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Anonymous wrote:West Springfield parents have claimed for years that the enrollment would decline significantly the next year and it didn’t happen. It’s a classic case of crying wolf. You could even be right this time but you’ve been wrong so many times that your credibility is shot.

Fun fact, that's because the number of transfers into the school, which has been closed to transfers for years, continues to rise. Last year it was like 60 kids. And no one at Gatehouse can explain why. WSHS families have asked. But gotten nowhere on this.

Exactly this.

They did say some were for German immersion, which violates FCPS own policy on language transfers.

If a school is closed to transfers like WSHS for over a decade, then the kids requesting language transfers are supposed to attend the next closest school offering the language, with parents providing their own transportation, or take the language online.

I don't know what other high schools offer German, but zero students should be approved for transferring into WSHS for German, based on FCPS own long standing language transfer policiy.

And to the parent saying WSHS parents are "crying wolf" what they have been saying for years is that once class on 2026 graduates, WSHS enrollment will drop steadily, since class of 2026 is around 130 students larger than the replacement class of 8th graders, class of 2027 is much larger than the replacement 7th grade class, and 2028/2029 much larger than the current 5th and 6th grade classes.

Both Irving and WSHS will see drops in the next 1-4 years that will put WSHS just slightly over full capacity, with zero need for rezoning.

If WSHS sends most of the 50-60 transfer students back to their neighborhood high schools, and starts to enforce the closed to transfers rule as written by FCPS, then WSHS would not need any rezoning as there are more transfers into WSHS than Sangster kids who are part of the neighborhood, getting kicked out by FCPS.

They could get it slightly wrong and WSHS would still have a huge enrollment. This school is regularly given preferential treatment and treated with kid gloves.

Oh please. It's a middle class school. We aren't talking about Langley or McLean here.

Renovation of WSHS was moved up in the queue as part of the brokered deal to close Clifton ES.

Renovation and expansion was bigger than other schools built in the mid-60s (Facilities head at the time was a WSHS graduate). If WA had only been expanded to the size of an Edison or Marshall kids would already have been moved out of WSHS.

There’s never been a proposal to move WSHS kids to adjacent Lewis, despite the obvious imbalance in enrollments.

It’s more favorable treatment than Langley gets and far more favorable treatment than McLean gets.

That's absolutely untrue. Kids have moved from WSHS to Lewis (or then Lee HS) over the years. Despite what the school board says, there have been boundary changes throughout the last 40 years. And maybe WSHS moved up in the queue, but the school's condition had deteriorated to the point where you could see the first floor from the second floor in some of the classrooms. There are plenty of complaints that can be made about how they manage the renovation list.

You’re not really denying the favorable treatment that West Springfield has received from FCPS, only rationalizing it.

And do let us know the last time anyone was moved from West Springfield to Lee/Lewis. We’ll wait.

Ha! You tell 'em McLean momma. Our kids deserve better.

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Anonymous wrote:So, parents successfully bullied the SB into letting go of changing anything, right?

It was heroic parents standing up for kids in the face of bully Sandy and the rest of the school board goons.

These parents saved a lot of kids. I wish they could’ve protected them all, and my heart aches for the kids whose lives are about to be upended by boundary changes without any justification.

Some of our kids are so screwed if they ever face any real adversary. I swear, some of you are so over the top with your pronouncement of doom and gloom because people move schools. It is not ideal but it is not the end of the world.

And yet, you and your ilk are desperately, oh so desperately, trying to move kids into your own kids’ schools.

Talk about not being able to handle adversity!

This is an anonymous board. I get that your MO is to smear anyone who doesn't agree with you as either a FCPS employee, someone who throws other kids under the bus, someone who wants other kids to improve their school, or someone who wants all kids to have mental health care crises, but it is really silly. Try having a grown-up conversation and not call other people names.

My kid is moving, and he will be fine. I have not suggested that other schools move because my kid moving makes sense. He is moving with a group of friends so he will know people. We are going to support him and make sure he feels comfortable at the school.

I get it, you don't want to move. You would sound like someone people should listen to if you didn't resort to name calling people who might disagree with you.

You do not know if your kid is moving until they vote.

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Anonymous wrote:West Springfield parents have claimed for years that the enrollment would decline significantly the next year and it didn’t happen. It’s a classic case of crying wolf. You could even be right this time but you’ve been wrong so many times that your credibility is shot.

