Trying to understand Nicola Peltz Beckham

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The big tell that Nicola wrote Brooklyn’s screed is the weird bit about his parents trying to insert people from his past back into their life. First, he dated these girls ages ago, not particularly seriously and mostly when he was a minor. One of them he met because she was good friends with his brother; why would it be weird she’s still in the Beckhams’ outer orbit (enough to be invited to one party, which was the alleged sin). More importantly though, there is no way that some 27 year old kid is obsessing over whether his family living in another country very occasionally socializes with his long ago exes. Like, the aren’t bringing them around him — the women in question literally live in England! On the other hand, this is textbook the sort of thing that a controlling wife would fixate on to prove his family’s conspiracy against her. Like it’s actually insane. And obviously her.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, can we stop pretending that David and Victoria Beckham are some paragon of class and propriety?

Really?

They're tacky, grasping weirdos. Second only to the Kardashians in their fakeness. Valuable brand my ass. Maybe across the pond, but not in the US.

You can say what you want by they are worth $600 million dollars. That seems valuable to me.

David Beckham’s move to the MLS and parlay of his stint at LA Galaxy into a new MLS franchise practically for free and then turning that franchise into the second most valuable (worth over $1 billion) in a few years is insane. I am sure his advisors are responsible for putting a lot of it together, but he ticked the boxes to meet the conditions that were within his control, he got Mas on board for funding, he convinced Messi to come and worked with the league to craft the deal. He’s notoriously super involved with running the team and they just won the MLS Cup and had the highest revenue of any team last year (near $200 million). Like… he did not just trip into wealth from his also incredibly successful football career.

Victoria Beckham is a notorious workaholic who has also had 2 incredibly successful careers.

The are the opposite of nepo layabouts.

What a load of nonsense. Yeah yeah and Martha Stewart and Beyoncé are geniuses too. You people are so easily duped.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, can we stop pretending that David and Victoria Beckham are some paragon of class and propriety?

Really?

They're tacky, grasping weirdos. Second only to the Kardashians in their fakeness. Valuable brand my ass. Maybe across the pond, but not in the US.

You can say what you want by they are worth $600 million dollars. That seems valuable to me.

David Beckham’s move to the MLS and parlay of his stint at LA Galaxy into a new MLS franchise practically for free and then turning that franchise into the second most valuable (worth over $1 billion) in a few years is insane. I am sure his advisors are responsible for putting a lot of it together, but he ticked the boxes to meet the conditions that were within his control, he got Mas on board for funding, he convinced Messi to come and worked with the league to craft the deal. He’s notoriously super involved with running the team and they just won the MLS Cup and had the highest revenue of any team last year (near $200 million). Like… he did not just trip into wealth from his also incredibly successful football career.

Victoria Beckham is a notorious workaholic who has also had 2 incredibly successful careers.

The are the opposite of nepo layabouts.

What a load of nonsense. Yeah yeah and Martha Stewart and Beyoncé are geniuses too. You people are so easily duped.

I mean, yes, Martha Stewart and Beyoncé are also examples of incredibly hard workers who have business savvy. I don’t have as good a sense of how much is them personally vs the ability to pick savvy advisers (the Beckham franchise story was the subject of a fantastic Athletic piece recently), but even the latter is typically not dumb luck.

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^^ And if you don’t think Beckham personally played a role in landing Messi… well, you are absolutely dead wrong by literally all accounts of how it went down.

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Anonymous wrote:I think when a man gets married he generally tends to side with his wife's side. My ds is not even married, his girlfriend is lovely but I see it already. Her side is favored. We're easy going people so it's fine, but I imagine if I were more of a dramatic, diva person who liked things my way, there'd be major clashing over things, little slights can become mountains and resentment accumulates. Now throw in billionaire tantrums and expectations, immaturity, social media and public interest and it's a perfect storm for a huge mess of a situation.

Is her side favored or is she the one who does all the planning for gifts, visits, phone calls, etc.

+1. Many men hate talking, planning, etc. And they are so conflict avoidant they would rather not raise something to their mom and skip a visit altogether than have an actual conversation about an issue (which may not even be a huge issue- something like "Hey DW is allergic to your dog and can't stay overnight there unless you board the dog.")

It's not like either of them are working. They aren't like you, living paycheck to paycheck. They have nothing else to do but hang out with their parents who foot all the bills.

Who are you replying to and what are you even talking about?

Who are you? Are you suggesting these two unemployed layabouts favored one side over the other because of all the work that goes into maintaining a relationship? As if they are too busy?

I think someone made an OT post about DILs generally favoring their own families and others chimed in saying it may look like that but the sons have agency too. I don't think anyone has compared their financial situation to the Peltz Beckhams.

