Compacted Math- FYI

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Anonymous wrote:“We have people?” Who are you? Good lord.

Watch the meetings because you want to be civically engaged. Don’t do it because you are threatened by what “they” will do.

Have you been asleep for the last 2 years? There are numerous MCPS watchdog groups with thousands of members who are watching MCPS's every move because we simply don't trust them. The people in charge of MCPS have lost the script. They are not more concerned with activism than education.

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Anonymous wrote:The only people calling for more diversity are a handful of east county progressives who want to get as many black and brown kids out of their schools as they can and have them replaced with white and Asian kids. Everyone else in the county (even including most people in east county) don't want to be moved out of their current schools unless absolutely necessary. And if they do have to be moved, they want it to be to a school as close to home as possible. They are not concerned about diversity much at all. This is all in the boundary analysis starting on page 107.

Repeating this over and over doesn't make it true. Just makes you look like you have a different sort of agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:The only people calling for more diversity are a handful of east county progressives who want to get as many black and brown kids out of their schools as they can and have them replaced with white and Asian kids. Everyone else in the county (even including most people in east county) don't want to be moved out of their current schools unless absolutely necessary. And if they do have to be moved, they want it to be to a school as close to home as possible. They are not concerned about diversity much at all. This is all in the boundary analysis starting on page 107.

Repeating this over and over doesn't make it true. Just makes you look like you have a different sort of agenda.

I think you're just a racist who doesn't want to come to terms with your white fragility.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

It's all unsubstantiated rumor that seems to be the work of one poster.! I'd even ask multiple times for evidence but they just post more rumors. I've stopped taking them seriously about five pages back.

You are welcome to stop paying attention. However, the rest of us will continue to closely monitor MCPS and the BOE to be on the lookout for this or any other detrimental changes before they become policy. The BOE was able to slip changes in the boundary policy by us (because they failed to notify the public like they were supposed to). Now we have people watching every single meeting.

Look parents are demanding less crowded schools. MCPS responded by building a few more schools so boundary changes are necessary. What do you want them to do? People claimed they wanted diversity. The only way to do that is boundary changes.

According to the boundary analysis not many parents are demanding less crowded schools. And with the new buildings you mentioned plus additions and renos not many kids will need to be rezoned outside the areas right around those schools. And they were loud and clear in the boundary analysis. They do not want to be moved just so MCPS can tick the diversity box.

The new additions and schools were built to deal with the overcrowding, not diversity issue. Most people don't want their kids moved for a variety of reasons. I don't want mine moved as I have to drive them daily back and forth and I want the DCC school choice.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

It's all unsubstantiated rumor that seems to be the work of one poster.! I'd even ask multiple times for evidence but they just post more rumors. I've stopped taking them seriously about five pages back.

You are welcome to stop paying attention. However, the rest of us will continue to closely monitor MCPS and the BOE to be on the lookout for this or any other detrimental changes before they become policy. The BOE was able to slip changes in the boundary policy by us (because they failed to notify the public like they were supposed to). Now we have people watching every single meeting.

Look parents are demanding less crowded schools. MCPS responded by building a few more schools so boundary changes are necessary. What do you want them to do? People claimed they wanted diversity. The only way to do that is boundary changes.

According to the boundary analysis not many parents are demanding less crowded schools. And with the new buildings you mentioned plus additions and renos not many kids will need to be rezoned outside the areas right around those schools. And they were loud and clear in the boundary analysis. They do not want to be moved just so MCPS can tick the diversity box.

The new additions and schools were built to deal with the overcrowding, not diversity issue. Most people don't want their kids moved for a variety of reasons. I don't want mine moved as I have to drive them daily back and forth and I want the DCC school choice.

I was just addressing PP who said "People claimed they wanted diversity." That's simply not true. A handful of race-obsessed zealots convinced the BOE it's what people wanted back in 2018 when the elevated diversity in the boundary policy. But most of those people have faded into irrelevance. And the people of MoCo have spoken loud and clear. And we all agree that we don't want our kids moved. I still think we should all email the BOE to let them know this to remind them of our wishes.

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Anonymous wrote:I was just addressing PP who said "People claimed they wanted diversity." That's simply not true. A handful of race-obsessed zealots convinced the BOE it's what people wanted back in 2018 when the elevated diversity in the boundary policy. But most of those people have faded into irrelevance. And the people of MoCo have spoken loud and clear. And we all agree that we don't want our kids moved. I still think we should all email the BOE to let them know this to remind them of our wishes.

