intimacy Coordinators were not hired to be on set until the hiatus (about July). That prior to the hiatus there was an IC who was hired as a consultant, but it was only after all the May / June complaints that they hired 2 ICs to work on the set and I believe they were present going forward once filming resumed.


I'm someone who tends to give Lively the benefit of the doubt more than others, but this could simply be due to the intimate scenes not having been scheduled until the back end of shooting. I'm definitely curious to hear more from the IC(s) though. It will be an important part of the case - did Lively really refuse meetings other than the initial one, did the IC really suggest added intimacy that Baldoni went along with, are Baldoni's handwritten notes accurate, what really happened with Ferrer, etc.


Well, we know she refused the initial meeting because we have those texts. And at this point she has not refuted them so I see no reason why we wouldn’t believe them.


Right, but I want to know if she refused other meetings. The first meeting came off as a casual meet and greet, like do you want to stop in and say hi? And she said nah. That's fine. If she refused to participate in other substantive meetings to coordinate the intimacy, and then complains about lack of an intimacy coordinator, then that hurts her case.


I have no idea about subsequent meetings but with regards to the IC I don't think it's a great look that Ryan skewered Baldoni in his depiction of Nicepool. He depicts Nicepool as a guy insisting on a whole bunch of things on set including demanding an IC (very Hollywood insider talk for a mainstream film) with the obvious implication that wanting an IC or other demands of a professional set makes you a whiny, beta loser.


Then he posted the quote below to Sandra Bullock. He was so obsessed with dragging Justin “covertly” on social media. Say what you want about Blake and Ryan, but they are def hypocrites. At no point did they act like professionals. But they expected it.

“For your birthday this year, I got us both intimacy coordinators. And an HR department. And clothing?'”
Anonymous
One of the requirements in the Return to Production contract that Lively's team sent to Wayfarer in early November was a meeting before filming started. Then they say that the day before filming started, Lively invited them to her home to meet and they were blindsided when she started reading complaints as they thought this was a meeting to discuss filming and production.

But since it doens't seem Wayfarer ever reached out to set up that Return to Production meeting, and had not yet signed the Return to Production contract, why would they be so caught off guard when the complaints were discussed?

It seems that is why maybe it was at her home as she waited until the day before fliming and they still hadn't planned a requested meeting so she called them to her house to meet? And maybe why they were so mad as their Return to Production letter hadn't been responded to in a way that showed action?
Anonymous
I think people criticizing Wayfair mishandling of this movie are missing that Sony was a major financer of the film and Ryan Reynolds is majorly in bed with Sony.

When all this first came out it looked like Sony was just the distributor, but we now have evidence that that wasn’t the case. Justin in an interview talked about Sony’s major partnership in this and how he allowed it to happen because he wanted this film to be seen more broadly.

It is the whole reason Blake was cast. I’m tired of people throwing up arms and being like why didn’t Wayfair demand she sign the contract? Why didn’t they demand she turn in the nudity rider contract? Did you not see what’s happening from day one. Justin had very little control.

Sony wanted to keep Blake happy so that Ryan would be happy. Well, I’m glad it worked out like this for them because I don’t think Ryan is going to be the future money maker they once thought.

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