Comparing them to other couples and the division of labor/mental load implies that they are somehow like normal couples. They aren't at all. Buying gifts and making phone calls are things stressed out people who have limited means and time worry about. That doesn't apply to this couple at all.

That wasn't the point. The point was daughters usually favor their own birth families and if in laws are unhappy about it, they should blame their sons for not doing more to maintain a relationship rather than blame their daughter in law.

Do you really think it is Brooklyn who has been fretting about a wedding dress for 4 years?

You still don't get it, do you?

You’re the only one pushing this weird point. Let it go.

Lol, says the person who keeps replying.

Multiple people have replied even the Op who said you missed the point.

Who are you talking to? The person who doesn't get it or the multiple people trying to explain

Maybe take a break. You seem overwhelmed.

Honey put down the wine glass. You are telling at a wall.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, can we stop pretending that David and Victoria Beckham are some paragon of class and propriety?

Really?

They're tacky, grasping weirdos. Second only to the Kardashians in their fakeness. Valuable brand my ass. Maybe across the pond, but not in the US.

You can say what you want by they are worth $600 million dollars. That seems valuable to me.

David Beckham’s move to the MLS and parlay of his stint at LA Galaxy into a new MLS franchise practically for free and then turning that franchise into the second most valuable (worth over $1 billion) in a few years is insane. I am sure his advisors are responsible for putting a lot of it together, but he ticked the boxes to meet the conditions that were within his control, he got Mas on board for funding, he convinced Messi to come and worked with the league to craft the deal. He’s notoriously super involved with running the team and they just won the MLS Cup and had the highest revenue of any team last year (near $200 million). Like… he did not just trip into wealth from his also incredibly successful football career.

Victoria Beckham is a notorious workaholic who has also had 2 incredibly successful careers.

The are the opposite of nepo layabouts.

Unfortunately the apple fell far from the tree with their son.

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Nicola dated that Hadid kid too, right? He was several years younger and became isolated from his family.

Seems like she has a script.

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Anonymous wrote:I think when a man gets married he generally tends to side with his wife's side. My ds is not even married, his girlfriend is lovely but I see it already. Her side is favored. We're easy going people so it's fine, but I imagine if I were more of a dramatic, diva person who liked things my way, there'd be major clashing over things, little slights can become mountains and resentment accumulates. Now throw in billionaire tantrums and expectations, immaturity, social media and public interest and it's a perfect storm for a huge mess of a situation.

Is her side favored or is she the one who does all the planning for gifts, visits, phone calls, etc.

+1. Many men hate talking, planning, etc. And they are so conflict avoidant they would rather not raise something to their mom and skip a visit altogether than have an actual conversation about an issue (which may not even be a huge issue- something like "Hey DW is allergic to your dog and can't stay overnight there unless you board the dog.")

It's not like either of them are working. They aren't like you, living paycheck to paycheck. They have nothing else to do but hang out with their parents who foot all the bills.

Who are you replying to and what are you even talking about?

Who are you? Are you suggesting these two unemployed layabouts favored one side over the other because of all the work that goes into maintaining a relationship? As if they are too busy?

I think someone made an OT post about DILs generally favoring their own families and others chimed in saying it may look like that but the sons have agency too. I don't think anyone has compared their financial situation to the Peltz Beckhams.

Comparing them to other couples and the division of labor/mental load implies that they are somehow like normal couples. They aren't at all. Buying gifts and making phone calls are things stressed out people who have limited means and time worry about. That doesn't apply to this couple at all.

That wasn't the point. The point was daughters usually favor their own birth families and if in laws are unhappy about it, they should blame their sons for not doing more to maintain a relationship rather than blame their daughter in law.

Do you really think it is Brooklyn who has been fretting about a wedding dress for 4 years?

You still don't get it, do you?

You’re the only one pushing this weird point. Let it go.

Lol, says the person who keeps replying.

Multiple people have replied even the Op who said you missed the point.

Who are you talking to? The person who doesn't get it or the multiple people trying to explain

Maybe take a break. You seem overwhelmed.

Honey put down the wine glass. You are telling at a wall.

Lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nicola dated that Hadid kid too, right? He was several years younger and became isolated from his family.

Seems like she has a script.

We usually consider that the script of a domestic abuser.

[Anonymous]

How many famous couples have normal kids? I give them more props than these people. Maybe the Ripa's and Wahlberg kids? Or are they not wealthy enough?

