Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Erika Kirk is creepy. Watch a few videos of her. There is one in which she and Charlie confer about how she is "far more conservative than he is" and she proudly proclaims to be "very far right." She was also 5-6 years older than he was which is really atypical for their culture.

It’s so weird the alt-right and these super religious people have this weird look in their eyes.

You can tell when somebody is just pretending from moneybecause they don’t have crazy eyes

yep. she comes across very harsh.
There is nothing soft, Jesus-like, submissive wife about her which is weird because that is her message but her persona says she'd cut a bi$%tch in about 5 seconds flat.
I went down a whole Erika Kirk video rabbit trail the other night.

It’ll be interesting to see if she can continue TP. She certainly sounds as divisive as he was.

Erika Kirk vowed in a speech today to continue her husband’s movement and said that “the cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry,” USA Today reports.

Said Kirk: “If you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea. You have no idea what you’ve just unleashed across this entire country, and this world. You have no idea the fire you’ve ignited within this wife.”

I love it. And millions of us stand with her. She has been called and has shown more strength and grace than most of us could at a time like this.

Do you feel that way about the Sandyhook parents who were called to show strength and advocate for gun control?

That seems like a reasonable analogy. And you can certainly understand trying to turn your rage over your loss into action. But it's obviously very hard to do. The Sandy Hook parents have struggled to get results for their cause

Yeah but WHAT action is she supposedly showing strength about?

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I don’t think Turning Points is done completely, but without their main figure, they certainly won’t be putting out as much content anymore. Didn’t they sponsor a big meeting/convention every year? I’m sure that will continue, but stuff like the super high profile college visits are going to have to stop for now.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Turning Points is done completely, but without their main figure, they certainly won’t be putting out as much content anymore. Didn’t they sponsor a big meeting/convention every year? I’m sure that will continue, but stuff like the super high profile college visits are going to have to stop for now.

It is all about money. They will find a way to continue it.

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Anonymous wrote:Erika Kirk is creepy. Watch a few videos of her. There is one in which she and Charlie confer about how she is "far more conservative than he is" and she proudly proclaims to be "very far right." She was also 5-6 years older than he was which is really atypical for their culture.

It’s so weird the alt-right and these super religious people have this weird look in their eyes.

You can tell when somebody is just pretending from moneybecause they don’t have crazy eyes

yep. she comes across very harsh.
There is nothing soft, Jesus-like, submissive wife about her which is weird because that is her message but her persona says she'd cut a bi$%tch in about 5 seconds flat.
I went down a whole Erika Kirk video rabbit trail the other night.

It’ll be interesting to see if she can continue TP. She certainly sounds as divisive as he was.

Erika Kirk vowed in a speech today to continue her husband’s movement and said that “the cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry,” USA Today reports.

Said Kirk: “If you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea. You have no idea what you’ve just unleashed across this entire country, and this world. You have no idea the fire you’ve ignited within this wife.”

I love it. And millions of us stand with her. She has been called and has shown more strength and grace than most of us could at a time like this.

Do you feel that way about the Sandyhook parents who were called to show strength and advocate for gun control?

That seems like a reasonable analogy. And you can certainly understand trying to turn your rage over your loss into action. But it's obviously very hard to do. The Sandy Hook parents have struggled to get results for their cause

Yeah but WHAT action is she supposedly showing strength about?

I’m another poster but wanted to chime in here.

I don’t agree with Charlie’s message or how he treated others. I am impressed that his wife is standing up in public to carry on his legacy and hateful message. That is a strong woman.

I hope her and their kids find peace and happiness but not with turning point or the crazy right wing initiatives she is pushing.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Turning Points is done completely, but without their main figure, they certainly won’t be putting out as much content anymore. Didn’t they sponsor a big meeting/convention every year? I’m sure that will continue, but stuff like the super high profile college visits are going to have to stop for now.

While I knew who Charlie Kirk was, I never paid much attention to him or understood how big his movement was.

After watching clips of him debating with college students, he is going to be difficult to replace. He was brilliant in his ability to come back with statistics and information.
Agree or disagree, he listened to others and had responses. You might not agree with him, but he was in control of his point of view and likely made a lot of young people think about what they stand for.

Some things he supported were common sense.
i agree with a lot of what he said--but not all.

I recommend listening to some of those debates that he took under challenging circumstances.

One thing he did stand for was free speech.

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Anonymous wrote:Erika Kirk is creepy. Watch a few videos of her. There is one in which she and Charlie confer about how she is "far more conservative than he is" and she proudly proclaims to be "very far right." She was also 5-6 years older than he was which is really atypical for their culture.

It’s so weird the alt-right and these super religious people have this weird look in their eyes.

You can tell when somebody is just pretending from moneybecause they don’t have crazy eyes

yep. she comes across very harsh.
There is nothing soft, Jesus-like, submissive wife about her which is weird because that is her message but her persona says she'd cut a bi$%tch in about 5 seconds flat.
I went down a whole Erika Kirk video rabbit trail the other night.

It’ll be interesting to see if she can continue TP. She certainly sounds as divisive as he was.

Erika Kirk vowed in a speech today to continue her husband’s movement and said that “the cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry,” USA Today reports.

Said Kirk: “If you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea. You have no idea what you’ve just unleashed across this entire country, and this world. You have no idea the fire you’ve ignited within this wife.”

Hmm. Sorry, gravy train will stop:
1.Her husband had some warmth and charisma, she doesn't.
2. Also, the conservative ecosystem wants its males to lead large movements. Women influencers in the conservative sphere, of which there are many, have to fight for a much smaller slice of the pie and usually their followers are other conservative women.

