APS Holiday 6/6

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Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.


Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.


I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.


Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.


That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.


I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)


I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.


APS needs to get rid of all the religious holidays. But then have clear notices on calendars that events can't be scheduled on those days to respect people observing them.


So people say this but what would happen if we moved winter break to January and uncoupled it from Christmas. If kids had to go to school on Christmas eve. People would be outraged.


They wouldn’t have to go to school because it would be an excused absence. But, there would be an enormous drop in attendance, making it impossible to have a school day.

I wonder if I moved to a majority Muslim country, could I expect their school systems to shut down for Christian holidays?


Do those countries embrace diversity, multiculturalism and tolerance?

If not, then it isn't a fair comparison.
Christians who move there know what time it is, whereas we welcome people and make room in our society to include their different traditions.


Why are certain religious holidays observed by their name on the APS calendar, but Christmas is not?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.


Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.


I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.


Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.


That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.


I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)


I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.


APS needs to get rid of all the religious holidays. But then have clear notices on calendars that events can't be scheduled on those days to respect people observing them.


So people say this but what would happen if we moved winter break to January and uncoupled it from Christmas. If kids had to go to school on Christmas eve. People would be outraged.


They wouldn’t have to go to school because it would be an excused absence. But, there would be an enormous drop in attendance, making it impossible to have a school day.

I wonder if I moved to a majority Muslim country, could I expect their school systems to shut down for Christian holidays?


Do those countries embrace diversity, multiculturalism and tolerance?

If not, then it isn't a fair comparison.
Christians who move there know what time it is, whereas we welcome people and make room in our society to include their different traditions.


I feel like this story is somewhat relevant: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.


Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.


I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.


Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.


That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.


I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)


I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.


APS needs to get rid of all the religious holidays. But then have clear notices on calendars that events can't be scheduled on those days to respect people observing them.


So people say this but what would happen if we moved winter break to January and uncoupled it from Christmas. If kids had to go to school on Christmas eve. People would be outraged.


They wouldn’t have to go to school because it would be an excused absence. But, there would be an enormous drop in attendance, making it impossible to have a school day.

I wonder if I moved to a majority Muslim country, could I expect their school systems to shut down for Christian holidays?


Do those countries embrace diversity, multiculturalism and tolerance?

If not, then it isn't a fair comparison.
Christians who move there know what time it is, whereas we welcome people and make room in our society to include their different traditions.


Why are certain religious holidays observed by their name on the APS calendar, but Christmas is not?


Huh? It’s winter break. Do you want them to list every single holiday that occurs during time off? Do they need to put Fourth of July, friendship day, grandparents day, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.


Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.


I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.


Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.


That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.


I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)


I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.


APS needs to get rid of all the religious holidays. But then have clear notices on calendars that events can't be scheduled on those days to respect people observing them.


So people say this but what would happen if we moved winter break to January and uncoupled it from Christmas. If kids had to go to school on Christmas eve. People would be outraged.


They wouldn’t have to go to school because it would be an excused absence. But, there would be an enormous drop in attendance, making it impossible to have a school day.

I wonder if I moved to a majority Muslim country, could I expect their school systems to shut down for Christian holidays?


Do those countries embrace diversity, multiculturalism and tolerance?

If not, then it isn't a fair comparison.
Christians who move there know what time it is, whereas we welcome people and make room in our society to include their different traditions.


Why are certain religious holidays observed by their name on the APS calendar, but Christmas is not?


Huh? It’s winter break. Do you want them to list every single holiday that occurs during time off? Do they need to put Fourth of July, friendship day, grandparents day, etc.


Fall break (which lasts 3 school days and includes Thanksgiving day) is referred to as "Thanksgiving holiday".
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.


Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.


I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.


Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.


That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.


I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)


I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.


APS needs to get rid of all the religious holidays. But then have clear notices on calendars that events can't be scheduled on those days to respect people observing them.


So people say this but what would happen if we moved winter break to January and uncoupled it from Christmas. If kids had to go to school on Christmas eve. People would be outraged.


Too many people are at least nominally Christian, so this won't happen until the system is minority Christian.

Oh stop. It's not about Christianity at this point. America has a tradition of scheduling a winter holiday break between Christmas and New Years holidays. This holiday break applies across all Americans. Some celebrate Christmas, others go on vacation or get Chinese takeout and go to a movie. But it's a common holiday week across the country. It's a time for families to get together since pretty much everything shuts down, from schools to kid sports to many offices.