Fun fact, that's because the number of transfers into the school, which has been closed to transfers for years, continues to rise. Last year it was like 60 kids. And no one at Gatehouse can explain why. WSHS families have asked. But gotten nowhere on this.

Exactly this.

They did say some were for German immersion, which violates FCPS own policy on language transfers.

If a school is closed to transfers like WSHS for over a decade, then the kids requesting language transfers are supposed to attend the next closest school offering the language, with parents providing their own transportation, or take the language online.

I don't know what other high schools offer German, but zero students should be approved for transferring into WSHS for German, based on FCPS own long standing language transfer policiy.

And to the parent saying WSHS parents are "crying wolf" what they have been saying for years is that once class on 2026 graduates, WSHS enrollment will drop steadily, since class of 2026 is around 130 students larger than the replacement class of 8th graders, class of 2027 is much larger than the replacement 7th grade class, and 2028/2029 much larger than the current 5th and 6th grade classes.

Both Irving and WSHS will see drops in the next 1-4 years that will put WSHS just slightly over full capacity, with zero need for rezoning.

If WSHS sends most of the 50-60 transfer students back to their neighborhood high schools, and starts to enforce the closed to transfers rule as written by FCPS, then WSHS would not need any rezoning as there are more transfers into WSHS than Sangster kids who are part of the neighborhood, getting kicked out by FCPS.

They could get it slightly wrong and WSHS would still have a huge enrollment. This school is regularly given preferential treatment and treated with kid gloves.

Oh please. It's a middle class school. We aren't talking about Langley or McLean here.

Renovation of WSHS was moved up in the queue as part of the brokered deal to close Clifton ES.

Renovation and expansion was bigger than other schools built in the mid-60s (Facilities head at the time was a WSHS graduate). If WA had only been expanded to the size of an Edison or Marshall kids would already have been moved out of WSHS.

There’s never been a proposal to move WSHS kids to adjacent Lewis, despite the obvious imbalance in enrollments.

It’s more favorable treatment than Langley gets and far more favorable treatment than McLean gets.

That's absolutely untrue. Kids have moved from WSHS to Lewis (or then Lee HS) over the years. Despite what the school board says, there have been boundary changes throughout the last 40 years. And maybe WSHS moved up in the queue, but the school's condition had deteriorated to the point where you could see the first floor from the second floor in some of the classrooms. There are plenty of complaints that can be made about how they manage the renovation list.

You’re not really denying the favorable treatment that West Springfield has received from FCPS, only rationalizing it.

And do let us know the last time anyone was moved from West Springfield to Lee/Lewis. We’ll wait.

Ha! You tell 'em McLean momma. Our kids deserve better.

Not a McLean momma. I am aware they've been shafted compared to West Springfield.

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Anonymous wrote:West Springfield parents have claimed for years that the enrollment would decline significantly the next year and it didn’t happen. It’s a classic case of crying wolf. You could even be right this time but you’ve been wrong so many times that your credibility is shot.

It has been on the decline, and will continue.

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Does anyone know if we will ever see the final recommendations from BRAC??

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Anonymous wrote:West Springfield parents have claimed for years that the enrollment would decline significantly the next year and it didn’t happen. It’s a classic case of crying wolf. You could even be right this time but you’ve been wrong so many times that your credibility is shot.

It has been on the decline, and will continue.

The WSHS enrollment has gone up every year since 2017-18, and the enrollment this November (2834) is higher than last November (2791).

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Anonymous wrote:West Springfield parents have claimed for years that the enrollment would decline significantly the next year and it didn’t happen. It’s a classic case of crying wolf. You could even be right this time but you’ve been wrong so many times that your credibility is shot.

Fun fact, that's because the number of transfers into the school, which has been closed to transfers for years, continues to rise. Last year it was like 60 kids. And no one at Gatehouse can explain why. WSHS families have asked. But gotten nowhere on this.

Exactly this.

They did say some were for German immersion, which violates FCPS own policy on language transfers.

If a school is closed to transfers like WSHS for over a decade, then the kids requesting language transfers are supposed to attend the next closest school offering the language, with parents providing their own transportation, or take the language online.

