Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

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Anonymous wrote:Don't fall for the promise of affordable housing. The "progressives" on the CP ANC actually voted down an amendment to require more affordable housing in up-zoned properties. They're just in the pocket of developers.

Affordable housing is just a red herring from the DC development lobby. It’s really about the development.

So you think it is better to restrict housing in the city and have that income and sales tax go to other jurisdictions?

Is there a current shortage of housing in DC? If so, what kind are we short on? And how would this development address that?
The shortage people face seems to be SFH with room to grow a family, but wouldn't these be more apartments for singles? I don't see any shortage there.

Why it matters: The D.C. metro is short almost 134,000 homes for sale or rent, one of the widest housing gaps in the country, a new Zillow analysis shows.
https://www.axios.com/local/washington-dc/2023/07/01/washington-dc-rent-housing-inventory

In 2019, the Metropolitan Washington Council of Governments issued a report stating that the region needs to add 320,000 more housing units between 2020 and 2030, and that at least 75% of this new housing should be affordable to low- and medium-income households.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-washington-dc-region-needs-more-housing-and-satellite-data-can-tell-us-where-to-build/

There are currently almost 3000 properties for sale in DC proper alone. Plus all the rental properties. There is no housing shortage.

Now, can everyone afford to own in Cleveland Park or Chevy Chase? Of course not. They’re just going to have to work harder and save or change their expectations. Many of us lived in the suburbs and commuted in by transit in our 20s and early 30s to be able to afford to live in nice DC neighborhoods. All these 20 something ANC commissioners who are just out of college with a worthless humanities degree somehow think there is a problem because they cannot afford to buy in CP. Tough luck. Put the time in and pay your dues and move to North Bethesda for a few years. There are no participation trophies in the real estate game.

Please explain how you got from Point A (there are properties for sale in DC) to Point B (therefore there is no housing shortage)?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't fall for the promise of affordable housing. The "progressives" on the CP ANC actually voted down an amendment to require more affordable housing in up-zoned properties. They're just in the pocket of developers.

Affordable housing is just a red herring from the DC development lobby. It’s really about the development.

So you think it is better to restrict housing in the city and have that income and sales tax go to other jurisdictions?

Is there a current shortage of housing in DC? If so, what kind are we short on? And how would this development address that?
The shortage people face seems to be SFH with room to grow a family, but wouldn't these be more apartments for singles? I don't see any shortage there.

Yes, there is a critical shortage of housing, or all kinds, in DC, hence anywhere we can get new units, is a good thing.

There are two houses for sale sitting on just my block. There is nothing critical about this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It appears that Greater Greater Washington and the big development lobbying machine are pulling out all the stops to oppose a historic district in Chevy Chase.

There is no shortage of housing for "Greater Greater Washington and the big development lobbying machine" in your head.

GGW, Cleveland Park Smart Growth, “progressive” ANC members from other areas seem frantic about stopping a Chevy Chase historic district. Why?

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Anonymous wrote:It appears that Greater Greater Washington and the big development lobbying machine are pulling out all the stops to oppose a historic district in Chevy Chase.

There is no shortage of housing for "Greater Greater Washington and the big development lobbying machine" in your head.

GGW, Cleveland Park Smart Growth, “progressive” ANC members from other areas seem frantic about stopping a Chevy Chase historic district. Why?

They don't seem "frantic" to me.

You do seem obsessed with these groups, though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't fall for the promise of affordable housing. The "progressives" on the CP ANC actually voted down an amendment to require more affordable housing in up-zoned properties. They're just in the pocket of developers.

Affordable housing is just a red herring from the DC development lobby. It’s really about the development.

So you think it is better to restrict housing in the city and have that income and sales tax go to other jurisdictions?

Trumpy deflection from addressing the point.

Wouldn't be surprised if the person that keeps using the term "Trumpy" is literally a Trump supporter.

[Anonymous]

Quick Question--drove by the Omni in Woodley Park. What on earth is being built in that huge chasm by Oyster School (while we are speaking of development)? Seems like a lot of 're-development' on CT cooridor, geeze!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Quick Question--drove by the Omni in Woodley Park. What on earth is being built in that huge chasm by Oyster School (while we are speaking of development)? Seems like a lot of 're-development' on CT cooridor, geeze!

