Boundaries assessment update 2023

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Anonymous wrote:The basic bargain in Fairfax is we get a bunch of Democrats who are far-left on issues like trans rights and far-right when it comes to school boundaries.

Perfect example is snobby Elaine Tholen, who appointed a trans activist to the FCPS Family Life Committee, but fought to make sure not a single apartment or condo is zoned to Langley High.


The board care deeply about equity as long as the poor kids don't start getting crazy notions about being rezoned to better schools


No one has yet answered the question: who would you zone into Langley to make it 30% FARMS?



Someone already answered your dumb question-its not logistically possible to get to 30%. Maybe 10%.

I am the poster who asked the question. I know you are correct, but there are people on this thread who insist that all schools should be 30%. That is why I asked where they would get the students?

My point is that it is impossible to have the same demographics all across the county.


That’s no excuse for leaving Langley at 3-4% FARMS. That only happens when rich snobs like Elaine Tholen and her predecessors make a concerted effort to keep the school free of low or even middle-income kids.

Otherwise you do not end up with a school where kids get bussed 12 miles to attend the school yet it has no apartments or condos. Meanwhile it borders a series of schools that range from 15% to 50% FARMS.


Then, please tell us how you would make Langley 10% FARMS. Where would you get the students to do that and how would you do it.


There are areas in Reston and Tysons zoned to South Lakes, Marshall, and/or McLean that could be reassigned to Langley and would increase the FARMS % there. And every one of those areas is closer to Langley than the Forestville ES area.


Are these areas closer to Langley than to their current high schools? Would transportation be a problem for them? For their families?


Look at the pocket right on Wiehle zoned to Langley. Those kids could bike to Herndon, but no one seems to have a problem sending them the length of the county to Langley. Why do we only care about bussing when it involves FARMs kids potentially getting zoned to langley?
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They could send more Franklin middle school kids to Oakton, like the Armfield farms area. Parent would complain because Chantilly is closer, but Franklin middle already sends a bunch that way.
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Anonymous wrote:They could send more Franklin middle school kids to Oakton, like the Armfield farms area. Parent would complain because Chantilly is closer, but Franklin middle already sends a bunch that way.


NO! That makes no sense at all. Look at a map.
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Anonymous wrote:They could send more Franklin middle school kids to Oakton, like the Armfield farms area. Parent would complain because Chantilly is closer, but Franklin middle already sends a bunch that way.


Isn't Oakton at capacity? Why would you want to do this?
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Anonymous wrote:The basic bargain in Fairfax is we get a bunch of Democrats who are far-left on issues like trans rights and far-right when it comes to school boundaries.

Perfect example is snobby Elaine Tholen, who appointed a trans activist to the FCPS Family Life Committee, but fought to make sure not a single apartment or condo is zoned to Langley High.


The board care deeply about equity as long as the poor kids don't start getting crazy notions about being rezoned to better schools


No one has yet answered the question: who would you zone into Langley to make it 30% FARMS?



Someone already answered your dumb question-its not logistically possible to get to 30%. Maybe 10%.

I am the poster who asked the question. I know you are correct, but there are people on this thread who insist that all schools should be 30%. That is why I asked where they would get the students?

My point is that it is impossible to have the same demographics all across the county.


That’s no excuse for leaving Langley at 3-4% FARMS. That only happens when rich snobs like Elaine Tholen and her predecessors make a concerted effort to keep the school free of low or even middle-income kids.

Otherwise you do not end up with a school where kids get bussed 12 miles to attend the school yet it has no apartments or condos. Meanwhile it borders a series of schools that range from 15% to 50% FARMS.


Then, please tell us how you would make Langley 10% FARMS. Where would you get the students to do that and how would you do it.


There are areas in Reston and Tysons zoned to South Lakes, Marshall, and/or McLean that could be reassigned to Langley and would increase the FARMS % there. And every one of those areas is closer to Langley than the Forestville ES area.


Are these areas closer to Langley than to their current high schools? Would transportation be a problem for them? For their families?


Look at the pocket right on Wiehle zoned to Langley. Those kids could bike to Herndon, but no one seems to have a problem sending them the length of the county to Langley. Why do we only care about bussing when it involves FARMs kids potentially getting zoned to langley?