This family is done for now. Maybe in the fullness of time she can marry another male influencer and carry him to success. This appears to be her talent: pushing a husband to lead. I respect that. It's no small feat.

Yes. She's the JD Vance of the pairing. No charisma, no warmth, no likability. Charlie had charisma in spades and just the right amount of good looks that appealed to both men and women, young people and their middle aged mothers.

Are you...blind? Charlie Kirk was hideous, almost deformed.

+1 His wife is beautiful, he wasn’t. His head and face were weird.

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Here is a TikTok by someone who explained it as best as he can. The shooter was an gen z online troll come to life.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT6KwUTXR/

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Anonymous wrote:She'll probably be dating Don Jr within a year.

Well played

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He went to college campuses for the same reason that Scientology has a presence on college campuses.

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Three hundred and twenty pages on a man whose views were ananthema to most of us. Below are his views that, quite frankly, are frightening.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/11/us/charlie-kirk-views-guns-gender-climate.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

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Anonymous wrote:She'll probably be dating Don Jr within a year.

This

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Turning Points is done completely, but without their main figure, they certainly won’t be putting out as much content anymore. Didn’t they sponsor a big meeting/convention every year? I’m sure that will continue, but stuff like the super high profile college visits are going to have to stop for now.

While I knew who Charlie Kirk was, I never paid much attention to him or understood how big his movement was.

After watching clips of him debating with college students, he is going to be difficult to replace. He was brilliant in his ability to come back with statistics and information.
Agree or disagree, he listened to others and had responses. You might not agree with him, but he was in control of his point of view and likely made a lot of young people think about what they stand for.

Some things he supported were common sense.
i agree with a lot of what he said--but not all.

I recommend listening to some of those debates that he took under challenging circumstances.

One thing he did stand for was free speech.

He did agree with free speech. And what happened to him is horrific.

He was only brilliant when debating below average college students. Try looking some debates with smart kids and he's not so brilliant. I am not saying this to be mean. Ben Shapiro comes across as someone articulate with quick processing speed. Charlie Kirk only looks brilliant next to the most mediocre interlocutors.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Erika Kirk is creepy. Watch a few videos of her. There is one in which she and Charlie confer about how she is "far more conservative than he is" and she proudly proclaims to be "very far right." She was also 5-6 years older than he was which is really atypical for their culture.

It’s so weird the alt-right and these super religious people have this weird look in their eyes.

You can tell when somebody is just pretending from moneybecause they don’t have crazy eyes

yep. she comes across very harsh.
There is nothing soft, Jesus-like, submissive wife about her which is weird because that is her message but her persona says she'd cut a bi$%tch in about 5 seconds flat.
I went down a whole Erika Kirk video rabbit trail the other night.

It’ll be interesting to see if she can continue TP. She certainly sounds as divisive as he was.

Erika Kirk vowed in a speech today to continue her husband’s movement and said that “the cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry,” USA Today reports.

Said Kirk: “If you thought that my husband’s mission was powerful before, you have no idea. You have no idea what you’ve just unleashed across this entire country, and this world. You have no idea the fire you’ve ignited within this wife.”

Hmm. Sorry, gravy train will stop:
1.Her husband had some warmth and charisma, she doesn't.
2. Also, the conservative ecosystem wants its males to lead large movements. Women influencers in the conservative sphere, of which there are many, have to fight for a much smaller slice of the pie and usually their followers are other conservative women.

This family is done for now. Maybe in the fullness of time she can marry another male influencer and carry him to success. This appears to be her talent: pushing a husband to lead. I respect that. It's no small feat.

Yes. She's the JD Vance of the pairing. No charisma, no warmth, no likability. Charlie had charisma in spades and just the right amount of good looks that appealed to both men and women, young people and their middle aged mothers.

Are you...blind? Charlie Kirk was hideous, almost deformed.

+1 His wife is beautiful, he wasn’t. His head and face were weird.

So, we are at the place in the discussion where you are criticizing the appearance of someone brutally murdered and the "charisma" of his widow.
DCUM never fails to disappoint in the shallowness of discussion. You people could have learned something from Charlie Kirk.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Turning Points is done completely, but without their main figure, they certainly won’t be putting out as much content anymore. Didn’t they sponsor a big meeting/convention every year? I’m sure that will continue, but stuff like the super high profile college visits are going to have to stop for now.

While I knew who Charlie Kirk was, I never paid much attention to him or understood how big his movement was.

After watching clips of him debating with college students, he is going to be difficult to replace. He was brilliant in his ability to come back with statistics and information.
Agree or disagree, he listened to others and had responses. You might not agree with him, but he was in control of his point of view and likely made a lot of young people think about what they stand for.

Some things he supported were common sense.
i agree with a lot of what he said--but not all.

I recommend listening to some of those debates that he took under challenging circumstances.

One thing he did stand for was free speech.

I would hope a grown man of 30+ years might have a better grasp of information than a college student.

And, what a shock it will be to his kids, who learn the truth when they explore the context of their dad’s death.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is a TikTok by someone who explained it as best as he can. The shooter was an gen z online troll come to life.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT6KwUTXR/

I think that this is all very good an accurate analysis about this hostile and strange virtual world that this generation grew up in. His analysis is important and seems right on - except for his premise. He says: TR is not alt-right or extreme left, but then goes on to describe the internet ecosystem where every single influence is an individual or group that is extreme right wing. So while he may be correct that the shooter's motivations are not be exactly political in a way that most adults can understand, the world that shaped the shooter was. And it was most definitively alt-right!