20 victims reported at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis

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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


But there already is demand. And no one wants the jobs.
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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


NP.

Yes, agree. This is the way.
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Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


Nobody wants to pay for mental health care. There are tons of mental health workers. What we have are a shortage of people with advanced degrees who are willing to work for $20 or less per hour while battling insurance companies, when they can make $150/hr or more serving well-off private pay patients.
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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the parents were divorced. Bet the dad was a deadbeat.


I’m pretty sure the mom was abusive.
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Anonymous wrote:Mental illness in America.



Being trans in no way = mental illness.


They are highly correlated.


+1 And adding to the problem is the unknown effects of prescribed drugs.


+1


+2 I think the public deserves to know what drugs this person was on.

Definitely agree


Christianity was the drug. She was raised by a right wing family who effed up her mind so much that she snapped. We should investigate christian parents and how they raise their kids so that this doesn’t happen again.


It’s people like this PP that are crazy enough to murder kids over their extremist views.


I don’t think you understand. The Christians raised a murderer, not me. I don’t believe in murder or terrorism.
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Anonymous wrote:His last place of employment was a cannabis dispensary.


She also showed a decorated 2x4 used to secure the school door with in a video CNN just showed. On it she wrote “420 Blaze Up.”

This is obviously a case of cannabis induced psychosis.


You guys just use anything as an excuse to be hateful. Gross.
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Anonymous wrote:How gross to use the death of children to argue about trans. You people are sick.


You’d be happy to talk about “toxic masculinity” when that’s at fault for a tragedy - be consistent please


That sounds like an assumption that stems from your own personal bias. You don’t know me.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


They staffed them with the dregs of society. People who got off on torture.

The institutions were closed for a reason - the whole system was beyond reform.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


There are many documented abuses that occurred to innocent and vulnerable people during that time. Maybe you should be locked up for being a threat to your fellow citizens?
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Anonymous wrote:Big Pharma is a big problem here not guns. Majority of these shooters are on SSRI’s or recently, puberty blockers. Nobody wants to call out the elephant in the room:
Big Pharma


It is insane to me how among the listed side effects for SSRIs - drugs given for severe depression - are suicidal thoughts and suicidal behavior! What are the point of these poisonous things???


When I was in my late 20s a good friend on anti-depressants (SSRIs) committed suicide.


And most people drown during the summer
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Anonymous wrote:Democrats: Create a crisis, lie about it and then blame you for not being "compassionate".


I’m not sure what this has to do with the murder of innocent children. I guess the old canard, “this wouldn’t happen if we had God and prayer back in schools” doesn’t work for you this time?
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In the midst of all the coverage of this shooting, the media has to hold it together. I just saw a clip of that Psaki woman crying as she tried to get through her speech, condemning people who disagree with her.

We can’t go off half-cocked after an emotional event. This isn’t like when Big Balls was mugged, just the latest victim of the thugs terrorizing DC. The shooting was a one-time event. There’s just about zero chance this happens there tomorrow or Friday, just like there was a zero chance Monday and Tuesday.

The President acted when DC became an utter mess, and Big Balls showed that enough is enough with these Democrat cities like DC and Baltimore with the wrong mayors. Minneapolis is pretty horribly run as well, and Trump needs to see what’s going on under the surface, but the shooting was a fluke. Thank goodness the White House and SOME people in Congress understand this.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


But there already is demand. And no one wants the jobs.


Because they pay $20/hour for intense and stressful work. I would just work at starbucks rather than a clinic. Where is all of the $$ going in healthcare? If I go to urgent care I pay at least $100 and I only ever speak with a medical assistant and the front desk both of whom make less than $30/hr so where is my $100 going?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Media is reporting the suicidal shooter was:

“Robin Westman, who is in his early 20s,”

News outlets keep referring to a “20-minute YouTube video shared on his YT account hours before the shooting”

What was in the video? Is it still up?


It's just schizophrenic nonsense.
You can't lock someone up for being nuts in America. They have to either commit a crime or tell a healthcare provider that they are planning to commit a crime (or suicide). And then you can get them 72 hours in a hospital.
This needs to change. We have people who are a danger to society and we are just waiting for these ticking time bombs to go off. Often even their own parents are begging for help.
I will happily pay more taxes for this and I am GOP.


This is so tragic. We need to be able to put people with severe mental disabilities like schizophrenia in protective care.


Honestly Democrats could win their way back to power by making re-institutionalization of the mentally ill part of their platform. It overlaps with their generalized concern about health care access anyway and would generate tons of jobs for the liberal types who like the caring professions. Talking about gun control hasn’t gotten them anywhere. Re-institutionalization is common sense and attractive to moderates.


Who’s gonna staff these clinics??


How did they staff crazy houses, group homes, and psych wards back then? pp is right. You didn’t see this type of thing in the past because crazy people or problem teens were institutionalized early away from polite society


DP. Do you realize there’s already a massive shortage of mental health care providers in this country? The inpatient pediatric mental health facility in my city has a nine month waiting list.


Supply and demand. You can train with an associate’s degree for some nursing and medical assistant jobs. Liberals who would have majored in some silly humanities degree Will major in health care related stuff instead and actually get jobs so they don’t have to beg for us to pay back their student loans for worthless degrees.


You’re suggesting that someone with an associates degree can care for people so mentally ill that they must be institutionalized? Do you have any idea how much you’d have to pay to have the numbers or kind of providers needed for a place like that - the answer is more than we have, so it will be poorly paid and staffed by low quality staff and there will be neglect and abuse like crazy just like it was in the old days.
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Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when we treat gender dysphoria as something to celebrate instead of a mental condition that needs treatment.


There's been, what, 2 transgender mass shooters out of dozens over the last 30 years? How do you account for the others?


There been 2 in the last two years alone. The trans movement is still relatively recent. There will be more, I have no doubt. They have these kids on all sorts of drugs.


I strongly suspect that the rate of violence among transwomen will be found to be similar to that (cis)men. The statistics are still low but it is something to keep in mind the next time you hear the canard that "transwomen are women".


All the more reason to start hormone treatment early. I strongly suspect that the rate of violence among those born male, particularly young males, is due to high levels of testosterone. But if someone wants to make the case that the XY brain is just inherently animal and unstable, I’ll entertain it.
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