I don't know what other high schools offer German, but zero students should be approved for transferring into WSHS for German, based on FCPS own long standing language transfer policiy.

And to the parent saying WSHS parents are "crying wolf" what they have been saying for years is that once class on 2026 graduates, WSHS enrollment will drop steadily, since class of 2026 is around 130 students larger than the replacement class of 8th graders, class of 2027 is much larger than the replacement 7th grade class, and 2028/2029 much larger than the current 5th and 6th grade classes.

Both Irving and WSHS will see drops in the next 1-4 years that will put WSHS just slightly over full capacity, with zero need for rezoning.

If WSHS sends most of the 50-60 transfer students back to their neighborhood high schools, and starts to enforce the closed to transfers rule as written by FCPS, then WSHS would not need any rezoning as there are more transfers into WSHS than Sangster kids who are part of the neighborhood, getting kicked out by FCPS.

They could get it slightly wrong and WSHS would still have a huge enrollment. This school is regularly given preferential treatment and treated with kid gloves.

Oh please. It's a middle class school. We aren't talking about Langley or McLean here.

Renovation of WSHS was moved up in the queue as part of the brokered deal to close Clifton ES.

Renovation and expansion was bigger than other schools built in the mid-60s (Facilities head at the time was a WSHS graduate). If WA had only been expanded to the size of an Edison or Marshall kids would already have been moved out of WSHS.

There’s never been a proposal to move WSHS kids to adjacent Lewis, despite the obvious imbalance in enrollments.

It’s more favorable treatment than Langley gets and far more favorable treatment than McLean gets.

That's absolutely untrue. Kids have moved from WSHS to Lewis (or then Lee HS) over the years. Despite what the school board says, there have been boundary changes throughout the last 40 years. And maybe WSHS moved up in the queue, but the school's condition had deteriorated to the point where you could see the first floor from the second floor in some of the classrooms. There are plenty of complaints that can be made about how they manage the renovation list.

You’re not really denying the favorable treatment that West Springfield has received from FCPS, only rationalizing it.

And do let us know the last time anyone was moved from West Springfield to Lee/Lewis. We’ll wait.

The CIP proposes capacity enhancements to Langley,
Herndon, Oakton and West Springfield High Schools as
part of their renovations and additions at Westbriar
Elementary and South Lakes High Schools to expand
the schools’ capacities.

So 5 high schools were approved in the same CIP, but one of them got special treatment? That isn’t what special treatment means.

https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/9RS2U3647CAD/$file/Proposed%20CIP%202016-20_Final_Web.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:West Springfield parents have claimed for years that the enrollment would decline significantly the next year and it didn’t happen. It’s a classic case of crying wolf. You could even be right this time but you’ve been wrong so many times that your credibility is shot.

Fun fact, that's because the number of transfers into the school, which has been closed to transfers for years, continues to rise. Last year it was like 60 kids. And no one at Gatehouse can explain why. WSHS families have asked. But gotten nowhere on this.

Exactly this.

They did say some were for German immersion, which violates FCPS own policy on language transfers.

If a school is closed to transfers like WSHS for over a decade, then the kids requesting language transfers are supposed to attend the next closest school offering the language, with parents providing their own transportation, or take the language online.

I don't know what other high schools offer German, but zero students should be approved for transferring into WSHS for German, based on FCPS own long standing language transfer policiy.

And to the parent saying WSHS parents are "crying wolf" what they have been saying for years is that once class on 2026 graduates, WSHS enrollment will drop steadily, since class of 2026 is around 130 students larger than the replacement class of 8th graders, class of 2027 is much larger than the replacement 7th grade class, and 2028/2029 much larger than the current 5th and 6th grade classes.

Both Irving and WSHS will see drops in the next 1-4 years that will put WSHS just slightly over full capacity, with zero need for rezoning.

If WSHS sends most of the 50-60 transfer students back to their neighborhood high schools, and starts to enforce the closed to transfers rule as written by FCPS, then WSHS would not need any rezoning as there are more transfers into WSHS than Sangster kids who are part of the neighborhood, getting kicked out by FCPS.

They could get it slightly wrong and WSHS would still have a huge enrollment. This school is regularly given preferential treatment and treated with kid gloves.

Oh please. It's a middle class school. We aren't talking about Langley or McLean here.

