Will Ozempic and other drugs like it eliminate obesity?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think anyone who is not obese will be upset that people lost weight taking a drug. I think the PP constantly posting about this has a mental health problem and is imagining this.

If the drugs are safe and widely available they could have a huge positive ripple effect. Obesity is a horrible health condition and costs the US $$$ in health care spending. If we return to a state where obesity is uncommon and people are not seeking out huge portions or a constant supply of high fat, high carb foods then the restaurant and food industry will respond to the changing demand with smaller normal portions.

I’m the PP with the friend who posted above. There are multiple people in this thread posting about how angry some posters are about the availability of the drug (and that anger is clearly visible; your denial of that is odd). I posted about how therapists are responding and there were other posts that weren’t mine. However, given that therapists in the field are currently having professional discussions about how to help patients address their profound anger, jealousy, and resentment about the existence of these drugs and other people taking them, I’d say that you are also in denial about how widespread and common that response is.

You might want to reflect on why it’s so important to you to deny reality.

That is not reality. I don’t know what more to tell you. People fabricate things on anonymous forums all the time. Do you really think heathy weight people are seeking therapy bc they are distraught and jealous over these meds, or talking about their imaginary anger toward them in work break rooms? I have no doubt these are made up posts. No one does this or is even thinking about them. If not for these threads I wouldn’t even be aware these meds exist. Please stop wasting energy thinking anyone cares if you take them

Oh okay, so we’re just lying. That’s a great argument!

No one cares about your meds. Get over the paranoia

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think anyone who is not obese will be upset that people lost weight taking a drug. I think the PP constantly posting about this has a mental health problem and is imagining this.

If the drugs are safe and widely available they could have a huge positive ripple effect. Obesity is a horrible health condition and costs the US $$$ in health care spending. If we return to a state where obesity is uncommon and people are not seeking out huge portions or a constant supply of high fat, high carb foods then the restaurant and food industry will respond to the changing demand with smaller normal portions.

I’m the PP with the friend who posted above. There are multiple people in this thread posting about how angry some posters are about the availability of the drug (and that anger is clearly visible; your denial of that is odd). I posted about how therapists are responding and there were other posts that weren’t mine. However, given that therapists in the field are currently having professional discussions about how to help patients address their profound anger, jealousy, and resentment about the existence of these drugs and other people taking them, I’d say that you are also in denial about how widespread and common that response is.

You might want to reflect on why it’s so important to you to deny reality.

That is not reality. I don’t know what more to tell you. People fabricate things on anonymous forums all the time. Do you really think heathy weight people are seeking therapy bc they are distraught and jealous over these meds, or talking about their imaginary anger toward them in work break rooms? I have no doubt these are made up posts. No one does this or is even thinking about them. If not for these threads I wouldn’t even be aware these meds exist. Please stop wasting energy thinking anyone cares if you take them

Well, given that I have a real-life friend with a real-life therapist who is talking to real-life other therapists about this specific issue, I’m going to believe them, over an angry anonymous online poster like you. You are correct that people make up things online, and your increasingly-desperate-sounding insistence that the anger is “made up” goes into the category of made-up things online for me. I’m going to stick with what I see in my real life to reach my conclusions, thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think anyone who is not obese will be upset that people lost weight taking a drug. I think the PP constantly posting about this has a mental health problem and is imagining this.

If the drugs are safe and widely available they could have a huge positive ripple effect. Obesity is a horrible health condition and costs the US $$$ in health care spending. If we return to a state where obesity is uncommon and people are not seeking out huge portions or a constant supply of high fat, high carb foods then the restaurant and food industry will respond to the changing demand with smaller normal portions.

I’m the PP with the friend who posted above. There are multiple people in this thread posting about how angry some posters are about the availability of the drug (and that anger is clearly visible; your denial of that is odd). I posted about how therapists are responding and there were other posts that weren’t mine. However, given that therapists in the field are currently having professional discussions about how to help patients address their profound anger, jealousy, and resentment about the existence of these drugs and other people taking them, I’d say that you are also in denial about how widespread and common that response is.

You might want to reflect on why it’s so important to you to deny reality.

