Biden strikes out with King Manchin

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Well Manchin told colleagues he thinks his constituents will spend child tax credit money on drugs, so he has a dim view of them himself.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-manchin-build-back-better-child-tax-credit-drugs_n_61bf8f6be4b061afe394006d?gxj

In recent months, Manchin has told several of his fellow Democrats that he thought parents would waste monthly child tax credit payments on drugs instead of providing for their children, according to two sources familiar with the senator’s comments.

Continuing the child tax credit for another year is a core part of the Build Back Better legislation that Democrats had hoped to pass by the end of the year. The policy has already cut child poverty by nearly 30%.

Manchin’s private comments shocked several senators, who saw it as an unfair assault on his own constituents and those struggling to raise children in poverty.

Manchin has also told colleagues he believes that Americans would fraudulently use the proposed paid sick leave policy, specifically saying people would feign being sick and go on hunting trips, a source familiar with his comments told HuffPost.

I'll believe that when I hear it from Manchin's lips. Not believing a HuffPo story using only anonymous sources.

Yeah, right. Like Manchin is going to state this publicly.

They had 2 different sources confirm it. I believe it. Sounds absolutely legit that someone as wealthy and out of touch as Manchin would have such an opinion of his constituents. Why else would he ignore the overwhelming public approval of the BBB among West Virginians?

You are so out of touch on this forum. I am from WV. He’s right, and trying to fight the opioid crisis is a huge issue back home. His constituents won’t be offended at all, they want their family members to stop dying of overdoses.

Also, 74 percent of WVians oppose BBB. What overwhelming majority?

Who f’ing cares? Manchin got 290,510 votes. He got 49.6% of the vote. 80 million people voted for Biden. Under 1% of the voters can veto the other 99%. You think this is a workable system? No it is not.

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Well Manchin told colleagues he thinks his constituents will spend child tax credit money on drugs, so he has a dim view of them himself.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-manchin-build-back-better-child-tax-credit-drugs_n_61bf8f6be4b061afe394006d?gxj

In recent months, Manchin has told several of his fellow Democrats that he thought parents would waste monthly child tax credit payments on drugs instead of providing for their children, according to two sources familiar with the senator’s comments.

Continuing the child tax credit for another year is a core part of the Build Back Better legislation that Democrats had hoped to pass by the end of the year. The policy has already cut child poverty by nearly 30%.

Manchin’s private comments shocked several senators, who saw it as an unfair assault on his own constituents and those struggling to raise children in poverty.

Manchin has also told colleagues he believes that Americans would fraudulently use the proposed paid sick leave policy, specifically saying people would feign being sick and go on hunting trips, a source familiar with his comments told HuffPost.

I'll believe that when I hear it from Manchin's lips. Not believing a HuffPo story using only anonymous sources.

Yeah, right. Like Manchin is going to state this publicly.

They had 2 different sources confirm it. I believe it. Sounds absolutely legit that someone as wealthy and out of touch as Manchin would have such an opinion of his constituents. Why else would he ignore the overwhelming public approval of the BBB among West Virginians?

You are so out of touch on this forum. I am from WV. He’s right, and trying to fight the opioid crisis is a huge issue back home. His constituents won’t be offended at all, they want their family members to stop dying of overdoses.

Also, 74 percent of WVians oppose BBB. What overwhelming majority?

Who f’ing cares? Manchin got 290,510 votes. He got 49.6% of the vote. 80 million people voted for Biden. Under 1% of the voters can veto the other 99%. You think this is a workable system? No it is not.

Wow. You pull these numbers out thinking they prove something.
No, 1% are not "vetoing" 99%. Not even close. Your critical thinking is so f'ed up.

There are states full of people who are very much opposed to this stupid bill. Funny how you didn't include all those people. And, judging from the approval rating of Biden, I would guess a good number of those 81 million are also opposed to this bill.

There are at least 51 Senators opposed to this bill. Probably more who are not speaking up because they don't want the treatment the left is giving to Manchin.

Keep it up. The further you push Manchin........

