Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:More from the Jerusalem Post;

“Gazan civilians have testified to officers of the IDF's Unit 504 how Hamas murdered Gazan civilians who tried to get help from UNRWA and that Hamas terrorists steal food from US aid organizations and seize civilian properties for military use.

In one recorded call, a Gazan civilian testified that Hamas murdered his cousin because he tried to seek help from UNRWA. In another conversation, a civilian said he does not leave his home because he fears Hamas will seize it and use the property to fire toward Israel and destroy his house.

One civilian is heard on a recording saying, "When will you get rid of [Hamas]? They killed my cousin yesterday because he went to UNRWA."”

What a sick entity is this Hamas.


Sure. But how do you justify the fact that that poor civilian is just as likely to be killed by Israel. I’m not sure how you can think that IDF is not harming more Palestinians than Hamas.


We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas used them as human shields.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas used schools, residential areas, hospitals, refugee camps to launch attacks at the IDF.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because of misfired Hamas rockets blowing up in civilian areas.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas shot them for trying to get the UN food and humanitarian aid that Hamas refused to distribute to them.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas took and hoarded medicines for themselves while injured civilians went without.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas took and hoarded food and water for themselves, while civilians went without.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because they were caught in the crossfire while Hamas fought IDF.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because their homes collapsed because Hamas tunneled underneath them.
and so on...

But we do know that ALL of those things are happening, and we also know that in every case the numbers are not small. Hamas is killing many, many Palestinians. Thousands. I'm not sure how you can think Hamas is not responsible for many, many Palestinian deaths.


Honestly I feel physically ill with reading your post. If I am confronted with a terrorist using a child as a human shield I WOULD not and COULD not ever shoot. It sickens me that Israel CAN and DOES when Jewish people have been victims time and time again. Israeli Zionists have lost their moral compass.
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Anonymous wrote:The violence against Muslims in this country that was aforementioned… The 6 year old, his mother, and the 3 college friends is horrible. None of these acts were perpetrated by Jews, btw.

But please don’t say there has been no increase in antisemitism. The ugliness is everywhere. Including in Yonkers NY where a Jewish HS ( The Leffell School) basketball team was playing Roosevelt HS.

They had to stop the game because the players on Roosevelt’s team were roughing them up and playing violently. They also shouted antisemitic slurs.

It seems that one of the slurs they shouted was “Free Palestine” during the game, while another one was “I’m pro-Hamas you f%#^*ing Jew”. Let’s just see if they suffer any consequences.

https://twitter.com/tararosenblum/status/1744019690412777848?s=46&t=XhMk6KgBaubAd8DNh_wEeQ


I am sure there is an increase in antisemitism. The behavior at the basketball game is horrible, especially roughing up other players. "Free Palestine" is not antisemitic (one can be sympathetic to Palestinians' political aspirations without having any animosity toward Jews), but the other statement you mention is repugnant. Nobody should say that, and I hope the players will be disciplined.


https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/08/us/new-york-high-school-basketball-investigation-antisemitic-comment/index.html

Free Palestine is not, nor will it ever be, an anti-semitic remark.

And yet a coach and a player suffered IMMEDIATE and SERIOUS consequences - which is exactly what happens EVERY TIME anyone dares to criticize the sacred cow / the 21st century Voldemort / whatever.

This douchenozzle PP jazz hands'd away the FACT of a 6 year old kid being savagely slaughtered in a murderous act of Islamophobia, the FACT of three young men being sprayed with bullets in another murderous act of Islamophobia (one of them now paralyzed), the FACT of a deranged Jewish school teacher threatening to behead a student in yet another act of Islamophobic violence ... because some kids were scared of loud noises on library doors that one time. They asserted that certain language was used (there's no evidence of that, apparently), they asserted that the other team was "roughed up" (there's no evidence of that, apparently). All because Hasbara, and one group's seemingly never-ending campaign to slander critics of Israel and cast itself as victims.