That is not reality. I don’t know what more to tell you. People fabricate things on anonymous forums all the time. Do you really think heathy weight people are seeking therapy bc they are distraught and jealous over these meds, or talking about their imaginary anger toward them in work break rooms? I have no doubt these are made up posts. No one does this or is even thinking about them. If not for these threads I wouldn’t even be aware these meds exist. Please stop wasting energy thinking anyone cares if you take them

Oh okay, so we’re just lying. That’s a great argument!

No one cares about your meds. Get over the paranoia

LOL I see thin people have a new thing to gaslight fat people about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think anyone who is not obese will be upset that people lost weight taking a drug. I think the PP constantly posting about this has a mental health problem and is imagining this.

If the drugs are safe and widely available they could have a huge positive ripple effect. Obesity is a horrible health condition and costs the US $$$ in health care spending. If we return to a state where obesity is uncommon and people are not seeking out huge portions or a constant supply of high fat, high carb foods then the restaurant and food industry will respond to the changing demand with smaller normal portions.

I’m the PP with the friend who posted above. There are multiple people in this thread posting about how angry some posters are about the availability of the drug (and that anger is clearly visible; your denial of that is odd). I posted about how therapists are responding and there were other posts that weren’t mine. However, given that therapists in the field are currently having professional discussions about how to help patients address their profound anger, jealousy, and resentment about the existence of these drugs and other people taking them, I’d say that you are also in denial about how widespread and common that response is.

You might want to reflect on why it’s so important to you to deny reality.

That is not reality. I don’t know what more to tell you. People fabricate things on anonymous forums all the time. Do you really think heathy weight people are seeking therapy bc they are distraught and jealous over these meds, or talking about their imaginary anger toward them in work break rooms? I have no doubt these are made up posts. No one does this or is even thinking about them. If not for these threads I wouldn’t even be aware these meds exist. Please stop wasting energy thinking anyone cares if you take them

Well, given that I have a real-life friend with a real-life therapist who is talking to real-life other therapists about this specific issue, I’m going to believe them, over an angry anonymous online poster like you. You are correct that people make up things online, and your increasingly-desperate-sounding insistence that the anger is “made up” goes into the category of made-up things online for me. I’m going to stick with what I see in my real life to reach my conclusions, thanks.

Your version of real life is not majority of people. I know zero people talking about this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think anyone who is not obese will be upset that people lost weight taking a drug. I think the PP constantly posting about this has a mental health problem and is imagining this.

If the drugs are safe and widely available they could have a huge positive ripple effect. Obesity is a horrible health condition and costs the US $$$ in health care spending. If we return to a state where obesity is uncommon and people are not seeking out huge portions or a constant supply of high fat, high carb foods then the restaurant and food industry will respond to the changing demand with smaller normal portions.

I’m the PP with the friend who posted above. There are multiple people in this thread posting about how angry some posters are about the availability of the drug (and that anger is clearly visible; your denial of that is odd). I posted about how therapists are responding and there were other posts that weren’t mine. However, given that therapists in the field are currently having professional discussions about how to help patients address their profound anger, jealousy, and resentment about the existence of these drugs and other people taking them, I’d say that you are also in denial about how widespread and common that response is.

You might want to reflect on why it’s so important to you to deny reality.

That is not reality. I don’t know what more to tell you. People fabricate things on anonymous forums all the time. Do you really think heathy weight people are seeking therapy bc they are distraught and jealous over these meds, or talking about their imaginary anger toward them in work break rooms? I have no doubt these are made up posts. No one does this or is even thinking about them. If not for these threads I wouldn’t even be aware these meds exist. Please stop wasting energy thinking anyone cares if you take them

Well, given that I have a real-life friend with a real-life therapist who is talking to real-life other therapists about this specific issue, I’m going to believe them, over an angry anonymous online poster like you. You are correct that people make up things online, and your increasingly-desperate-sounding insistence that the anger is “made up” goes into the category of made-up things online for me. I’m going to stick with what I see in my real life to reach my conclusions, thanks.

Your version of real life is not majority of people. I know zero people talking about this

It is fascinating how you think your personal experience is definitive and speaks for the majority of people, but you consider other people’s experiences to be reflective of just them and not a larger experience. I am not a therapist but that seems to indicate some classic narcissistic tendencies on your part. Narcissistic people conflate their personal experience with what everybody else is experiencing.