Omni is on Calvert. You are referring to the former Wardman Marriot site:

https://dc.urbanturf.com/articles/blog/900-apartments-proposed-for-former-wardman-marriott-site/19189

[Anonymous]

Apparently the beatings will continue at least until next Monday. This ANC should have just ripped the damn band aid off and ended the pain that are meetings here since July. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Quick Question--drove by the Omni in Woodley Park. What on earth is being built in that huge chasm by Oyster School (while we are speaking of development)? Seems like a lot of 're-development' on CT cooridor, geeze!

Omni is on Calvert. You are referring to the former Wardman Marriot site:

https://dc.urbanturf.com/articles/blog/900-apartments-proposed-for-former-wardman-marriott-site/19189

You can see it as you approach the Omni from Calvert. the chasm is massive. How is it that the sentiment persists that there is no housing/development in Ward 3? All is see is housing/development

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the beatings will continue at least until next Monday. This ANC should have just ripped the damn band aid off and ended the pain that are meetings here since July. Ugh.

Which ANC? Some of the “Middle Finger” Connecticut Ave commissioners are involving themselves with Chevy Chase DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Quick Question--drove by the Omni in Woodley Park. What on earth is being built in that huge chasm by Oyster School (while we are speaking of development)? Seems like a lot of 're-development' on CT cooridor, geeze!

Omni is on Calvert. You are referring to the former Wardman Marriot site:

https://dc.urbanturf.com/articles/blog/900-apartments-proposed-for-former-wardman-marriott-site/19189

You can see it as you approach the Omni from Calvert. the chasm is massive. How is it that the sentiment persists that there is no housing/development in Ward 3? All is see is housing/development

It could be developed with more density there. Their iare potential housing units left on the table.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the beatings will continue at least until next Monday. This ANC should have just ripped the damn band aid off and ended the pain that are meetings here since July. Ugh.

Which ANC? Some of the “Middle Finger” Connecticut Ave commissioners are involving themselves with Chevy Chase DC.

It's always been connected. This was part of the trade they made.

[Anonymous]

WTF are you people even talking about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Quick Question--drove by the Omni in Woodley Park. What on earth is being built in that huge chasm by Oyster School (while we are speaking of development)? Seems like a lot of 're-development' on CT cooridor, geeze!

Omni is on Calvert. You are referring to the former Wardman Marriot site:

https://dc.urbanturf.com/articles/blog/900-apartments-proposed-for-former-wardman-marriott-site/19189

You can see it as you approach the Omni from Calvert. the chasm is massive. How is it that the sentiment persists that there is no housing/development in Ward 3? All is see is housing/development

It could be developed with more density there. Their iare potential housing units left on the table.

Zoning wouldn't allow for more density and the city didn't buy it, so it will have a minima amount of affordable housing units. I think the developers lost an opportunity to extend the Woodley Park commercial area up into the property. Oh well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Quick Question--drove by the Omni in Woodley Park. What on earth is being built in that huge chasm by Oyster School (while we are speaking of development)? Seems like a lot of 're-development' on CT cooridor, geeze!

Omni is on Calvert. You are referring to the former Wardman Marriot site:

https://dc.urbanturf.com/articles/blog/900-apartments-proposed-for-former-wardman-marriott-site/19189

You can see it as you approach the Omni from Calvert. the chasm is massive. How is it that the sentiment persists that there is no housing/development in Ward 3? All is see is housing/development

It could be developed with more density there. Their iare potential housing units left on the table.

Zoning wouldn't allow for more density and the city didn't buy it, so it will have a minima amount of affordable housing units. I think the developers lost an opportunity to extend the Woodley Park commercial area up into the property. Oh well.

DC requires only 8 to 10 percent affordable units even in large developments and then is surprised that progress is so incremental. Other cities require more, even much more. But the DC government is so captive to development interests that it is unlikely that it will raise its baseline mandate. So they just seek more and more market rate apartments and condos in the hope that a few more crumbs of affordable housing will trickle down.