The Karen meme silences White women

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I feel sorry for my friends named Karen. I have several and at last three are black! It is a BS blatant misogynistic insult meant to silence women. Particularly white women.

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Anonymous wrote:White women don’t deserve to have a voice.

Everyone get what they deserve, this is how life works. Get an education, secure a good paying job and you will get a voice, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is screaming about it? Yes these 29 pages are a mixture of many women or men putting down middle-aged white woman as well as a number of women who find a slogan misogynistic, as the OP does.

NP. Add me to the group that finds it misogynistic. If this were a man, we might find him annoying, or not (sometimes the manager needs respectful input). But we wouldn't call him names and tell him to take his shake and shut up.

Actually we do. But Chad just let it go over his head, and it faded away. Karen, in turn, asked to see our manager.

PP here. Chad, Thad and Brad are a bit different--they're the dumb athletes who can't do math.

Karen is just trying to do something that, if this were a man, nobody would care.

I'd argue the opposite. People do care. Its just that men take their frustrations out in physical violence. See the two Bethesda racists who attacked bystanders in two consecutive weeks just recently. Also all the school shooters. The Las Vegas man who murdered 500 people in 10 minutes. The Oklahoma bomber.

Karens take their frustrations out on workers and individuals they deem social lower than them. They think their appearance and calling police (even when they are the ones in the wrong) will protect them.

So yes, we care when both sides of the coin take out frustrations on hapless individuals which is why we're calling the actions and behavior out.

You're conflating the Las Vegas shooter with someone who got bad service. You're saying both are equally in the wrong.

Then you're going the additional step of saying that the person who got bad service was a bully instead of respectful. It doesn't sound like OP wanted to "beat up on hapless individuals", let alone machine gun them.

We agree that the Las Vegas shooter was evil. But somebody who got bad service and wants to talk to the manager, respectfully? What's wrong with that? If it were a man, you sure wouldn't care.

Nothing. Not a damn thing. As several people have told you all over and over again in the pages and pages and pages of this thread. But as usual, you (the collective you) aren't listening. It has been said some several times over that the meme is NOT about stifling the voice of white women. It is about calling out the self-righteous white women who choose to use their "status" against POC and others with less status than them. If that was not what OP was doing, then the meme is not talking about her.

The bolded above X1000. I am a middle aged white woman and reading this thread is like bashing my head against the wall. As far as I can tell, no one on this thread has actually been silenced, told to shut up, or called out for racist or entitled acts or attitudes that don't apply to them in their day-to-day lives because of the Karen meme. It's all about the fear of being silenced, not the actual experience. Pages and pages about hypothetical silencing.

No, you're not listening. The whole thread is many examples of posters telling OP to just shut up about the service she received. Because, many pps here say, OP obviously just wants to oppress POC to protect her own fragility.

White fragility is a thing. And yes, I read the book.

But you're misusing the concept, and that's a problem. Telling white women they can't seek redress for a problem because they're acting out of fragility is misapplying the idea. You're actually undermining the whole idea of white fragility when you misuse it like this.

[Anonymous]

PP here. Karen is also blatant age discrimination. Young women are exempt because they are still considered sexy and desirable. It intimates because middle aged women are no longer sexy, that their use to society is gone and therefore they should shut up and become invisible when they already essentially are.

Young women using this term: Beware. One day, you too will be a Karen. Unless you die young it is your destiny to be a Karen so I would make this term die if I was you.

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Nobody I know who is a "Karen" really cares what anyone thinks of them.

So if you are this introspective, probably not a "Karen" in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that’s the point. We are sick of the outraged middle aged white woman. The problem is that your outrage is over absolutely nothing and you don’t care who you run over. Instead of building others up, you’ve focused on just yourself and tearing others down.

Silencing OP

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Anonymous wrote:I am the OP, not a troll. And an example of when I might have spoken in the past but did not recently. I ordered curbside pick up from a local smoothie shop a few weeks ago, before we were in phase 1 opening, the restaurant was advertising curbside Pick-up. I ordered my smoothie online, however, When I drove to the shop to pick it up there are a line of people inside the store to order and a line waiting (Inside as well) at the counter to pick up their smoothies. A year ago if this happened, pre-Karen meme, I would have said something along the lines of aren’t we supposed to be doing curbside? Why is everybody in the store? This time I just walked away.

This.... is what you want to call being silenced?!

oh. my

god.

She couldn’t destroy her local smoothie shop by outing them for trying to survive during a pandemic!

THAT’S OPPRESSION.

Silencing OP

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Anonymous wrote:Entitled white women could stand to be silenced.

Silencing OP

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Anonymous wrote:Entitled white women could stand to be silenced.

This headline and OP’s smoothie story could be an Onion article.

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Anonymous wrote:Entitled white women could stand to be silenced.

Case in point, OP's "smoothie silence." If that's anywhere close to the most horrible thing she's experienced regarding staying quiet... all it does is help to point out the value in Karen memes as a necessity to temper some ladies.

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[Anonymous]

Who has been silenced, exactly? Everyone in this thread seems to be able to use their voice loudly and often.

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Anonymous wrote:Go away you nasty troll. Unless someone is attacking you, what do you need to speak up about?
Lack of enough french fries on your plate?

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Anonymous wrote:Must be a troll. Passive aggressive. Check. Entitled? Check. Insane? Check.
Complain about getting out of the car to walk two steps? What the eff is wrong with you!

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[Anonymous]

#KarensforBLM is starting to trend on Twitter

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Anonymous wrote:I am glad to hear that Karen meme is making the world a better place and shutting up OP who is a Karen.

Silencing OP.