Renovation of WSHS was moved up in the queue as part of the brokered deal to close Clifton ES.

Renovation and expansion was bigger than other schools built in the mid-60s (Facilities head at the time was a WSHS graduate). If WA had only been expanded to the size of an Edison or Marshall kids would already have been moved out of WSHS.

There’s never been a proposal to move WSHS kids to adjacent Lewis, despite the obvious imbalance in enrollments.

It’s more favorable treatment than Langley gets and far more favorable treatment than McLean gets.

That's absolutely untrue. Kids have moved from WSHS to Lewis (or then Lee HS) over the years. Despite what the school board says, there have been boundary changes throughout the last 40 years. And maybe WSHS moved up in the queue, but the school's condition had deteriorated to the point where you could see the first floor from the second floor in some of the classrooms. There are plenty of complaints that can be made about how they manage the renovation list.

You’re not really denying the favorable treatment that West Springfield has received from FCPS, only rationalizing it.

And do let us know the last time anyone was moved from West Springfield to Lee/Lewis. We’ll wait.

I would hope that any school with structural issues so bad that support walls were pulling away from the floors creating cracks so large that you could see between classrooms between the first and second floors would get a full gut renovation, and necessary classroom space added to accommodate modern science labs, especially if it is renovated during an economic boom wirh historically low inflation.

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Anonymous wrote:West Springfield parents have claimed for years that the enrollment would decline significantly the next year and it didn’t happen. It’s a classic case of crying wolf. You could even be right this time but you’ve been wrong so many times that your credibility is shot.

It has been on the decline, and will continue.

The WSHS enrollment has gone up every year since 2017-18, and the enrollment this November (2834) is higher than last November (2791).

60 transfers into WSHS are included in that number.

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Anonymous wrote:West Springfield parents have claimed for years that the enrollment would decline significantly the next year and it didn’t happen. It’s a classic case of crying wolf. You could even be right this time but you’ve been wrong so many times that your credibility is shot.

Fun fact, that's because the number of transfers into the school, which has been closed to transfers for years, continues to rise. Last year it was like 60 kids. And no one at Gatehouse can explain why. WSHS families have asked. But gotten nowhere on this.

Exactly this.

They did say some were for German immersion, which violates FCPS own policy on language transfers.

If a school is closed to transfers like WSHS for over a decade, then the kids requesting language transfers are supposed to attend the next closest school offering the language, with parents providing their own transportation, or take the language online.

I don't know what other high schools offer German, but zero students should be approved for transferring into WSHS for German, based on FCPS own long standing language transfer policiy.

And to the parent saying WSHS parents are "crying wolf" what they have been saying for years is that once class on 2026 graduates, WSHS enrollment will drop steadily, since class of 2026 is around 130 students larger than the replacement class of 8th graders, class of 2027 is much larger than the replacement 7th grade class, and 2028/2029 much larger than the current 5th and 6th grade classes.

Both Irving and WSHS will see drops in the next 1-4 years that will put WSHS just slightly over full capacity, with zero need for rezoning.

If WSHS sends most of the 50-60 transfer students back to their neighborhood high schools, and starts to enforce the closed to transfers rule as written by FCPS, then WSHS would not need any rezoning as there are more transfers into WSHS than Sangster kids who are part of the neighborhood, getting kicked out by FCPS.

They could get it slightly wrong and WSHS would still have a huge enrollment. This school is regularly given preferential treatment and treated with kid gloves.

Oh please. It's a middle class school. We aren't talking about Langley or McLean here.

Renovation of WSHS was moved up in the queue as part of the brokered deal to close Clifton ES.

Renovation and expansion was bigger than other schools built in the mid-60s (Facilities head at the time was a WSHS graduate). If WA had only been expanded to the size of an Edison or Marshall kids would already have been moved out of WSHS.

There’s never been a proposal to move WSHS kids to adjacent Lewis, despite the obvious imbalance in enrollments.

It’s more favorable treatment than Langley gets and far more favorable treatment than McLean gets.

That's absolutely untrue. Kids have moved from WSHS to Lewis (or then Lee HS) over the years. Despite what the school board says, there have been boundary changes throughout the last 40 years. And maybe WSHS moved up in the queue, but the school's condition had deteriorated to the point where you could see the first floor from the second floor in some of the classrooms. There are plenty of complaints that can be made about how they manage the renovation list.

