Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

[Anonymous]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/

According to this, Tony Oronato’s actions that day are of great interest to the committee. And Pence knew not to trust certain agents that day.

It’s very strange for a USS member to become political staff also.

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Anonymous wrote:And, the plot thickens......

So that guy is going to be on Fox tomorrow saying she was lying and then go before the committee and swear to it? If he comes out publicly, the committee will have to swear him and hear him.

But if he doesn’t…. If it’s just “I know a guy who knows a guy who said she was lying…” then I’m believing the witness today.

If the committee won't allow him to testify, the writing is on the wall. Ten bucks they say something like "he testified or will testify in private". No WAY they are allowing the American people to hear it.

The only person who can claim she is lying is Tony Ornato. The person who told her the story. I'd love for them to ask him some questions and see his communications.

The American people can hear it now. All he has to do is go on Fox News and say she’s lying. There is nothing illegal or keeping him from going public.

Does Fox News swear people in?

God, no! But it would give him a platform and then the committee would absolutely call him.

That’s what an honest man would do. Scream from every podium until he could give sworn testimony. Wouldn’t you?

Sure, unless I was worried about perjuring myself. If he gave one story to the committee and then went on TV to give another, well. One of the statements would be a lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/

According to this, Tony Oronato’s actions that day are of great interest to the committee. And Pence knew not to trust certain agents that day.

It’s very strange for a USS member to become political staff also.

OMG, too funny. This committee is going to hang themselves (theoretically of course)

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/

According to this, Tony Oronato’s actions that day are of great interest to the committee. And Pence knew not to trust certain agents that day.

It’s very strange for a USS member to become political staff also.

Extremely odd.

Also he lied about another witness’s testimony regarding LaFayette square. It’s interesting for sure how much rests on this guy’s knowledge and actions. But to be sure, if he isn’t truthful, it will all come out anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/

According to this, Tony Oronato’s actions that day are of great interest to the committee. And Pence knew not to trust certain agents that day.

It’s very strange for a USS member to become political staff also.

Extremely odd.

Also he lied about another witness’s testimony regarding LaFayette square. It’s interesting for sure how much rests on this guy’s knowledge and actions. But to be sure, if he isn’t truthful, it will all come out anyway.

Aren’t there two other people stating she lied as well?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/

According to this, Tony Oronato’s actions that day are of great interest to the committee. And Pence knew not to trust certain agents that day.

It’s very strange for a USS member to become political staff also.

Extremely odd.

Also he lied about another witness’s testimony regarding LaFayette square. It’s interesting for sure how much rests on this guy’s knowledge and actions. But to be sure, if he isn’t truthful, it will all come out anyway.

Aren’t there two other people stating she lied as well?

No. There is a report from an anonymous source. Not even names attached, much less sworn testimony. She had no reason to make it up. It’s not even the important part of her testimony.


I think the most important part of her testimony is the bit about him knowing the crowd was armed and heading to the Capitol, the part about him knowing they were chanting for the death of the VP, and his own subsequent statements about the VP. They guy was trying to overthrow the election with violence. The end.

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Anonymous wrote:Engel did speak to the committee, per this story from a couple weeks ago:

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/08/trump-raised-jan-6-capitol-appearance-secret-service-agent-select-panel-00038217

And said he and Trump disagreed on whether they should go to the Capitol after the speech.

Seems unlikely the committee would have had her tell that crazy-sounding tale if they didn't have corroboration from some other source.

He's allowed to go to the Capitol after a speech

He's not allowed to lead a violent mob to try to overthrow the government, genius.
At the time he was trying to go to the Capitol, the violent Trump mob had breached the Capitol.

That's speculation. He very well could have wanted to go to witness things firsthand and see if he could calm it down.

I would love to know who shat their pants when that popped up there.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/

According to this, Tony Oronato’s actions that day are of great interest to the committee. And Pence knew not to trust certain agents that day.

It’s very strange for a USS member to become political staff also.

Extremely odd.

Also he lied about another witness’s testimony regarding LaFayette square. It’s interesting for sure how much rests on this guy’s knowledge and actions. But to be sure, if he isn’t truthful, it will all come out anyway.

Aren’t there two other people stating she lied as well?

No. There is a report from an anonymous source. Not even names attached, much less sworn testimony. She had no reason to make it up. It’s not even the important part of her testimony.


I think the most important part of her testimony is the bit about him knowing the crowd was armed and heading to the Capitol, the part about him knowing they were chanting for the death of the VP, and his own subsequent statements about the VP. They guy was trying to overthrow the election with violence. The end.

+1 And adding this from the CoS before Meadows.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/

According to this, Tony Oronato’s actions that day are of great interest to the committee. And Pence knew not to trust certain agents that day.

It’s very strange for a USS member to become political staff also.

Extremely odd.

Also he lied about another witness’s testimony regarding LaFayette square. It’s interesting for sure how much rests on this guy’s knowledge and actions. But to be sure, if he isn’t truthful, it will all come out anyway.

Aren’t there two other people stating she lied as well?

No. There is a report from an anonymous source. Not even names attached, much less sworn testimony. She had no reason to make it up. It’s not even the important part of her testimony.


I think the most important part of her testimony is the bit about him knowing the crowd was armed and heading to the Capitol, the part about him knowing they were chanting for the death of the VP, and his own subsequent statements about the VP. They guy was trying to overthrow the election with violence. The end.