Also, given your posts here, there is no way anyone considering the drug or taking it would ever open up to you. You would never have a friend be as honest with you as my friend has been with me. So, I am not surprised you know zero people talking about this, but that’s actually a rather ugly reflection on who you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP with no skin in the game who hasn’t thought much about this. I’ve read every page and I have to admit no one has provided any evidence that diet and exercise is an effective weight loss strategy. Your smokingest guns are “I know people who have lost weight” and “Look at Jennifer Hudson”

I’m more inclined to believe the “diet and exercise isn’t helping us be less fat” as they seem to have at least some science on their side…and it is true that public health messaging has been pushing diet and exercise for like 40 years and obesity is just getting worse. It makes sense to move away from that and try something else.

Diet and exercise absolutely do work when used long term to prevent becoming overweight or to lose small amounts of weight. The problem is the average person doesn’t implement any semblance of a heathy diet and doesn’t exercise, therefore the average person is now overweight or obese. So I guess we are at a point in society where the average person will eat garbage day in day out until they are are fat enough to be obese and have weight related health problems, then they get a script for meds to lose some pounds. I mean, I guess this is better than remaining obese forever for the people that can actually get a script, but this isn’t an awesome way to live either.

+1

It's not really a secret what is going on here.

Every fat person I know says that they have "tried everything." They show up to work with a massive Big Gulp of Mountain Dew. They get a large meat lovers pizza for lunch. Work out today? Nahhh, maybe tomorrow. And the next day they hit up McDonalds for a large value meal. Too lazy to walk inside so they sit in the drive thru line that is wrapped around the building. If these people are "trying" to lose weight, it's a half ass effort at best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think anyone who is not obese will be upset that people lost weight taking a drug. I think the PP constantly posting about this has a mental health problem and is imagining this.

If the drugs are safe and widely available they could have a huge positive ripple effect. Obesity is a horrible health condition and costs the US $$$ in health care spending. If we return to a state where obesity is uncommon and people are not seeking out huge portions or a constant supply of high fat, high carb foods then the restaurant and food industry will respond to the changing demand with smaller normal portions.

I’m the PP with the friend who posted above. There are multiple people in this thread posting about how angry some posters are about the availability of the drug (and that anger is clearly visible; your denial of that is odd). I posted about how therapists are responding and there were other posts that weren’t mine. However, given that therapists in the field are currently having professional discussions about how to help patients address their profound anger, jealousy, and resentment about the existence of these drugs and other people taking them, I’d say that you are also in denial about how widespread and common that response is.

You might want to reflect on why it’s so important to you to deny reality.

That is not reality. I don’t know what more to tell you. People fabricate things on anonymous forums all the time. Do you really think heathy weight people are seeking therapy bc they are distraught and jealous over these meds, or talking about their imaginary anger toward them in work break rooms? I have no doubt these are made up posts. No one does this or is even thinking about them. If not for these threads I wouldn’t even be aware these meds exist. Please stop wasting energy thinking anyone cares if you take them

Guys, I think everyone should stop engaging the unstable Ozempic lady. She has resorted to batshit crazy theories about how skinny people aren't special anymore or that it's a blow to our identity that obese people can now become thin. She thinks that we are lashing out and upset. It's obvious something isn't right. She basically diagnoses anyone who disagrees with her as having some type of mental disorder, as if she knows what she is talking about. Dr. Phil 2.0

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP with no skin in the game who hasn’t thought much about this. I’ve read every page and I have to admit no one has provided any evidence that diet and exercise is an effective weight loss strategy. Your smokingest guns are “I know people who have lost weight” and “Look at Jennifer Hudson”

I’m more inclined to believe the “diet and exercise isn’t helping us be less fat” as they seem to have at least some science on their side…and it is true that public health messaging has been pushing diet and exercise for like 40 years and obesity is just getting worse. It makes sense to move away from that and try something else.

Diet and exercise absolutely do work when used long term to prevent becoming overweight or to lose small amounts of weight. The problem is the average person doesn’t implement any semblance of a heathy diet and doesn’t exercise, therefore the average person is now overweight or obese. So I guess we are at a point in society where the average person will eat garbage day in day out until they are are fat enough to be obese and have weight related health problems, then they get a script for meds to lose some pounds. I mean, I guess this is better than remaining obese forever for the people that can actually get a script, but this isn’t an awesome way to live either.