That would make a split feeder I think? But, this probably goes back to builder getting the zoning in order to sell houses. FCPS or county must have agreed.
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Anonymous wrote:They could send more Franklin middle school kids to Oakton, like the Armfield farms area. Parent would complain because Chantilly is closer, but Franklin middle already sends a bunch that way.


Isn't Oakton at capacity? Why would you want to do this?


It makes the most sense to alleviate Chantilly.
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Anonymous wrote:They could send more Franklin middle school kids to Oakton, like the Armfield farms area. Parent would complain because Chantilly is closer, but Franklin middle already sends a bunch that way.


NO! That makes no sense at all. Look at a map.


It does make sense. Navy Elementary already sends their AAP kids to Carson or Franklin.
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Anonymous wrote:The basic bargain in Fairfax is we get a bunch of Democrats who are far-left on issues like trans rights and far-right when it comes to school boundaries.

Perfect example is snobby Elaine Tholen, who appointed a trans activist to the FCPS Family Life Committee, but fought to make sure not a single apartment or condo is zoned to Langley High.


The board care deeply about equity as long as the poor kids don't start getting crazy notions about being rezoned to better schools


No one has yet answered the question: who would you zone into Langley to make it 30% FARMS?



Someone already answered your dumb question-its not logistically possible to get to 30%. Maybe 10%.

I am the poster who asked the question. I know you are correct, but there are people on this thread who insist that all schools should be 30%. That is why I asked where they would get the students?

My point is that it is impossible to have the same demographics all across the county.


That’s no excuse for leaving Langley at 3-4% FARMS. That only happens when rich snobs like Elaine Tholen and her predecessors make a concerted effort to keep the school free of low or even middle-income kids.

Otherwise you do not end up with a school where kids get bussed 12 miles to attend the school yet it has no apartments or condos. Meanwhile it borders a series of schools that range from 15% to 50% FARMS.


Then, please tell us how you would make Langley 10% FARMS. Where would you get the students to do that and how would you do it.


There are areas in Reston and Tysons zoned to South Lakes, Marshall, and/or McLean that could be reassigned to Langley and would increase the FARMS % there. And every one of those areas is closer to Langley than the Forestville ES area.


Are these areas closer to Langley than to their current high schools? Would transportation be a problem for them? For their families?


Given Langley’s location in the northeastern corner of the county there aren’t many areas closer to Langley than to another school.

The point was more economically diverse areas could be reassigned to Langley that are closer to Langley than other areas currently zoned to Langley that consist entirely of single-family homes.

The current boundaries make a mockery of the notion that the School Board cares about equity.
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Anonymous wrote:The basic bargain in Fairfax is we get a bunch of Democrats who are far-left on issues like trans rights and far-right when it comes to school boundaries.

Perfect example is snobby Elaine Tholen, who appointed a trans activist to the FCPS Family Life Committee, but fought to make sure not a single apartment or condo is zoned to Langley High.


The board care deeply about equity as long as the poor kids don't start getting crazy notions about being rezoned to better schools


No one has yet answered the question: who would you zone into Langley to make it 30% FARMS?



Someone already answered your dumb question-its not logistically possible to get to 30%. Maybe 10%.

I am the poster who asked the question. I know you are correct, but there are people on this thread who insist that all schools should be 30%. That is why I asked where they would get the students?

My point is that it is impossible to have the same demographics all across the county.


That’s no excuse for leaving Langley at 3-4% FARMS. That only happens when rich snobs like Elaine Tholen and her predecessors make a concerted effort to keep the school free of low or even middle-income kids.

Otherwise you do not end up with a school where kids get bussed 12 miles to attend the school yet it has no apartments or condos. Meanwhile it borders a series of schools that range from 15% to 50% FARMS.


Then, please tell us how you would make Langley 10% FARMS. Where would you get the students to do that and how would you do it.


There are areas in Reston and Tysons zoned to South Lakes, Marshall, and/or McLean that could be reassigned to Langley and would increase the FARMS % there. And every one of those areas is closer to Langley than the Forestville ES area.


Are these areas closer to Langley than to their current high schools? Would transportation be a problem for them? For their families?