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Anonymous wrote:The big tell that Nicola wrote Brooklyn’s screed is the weird bit about his parents trying to insert people from his past back into their life. First, he dated these girls ages ago, not particularly seriously and mostly when he was a minor. One of them he met because she was good friends with his brother; why would it be weird she’s still in the Beckhams’ outer orbit (enough to be invited to one party, which was the alleged sin). More importantly though, there is no way that some 27 year old kid is obsessing over whether his family living in another country very occasionally socializes with his long ago exes. Like, the aren’t bringing them around him — the women in question literally live in England! On the other hand, this is textbook the sort of thing that a controlling wife would fixate on to prove his family’s conspiracy against her. Like it’s actually insane. And obviously her.

I don't follow this closely, but I think the issue is that Brooklyn's ex is/was dating his brother, and his parents didn't see/saw that as a huge red grifter flag when they should have. Whoever that chick is or was, she was probably after $$$. Why would anyone hop from brother to brother unless $$$?

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Brooklyn has about a 100 tattoos that relate to Nicola. He has her portrait on his arm, pictures of her dead relatives he never even met. His wedding vows on this arm, the word married on his hand, her name on his hand, her mother's rosary beads....and dozens and dozens more. Something aint right!

Also on reddit there is a woman who says she waitressed in a restaurant that Nicola and Brooklyn frequented and she said Nicola was horrible to all of them. Brooklyn didn't join in but smirked and laughed while she was being nasty or difficult or refusing to follow requests (like to keep her dog on the floor and off the booth seats and table).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, can we stop pretending that David and Victoria Beckham are some paragon of class and propriety?

Really?

They're tacky, grasping weirdos. Second only to the Kardashians in their fakeness. Valuable brand my ass. Maybe across the pond, but not in the US.

You can say what you want by they are worth $600 million dollars. That seems valuable to me.

David Beckham’s move to the MLS and parlay of his stint at LA Galaxy into a new MLS franchise practically for free and then turning that franchise into the second most valuable (worth over $1 billion) in a few years is insane. I am sure his advisors are responsible for putting a lot of it together, but he ticked the boxes to meet the conditions that were within his control, he got Mas on board for funding, he convinced Messi to come and worked with the league to craft the deal. He’s notoriously super involved with running the team and they just won the MLS Cup and had the highest revenue of any team last year (near $200 million). Like… he did not just trip into wealth from his also incredibly successful football career.

Victoria Beckham is a notorious workaholic who has also had 2 incredibly successful careers.

The are the opposite of nepo layabouts.

They let nannies raise their kids, and then the kids turned out to be duds. They'll be lucky if even one goes to college. Being so focused on careers, professional accomplishments, your "brand," etc. comes at a cost. They should have made their kids get real educations and make their trust funds dependent on getting a degree. But that would have required focusing on someone other than themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:The big tell that Nicola wrote Brooklyn’s screed is the weird bit about his parents trying to insert people from his past back into their life. First, he dated these girls ages ago, not particularly seriously and mostly when he was a minor. One of them he met because she was good friends with his brother; why would it be weird she’s still in the Beckhams’ outer orbit (enough to be invited to one party, which was the alleged sin). More importantly though, there is no way that some 27 year old kid is obsessing over whether his family living in another country very occasionally socializes with his long ago exes. Like, the aren’t bringing them around him — the women in question literally live in England! On the other hand, this is textbook the sort of thing that a controlling wife would fixate on to prove his family’s conspiracy against her. Like it’s actually insane. And obviously her.

I don't follow this closely, but I think the issue is that Brooklyn's ex is/was dating his brother, and his parents didn't see/saw that as a huge red grifter flag when they should have. Whoever that chick is or was, she was probably after $$$. Why would anyone hop from brother to brother unless $$$?

If you followed a little more closely you'd know there is no dating of exes. Brooklyn is complaining about former friends who say they absolutely did not date him.

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Anonymous wrote: How many famous couples have normal kids? I give them more props than these people. Maybe the Ripa's and Wahlberg kids? Or are they not wealthy enough?

There are tons of celeb kids we just hear absolutely nothing about. Donnie Wahlberg has two sons. One is at or went to Berklee and I don't know what the older one did/does. Reese Witherspoon's two oldest kids do universities- Ava graduated from Berkeley and Deacon is at NYU. What does Malia Obama do? She graduated from Harvard and has some writing credits but none since 2023. Sasha graduated from USC in 2023 but ... does she have a job? Rob Lowe's kids - we only ever hear about John Owen bc he's an actor. I think the other one is a lawyer. I think Ben and Jen G's three kids are pretty normal and we never hear about the youngest two, only Violet the oldest. But Ben has talked about how his son has asked for expensive sneakers and Ben has asked how the kid plans to pay for them bc he won't.