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Well Manchin told colleagues he thinks his constituents will spend child tax credit money on drugs, so he has a dim view of them himself.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-manchin-build-back-better-child-tax-credit-drugs_n_61bf8f6be4b061afe394006d?gxj

In recent months, Manchin has told several of his fellow Democrats that he thought parents would waste monthly child tax credit payments on drugs instead of providing for their children, according to two sources familiar with the senator’s comments.

Continuing the child tax credit for another year is a core part of the Build Back Better legislation that Democrats had hoped to pass by the end of the year. The policy has already cut child poverty by nearly 30%.

Manchin’s private comments shocked several senators, who saw it as an unfair assault on his own constituents and those struggling to raise children in poverty.

Manchin has also told colleagues he believes that Americans would fraudulently use the proposed paid sick leave policy, specifically saying people would feign being sick and go on hunting trips, a source familiar with his comments told HuffPost.

I'll believe that when I hear it from Manchin's lips. Not believing a HuffPo story using only anonymous sources.

Yeah, right. Like Manchin is going to state this publicly.

They had 2 different sources confirm it. I believe it. Sounds absolutely legit that someone as wealthy and out of touch as Manchin would have such an opinion of his constituents. Why else would he ignore the overwhelming public approval of the BBB among West Virginians?

You are so out of touch on this forum. I am from WV. He’s right, and trying to fight the opioid crisis is a huge issue back home. His constituents won’t be offended at all, they want their family members to stop dying of overdoses.

Also, 74 percent of WVians oppose BBB. What overwhelming majority?

Who f’ing cares? Manchin got 290,510 votes. He got 49.6% of the vote. 80 million people voted for Biden. Under 1% of the voters can veto the other 99%. You think this is a workable system? No it is not.

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BBB isn’t popular in West Virginia but the actual policies in it are. Just like the actual policies in the ACA poll better than “Obamacare”. Gah, around and around we go.

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Anonymous wrote:BBB isn’t popular in West Virginia but the actual policies in it are. Just like the actual policies in the ACA poll better than “Obamacare”. Gah, around and around we go.

People like "free" money too. Until they find out they have to pay for it through higher taxes and inflation.
Once the people in W Va found out everything in the bill, support plummeted. And, the price tag didn't help.

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Anonymous wrote:BBB isn’t popular in West Virginia but the actual policies in it are. Just like the actual policies in the ACA poll better than “Obamacare”. Gah, around and around we go.

People like "free" money too. Until they find out they have to pay for it through higher taxes and inflation.
Once the people in W Va found out everything in the bill, support plummeted. And, the price tag didn't help.

Lol, people in WV never have to pay for anything. They're one of the poorest biggest taker states in the entire country.

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Anonymous wrote:BBB isn’t popular in West Virginia but the actual policies in it are. Just like the actual policies in the ACA poll better than “Obamacare”. Gah, around and around we go.

People like "free" money too. Until they find out they have to pay for it through higher taxes and inflation.
Once the people in W Va found out everything in the bill, support plummeted. And, the price tag didn't help.

WVA has such high rates of diabetes that I once saw a story about treating it in a WVA tourist magazine in a hotel. I can assure you they would absolutely love to get the cap on insulin.

https://dhhr.wv.gov/hpcd/FocusAreas/wvdiabetes/Pages/DiabetesinWestVirginia.aspx

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Anonymous wrote:BBB isn’t popular in West Virginia but the actual policies in it are. Just like the actual policies in the ACA poll better than “Obamacare”. Gah, around and around we go.

People like "free" money too. Until they find out they have to pay for it through higher taxes and inflation.
Once the people in W Va found out everything in the bill, support plummeted. And, the price tag didn't help.

WVA has such high rates of diabetes that I once saw a story about treating it in a WVA tourist magazine in a hotel. I can assure you they would absolutely love to get the cap on insulin.

https://dhhr.wv.gov/hpcd/FocusAreas/wvdiabetes/Pages/DiabetesinWestVirginia.aspx

Fine. Put that in a bill that doesn't include trillions of dollars of other crap.

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This should help convince Manchin......