Look at the pocket right on Wiehle zoned to Langley. Those kids could bike to Herndon, but no one seems to have a problem sending them the length of the county to Langley. Why do we only care about bussing when it involves FARMs kids potentially getting zoned to langley?


That would make a split feeder I think? But, this probably goes back to builder getting the zoning in order to sell houses. FCPS or county must have agreed.


Sure, just don't talk about busing like it's something that doesn't already occur.
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Anonymous wrote:The basic bargain in Fairfax is we get a bunch of Democrats who are far-left on issues like trans rights and far-right when it comes to school boundaries.

Perfect example is snobby Elaine Tholen, who appointed a trans activist to the FCPS Family Life Committee, but fought to make sure not a single apartment or condo is zoned to Langley High.


The board care deeply about equity as long as the poor kids don't start getting crazy notions about being rezoned to better schools


No one has yet answered the question: who would you zone into Langley to make it 30% FARMS?



Someone already answered your dumb question-its not logistically possible to get to 30%. Maybe 10%.

I am the poster who asked the question. I know you are correct, but there are people on this thread who insist that all schools should be 30%. That is why I asked where they would get the students?

My point is that it is impossible to have the same demographics all across the county.


That’s no excuse for leaving Langley at 3-4% FARMS. That only happens when rich snobs like Elaine Tholen and her predecessors make a concerted effort to keep the school free of low or even middle-income kids.

Otherwise you do not end up with a school where kids get bussed 12 miles to attend the school yet it has no apartments or condos. Meanwhile it borders a series of schools that range from 15% to 50% FARMS.


Then, please tell us how you would make Langley 10% FARMS. Where would you get the students to do that and how would you do it.


There are areas in Reston and Tysons zoned to South Lakes, Marshall, and/or McLean that could be reassigned to Langley and would increase the FARMS % there. And every one of those areas is closer to Langley than the Forestville ES area.


Are these areas closer to Langley than to their current high schools? Would transportation be a problem for them? For their families?


Look at the pocket right on Wiehle zoned to Langley. Those kids could bike to Herndon, but no one seems to have a problem sending them the length of the county to Langley. Why do we only care about bussing when it involves FARMs kids potentially getting zoned to langley?


That would make a split feeder I think? But, this probably goes back to builder getting the zoning in order to sell houses. FCPS or county must have agreed.


Sure, just don't talk about busing like it's something that doesn't already occur.


This shows how little some people understand about the issues with the communities that are struggling. Here are some reasons not to do this:

1. Truancy is already a huge problem--especially among the poor students. Miss the bus? They will not get to school that day.
2. Have an afterschool job? Sure send the kids far away and prevent this.
3. Help out with younger siblings after school? (pretty common among high school kids) Good luck with that.
4. Need to talk to the parents? That's already pretty difficult. Just add a thirty minute commute to the problem.
5. Want the kids to participate in after school activities? Sure there are activity buses--but not convenient.

Whoever thinks that sending kids from Reston or Herndon to Langley need to spend some time with the people they are so "concerned" about. I taught in the projects. I doubt many people on this thread have any idea of the issues these families deal with.

But, the biggest problem will be truancy. And it is already a huge problem with these communities.
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Anonymous wrote:They could send more Franklin middle school kids to Oakton, like the Armfield farms area. Parent would complain because Chantilly is closer, but Franklin middle already sends a bunch that way.


All the kids that go from Franklin to Oakton are on the north/west side of Fairfax County Parkway. The ones suggested here are south/east.

Love how people are happy to reassign kids when they have no idea of the neighborhoods and locations and traffic.

But, in any case, isn't Oakton full?
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Anonymous wrote:The basic bargain in Fairfax is we get a bunch of Democrats who are far-left on issues like trans rights and far-right when it comes to school boundaries.

Perfect example is snobby Elaine Tholen, who appointed a trans activist to the FCPS Family Life Committee, but fought to make sure not a single apartment or condo is zoned to Langley High.


The board care deeply about equity as long as the poor kids don't start getting crazy notions about being rezoned to better schools


No one has yet answered the question: who would you zone into Langley to make it 30% FARMS?



Someone already answered your dumb question-its not logistically possible to get to 30%. Maybe 10%.

