But you fail to understand is that we ARE defending Americans by defending the rule of law. |
No, you’re defending someone that should not be here, and beats his Wife. Deep down, you know it’s wrong. |
Of course I know that beating one’s wife is wrong. I don’t think anyone is defending Kilmar’s character. What Dems care about in this matter is that the Trump administration failed repeatedly to follow the law in how they handled his case and then lied about it. Kilmar today—me and you tomorrow. |
This is the problem we have in this country right now. This right here. You all keep acting like certain people deserve certain rights, and it all depends on who they are and you assign a value to them. EVERYONE deserves to have the government here follow the law, not be lying sacks of sh!t, and not engage with foreign governments to commit sanctioned torture. This should never be in question, but for you it is. It’s not about the outcome or specific person, it’s about our process that the entire constitution outlines. What is the matter with you? |
You realize this would not have happened to him if he did not come here illegally right? His own actions caused this. If he would have stayed home, no one would know who he was. You can’t break into a house and get mad when the homeowner hits you with a bat. You took the risk, not suffer the consequences of your actions. |
And there are laws, process and procedure to address it, which this government not only didn’t follow but actively lied about and attempted a coverup. Again, we have laws the government needs to follow. This exact scenario was anticipated so there are written procedures to follow. To use your analogy, you don’t get to then call the police when someone breaks into your home, and the cops send the burglar to another country to be tortured and then lie about it. That should concern everyone. Get your head out of your ass. Who this guy is doesn’t negate the government’s obligation to follow its own laws. |
He was a child whose life was in danger. Please share your family's "breaking into the house" story. Are you even American? |
Come on, PP, give me a break with letting MAGA wash your brain. All we know is that his wife filed protected orders and then rescinded them. His wife has fought tooth and nail to get him back in the country and is standing by him. EVERYTHING ELSE THEY HAVE SAID IS A LIE. Pure falsehood. No, he doesn't have MS-13 tattooed on his hand. No, the trafficking charge was always nonsense. No, he had never even been to the area where the confidential informant - you know, the corrupt guy who was let go? - said he lived while in a gang. Everything is false. He was the primary caretaker of his disabled child. So yes, I do defend his character in as much as he has been innocent of virtually everything that has been thrown at him. And as for the domestic violence claim, wtf do we know about it? It is really rich to talk about this given what Trump has been CONVICTED OF. |
So you’re ok with your daughter needing multiple protective orders, then getting back together with the guy? You’re ok with your Son beating his wife as long as "she forgives him"? WOW |
NP. More deflection. Whether my daughter ever needed multiple protection orders has literally nothing to do with whether the government acted properly here. They are on record lying. They literally sent this man away to be tortured. So the better question is would be ok with your son being sent to a torture prison because he committed misdemeanor domestic violence? No one is condoning violence- and GMAFB never has the GOP, the anti-VAWA party, shown such faux concern for women than they have in the last ten years- but no one should be condoning torture and political harassment as a punishment for it either. |
Why do you folks always present yourselves as some kind of law and order movement and then proceed to &hit on the law whenever possible, every time? Just rebrand as the vigilante justice movement. Based on your reply to the post your reading comprehension could use a little work, too. |
MAGA proves itself to be unAmerican again and again. |
The point, and you know it, is that we have know idea what happened. We do know that everything the government has accused him of is false. And government sponsored retribution and abuse of power is worse than anything an individual might do. But back to you, PP. Since you care so much about women's safety, please explain how you are ok with Trump. |
I think that it’s time that you face the fact the Kilmar is Trump’s Daddy. |