So no, the week for winter break wont change even if the country was no longer majority Christian. It's now part of American culture and aligned across the country.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.


Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.


I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.


Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.


That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.


I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)


I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.


APS needs to get rid of all the religious holidays. But then have clear notices on calendars that events can't be scheduled on those days to respect people observing them.


So people say this but what would happen if we moved winter break to January and uncoupled it from Christmas. If kids had to go to school on Christmas eve. People would be outraged.


Too many people are at least nominally Christian, so this won't happen until the system is minority Christian.

Oh stop. It's not about Christianity at this point. America has a tradition of scheduling a winter holiday break between Christmas and New Years holidays. This holiday break applies across all Americans. Some celebrate Christmas, others go on vacation or get Chinese takeout and go to a movie. But it's a common holiday week across the country. It's a time for families to get together since pretty much everything shuts down, from schools to kid sports to many offices.

So no, the week for winter break wont change even if the country was no longer majority Christian. It's now part of American culture and aligned across the country.


Honestly this is the truth. And people like to slow down at the end of the calendar year. And I actually know people who observe other faiths but decorate for xmas and in some cases even put up a tree. I am not saying this should dictate the school calendar, but it's true that Christmas is part of broader "American culture" at this point.
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Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked parents were able to get the Arlington school board to vote against giving the most extreme accomodation in the name of inclusivity. I mean, you all still had to remain anonymous, but that's some serious progress.


Many people emailed the SB.
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Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked parents were able to get the Arlington school board to vote against giving the most extreme accomodation in the name of inclusivity. I mean, you all still had to remain anonymous, but that's some serious progress.


The cost of closing school was concrete and high - cancelling a fully paid/nonrefundable field trip for hundreds of middle school kids, disrupting graduation scheduling for special needs kids, cancelling dances, possibly missing testing, causing childcare issues for already stressed feds, etc. Meanwhile, keeping school open just means some students and staff take an excused absence. It’s really not a contest for someone looking at it rationally. The troubling thing is that APS staff didn’t stop to think about the collateral impacts. At all. It was clear they did not even consider that their actions have downstream impacts.


This. This should have been a no brainer vote and Duran shouldn't have even suggested it. They are slaves to their own look at me extreme progressive tunnel vision and can't see past their egos to make rational decisions. This is the same issue as the mother raising the issue of a pool patron openly flashing a penis in the women's pool locker room in front of her kids and a Board member (who abstained last night from this vote) blowing her off. It is more important to some of them to a) protect certain people's rights even when there is clear evidence it is harming others and b) have it be abundantly clear to everyone in their echo chamber this is what they are doing.

It's nauseating. And before people harass me, no I'm not MAGA, anti-trans, or a Republican. I'm anti-showing your penis in the women's locker room and anti-canceling events that impact hundreds of kids when people who want to observe a religious holiday can simply take the day off or stay home.


But you’re happy enough to push the RWNJ talking points…
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Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked parents were able to get the Arlington school board to vote against giving the most extreme accomodation in the name of inclusivity. I mean, you all still had to remain anonymous, but that's some serious progress.


The cost of closing school was concrete and high - cancelling a fully paid/nonrefundable field trip for hundreds of middle school kids, disrupting graduation scheduling for special needs kids, cancelling dances, possibly missing testing, causing childcare issues for already stressed feds, etc. Meanwhile, keeping school open just means some students and staff take an excused absence. It’s really not a contest for someone looking at it rationally. The troubling thing is that APS staff didn’t stop to think about the collateral impacts. At all. It was clear they did not even consider that their actions have downstream impacts.


This. This should have been a no brainer vote and Duran shouldn't have even suggested it. They are slaves to their own look at me extreme progressive tunnel vision and can't see past their egos to make rational decisions. This is the same issue as the mother raising the issue of a pool patron openly flashing a penis in the women's pool locker room in front of her kids and a Board member (who abstained last night from this vote) blowing her off. It is more important to some of them to a) protect certain people's rights even when there is clear evidence it is harming others and b) have it be abundantly clear to everyone in their echo chamber this is what they are doing.

It's nauseating. And before people harass me, no I'm not MAGA, anti-trans, or a Republican. I'm anti-showing your penis in the women's locker room and anti-canceling events that impact hundreds of kids when people who want to observe a religious holiday can simply take the day off or stay home.


But you’re happy enough to push the RWNJ talking points…


Dp. If not wanting my dd exposed to a penis in the women’s locker room makes me a RWNJ, then fine, I’m a RWNJ.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.


Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.


I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.


Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.


That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.


I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)


I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.


APS needs to get rid of all the religious holidays. But then have clear notices on calendars that events can't be scheduled on those days to respect people observing them.


So people say this but what would happen if we moved winter break to January and uncoupled it from Christmas. If kids had to go to school on Christmas eve. People would be outraged.


Too many people are at least nominally Christian, so this won't happen until the system is minority Christian.

Oh stop. It's not about Christianity at this point. America has a tradition of scheduling a winter holiday break between Christmas and New Years holidays. This holiday break applies across all Americans. Some celebrate Christmas, others go on vacation or get Chinese takeout and go to a movie. But it's a common holiday week across the country. It's a time for families to get together since pretty much everything shuts down, from schools to kid sports to many offices.

So no, the week for winter break wont change even if the country was no longer majority Christian. It's now part of American culture and aligned across the country.


And psychologically that rest time at the end of the year followed by a fresh new year/new year's resolutions/new start is restorative for a lot of people. New Year's Eve and Day are the last things before we start anew. Many offices/businesses are closed at that time. It is the last time for Federal use or lose leave. Suggesting that APS change traditional winter break feels like an exercise in punishment rather than calendar planning...
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Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked parents were able to get the Arlington school board to vote against giving the most extreme accomodation in the name of inclusivity. I mean, you all still had to remain anonymous, but that's some serious progress.


The cost of closing school was concrete and high - cancelling a fully paid/nonrefundable field trip for hundreds of middle school kids, disrupting graduation scheduling for special needs kids, cancelling dances, possibly missing testing, causing childcare issues for already stressed feds, etc. Meanwhile, keeping school open just means some students and staff take an excused absence. It’s really not a contest for someone looking at it rationally. The troubling thing is that APS staff didn’t stop to think about the collateral impacts. At all. It was clear they did not even consider that their actions have downstream impacts.


This. This should have been a no brainer vote and Duran shouldn't have even suggested it. They are slaves to their own look at me extreme progressive tunnel vision and can't see past their egos to make rational decisions. This is the same issue as the mother raising the issue of a pool patron openly flashing a penis in the women's pool locker room in front of her kids and a Board member (who abstained last night from this vote) blowing her off. It is more important to some of them to a) protect certain people's rights even when there is clear evidence it is harming others and b) have it be abundantly clear to everyone in their echo chamber this is what they are doing.

It's nauseating. And before people harass me, no I'm not MAGA, anti-trans, or a Republican. I'm anti-showing your penis in the women's locker room and anti-canceling events that impact hundreds of kids when people who want to observe a religious holiday can simply take the day off or stay home.


But you’re happy enough to push the RWNJ talking points…


I am the poster you are responding to. I had to google RWNJ. Some of us don't live to exist in the vacuum of blind ideologues that occupy the internet. I'm just out here in the real world with actual people having independent thoughts to form opinions. Not checking in to be sure they're ok with the type of person who calls others "RWNJ". I'd like it if our elected officials could try this approach.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am absolutely shocked parents were able to get the Arlington school board to vote against giving the most extreme accomodation in the name of inclusivity. I mean, you all still had to remain anonymous, but that's some serious progress.


The cost of closing school was concrete and high - cancelling a fully paid/nonrefundable field trip for hundreds of middle school kids, disrupting graduation scheduling for special needs kids, cancelling dances, possibly missing testing, causing childcare issues for already stressed feds, etc. Meanwhile, keeping school open just means some students and staff take an excused absence. It’s really not a contest for someone looking at it rationally. The troubling thing is that APS staff didn’t stop to think about the collateral impacts. At all. It was clear they did not even consider that their actions have downstream impacts.


This. This should have been a no brainer vote and Duran shouldn't have even suggested it. They are slaves to their own look at me extreme progressive tunnel vision and can't see past their egos to make rational decisions. This is the same issue as the mother raising the issue of a pool patron openly flashing a penis in the women's pool locker room in front of her kids and a Board member (who abstained last night from this vote) blowing her off. It is more important to some of them to a) protect certain people's rights even when there is clear evidence it is harming others and b) have it be abundantly clear to everyone in their echo chamber this is what they are doing.

It's nauseating. And before people harass me, no I'm not MAGA, anti-trans, or a Republican. I'm anti-showing your penis in the women's locker room and anti-canceling events that impact hundreds of kids when people who want to observe a religious holiday can simply take the day off or stay home.