I am the poster who asked the question. I know you are correct, but there are people on this thread who insist that all schools should be 30%. That is why I asked where they would get the students?

My point is that it is impossible to have the same demographics all across the county.


That’s no excuse for leaving Langley at 3-4% FARMS. That only happens when rich snobs like Elaine Tholen and her predecessors make a concerted effort to keep the school free of low or even middle-income kids.

Otherwise you do not end up with a school where kids get bussed 12 miles to attend the school yet it has no apartments or condos. Meanwhile it borders a series of schools that range from 15% to 50% FARMS.


Then, please tell us how you would make Langley 10% FARMS. Where would you get the students to do that and how would you do it.


There are areas in Reston and Tysons zoned to South Lakes, Marshall, and/or McLean that could be reassigned to Langley and would increase the FARMS % there. And every one of those areas is closer to Langley than the Forestville ES area.


Are these areas closer to Langley than to their current high schools? Would transportation be a problem for them? For their families?


Look at the pocket right on Wiehle zoned to Langley. Those kids could bike to Herndon, but no one seems to have a problem sending them the length of the county to Langley. Why do we only care about bussing when it involves FARMs kids potentially getting zoned to langley?


That would make a split feeder I think? But, this probably goes back to builder getting the zoning in order to sell houses. FCPS or county must have agreed.


Sure, just don't talk about busing like it's something that doesn't already occur.


This shows how little some people understand about the issues with the communities that are struggling. Here are some reasons not to do this:

1. Truancy is already a huge problem--especially among the poor students. Miss the bus? They will not get to school that day.
2. Have an afterschool job? Sure send the kids far away and prevent this.
3. Help out with younger siblings after school? (pretty common among high school kids) Good luck with that.
4. Need to talk to the parents? That's already pretty difficult. Just add a thirty minute commute to the problem.
5. Want the kids to participate in after school activities? Sure there are activity buses--but not convenient.

Whoever thinks that sending kids from Reston or Herndon to Langley need to spend some time with the people they are so "concerned" about. I taught in the projects. I doubt many people on this thread have any idea of the issues these families deal with.

But, the biggest problem will be truancy. And it is already a huge problem with these communities.


Got it, bussing is ok to make sure that rich kids can attend good schools, but not ok if it means poor kids attending good schools. It's probably also not ok to send rich kids to poor school, but your reasons only assume to apply to poor kids
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Anonymous wrote:The basic bargain in Fairfax is we get a bunch of Democrats who are far-left on issues like trans rights and far-right when it comes to school boundaries.

Perfect example is snobby Elaine Tholen, who appointed a trans activist to the FCPS Family Life Committee, but fought to make sure not a single apartment or condo is zoned to Langley High.


The board care deeply about equity as long as the poor kids don't start getting crazy notions about being rezoned to better schools


No one has yet answered the question: who would you zone into Langley to make it 30% FARMS?



Someone already answered your dumb question-its not logistically possible to get to 30%. Maybe 10%.

I am the poster who asked the question. I know you are correct, but there are people on this thread who insist that all schools should be 30%. That is why I asked where they would get the students?

My point is that it is impossible to have the same demographics all across the county.


That’s no excuse for leaving Langley at 3-4% FARMS. That only happens when rich snobs like Elaine Tholen and her predecessors make a concerted effort to keep the school free of low or even middle-income kids.

Otherwise you do not end up with a school where kids get bussed 12 miles to attend the school yet it has no apartments or condos. Meanwhile it borders a series of schools that range from 15% to 50% FARMS.


Then, please tell us how you would make Langley 10% FARMS. Where would you get the students to do that and how would you do it.


There are areas in Reston and Tysons zoned to South Lakes, Marshall, and/or McLean that could be reassigned to Langley and would increase the FARMS % there. And every one of those areas is closer to Langley than the Forestville ES area.


Are these areas closer to Langley than to their current high schools? Would transportation be a problem for them? For their families?


Look at the pocket right on Wiehle zoned to Langley. Those kids could bike to Herndon, but no one seems to have a problem sending them the length of the county to Langley. Why do we only care about bussing when it involves FARMs kids potentially getting zoned to langley?


That would make a split feeder I think? But, this probably goes back to builder getting the zoning in order to sell houses. FCPS or county must have agreed.