Which is why Stephen Austin won with such overwhelming support!

Oh, wait. Damn, another narrative blown up.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

It's all unsubstantiated rumor that seems to be the work of one poster.! I'd even ask multiple times for evidence but they just post more rumors. I've stopped taking them seriously about five pages back.

There have been multiple posters, including a teacher.

I teach compacted math and hadn't heard anything like this either. This is mostly just gossip spread by people who are panicking when nothing has been announced. Just take a deep breath and chill.

Interesting. Our kid’s compacted math teacher confirmed there are proposed changes with a ‘cut off’ MAP score, report card grades, and grades on tests, but that teachers and principals have been pushing back on the central office on the parameters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was just addressing PP who said "People claimed they wanted diversity." That's simply not true. A handful of race-obsessed zealots convinced the BOE it's what people wanted back in 2018 when the elevated diversity in the boundary policy. But most of those people have faded into irrelevance. And the people of MoCo have spoken loud and clear. And we all agree that we don't want our kids moved. I still think we should all email the BOE to let them know this to remind them of our wishes.

Which is why Stephen Austin won with such overwhelming support!

Oh, wait. Damn, another narrative blown up.

Yes yes. An upstart Republican who began his campaign just a few months before the primary lost in the primary. No surprise there. What is surprising is that the WXY, the consultant that MCPS paid to usher in busing, wasn't able to fudge the numbers enough to show support for busing.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

It's all unsubstantiated rumor that seems to be the work of one poster.! I'd even ask multiple times for evidence but they just post more rumors. I've stopped taking them seriously about five pages back.

There have been multiple posters, including a teacher.

I teach compacted math and hadn't heard anything like this either. This is mostly just gossip spread by people who are panicking when nothing has been announced. Just take a deep breath and chill.

Interesting. Our kid’s compacted math teacher confirmed there are proposed changes with a ‘cut off’ MAP score, report card grades, and grades on tests, but that teachers and principals have been pushing back on the central office on the parameters.

I also asked my kid's compacted math teacher about this last week and they said they'd heard nothing of this sort. Seems like an unsubstantiated rumor at this point unless you know of an official announcement from MCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:I was just addressing PP who said "People claimed they wanted diversity." That's simply not true. A handful of race-obsessed zealots convinced the BOE it's what people wanted back in 2018 when the elevated diversity in the boundary policy. But most of those people have faded into irrelevance. And the people of MoCo have spoken loud and clear. And we all agree that we don't want our kids moved. I still think we should all email the BOE to let them know this to remind them of our wishes.

Which is why Stephen Austin won with such overwhelming support!

Oh, wait. Damn, another narrative blown up.

Yes yes. An upstart Republican who began his campaign just a few months before the primary lost in the primary. No surprise there. What is surprising is that the WXY, the consultant that MCPS paid to usher in busing, wasn't able to fudge the numbers enough to show support for busing.

It seems like they did exactly what they were paid to do is provide a report that was unbiased and well thought out.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

It's all unsubstantiated rumor that seems to be the work of one poster.! I'd even ask multiple times for evidence but they just post more rumors. I've stopped taking them seriously about five pages back.

You are welcome to stop paying attention. However, the rest of us will continue to closely monitor MCPS and the BOE to be on the lookout for this or any other detrimental changes before they become policy. The BOE was able to slip changes in the boundary policy by us (because they failed to notify the public like they were supposed to). Now we have people watching every single meeting.

Look parents are demanding less crowded schools. MCPS responded by building a few more schools so boundary changes are necessary. What do you want them to do? People claimed they wanted diversity. The only way to do that is boundary changes.

According to the boundary analysis not many parents are demanding less crowded schools. And with the new buildings you mentioned plus additions and renos not many kids will need to be rezoned outside the areas right around those schools. And they were loud and clear in the boundary analysis. They do not want to be moved just so MCPS can tick the diversity box.

The new additions and schools were built to deal with the overcrowding, not diversity issue. Most people don't want their kids moved for a variety of reasons. I don't want mine moved as I have to drive them daily back and forth and I want the DCC school choice.

I was just addressing PP who said "People claimed they wanted diversity." That's simply not true. A handful of race-obsessed zealots convinced the BOE it's what people wanted back in 2018 when the elevated diversity in the boundary policy. But most of those people have faded into irrelevance. And the people of MoCo have spoken loud and clear. And we all agree that we don't want our kids moved. I still think we should all email the BOE to let them know this to remind them of our wishes.