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Well Manchin told colleagues he thinks his constituents will spend child tax credit money on drugs, so he has a dim view of them himself.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-manchin-build-back-better-child-tax-credit-drugs_n_61bf8f6be4b061afe394006d?gxj

In recent months, Manchin has told several of his fellow Democrats that he thought parents would waste monthly child tax credit payments on drugs instead of providing for their children, according to two sources familiar with the senator’s comments.

Continuing the child tax credit for another year is a core part of the Build Back Better legislation that Democrats had hoped to pass by the end of the year. The policy has already cut child poverty by nearly 30%.

Manchin’s private comments shocked several senators, who saw it as an unfair assault on his own constituents and those struggling to raise children in poverty.

Manchin has also told colleagues he believes that Americans would fraudulently use the proposed paid sick leave policy, specifically saying people would feign being sick and go on hunting trips, a source familiar with his comments told HuffPost.

I'll believe that when I hear it from Manchin's lips. Not believing a HuffPo story using only anonymous sources.

Yeah, right. Like Manchin is going to state this publicly.

They had 2 different sources confirm it. I believe it. Sounds absolutely legit that someone as wealthy and out of touch as Manchin would have such an opinion of his constituents. Why else would he ignore the overwhelming public approval of the BBB among West Virginians?

You are so out of touch on this forum. I am from WV. He’s right, and trying to fight the opioid crisis is a huge issue back home. His constituents won’t be offended at all, they want their family members to stop dying of overdoses.

Also, 74 percent of WVians oppose BBB. What overwhelming majority?

Who f’ing cares? Manchin got 290,510 votes. He got 49.6% of the vote. 80 million people voted for Biden. Under 1% of the voters can veto the other 99%. You think this is a workable system? No it is not.

WV native. People love him because he is normal. A lot of people know him and he is very personable. He really doesn’t care what AOC things and she would have nothing to do with regular WV people. That is just facts. BBB is not good for WV and that is why he said no. He is a politician with integrity. Many people cross the line to vote for him. He was also a wonderful Governor. People care about their gas prices, their food costs -they do not care about electric cars and why in the world would regular WV want to get rid of energy industry. FYI people need to stop making fun of WV-it is a beautiful state. Come visit.

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Well Manchin told colleagues he thinks his constituents will spend child tax credit money on drugs, so he has a dim view of them himself.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-manchin-build-back-better-child-tax-credit-drugs_n_61bf8f6be4b061afe394006d?gxj

In recent months, Manchin has told several of his fellow Democrats that he thought parents would waste monthly child tax credit payments on drugs instead of providing for their children, according to two sources familiar with the senator’s comments.

Continuing the child tax credit for another year is a core part of the Build Back Better legislation that Democrats had hoped to pass by the end of the year. The policy has already cut child poverty by nearly 30%.

Manchin’s private comments shocked several senators, who saw it as an unfair assault on his own constituents and those struggling to raise children in poverty.

Manchin has also told colleagues he believes that Americans would fraudulently use the proposed paid sick leave policy, specifically saying people would feign being sick and go on hunting trips, a source familiar with his comments told HuffPost.

I'll believe that when I hear it from Manchin's lips. Not believing a HuffPo story using only anonymous sources.

Yeah, right. Like Manchin is going to state this publicly.

They had 2 different sources confirm it. I believe it. Sounds absolutely legit that someone as wealthy and out of touch as Manchin would have such an opinion of his constituents. Why else would he ignore the overwhelming public approval of the BBB among West Virginians?

You are so out of touch on this forum. I am from WV. He’s right, and trying to fight the opioid crisis is a huge issue back home. His constituents won’t be offended at all, they want their family members to stop dying of overdoses.

Also, 74 percent of WVians oppose BBB. What overwhelming majority?

Who f’ing cares? Manchin got 290,510 votes. He got 49.6% of the vote. 80 million people voted for Biden. Under 1% of the voters can veto the other 99%. You think this is a workable system? No it is not.