You’re not really denying the favorable treatment that West Springfield has received from FCPS, only rationalizing it.

And do let us know the last time anyone was moved from West Springfield to Lee/Lewis. We’ll wait.

The CIP proposes capacity enhancements to Langley,
Herndon, Oakton and West Springfield High Schools as
part of their renovations and additions at Westbriar
Elementary and South Lakes High Schools to expand
the schools’ capacities.

So 5 high schools were approved in the same CIP, but one of them got special treatment? That isn’t what special treatment means.

https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/9RS2U3647CAD/$file/Proposed%20CIP%202016-20_Final_Web.pdf

Stop adding documented facts to this discussion.

It messes with the hyperbole and outright lies.

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Anonymous wrote:West Springfield parents have claimed for years that the enrollment would decline significantly the next year and it didn’t happen. It’s a classic case of crying wolf. You could even be right this time but you’ve been wrong so many times that your credibility is shot.

Fun fact, that's because the number of transfers into the school, which has been closed to transfers for years, continues to rise. Last year it was like 60 kids. And no one at Gatehouse can explain why. WSHS families have asked. But gotten nowhere on this.

Exactly this.

They did say some were for German immersion, which violates FCPS own policy on language transfers.

If a school is closed to transfers like WSHS for over a decade, then the kids requesting language transfers are supposed to attend the next closest school offering the language, with parents providing their own transportation, or take the language online.

I don't know what other high schools offer German, but zero students should be approved for transferring into WSHS for German, based on FCPS own long standing language transfer policiy.

And to the parent saying WSHS parents are "crying wolf" what they have been saying for years is that once class on 2026 graduates, WSHS enrollment will drop steadily, since class of 2026 is around 130 students larger than the replacement class of 8th graders, class of 2027 is much larger than the replacement 7th grade class, and 2028/2029 much larger than the current 5th and 6th grade classes.

Both Irving and WSHS will see drops in the next 1-4 years that will put WSHS just slightly over full capacity, with zero need for rezoning.

If WSHS sends most of the 50-60 transfer students back to their neighborhood high schools, and starts to enforce the closed to transfers rule as written by FCPS, then WSHS would not need any rezoning as there are more transfers into WSHS than Sangster kids who are part of the neighborhood, getting kicked out by FCPS.

They could get it slightly wrong and WSHS would still have a huge enrollment. This school is regularly given preferential treatment and treated with kid gloves.

Oh please. It's a middle class school. We aren't talking about Langley or McLean here.

Renovation of WSHS was moved up in the queue as part of the brokered deal to close Clifton ES.

Renovation and expansion was bigger than other schools built in the mid-60s (Facilities head at the time was a WSHS graduate). If WA had only been expanded to the size of an Edison or Marshall kids would already have been moved out of WSHS.

There’s never been a proposal to move WSHS kids to adjacent Lewis, despite the obvious imbalance in enrollments.

It’s more favorable treatment than Langley gets and far more favorable treatment than McLean gets.

That's absolutely untrue. Kids have moved from WSHS to Lewis (or then Lee HS) over the years. Despite what the school board says, there have been boundary changes throughout the last 40 years. And maybe WSHS moved up in the queue, but the school's condition had deteriorated to the point where you could see the first floor from the second floor in some of the classrooms. There are plenty of complaints that can be made about how they manage the renovation list.

You’re not really denying the favorable treatment that West Springfield has received from FCPS, only rationalizing it.

And do let us know the last time anyone was moved from West Springfield to Lee/Lewis. We’ll wait.

The CIP proposes capacity enhancements to Langley,
Herndon, Oakton and West Springfield High Schools as
part of their renovations and additions at Westbriar
Elementary and South Lakes High Schools to expand
the schools’ capacities.

So 5 high schools were approved in the same CIP, but one of them got special treatment? That isn’t what special treatment means.

https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/9RS2U3647CAD/$file/Proposed%20CIP%202016-20_Final_Web.pdf

This doesn't mean what you seem to think it means. WS got a larger expansion than Langley even though it sits next to an under-enrolled school and Langley sits next to an overcrowded one. And it's renovation was accelerated in exchange for closing Clifton ES permanently.