Those who claim they want diversity are only doing it for social reasons. If they did, they'd live in an area with diversity. We got to a school with diversity so for us, I don't care at all but I don't want my kids bused out of a diverse school to another school with less diversity as we'll lose out on many other things.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

It's all unsubstantiated rumor that seems to be the work of one poster.! I'd even ask multiple times for evidence but they just post more rumors. I've stopped taking them seriously about five pages back.

There have been multiple posters, including a teacher.

I teach compacted math and hadn't heard anything like this either. This is mostly just gossip spread by people who are panicking when nothing has been announced. Just take a deep breath and chill.

Interesting. Our kid’s compacted math teacher confirmed there are proposed changes with a ‘cut off’ MAP score, report card grades, and grades on tests, but that teachers and principals have been pushing back on the central office on the parameters.

I also asked my kid's compacted math teacher about this last week and they said they'd heard nothing of this sort. Seems like an unsubstantiated rumor at this point unless you know of an official announcement from MCPS?

There was a meeting for principals about this the day after it leaked on DCUM. It’s possible some principals didn’t tell teachers because they didn’t want to alarm them if they thought the directive might change if they complained enough? I emailed Nikki Hazelton after reading it here and she did not deny it, although she also didn’t confirm it. If it was a crazy rumor, I would think she would have told me that. I suggest asking your principal and emailing Ms. Hazelton to see what they say.

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Our ES principal confirmed compacted math changes as well. It was included in the weekly email sent to parents. Grades, MAP score, and district assessments will be used to decide who moves on.

Those who claim this is a rumor are wrong. Your principal isn’t sharing or isn’t aware.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

It's all unsubstantiated rumor that seems to be the work of one poster.! I'd even ask multiple times for evidence but they just post more rumors. I've stopped taking them seriously about five pages back.

You are welcome to stop paying attention. However, the rest of us will continue to closely monitor MCPS and the BOE to be on the lookout for this or any other detrimental changes before they become policy. The BOE was able to slip changes in the boundary policy by us (because they failed to notify the public like they were supposed to). Now we have people watching every single meeting.

Look parents are demanding less crowded schools. MCPS responded by building a few more schools so boundary changes are necessary. What do you want them to do? People claimed they wanted diversity. The only way to do that is boundary changes.

According to the boundary analysis not many parents are demanding less crowded schools. And with the new buildings you mentioned plus additions and renos not many kids will need to be rezoned outside the areas right around those schools. And they were loud and clear in the boundary analysis. They do not want to be moved just so MCPS can tick the diversity box.

The new additions and schools were built to deal with the overcrowding, not diversity issue. Most people don't want their kids moved for a variety of reasons. I don't want mine moved as I have to drive them daily back and forth and I want the DCC school choice.

I was just addressing PP who said "People claimed they wanted diversity." That's simply not true. A handful of race-obsessed zealots convinced the BOE it's what people wanted back in 2018 when the elevated diversity in the boundary policy. But most of those people have faded into irrelevance. And the people of MoCo have spoken loud and clear. And we all agree that we don't want our kids moved. I still think we should all email the BOE to let them know this to remind them of our wishes.

Those who claim they want diversity are only doing it for social reasons. If they did, they'd live in an area with diversity. We got to a school with diversity so for us, I don't care at all but I don't want my kids bused out of a diverse school to another school with less diversity as we'll lose out on many other things.

It's not the people in Bethesda and Potomac calling for more diversity. It's a handful of your woke neighbors. They want to get as many poor black and brown kids our of their (and your) schools and replace them with white and Asian kids. This is racist and disgusting so I encourage you to talk with them to let them know that you do not support busing or any sort of moves just so MCPS can tick the diversity box.

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Anonymous wrote:I was just addressing PP who said "People claimed they wanted diversity." That's simply not true. A handful of race-obsessed zealots convinced the BOE it's what people wanted back in 2018 when the elevated diversity in the boundary policy. But most of those people have faded into irrelevance. And the people of MoCo have spoken loud and clear. And we all agree that we don't want our kids moved. I still think we should all email the BOE to let them know this to remind them of our wishes.

Which is why Stephen Austin won with such overwhelming support!

Oh, wait. Damn, another narrative blown up.

Yes yes. An upstart Republican who began his campaign just a few months before the primary lost in the primary. No surprise there. What is surprising is that the WXY, the consultant that MCPS paid to usher in busing, wasn't able to fudge the numbers enough to show support for busing.

You keep saying "WXY, the consultant that MCPS paid to usher in busing" without evidence.