Sure, just don't talk about busing like it's something that doesn't already occur.


This shows how little some people understand about the issues with the communities that are struggling. Here are some reasons not to do this:

1. Truancy is already a huge problem--especially among the poor students. Miss the bus? They will not get to school that day.
2. Have an afterschool job? Sure send the kids far away and prevent this.
3. Help out with younger siblings after school? (pretty common among high school kids) Good luck with that.
4. Need to talk to the parents? That's already pretty difficult. Just add a thirty minute commute to the problem.
5. Want the kids to participate in after school activities? Sure there are activity buses--but not convenient.

Whoever thinks that sending kids from Reston or Herndon to Langley need to spend some time with the people they are so "concerned" about. I taught in the projects. I doubt many people on this thread have any idea of the issues these families deal with.

But, the biggest problem will be truancy. And it is already a huge problem with these communities.


Got it, bussing is ok to make sure that rich kids can attend good schools, but not ok if it means poor kids attending good schools. It's probably also not ok to send rich kids to poor school, but your reasons only assume to apply to poor kids

What makes a good school vs a poor school?
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Anonymous wrote:The basic bargain in Fairfax is we get a bunch of Democrats who are far-left on issues like trans rights and far-right when it comes to school boundaries.

Perfect example is snobby Elaine Tholen, who appointed a trans activist to the FCPS Family Life Committee, but fought to make sure not a single apartment or condo is zoned to Langley High.


The board care deeply about equity as long as the poor kids don't start getting crazy notions about being rezoned to better schools


No one has yet answered the question: who would you zone into Langley to make it 30% FARMS?



I was responding to the prior reason--which was to get FARMS at Langley.

How much time have you spent working with students in extreme poverty.

And, if you cannot understand the difference between people who are able to transport their kids and those who cannot, then you have a lot to learn.

My personal opinion: ALL kids should go to the closest school. Sometimes that does not work--expecially when there is a school like Langley which is on the northeast corner of the county. What do you think it would accomplish? I'll tell you what it would accomplishROPOUTS.

Someone already answered your dumb question-its not logistically possible to get to 30%. Maybe 10%.

I am the poster who asked the question. I know you are correct, but there are people on this thread who insist that all schools should be 30%. That is why I asked where they would get the students?

My point is that it is impossible to have the same demographics all across the county.


That’s no excuse for leaving Langley at 3-4% FARMS. That only happens when rich snobs like Elaine Tholen and her predecessors make a concerted effort to keep the school free of low or even middle-income kids.

Otherwise you do not end up with a school where kids get bussed 12 miles to attend the school yet it has no apartments or condos. Meanwhile it borders a series of schools that range from 15% to 50% FARMS.


Then, please tell us how you would make Langley 10% FARMS. Where would you get the students to do that and how would you do it.


There are areas in Reston and Tysons zoned to South Lakes, Marshall, and/or McLean that could be reassigned to Langley and would increase the FARMS % there. And every one of those areas is closer to Langley than the Forestville ES area.


Are these areas closer to Langley than to their current high schools? Would transportation be a problem for them? For their families?


Look at the pocket right on Wiehle zoned to Langley. Those kids could bike to Herndon, but no one seems to have a problem sending them the length of the county to Langley. Why do we only care about bussing when it involves FARMs kids potentially getting zoned to langley?


That would make a split feeder I think? But, this probably goes back to builder getting the zoning in order to sell houses. FCPS or county must have agreed.


Sure, just don't talk about busing like it's something that doesn't already occur.


This shows how little some people understand about the issues with the communities that are struggling. Here are some reasons not to do this:

1. Truancy is already a huge problem--especially among the poor students. Miss the bus? They will not get to school that day.
2. Have an afterschool job? Sure send the kids far away and prevent this.
3. Help out with younger siblings after school? (pretty common among high school kids) Good luck with that.
4. Need to talk to the parents? That's already pretty difficult. Just add a thirty minute commute to the problem.
5. Want the kids to participate in after school activities? Sure there are activity buses--but not convenient.

Whoever thinks that sending kids from Reston or Herndon to Langley need to spend some time with the people they are so "concerned" about. I taught in the projects. I doubt many people on this thread have any idea of the issues these families deal with.