Anyway, still waiting for that data on the last time anyone from West Springfield got moved to Lee/Lewis.

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Anonymous wrote:West Springfield parents have claimed for years that the enrollment would decline significantly the next year and it didn’t happen. It’s a classic case of crying wolf. You could even be right this time but you’ve been wrong so many times that your credibility is shot.

Fun fact, that's because the number of transfers into the school, which has been closed to transfers for years, continues to rise. Last year it was like 60 kids. And no one at Gatehouse can explain why. WSHS families have asked. But gotten nowhere on this.

Exactly this.

They did say some were for German immersion, which violates FCPS own policy on language transfers.

If a school is closed to transfers like WSHS for over a decade, then the kids requesting language transfers are supposed to attend the next closest school offering the language, with parents providing their own transportation, or take the language online.

I don't know what other high schools offer German, but zero students should be approved for transferring into WSHS for German, based on FCPS own long standing language transfer policiy.

And to the parent saying WSHS parents are "crying wolf" what they have been saying for years is that once class on 2026 graduates, WSHS enrollment will drop steadily, since class of 2026 is around 130 students larger than the replacement class of 8th graders, class of 2027 is much larger than the replacement 7th grade class, and 2028/2029 much larger than the current 5th and 6th grade classes.

Both Irving and WSHS will see drops in the next 1-4 years that will put WSHS just slightly over full capacity, with zero need for rezoning.

If WSHS sends most of the 50-60 transfer students back to their neighborhood high schools, and starts to enforce the closed to transfers rule as written by FCPS, then WSHS would not need any rezoning as there are more transfers into WSHS than Sangster kids who are part of the neighborhood, getting kicked out by FCPS.

They could get it slightly wrong and WSHS would still have a huge enrollment. This school is regularly given preferential treatment and treated with kid gloves.

Oh please. It's a middle class school. We aren't talking about Langley or McLean here.

Renovation of WSHS was moved up in the queue as part of the brokered deal to close Clifton ES.

Renovation and expansion was bigger than other schools built in the mid-60s (Facilities head at the time was a WSHS graduate). If WA had only been expanded to the size of an Edison or Marshall kids would already have been moved out of WSHS.

There’s never been a proposal to move WSHS kids to adjacent Lewis, despite the obvious imbalance in enrollments.

It’s more favorable treatment than Langley gets and far more favorable treatment than McLean gets.

That's absolutely untrue. Kids have moved from WSHS to Lewis (or then Lee HS) over the years. Despite what the school board says, there have been boundary changes throughout the last 40 years. And maybe WSHS moved up in the queue, but the school's condition had deteriorated to the point where you could see the first floor from the second floor in some of the classrooms. There are plenty of complaints that can be made about how they manage the renovation list.

You’re not really denying the favorable treatment that West Springfield has received from FCPS, only rationalizing it.

And do let us know the last time anyone was moved from West Springfield to Lee/Lewis. We’ll wait.

The CIP proposes capacity enhancements to Langley,
Herndon, Oakton and West Springfield High Schools as
part of their renovations and additions at Westbriar
Elementary and South Lakes High Schools to expand
the schools’ capacities.

So 5 high schools were approved in the same CIP, but one of them got special treatment? That isn’t what special treatment means.

https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/9RS2U3647CAD/$file/Proposed%20CIP%202016-20_Final_Web.pdf

This is so outdated sweetheart.

They were already done.

Not well enough though.

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Anonymous wrote:West Springfield parents have claimed for years that the enrollment would decline significantly the next year and it didn’t happen. It’s a classic case of crying wolf. You could even be right this time but you’ve been wrong so many times that your credibility is shot.

Fun fact, that's because the number of transfers into the school, which has been closed to transfers for years, continues to rise. Last year it was like 60 kids. And no one at Gatehouse can explain why. WSHS families have asked. But gotten nowhere on this.

Exactly this.

They did say some were for German immersion, which violates FCPS own policy on language transfers.

If a school is closed to transfers like WSHS for over a decade, then the kids requesting language transfers are supposed to attend the next closest school offering the language, with parents providing their own transportation, or take the language online.

I don't know what other high schools offer German, but zero students should be approved for transferring into WSHS for German, based on FCPS own long standing language transfer policiy.