Sincerely, why? Why do we have to deal with this insanity?


You omitted the part where the suspended basketball player said to the Jewish players “you fing Jew”. What does a teenage girl basketball player have to do with the conflict? All didn’t mention how the team tried to rough up the Jewish basketball team. Well deserved firing and suspension.


What doIvy League presidents have to do with the current conflict?


So it’s ok to call teenage girls “fking” Jews now? Got it, pos.


Did you read the latest update. The student who wrote the story that slurs were used has been unveiled as a liar by the adults who were there, on both sides. Sad, but par.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More from the Jerusalem Post;

“Gazan civilians have testified to officers of the IDF's Unit 504 how Hamas murdered Gazan civilians who tried to get help from UNRWA and that Hamas terrorists steal food from US aid organizations and seize civilian properties for military use.

In one recorded call, a Gazan civilian testified that Hamas murdered his cousin because he tried to seek help from UNRWA. In another conversation, a civilian said he does not leave his home because he fears Hamas will seize it and use the property to fire toward Israel and destroy his house.

One civilian is heard on a recording saying, "When will you get rid of [Hamas]? They killed my cousin yesterday because he went to UNRWA."”

What a sick entity is this Hamas.


Sure. But how do you justify the fact that that poor civilian is just as likely to be killed by Israel. I’m not sure how you can think that IDF is not harming more Palestinians than Hamas.


We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas used them as human shields.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas used schools, residential areas, hospitals, refugee camps to launch attacks at the IDF.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because of misfired Hamas rockets blowing up in civilian areas.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas shot them for trying to get the UN food and humanitarian aid that Hamas refused to distribute to them.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas took and hoarded medicines for themselves while injured civilians went without.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas took and hoarded food and water for themselves, while civilians went without.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because they were caught in the crossfire while Hamas fought IDF.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because their homes collapsed because Hamas tunneled underneath them.
and so on...

But we do know that ALL of those things are happening, and we also know that in every case the numbers are not small. Hamas is killing many, many Palestinians. Thousands. I'm not sure how you can think Hamas is not responsible for many, many Palestinian deaths.

Thank you for articulating this so clearly.


Please re-read the post and consider who pulls the trigger.

If you agree with this post still you are basically saying it’s the high schoolers in Columbine who were mean to the shooters’ own fault they were slaughtered.

The entity who pulls the trigger is the one who causes the death.
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Anonymous wrote:The violence against Muslims in this country that was aforementioned… The 6 year old, his mother, and the 3 college friends is horrible. None of these acts were perpetrated by Jews, btw.

But please don’t say there has been no increase in antisemitism. The ugliness is everywhere. Including in Yonkers NY where a Jewish HS ( The Leffell School) basketball team was playing Roosevelt HS.

They had to stop the game because the players on Roosevelt’s team were roughing them up and playing violently. They also shouted antisemitic slurs.

It seems that one of the slurs they shouted was “Free Palestine” during the game, while another one was “I’m pro-Hamas you f%#^*ing Jew”. Let’s just see if they suffer any consequences.

https://twitter.com/tararosenblum/status/1744019690412777848?s=46&t=XhMk6KgBaubAd8DNh_wEeQ


I am sure there is an increase in antisemitism. The behavior at the basketball game is horrible, especially roughing up other players. "Free Palestine" is not antisemitic (one can be sympathetic to Palestinians' political aspirations without having any animosity toward Jews), but the other statement you mention is repugnant. Nobody should say that, and I hope the players will be disciplined.


https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/08/us/new-york-high-school-basketball-investigation-antisemitic-comment/index.html

Free Palestine is not, nor will it ever be, an anti-semitic remark.

And yet a coach and a player suffered IMMEDIATE and SERIOUS consequences - which is exactly what happens EVERY TIME anyone dares to criticize the sacred cow / the 21st century Voldemort / whatever.