I don’t think that’s right. There were definitely two others, one named, the other the limo driver. If one part of her testimony is in question by SS, then the rest can’t be trusted either. Furthermore, they would have arrested Trump long ago on solid evidence, if they had it. The committee would not be necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:If one part of her testimony is in question by SS, then the rest can’t be trusted either.

Remember that Trump lied about his inauguration numbers.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/

According to this, Tony Oronato’s actions that day are of great interest to the committee. And Pence knew not to trust certain agents that day.

It’s very strange for a USS member to become political staff also.

Extremely odd.

Also he lied about another witness’s testimony regarding LaFayette square. It’s interesting for sure how much rests on this guy’s knowledge and actions. But to be sure, if he isn’t truthful, it will all come out anyway.

Aren’t there two other people stating she lied as well?

No. There is a report from an anonymous source. Not even names attached, much less sworn testimony. She had no reason to make it up. It’s not even the important part of her testimony.


I think the most important part of her testimony is the bit about him knowing the crowd was armed and heading to the Capitol, the part about him knowing they were chanting for the death of the VP, and his own subsequent statements about the VP. They guy was trying to overthrow the election with violence. The end.

I don’t think that’s right. There were definitely two others, one named, the other the limo driver. If one part of her testimony is in question by SS, then the rest can’t be trusted either. Furthermore, they would have arrested Trump long ago on solid evidence, if they had it. The committee would not be necessary.

No. Her testimony was that Ornato told her that story in front of Engel.

[Anonymous]

Then let these people get sworn in under oath and testify that that never happened and that they never told her that it happened. Maybe they made up a story but either way she seems extremely credible and if I were the Republicans I would be paying some close attention.
I don't think charges will ever actually come because for some reason they never seem to

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/

According to this, Tony Oronato’s actions that day are of great interest to the committee. And Pence knew not to trust certain agents that day.

It’s very strange for a USS member to become political staff also.

Extremely odd.

Also he lied about another witness’s testimony regarding LaFayette square. It’s interesting for sure how much rests on this guy’s knowledge and actions. But to be sure, if he isn’t truthful, it will all come out anyway.

Aren’t there two other people stating she lied as well?

No. There is a report from an anonymous source. Not even names attached, much less sworn testimony. She had no reason to make it up. It’s not even the important part of her testimony.


I think the most important part of her testimony is the bit about him knowing the crowd was armed and heading to the Capitol, the part about him knowing they were chanting for the death of the VP, and his own subsequent statements about the VP. They guy was trying to overthrow the election with violence. The end.

I don’t think that’s right. There were definitely two others, one named, the other the limo driver. If one part of her testimony is in question by SS, then the rest can’t be trusted either. Furthermore, they would have arrested Trump long ago on solid evidence, if they had it. The committee would not be necessary.

Lol sure!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/

According to this, Tony Oronato’s actions that day are of great interest to the committee. And Pence knew not to trust certain agents that day.

It’s very strange for a USS member to become political staff also.

Extremely odd.

Also he lied about another witness’s testimony regarding LaFayette square. It’s interesting for sure how much rests on this guy’s knowledge and actions. But to be sure, if he isn’t truthful, it will all come out anyway.

Aren’t there two other people stating she lied as well?

No. There is a report from an anonymous source. Not even names attached, much less sworn testimony. She had no reason to make it up. It’s not even the important part of her testimony.


I think the most important part of her testimony is the bit about him knowing the crowd was armed and heading to the Capitol, the part about him knowing they were chanting for the death of the VP, and his own subsequent statements about the VP. They guy was trying to overthrow the election with violence. The end.

I don’t think that’s right. There were definitely two others, one named, the other the limo driver. If one part of her testimony is in question by SS, then the rest can’t be trusted either. Furthermore, they would have arrested Trump long ago on solid evidence, if they had it. The committee would not be necessary.

No. Her testimony was that Ornato told her that story in front of Engel.

And Engel and the limo driver, and Ornato say no and all are willing to testify under oath.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/

According to this, Tony Oronato’s actions that day are of great interest to the committee. And Pence knew not to trust certain agents that day.

It’s very strange for a USS member to become political staff also.

Extremely odd.

Also he lied about another witness’s testimony regarding LaFayette square. It’s interesting for sure how much rests on this guy’s knowledge and actions. But to be sure, if he isn’t truthful, it will all come out anyway.

Aren’t there two other people stating she lied as well?

No. There is a report from an anonymous source. Not even names attached, much less sworn testimony. She had no reason to make it up. It’s not even the important part of her testimony.


I think the most important part of her testimony is the bit about him knowing the crowd was armed and heading to the Capitol, the part about him knowing they were chanting for the death of the VP, and his own subsequent statements about the VP. They guy was trying to overthrow the election with violence. The end.

I don’t think that’s right. There were definitely two others, one named, the other the limo driver. If one part of her testimony is in question by SS, then the rest can’t be trusted either. Furthermore, they would have arrested Trump long ago on solid evidence, if they had it. The committee would not be necessary.

In your delusional MAGA dreams. The steering wheel story is not her story. She told what Ornato told her. If it was embellished, he did it, not her. She is very precise in relating what people said. That skill is why she was important in the White House. Half of her job was accurately telling her boss what other people said and telling other people what her boss said. She was not an embellisher. She is careful with her words. She was surrounded by liars in the White House.