And to the parent saying WSHS parents are "crying wolf" what they have been saying for years is that once class on 2026 graduates, WSHS enrollment will drop steadily, since class of 2026 is around 130 students larger than the replacement class of 8th graders, class of 2027 is much larger than the replacement 7th grade class, and 2028/2029 much larger than the current 5th and 6th grade classes.

Both Irving and WSHS will see drops in the next 1-4 years that will put WSHS just slightly over full capacity, with zero need for rezoning.

If WSHS sends most of the 50-60 transfer students back to their neighborhood high schools, and starts to enforce the closed to transfers rule as written by FCPS, then WSHS would not need any rezoning as there are more transfers into WSHS than Sangster kids who are part of the neighborhood, getting kicked out by FCPS.

They could get it slightly wrong and WSHS would still have a huge enrollment. This school is regularly given preferential treatment and treated with kid gloves.

Oh please. It's a middle class school. We aren't talking about Langley or McLean here.

Renovation of WSHS was moved up in the queue as part of the brokered deal to close Clifton ES.

Renovation and expansion was bigger than other schools built in the mid-60s (Facilities head at the time was a WSHS graduate). If WA had only been expanded to the size of an Edison or Marshall kids would already have been moved out of WSHS.

There’s never been a proposal to move WSHS kids to adjacent Lewis, despite the obvious imbalance in enrollments.

It’s more favorable treatment than Langley gets and far more favorable treatment than McLean gets.

That's absolutely untrue. Kids have moved from WSHS to Lewis (or then Lee HS) over the years. Despite what the school board says, there have been boundary changes throughout the last 40 years. And maybe WSHS moved up in the queue, but the school's condition had deteriorated to the point where you could see the first floor from the second floor in some of the classrooms. There are plenty of complaints that can be made about how they manage the renovation list.

You’re not really denying the favorable treatment that West Springfield has received from FCPS, only rationalizing it.

And do let us know the last time anyone was moved from West Springfield to Lee/Lewis. We’ll wait.

The CIP proposes capacity enhancements to Langley,
Herndon, Oakton and West Springfield High Schools as
part of their renovations and additions at Westbriar
Elementary and South Lakes High Schools to expand
the schools’ capacities.

So 5 high schools were approved in the same CIP, but one of them got special treatment? That isn’t what special treatment means.

https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/9RS2U3647CAD/$file/Proposed%20CIP%202016-20_Final_Web.pdf

This doesn't mean what you seem to think it means. WS got a larger expansion than Langley even though it sits next to an under-enrolled school and Langley sits next to an overcrowded one. And it's renovation was accelerated in exchange for closing Clifton ES permanently.

Anyway, still waiting for that data on the last time anyone from West Springfield got moved to Lee/Lewis.

Literally.

Justice for McLean!

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Anonymous wrote:West Springfield parents have claimed for years that the enrollment would decline significantly the next year and it didn’t happen. It’s a classic case of crying wolf. You could even be right this time but you’ve been wrong so many times that your credibility is shot.

It has been on the decline, and will continue.

The WSHS enrollment has gone up every year since 2017-18, and the enrollment this November (2834) is higher than last November (2791).

60 transfers into WSHS are included in that number.

There would be zero if LHS were actually decent and not inequitable.

Same with Mount Vernon and Justice.

IB has no place in FCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Sharing a maybe unpopular opinion but true: some overcrowding is actually a good thing. It brings additional resources to a school (more grants, more teachers, etc). One of the reasons overpopulated schools in this region perform so well is because of those additional resources.

Nonsense. Its nearly impossible to make sports teams, get a part in the play, be on student govt, etc. with overcrowded schools. Let alone the bathroom situation and the hallways.

The kids might need to work a little harder to get a part in the musical or make the team, and perhaps they need to wait until junior year, but they learn to push themselves, try new things and learn how to not always get everything they want the first time... all great lessons.

Disagree. You simply won't have the opportunities at a 3000 student school that you would at a 2000 student school. You don't need to "work a little harder" to make the basketball team at Westfield or a part in the play at Chantilly, you just don't get to be on the team or in the play, ever. Honestly, your tone shows you really don't understand at all how hard it is to get opportunities at these mega schools.

Mega schools of 3000 vs 2000 is a very different story than a 2500 student school being “overcrowded” by 100 kids or even 200. The math doesn’t math.