This douchenozzle PP jazz hands'd away the FACT of a 6 year old kid being savagely slaughtered in a murderous act of Islamophobia, the FACT of three young men being sprayed with bullets in another murderous act of Islamophobia (one of them now paralyzed), the FACT of a deranged Jewish school teacher threatening to behead a student in yet another act of Islamophobic violence ... because some kids were scared of loud noises on library doors that one time. They asserted that certain language was used (there's no evidence of that, apparently), they asserted that the other team was "roughed up" (there's no evidence of that, apparently). All because Hasbara, and one group's seemingly never-ending campaign to slander critics of Israel and cast itself as victims.

Sincerely, why? Why do we have to deal with this insanity?


You omitted the part where the suspended basketball player said to the Jewish players “you fing Jew”. What does a teenage girl basketball player have to do with the conflict? All didn’t mention how the team tried to rough up the Jewish basketball team. Well deserved firing and suspension.


What doIvy League presidents have to do with the current conflict?


So it’s ok to call teenage girls “fking” Jews now? Got it, pos.


Did you read the latest update. The student who wrote the story that slurs were used has been unveiled as a liar by the adults who were there, on both sides. Sad, but par.


Did you miss this part in the Mayor and the superintendent’s briefing?

After a thorough review of videos taken at the game and interviews with those who witnessed the incident, the Yonkers Public Schools dismissed the coach and one player from the Roosevelt basketball team. The investigation is ongoing. Should the District determine other students were involved in the incident, further action would be taken by the school District where appropriate.
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Anonymous wrote:Hi all. I have a question but I don’t want to ask publicly because it might be dumb. I do not understand why the Palestinians - at a minimum the women and children - cannot be relocated to a refugee camp?

It seems to me we all can agree that Palestinian children are INNOCENT. Can the other countries not work together to create and transport them to a refugee camp, maybe in Egypt or Lebanon? It’s nuts that children are still in harms way.


First, and unfortunately, we can’t all seem to agree that Palestinian children are innocent. That’s why theres so much vocal defense of the bombing of civilian infrastructure/indiscriminate killing.

But the reason they cannot all be “transported” to Egypt or Lebanon is because they would never be allowed to return to Gaza or the West Bank. They would become permanently stateless. Forcible deportation is a war crime (goes by the name of “ethnic cleansing”) and while the Israeli government is pushing hard for such cleansing to take place, the neighboring states are not willing to be party to a war crime.


So it’s best to leave them in harms way? Interestingly most countries offered Ukrainians a way out of Ukraine, knowing that most likely they will never return to the occupied areas. Such an idiotic argument, we would rather let them die …


Or you can stop bombing. Just a thought.


"Bombing" has largely been replaced by targeted drone strikes, it would appear. Maybe not all of it, but a whole lot. And of course, Hamas is fully capable of ending the conflict by stopping. Until then, the IDF will pursue its goals of dismantling Hamas.


Yes I see, doing a great job of eliminating these pesky Al-Dahdouh children with the drone strikes. Hamas, not so much. Reporter’s kids, yes.


The IDF targets the families of those who speak out. They want to intimidate other journalists and poets from speaking up against Israel. That's why they butchered Al-Dahdouh's 15yo and 7yo children and his 18-month-old grandson. It takes incredible courage for Palestinians to speak out against their oppressors, given what they have to risk. Practicing free speech means you and your children and grandchildren could be murdered.


They’ve killed more journalists and their families than Hamas in Gaza. I guess their battle is with the press. They don’t want the cameras on the injured and maimed because they are burned severely . Israel burned its own citizens severely on 10/7 as well when they bombed the kibbutz because they were too ineffective or intimidated to go to Hamas face to face house by house . This is Israeli eyewitness’ words. The government left them to fend for themselves for six hours . Some Hamas eben got so bored they told them to call the police or military so they can arrive and nothing until an aerial bombing of Beeri kibbutz by Israel.