WV native. People love him because he is normal. A lot of people know him and he is very personable. He really doesn’t care what AOC things and she would have nothing to do with regular WV people. That is just facts. BBB is not good for WV and that is why he said no. He is a politician with integrity. Many people cross the line to vote for him. He was also a wonderful Governor. People care about their gas prices, their food costs -they do not care about electric cars and why in the world would regular WV want to get rid of energy industry. FYI people need to stop making fun of WV-it is a beautiful state. Come visit.

It's easily accessible with some of the best, newest, and barely used roads in the country!

(WV would have made out like bandits in BBB)

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Anonymous wrote:BBB isn’t popular in West Virginia but the actual policies in it are. Just like the actual policies in the ACA poll better than “Obamacare”. Gah, around and around we go.

People like "free" money too. Until they find out they have to pay for it through higher taxes and inflation.
Once the people in W Va found out everything in the bill, support plummeted. And, the price tag didn't help.

No, once they bought the lies about who would bear the costs it was over and apparently Manchin saw his out.

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States or areas with uneducated ignorant takers like WV should be punished through having less than equal shares of voting power compared to those areas that produce wealth, knowledge, and leadership, particularly when it comes to social spending. Democracy comes with responsibility and people similar to those in WV cannot handle the it.

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Well Manchin told colleagues he thinks his constituents will spend child tax credit money on drugs, so he has a dim view of them himself.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-manchin-build-back-better-child-tax-credit-drugs_n_61bf8f6be4b061afe394006d?gxj

In recent months, Manchin has told several of his fellow Democrats that he thought parents would waste monthly child tax credit payments on drugs instead of providing for their children, according to two sources familiar with the senator’s comments.

Continuing the child tax credit for another year is a core part of the Build Back Better legislation that Democrats had hoped to pass by the end of the year. The policy has already cut child poverty by nearly 30%.

Manchin’s private comments shocked several senators, who saw it as an unfair assault on his own constituents and those struggling to raise children in poverty.

Manchin has also told colleagues he believes that Americans would fraudulently use the proposed paid sick leave policy, specifically saying people would feign being sick and go on hunting trips, a source familiar with his comments told HuffPost.

I'll believe that when I hear it from Manchin's lips. Not believing a HuffPo story using only anonymous sources.

Yeah, right. Like Manchin is going to state this publicly.

They had 2 different sources confirm it. I believe it. Sounds absolutely legit that someone as wealthy and out of touch as Manchin would have such an opinion of his constituents. Why else would he ignore the overwhelming public approval of the BBB among West Virginians?

You are so out of touch on this forum. I am from WV. He’s right, and trying to fight the opioid crisis is a huge issue back home. His constituents won’t be offended at all, they want their family members to stop dying of overdoses.

Also, 74 percent of WVians oppose BBB. What overwhelming majority?

Who f’ing cares? Manchin got 290,510 votes. He got 49.6% of the vote. 80 million people voted for Biden. Under 1% of the voters can veto the other 99%. You think this is a workable system? No it is not.

WV native. People love him because he is normal. A lot of people know him and he is very personable. He really doesn’t care what AOC things and she would have nothing to do with regular WV people. That is just facts. BBB is not good for WV and that is why he said no. He is a politician with integrity. Many people cross the line to vote for him. He was also a wonderful Governor. People care about their gas prices, their food costs -they do not care about electric cars and why in the world would regular WV want to get rid of energy industry. FYI people need to stop making fun of WV-it is a beautiful state. Come visit.

How, specifically is it not good for WV?
And spare us the disingenuous "adds to the debt" and "adds inflation" rationales that have already been disputed by people smarter than anyone here on DCUM.

Not passing BBB does nothing for your food or gas costs. So, how specifically is it not good for WV?

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Anonymous wrote:BBB isn’t popular in West Virginia but the actual policies in it are. Just like the actual policies in the ACA poll better than “Obamacare”. Gah, around and around we go.

People like "free" money too. Until they find out they have to pay for it through higher taxes and inflation.
Once the people in W Va found out everything in the bill, support plummeted. And, the price tag didn't help.

No, once they bought the lies about who would bear the costs it was over and apparently Manchin saw his out.

Found out everything in the bill? I bet you most West Virginians would struggle to correctly list 3 things that are in the bill.