But you’re happy enough to push the RWNJ talking points…


I am the poster you are responding to. I had to google RWNJ. Some of us don't live to exist in the vacuum of blind ideologues that occupy the internet. I'm just out here in the real world with actual people having independent thoughts to form opinions. Not checking in to be sure they're ok with the type of person who calls others "RWNJ". I'd like it if our elected officials could try this approach.


Good luck, but not gonna happen. Not in Arlington anyway.
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Why is APS the only nova district considering this nonsense? Others are just as liberal and they didn’t propose adding a day off for a holiday just a few weeks away.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.


Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.


I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.


Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.


That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.


I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)


I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.


APS needs to get rid of all the religious holidays. But then have clear notices on calendars that events can't be scheduled on those days to respect people observing them.


So people say this but what would happen if we moved winter break to January and uncoupled it from Christmas. If kids had to go to school on Christmas eve. People would be outraged.


They wouldn’t have to go to school because it would be an excused absence. But, there would be an enormous drop in attendance, making it impossible to have a school day.

I wonder if I moved to a majority Muslim country, could I expect their school systems to shut down for Christian holidays?


Do those countries embrace diversity, multiculturalism and tolerance?

If not, then it isn't a fair comparison.
Christians who move there know what time it is, whereas we welcome people and make room in our society to include their different traditions.


Why are certain religious holidays observed by their name on the APS calendar, but Christmas is not?


Huh? It’s winter break. Do you want them to list every single holiday that occurs during time off? Do they need to put Fourth of July, friendship day, grandparents day, etc.


Fall break (which lasts 3 school days and includes Thanksgiving day) is referred to as "Thanksgiving holiday".


We don't have Fall Break in APS. We have the Thanksgiving Holiday.
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Anonymous wrote:“Let’s get rid of all of the new religious holidays.”

Same Breath: “That Busdriver should get his day off too.”

Unserious people sowing discord. You got what you wanted. But let’s argue about a done deal for weeks anyway because none of us have a life.


Sounds like you don’t want any momentum to build around changing the policy to floating holidays.


I support the current religious holidays as days off for APS. And lol there's no momentum aside from your complaining on anon boards. Even Miranda said yesterday publicly that this vote wasn't a moratorium on changing the religious holiday policy.


Just wait until APS starts blocking off three consecutive days for each Eid as “possible” days off. Nothing will be allowed to be planned for those days and no one will know until a few weeks in advance which day will be off. Next year it’s the week after Memorial Day and if Eid moves it will be a one day week. People are gonna get sick of this pretty quick.


That’s precisely what was suggested at the meeting last night. Making sure that principals and PTAs knew they would not be able to schedule anything on the days before and after holidays that were dictated by the lunar calendar.


I don't understand the problem with telling schools not to schedule extra things on those few days. Can someone explain it to me?

Both occur at busy times of year and have an alternative (floating holiday/excused absence)


I think keeping those days clear is best. It would really sad for those kids who end up missing out on the end of year activities. It is also a tough position to put a teacher in if this is a holiday they observe and they've also been working with their kids to plan the end of school activity. Planning things a few days earlier or later doesn't seem as challenging to me, but I realize others might have a different view.


APS needs to get rid of all the religious holidays. But then have clear notices on calendars that events can't be scheduled on those days to respect people observing them.


So people say this but what would happen if we moved winter break to January and uncoupled it from Christmas. If kids had to go to school on Christmas eve. People would be outraged.


They wouldn’t have to go to school because it would be an excused absence. But, there would be an enormous drop in attendance, making it impossible to have a school day.

I wonder if I moved to a majority Muslim country, could I expect their school systems to shut down for Christian holidays?


Do those countries embrace diversity, multiculturalism and tolerance?

If not, then it isn't a fair comparison.
Christians who move there know what time it is, whereas we welcome people and make room in our society to include their different traditions.


Why are certain religious holidays observed by their name on the APS calendar, but Christmas is not?


Huh? It’s winter break. Do you want them to list every single holiday that occurs during time off? Do they need to put Fourth of July, friendship day, grandparents day, etc.


Fall break (which lasts 3 school days and includes Thanksgiving day) is referred to as "Thanksgiving holiday".


We don't have Fall Break in APS. We have the Thanksgiving Holiday.


That's my point. See PP that I was responding to. For some reason though, we have "Winter Break" and "Spring Break".
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