This is outrageously false. What, so 10/7 was a false flag, IDF killed, burned and maimed 1200 of its own people while Hamas sat at home in Gaza, knitting blankets, reading stories to children and feeding the homeless? ABSOLUTELY false. There is a ton of video, there are photos, there is evidence, there are captured Hamas militants who admit doing it and take credit for doing it. It's utterly outrageous, false and unbelievable that you are trying to make these insane and repeatedly debunked claims. You should be ashamed. Your credibility is ZERO.


I didn’t say it was a false flag or that Hamas were innocent. My credibility is not ZERO. I got these stories from Israeli media. Multiple sources.


Just three days ago survivors of Beeri were calling for an investigation to Israel’s tank shelling of the kibbutz that day that they say killed many Israelis.

Just admit the IDF is not ready for primetime when it comes to ground combat and even kills their own civilians during war due to the Hannibal Directive which was applied on 10/7.


[url] https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2024-01-08/ty-article-opinion/the-idf-must-investigate-the-kibbutz-beeri-tank-fire-incident-right-now/0000018c-e5b8-d765-ab9d-f5fd1f830000

https://www.timesofisrael.com/families-of-13-people-killed-in-october-7-kibbutz-beeri-firefight-demand-probe/amp/

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2023-12-13/ty-article-opinion/.premium/if-israel-used-a-procedure-against-its-citizens-we-need-to-talk-about-it-now/0000018c-6383-de43-affd-f783212e0000

Colonel Nof Erez said 10/7 used a “mass Hannibal Directive” to neutralize /destroy Hamas.
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-of-soldiers-stood-outside-beeri-as-massacre-took-place-survivor-says/amp/

Israel Defense Forces troops refused to engage terrorists in Kibbutz Be’eri on October 7 and left members of the kibbutz to fight them off alone, amember of the community’s civilian security team recounted.

“The thing I remember the most, and the most traumatizing thing for me from this ordeal, was [being evacuated after hours of fighting and] arriving at the entrance to the kibbutz and seeing 500 soldiers stationed in an organized and orderly manner, standing and looking at us,” Yair Avital, one of the surviving members of the kibbutz’s security team, told Channel 12 in a segment aired on Wednesday, referring to the situation at 6.30 on the evening of the massacre.

Be’eri was one of the hardest-hit communities on that Saturday. More than 10 percent of its 1,200 residents were wiped out when some 3,000 Hamas terrorists stormed across the Gaza border into Israel, killing 1,400 people in southern towns, army bases and at a music festival, injuring more than 5,400 and taking at least 240 hostages.

Speaking to Channel 12 from the charred remains of the kibbutz, Avital and other surviving members of the security team recounted their ordeal and the way they say they were abandoned by the IDF


By 7:30 a.m., less than an hour after the terrorists entered the kibbutz through its main entrance and through holes in the fence, two members of the security team were dead and another three were wounded, Avital recalled.

It was at that point that five police officers arrived at the scene for the first time, each with nothing more than a handgun. Realizing that they were ill-equipped, they withdrew to get more weapons. But as the scenes from Be’eri repeated themselves across the Gaza border communities, they were reassigned to other locations and didn’t return.

You see it with your own eyes, you see terrorists pouring into the kibbutz. Truck after truck driving in here, probably under the influence of drugs,” survivor Elam Maor said. “They were an army with endless ammunition.”

At 9 a.m., a first team of IDF soldiers arrived at the kibbutz, more than two hours after the first terrorists broke through the entrance gate. But the soldiers, a 14-member team from the elite Shaldag unit, were quickly overwhelmed and retreated back to the kibbutz entrance.

On Wednesday, walking through the dental clinic where medics treated the wounded and the security team fought until their bullets ran out on October 7, Avital told Channel 12 what he saw there that morning.

“At this point, Shahar and Eitan [from the security team] are fighting and we feel like we’re winning,” he recounted. “Every one of them who passed by, the guys here killed”.