But, the biggest problem will be truancy. And it is already a huge problem with these communities.


Got it, bussing is ok to make sure that rich kids can attend good schools, but not ok if it means poor kids attending good schools. It's probably also not ok to send rich kids to poor school, but your reasons only assume to apply to poor kids
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Anonymous wrote:The basic bargain in Fairfax is we get a bunch of Democrats who are far-left on issues like trans rights and far-right when it comes to school boundaries.

Perfect example is snobby Elaine Tholen, who appointed a trans activist to the FCPS Family Life Committee, but fought to make sure not a single apartment or condo is zoned to Langley High.


The board care deeply about equity as long as the poor kids don't start getting crazy notions about being rezoned to better schools


No one has yet answered the question: who would you zone into Langley to make it 30% FARMS?



I was responding to the prior reason--which was to get FARMS at Langley.

How much time have you spent working with students in extreme poverty.

And, if you cannot understand the difference between people who are able to transport their kids and those who cannot, then you have a lot to learn.

My personal opinion: ALL kids should go to the closest school. Sometimes that does not work--expecially when there is a school like Langley which is on the northeast corner of the county. What do you think it would accomplish? I'll tell you what it would accomplishROPOUTS.

Someone already answered your dumb question-its not logistically possible to get to 30%. Maybe 10%.

I am the poster who asked the question. I know you are correct, but there are people on this thread who insist that all schools should be 30%. That is why I asked where they would get the students?

My point is that it is impossible to have the same demographics all across the county.


That’s no excuse for leaving Langley at 3-4% FARMS. That only happens when rich snobs like Elaine Tholen and her predecessors make a concerted effort to keep the school free of low or even middle-income kids.

Otherwise you do not end up with a school where kids get bussed 12 miles to attend the school yet it has no apartments or condos. Meanwhile it borders a series of schools that range from 15% to 50% FARMS.


Then, please tell us how you would make Langley 10% FARMS. Where would you get the students to do that and how would you do it.


There are areas in Reston and Tysons zoned to South Lakes, Marshall, and/or McLean that could be reassigned to Langley and would increase the FARMS % there. And every one of those areas is closer to Langley than the Forestville ES area.


Are these areas closer to Langley than to their current high schools? Would transportation be a problem for them? For their families?


Look at the pocket right on Wiehle zoned to Langley. Those kids could bike to Herndon, but no one seems to have a problem sending them the length of the county to Langley. Why do we only care about bussing when it involves FARMs kids potentially getting zoned to langley?


That would make a split feeder I think? But, this probably goes back to builder getting the zoning in order to sell houses. FCPS or county must have agreed.


Sure, just don't talk about busing like it's something that doesn't already occur.


This shows how little some people understand about the issues with the communities that are struggling. Here are some reasons not to do this:

1. Truancy is already a huge problem--especially among the poor students. Miss the bus? They will not get to school that day.
2. Have an afterschool job? Sure send the kids far away and prevent this.
3. Help out with younger siblings after school? (pretty common among high school kids) Good luck with that.
4. Need to talk to the parents? That's already pretty difficult. Just add a thirty minute commute to the problem.
5. Want the kids to participate in after school activities? Sure there are activity buses--but not convenient.

Whoever thinks that sending kids from Reston or Herndon to Langley need to spend some time with the people they are so "concerned" about. I taught in the projects. I doubt many people on this thread have any idea of the issues these families deal with.

But, the biggest problem will be truancy. And it is already a huge problem with these communities.


Got it, bussing is ok to make sure that rich kids can attend good schools, but not ok if it means poor kids attending good schools. It's probably also not ok to send rich kids to poor school, but your reasons only assume to apply to poor kids


Misformatted my prior response:
I was responding to the prior reason--which was to get FARMS at Langley.

How much time have you spent working with students in extreme poverty?

And, if you cannot understand the difference between people who are able to transport their kids and those who cannot, then you have a lot to learn.

My personal opinion: ALL kids should go to the closest school. Sometimes that does not work--especially when there is a school like Langley which is on the northeast corner of the county. What do you think it would accomplish? I'll tell you what it would accomplish: DROPOUTS.



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