+1

It's not really a secret what is going on here.

Every fat person I know says that they have "tried everything." They show up to work with a massive Big Gulp of Mountain Dew. They get a large meat lovers pizza for lunch. Work out today? Nahhh, maybe tomorrow. And the next day they hit up McDonalds for a large value meal. Too lazy to walk inside so they sit in the drive thru line that is wrapped around the building. If these people are "trying" to lose weight, it's a half ass effort at best.

OMG you are a fool. I don't drink soda or eat large pizzas. I work out, I'm actually very strong. But I'm still overweight (not obese, just firmly overweight). Every plan I've tried wants me to eat 1200 calories. I'm only 5'0". Its not sustainable long term.

It's difficult. I don't begrudge anyone who uses medication to assist them with maintaining the loss. I wish them all long term success.

- NP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP with no skin in the game who hasn’t thought much about this. I’ve read every page and I have to admit no one has provided any evidence that diet and exercise is an effective weight loss strategy. Your smokingest guns are “I know people who have lost weight” and “Look at Jennifer Hudson”

I’m more inclined to believe the “diet and exercise isn’t helping us be less fat” as they seem to have at least some science on their side…and it is true that public health messaging has been pushing diet and exercise for like 40 years and obesity is just getting worse. It makes sense to move away from that and try something else.

Diet and exercise absolutely do work when used long term to prevent becoming overweight or to lose small amounts of weight. The problem is the average person doesn’t implement any semblance of a heathy diet and doesn’t exercise, therefore the average person is now overweight or obese. So I guess we are at a point in society where the average person will eat garbage day in day out until they are are fat enough to be obese and have weight related health problems, then they get a script for meds to lose some pounds. I mean, I guess this is better than remaining obese forever for the people that can actually get a script, but this isn’t an awesome way to live either.

+1

It's not really a secret what is going on here.

Every fat person I know says that they have "tried everything." They show up to work with a massive Big Gulp of Mountain Dew. They get a large meat lovers pizza for lunch. Work out today? Nahhh, maybe tomorrow. And the next day they hit up McDonalds for a large value meal. Too lazy to walk inside so they sit in the drive thru line that is wrapped around the building. If these people are "trying" to lose weight, it's a half ass effort at best.

It’s good that they’ll have these drugs to help them lose weight then so we can finally get control of the obesity crisis then!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think anyone who is not obese will be upset that people lost weight taking a drug. I think the PP constantly posting about this has a mental health problem and is imagining this.

If the drugs are safe and widely available they could have a huge positive ripple effect. Obesity is a horrible health condition and costs the US $$$ in health care spending. If we return to a state where obesity is uncommon and people are not seeking out huge portions or a constant supply of high fat, high carb foods then the restaurant and food industry will respond to the changing demand with smaller normal portions.

I’m the PP with the friend who posted above. There are multiple people in this thread posting about how angry some posters are about the availability of the drug (and that anger is clearly visible; your denial of that is odd). I posted about how therapists are responding and there were other posts that weren’t mine. However, given that therapists in the field are currently having professional discussions about how to help patients address their profound anger, jealousy, and resentment about the existence of these drugs and other people taking them, I’d say that you are also in denial about how widespread and common that response is.

You might want to reflect on why it’s so important to you to deny reality.

That is not reality. I don’t know what more to tell you. People fabricate things on anonymous forums all the time. Do you really think heathy weight people are seeking therapy bc they are distraught and jealous over these meds, or talking about their imaginary anger toward them in work break rooms? I have no doubt these are made up posts. No one does this or is even thinking about them. If not for these threads I wouldn’t even be aware these meds exist. Please stop wasting energy thinking anyone cares if you take them

Guys, I think everyone should stop engaging the unstable Ozempic lady. She has resorted to batshit crazy theories about how skinny people aren't special anymore or that it's a blow to our identity that obese people can now become thin. She thinks that we are lashing out and upset. It's obvious something isn't right. She basically diagnoses anyone who disagrees with her as having some type of mental disorder, as if she knows what she is talking about. Dr. Phil 2.0

Agree. It’s like she/he/they are in an alternate universe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP with no skin in the game who hasn’t thought much about this. I’ve read every page and I have to admit no one has provided any evidence that diet and exercise is an effective weight loss strategy. Your smokingest guns are “I know people who have lost weight” and “Look at Jennifer Hudson”

I’m more inclined to believe the “diet and exercise isn’t helping us be less fat” as they seem to have at least some science on their side…and it is true that public health messaging has been pushing diet and exercise for like 40 years and obesity is just getting worse. It makes sense to move away from that and try something else.