At 6:30 p.m., IDF troops finally arrived at the clinic, where Avital and the kibbutz nurse, Nirit, were the only survivors.

ive hundred IDF soldiers were outside, organized, with dogs, with equipment, weapons, and armored vehicles; they were standing outside and not a single one of them is doing anything,” he said.

“I remember shouting at them from the stretcher, ‘They’re slaughtering us! Go in! Save us!’ and none of them looked at me, none of them said anything.

“They kept repeating, ‘The field isn’t sterile, the field isn’t sterile,'” he continued, explaining that the insistence that the area needed to be “sterile” before soldiers could go in was a sign that none of them understood what was happening inside the kibbutz.

“No one understood that the well-known and familiar combat doctrine of the Israel Defense Forces no longer exists,” Avital said. “People here were losing blood every minute, and the army was out there, and didn’t understand what was happening, and it broke my heart.”


It took the IDF two days to complete the evacuation of Kibbutz Be’eri and to ensure that no terrorists remained. Prior to the October 7 massacre, the kibbutz was the largest community of the 25 that make up the Eshkol Regional Council.

What were they doing ? All the hostages wouldn’t have been able to be captured if they handled Hamas earlier



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Anonymous wrote:More from the Jerusalem Post;

“Gazan civilians have testified to officers of the IDF's Unit 504 how Hamas murdered Gazan civilians who tried to get help from UNRWA and that Hamas terrorists steal food from US aid organizations and seize civilian properties for military use.

In one recorded call, a Gazan civilian testified that Hamas murdered his cousin because he tried to seek help from UNRWA. In another conversation, a civilian said he does not leave his home because he fears Hamas will seize it and use the property to fire toward Israel and destroy his house.

One civilian is heard on a recording saying, "When will you get rid of [Hamas]? They killed my cousin yesterday because he went to UNRWA."”

What a sick entity is this Hamas.


Sure. But how do you justify the fact that that poor civilian is just as likely to be killed by Israel. I’m not sure how you can think that IDF is not harming more Palestinians than Hamas.


We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas used them as human shields.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas used schools, residential areas, hospitals, refugee camps to launch attacks at the IDF.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because of misfired Hamas rockets blowing up in civilian areas.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas shot them for trying to get the UN food and humanitarian aid that Hamas refused to distribute to them.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas took and hoarded medicines for themselves while injured civilians went without.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas took and hoarded food and water for themselves, while civilians went without.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because they were caught in the crossfire while Hamas fought IDF.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because their homes collapsed because Hamas tunneled underneath them.
and so on...

But we do know that ALL of those things are happening, and we also know that in every case the numbers are not small. Hamas is killing many, many Palestinians. Thousands. I'm not sure how you can think Hamas is not responsible for many, many Palestinian deaths.


Honestly I feel physically ill with reading your post. If I am confronted with a terrorist using a child as a human shield I WOULD not and COULD not ever shoot. It sickens me that Israel CAN and DOES when Jewish people have been victims time and time again. Israeli Zionists have lost their moral compass.


DP.

If you don’t shoot the terrorist in that situation, odds are that many more innocent people will die.

The equation is 1 innocent life lost vs. the possibility of 5, 10, 20, or 100 innocent lives lost in the future.

I’m not saying it’s an easy choice, but there’s a strong moral argument to be made for shooting the terrorist in your hypothetical.
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Anonymous wrote:More from the Jerusalem Post;

“Gazan civilians have testified to officers of the IDF's Unit 504 how Hamas murdered Gazan civilians who tried to get help from UNRWA and that Hamas terrorists steal food from US aid organizations and seize civilian properties for military use.

In one recorded call, a Gazan civilian testified that Hamas murdered his cousin because he tried to seek help from UNRWA. In another conversation, a civilian said he does not leave his home because he fears Hamas will seize it and use the property to fire toward Israel and destroy his house.

One civilian is heard on a recording saying, "When will you get rid of [Hamas]? They killed my cousin yesterday because he went to UNRWA."”

What a sick entity is this Hamas.


Sure. But how do you justify the fact that that poor civilian is just as likely to be killed by Israel. I’m not sure how you can think that IDF is not harming more Palestinians than Hamas.


We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas used them as human shields.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas used schools, residential areas, hospitals, refugee camps to launch attacks at the IDF.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because of misfired Hamas rockets blowing up in civilian areas.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas shot them for trying to get the UN food and humanitarian aid that Hamas refused to distribute to them.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas took and hoarded medicines for themselves while injured civilians went without.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas took and hoarded food and water for themselves, while civilians went without.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because they were caught in the crossfire while Hamas fought IDF.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because their homes collapsed because Hamas tunneled underneath them.
and so on...

But we do know that ALL of those things are happening, and we also know that in every case the numbers are not small. Hamas is killing many, many Palestinians. Thousands. I'm not sure how you can think Hamas is not responsible for many, many Palestinian deaths.


What a load of bullsh#t. This is all on the IDF and Israel. This is like saying the Holocaust is the fault of the Jews because they cooperated with the Nazi. All you know is this is what the IDF tells you and 99% of it is propaganda. There are credible reports that the IDF can not even find Hamas. We also know that the IDF killed over 22,000 civilians and wounded over 70,000 civilians.

Hamas using human shield nope because the IDF calls in air strikes(but the IDF does use human shields as young as 10 years old- documented). Also IDF rules of engagement are to kill anyone approaching them- see the hostages who were killed.

The IDF targeted hospitals, refugee camps, evacuation routes and safe zone for three reason. First to terrorize the civilians population, second to kill as many Palestinians civilians as they can and finally to they can not find Hamas. The IDF has leveled Gaza and still has not killed a significant number of Hamas. This is the IDF’s own reporting.

There was no misfired rocket killing hundreds. It was a targeted attack using a fuel air bomb by the Israelis. Misfired rockets leave debris unlike a fuel air bomb.

There is no food to distribute and the IDF would target any Hamas fighter they saw.

There are no medical facilities or drugs in Gaza because the IDF systematically destroyed them. 375 health facilities all targeted by the IDF.

This is the same as the Warsaw ghetto uprising.

There are 7 million Jews and 7 million Palestinians in the region. Killing 7 million men, women and children would be greater vs the Holocaust. I guess that is the never again..it will be bigger and we will do the killing!
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Anonymous wrote:The violence against Muslims in this country that was aforementioned… The 6 year old, his mother, and the 3 college friends is horrible. None of these acts were perpetrated by Jews, btw.

But please don’t say there has been no increase in antisemitism. The ugliness is everywhere. Including in Yonkers NY where a Jewish HS ( The Leffell School) basketball team was playing Roosevelt HS.

They had to stop the game because the players on Roosevelt’s team were roughing them up and playing violently. They also shouted antisemitic slurs.

It seems that one of the slurs they shouted was “Free Palestine” during the game, while another one was “I’m pro-Hamas you f%#^*ing Jew”. Let’s just see if they suffer any consequences.

https://twitter.com/tararosenblum/status/1744019690412777848?s=46&t=XhMk6KgBaubAd8DNh_wEeQ


I am sure there is an increase in antisemitism. The behavior at the basketball game is horrible, especially roughing up other players. "Free Palestine" is not antisemitic (one can be sympathetic to Palestinians' political aspirations without having any animosity toward Jews), but the other statement you mention is repugnant. Nobody should say that, and I hope the players will be disciplined.


https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/08/us/new-york-high-school-basketball-investigation-antisemitic-comment/index.html

Free Palestine is not, nor will it ever be, an anti-semitic remark.

And yet a coach and a player suffered IMMEDIATE and SERIOUS consequences - which is exactly what happens EVERY TIME anyone dares to criticize the sacred cow / the 21st century Voldemort / whatever.