Diet and exercise absolutely do work when used long term to prevent becoming overweight or to lose small amounts of weight. The problem is the average person doesn’t implement any semblance of a heathy diet and doesn’t exercise, therefore the average person is now overweight or obese. So I guess we are at a point in society where the average person will eat garbage day in day out until they are are fat enough to be obese and have weight related health problems, then they get a script for meds to lose some pounds. I mean, I guess this is better than remaining obese forever for the people that can actually get a script, but this isn’t an awesome way to live either.

+1

It's not really a secret what is going on here.

Every fat person I know says that they have "tried everything." They show up to work with a massive Big Gulp of Mountain Dew. They get a large meat lovers pizza for lunch. Work out today? Nahhh, maybe tomorrow. And the next day they hit up McDonalds for a large value meal. Too lazy to walk inside so they sit in the drive thru line that is wrapped around the building. If these people are "trying" to lose weight, it's a half ass effort at best.

OMG you are a fool. I don't drink soda or eat large pizzas. I work out, I'm actually very strong. But I'm still overweight (not obese, just firmly overweight). Every plan I've tried wants me to eat 1200 calories. I'm only 5'0". Its not sustainable long term.

It's difficult. I don't begrudge anyone who uses medication to assist them with maintaining the loss. I wish them all long term success.

- NP

Workout for 30 minutes to burn 300 calories and eat 1,500. That's sustainable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think anyone who is not obese will be upset that people lost weight taking a drug. I think the PP constantly posting about this has a mental health problem and is imagining this.

If the drugs are safe and widely available they could have a huge positive ripple effect. Obesity is a horrible health condition and costs the US $$$ in health care spending. If we return to a state where obesity is uncommon and people are not seeking out huge portions or a constant supply of high fat, high carb foods then the restaurant and food industry will respond to the changing demand with smaller normal portions.

I’m the PP with the friend who posted above. There are multiple people in this thread posting about how angry some posters are about the availability of the drug (and that anger is clearly visible; your denial of that is odd). I posted about how therapists are responding and there were other posts that weren’t mine. However, given that therapists in the field are currently having professional discussions about how to help patients address their profound anger, jealousy, and resentment about the existence of these drugs and other people taking them, I’d say that you are also in denial about how widespread and common that response is.

You might want to reflect on why it’s so important to you to deny reality.

That is not reality. I don’t know what more to tell you. People fabricate things on anonymous forums all the time. Do you really think heathy weight people are seeking therapy bc they are distraught and jealous over these meds, or talking about their imaginary anger toward them in work break rooms? I have no doubt these are made up posts. No one does this or is even thinking about them. If not for these threads I wouldn’t even be aware these meds exist. Please stop wasting energy thinking anyone cares if you take them

Guys, I think everyone should stop engaging the unstable Ozempic lady. She has resorted to batshit crazy theories about how skinny people aren't special anymore or that it's a blow to our identity that obese people can now become thin. She thinks that we are lashing out and upset. It's obvious something isn't right. She basically diagnoses anyone who disagrees with her as having some type of mental disorder, as if she knows what she is talking about. Dr. Phil 2.0

Agree. The Ozempic lady is too far gone. Name calling and asking Jeff to delete posts that call her out or upset her.

Hope the people who need the drug get it (although I do think it will highlight health care disparities and not everyone who needs it will get it) and glad I don't need it because other methods to maintain a healthy weight work for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP with no skin in the game who hasn’t thought much about this. I’ve read every page and I have to admit no one has provided any evidence that diet and exercise is an effective weight loss strategy. Your smokingest guns are “I know people who have lost weight” and “Look at Jennifer Hudson”

I’m more inclined to believe the “diet and exercise isn’t helping us be less fat” as they seem to have at least some science on their side…and it is true that public health messaging has been pushing diet and exercise for like 40 years and obesity is just getting worse. It makes sense to move away from that and try something else.