This douchenozzle PP jazz hands'd away the FACT of a 6 year old kid being savagely slaughtered in a murderous act of Islamophobia, the FACT of three young men being sprayed with bullets in another murderous act of Islamophobia (one of them now paralyzed), the FACT of a deranged Jewish school teacher threatening to behead a student in yet another act of Islamophobic violence ... because some kids were scared of loud noises on library doors that one time. They asserted that certain language was used (there's no evidence of that, apparently), they asserted that the other team was "roughed up" (there's no evidence of that, apparently). All because Hasbara, and one group's seemingly never-ending campaign to slander critics of Israel and cast itself as victims.

Sincerely, why? Why do we have to deal with this insanity?


You omitted the part where the suspended basketball player said to the Jewish players “you fing Jew”. What does a teenage girl basketball player have to do with the conflict? All didn’t mention how the team tried to rough up the Jewish basketball team. Well deserved firing and suspension.


What doIvy League presidents have to do with the current conflict?


So it’s ok to call teenage girls “fking” Jews now? Got it, pos.


Did you read the latest update. The student who wrote the story that slurs were used has been unveiled as a liar by the adults who were there, on both sides. Sad, but par.


There’s no latest update. But you want to drag teenage girls and justify calling them fing Jews, way to show your antisemitism. Stop making stuff up.
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What I think is going on is that some people out there cannot come to terms with the fact "freedom fighters" committed atrocities on October 7. They lost the moral high ground forever. Not like they ever had it.
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Anonymous wrote:More from the Jerusalem Post;

“Gazan civilians have testified to officers of the IDF's Unit 504 how Hamas murdered Gazan civilians who tried to get help from UNRWA and that Hamas terrorists steal food from US aid organizations and seize civilian properties for military use.

In one recorded call, a Gazan civilian testified that Hamas murdered his cousin because he tried to seek help from UNRWA. In another conversation, a civilian said he does not leave his home because he fears Hamas will seize it and use the property to fire toward Israel and destroy his house.

One civilian is heard on a recording saying, "When will you get rid of [Hamas]? They killed my cousin yesterday because he went to UNRWA."”

What a sick entity is this Hamas.


Sure. But how do you justify the fact that that poor civilian is just as likely to be killed by Israel. I’m not sure how you can think that IDF is not harming more Palestinians than Hamas.


We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas used them as human shields.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas used schools, residential areas, hospitals, refugee camps to launch attacks at the IDF.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because of misfired Hamas rockets blowing up in civilian areas.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas shot them for trying to get the UN food and humanitarian aid that Hamas refused to distribute to them.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas took and hoarded medicines for themselves while injured civilians went without.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas took and hoarded food and water for themselves, while civilians went without.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because they were caught in the crossfire while Hamas fought IDF.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because their homes collapsed because Hamas tunneled underneath them.
and so on...

But we do know that ALL of those things are happening, and we also know that in every case the numbers are not small. Hamas is killing many, many Palestinians. Thousands. I'm not sure how you can think Hamas is not responsible for many, many Palestinian deaths.


What a load of bullsh#t. This is all on the IDF and Israel. This is like saying the Holocaust is the fault of the Jews because they cooperated with the Nazi. All you know is this is what the IDF tells you and 99% of it is propaganda. There are credible reports that the IDF can not even find Hamas. We also know that the IDF killed over 22,000 civilians and wounded over 70,000 civilians.

Hamas using human shield nope because the IDF calls in air strikes(but the IDF does use human shields as young as 10 years old- documented). Also IDF rules of engagement are to kill anyone approaching them- see the hostages who were killed.

The IDF targeted hospitals, refugee camps, evacuation routes and safe zone for three reason. First to terrorize the civilians population, second to kill as many Palestinians civilians as they can and finally to they can not find Hamas. The IDF has leveled Gaza and still has not killed a significant number of Hamas. This is the IDF’s own reporting.

There was no misfired rocket killing hundreds. It was a targeted attack using a fuel air bomb by the Israelis. Misfired rockets leave debris unlike a fuel air bomb.

There is no food to distribute and the IDF would target any Hamas fighter they saw.