Diet and exercise absolutely do work when used long term to prevent becoming overweight or to lose small amounts of weight. The problem is the average person doesn’t implement any semblance of a heathy diet and doesn’t exercise, therefore the average person is now overweight or obese. So I guess we are at a point in society where the average person will eat garbage day in day out until they are are fat enough to be obese and have weight related health problems, then they get a script for meds to lose some pounds. I mean, I guess this is better than remaining obese forever for the people that can actually get a script, but this isn’t an awesome way to live either.

+1

It's not really a secret what is going on here.

Every fat person I know says that they have "tried everything." They show up to work with a massive Big Gulp of Mountain Dew. They get a large meat lovers pizza for lunch. Work out today? Nahhh, maybe tomorrow. And the next day they hit up McDonalds for a large value meal. Too lazy to walk inside so they sit in the drive thru line that is wrapped around the building. If these people are "trying" to lose weight, it's a half ass effort at best.

OMG you are a fool. I don't drink soda or eat large pizzas. I work out, I'm actually very strong. But I'm still overweight (not obese, just firmly overweight). Every plan I've tried wants me to eat 1200 calories. I'm only 5'0". Its not sustainable long term.

It's difficult. I don't begrudge anyone who uses medication to assist them with maintaining the loss. I wish them all long term success.

- NP

Workout for 30 minutes to burn 300 calories and eat 1,500. That's sustainable.

It’s not. My body would not tolerate only 1200 calories per day. I’d be too hungry.

[Anonymous]

It’s wild how riled up people get about this. I was an obese child, teen, and young adult. When I finished school, I learned how to cook, shifted to mostly healthy meals, took up exercise, and got down to a normal weight. I kept it off with regular exercise and generally healthy eating for 15 years. Am obese again in my late-30s after two kids but slowly losing again through diet and exercise. All that being said, I don’t begrudge anyone who chooses to take these meds to lose weight. The end result is they will no longer be at risk for any number of diseases, society will be healthier, we all win. I’m sure some portion could lose without the meds if they were more focused on diet and exercise and I’m sure some couldn’t due to genetic factors science doesn’t yet understand. Why should it matter to me if I lose from working out (something I also enjoy and have time for) and they lose with the help of meds? It doesn’t impact my life at all, more power to them. The anger, blame, accusations of laziness, etc fueling 30+ pages of this thread is insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP with no skin in the game who hasn’t thought much about this. I’ve read every page and I have to admit no one has provided any evidence that diet and exercise is an effective weight loss strategy. Your smokingest guns are “I know people who have lost weight” and “Look at Jennifer Hudson”

I’m more inclined to believe the “diet and exercise isn’t helping us be less fat” as they seem to have at least some science on their side…and it is true that public health messaging has been pushing diet and exercise for like 40 years and obesity is just getting worse. It makes sense to move away from that and try something else.

Diet and exercise absolutely do work when used long term to prevent becoming overweight or to lose small amounts of weight. The problem is the average person doesn’t implement any semblance of a heathy diet and doesn’t exercise, therefore the average person is now overweight or obese. So I guess we are at a point in society where the average person will eat garbage day in day out until they are are fat enough to be obese and have weight related health problems, then they get a script for meds to lose some pounds. I mean, I guess this is better than remaining obese forever for the people that can actually get a script, but this isn’t an awesome way to live either.

+1

It's not really a secret what is going on here.

Every fat person I know says that they have "tried everything." They show up to work with a massive Big Gulp of Mountain Dew. They get a large meat lovers pizza for lunch. Work out today? Nahhh, maybe tomorrow. And the next day they hit up McDonalds for a large value meal. Too lazy to walk inside so they sit in the drive thru line that is wrapped around the building. If these people are "trying" to lose weight, it's a half ass effort at best.

It’s good that they’ll have these drugs to help them lose weight then so we can finally get control of the obesity crisis then!

Yeah, PP, you should tell them about these medications, it will totally cut the desire fir pizza and big gulps! Win win!