There are no medical facilities or drugs in Gaza because the IDF systematically destroyed them. 375 health facilities all targeted by the IDF.

This is the same as the Warsaw ghetto uprising.

There are 7 million Jews and 7 million Palestinians in the region. Killing 7 million men, women and children would be greater vs the Holocaust. I guess that is the never again..it will be bigger and we will do the killing!


They target evacuation routes and refugee camps because they don’t know where Hamas is really. They assume they are everywhere so it’s better to just blow things up and hope for the best.

It’s not a smart military maneuver at all
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Anonymous wrote:More from the Jerusalem Post;

“Gazan civilians have testified to officers of the IDF's Unit 504 how Hamas murdered Gazan civilians who tried to get help from UNRWA and that Hamas terrorists steal food from US aid organizations and seize civilian properties for military use.

In one recorded call, a Gazan civilian testified that Hamas murdered his cousin because he tried to seek help from UNRWA. In another conversation, a civilian said he does not leave his home because he fears Hamas will seize it and use the property to fire toward Israel and destroy his house.

One civilian is heard on a recording saying, "When will you get rid of [Hamas]? They killed my cousin yesterday because he went to UNRWA."”

What a sick entity is this Hamas.


Sure. But how do you justify the fact that that poor civilian is just as likely to be killed by Israel. I’m not sure how you can think that IDF is not harming more Palestinians than Hamas.


We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas used them as human shields.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas used schools, residential areas, hospitals, refugee camps to launch attacks at the IDF.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because of misfired Hamas rockets blowing up in civilian areas.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas shot them for trying to get the UN food and humanitarian aid that Hamas refused to distribute to them.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas took and hoarded medicines for themselves while injured civilians went without.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because Hamas took and hoarded food and water for themselves, while civilians went without.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because they were caught in the crossfire while Hamas fought IDF.
We don't know exactly how many civilians died because their homes collapsed because Hamas tunneled underneath them.
and so on...

But we do know that ALL of those things are happening, and we also know that in every case the numbers are not small. Hamas is killing many, many Palestinians. Thousands. I'm not sure how you can think Hamas is not responsible for many, many Palestinian deaths.


What a load of bullsh#t. This is all on the IDF and Israel. This is like saying the Holocaust is the fault of the Jews because they cooperated with the Nazi. All you know is this is what the IDF tells you and 99% of it is propaganda. There are credible reports that the IDF can not even find Hamas. We also know that the IDF killed over 22,000 civilians and wounded over 70,000 civilians.

Hamas using human shield nope because the IDF calls in air strikes(but the IDF does use human shields as young as 10 years old- documented). Also IDF rules of engagement are to kill anyone approaching them- see the hostages who were killed.

The IDF targeted hospitals, refugee camps, evacuation routes and safe zone for three reason. First to terrorize the civilians population, second to kill as many Palestinians civilians as they can and finally to they can not find Hamas. The IDF has leveled Gaza and still has not killed a significant number of Hamas. This is the IDF’s own reporting.

There was no misfired rocket killing hundreds. It was a targeted attack using a fuel air bomb by the Israelis. Misfired rockets leave debris unlike a fuel air bomb.

There is no food to distribute and the IDF would target any Hamas fighter they saw.

There are no medical facilities or drugs in Gaza because the IDF systematically destroyed them. 375 health facilities all targeted by the IDF.

This is the same as the Warsaw ghetto uprising.

There are 7 million Jews and 7 million Palestinians in the region. Killing 7 million men, women and children would be greater vs the Holocaust. I guess that is the never again..it will be bigger and we will do the killing!


They target evacuation routes and refugee camps because they don’t know where Hamas is really. They assume they are everywhere so it’s better to just blow things up and hope for the best.

It’s not a smart military maneuver at all


Uhhh, that is not remotely what they are doing.
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Anonymous wrote:The violence against Muslims in this country that was aforementioned… The 6 year old, his mother, and the 3 college friends is horrible. None of these acts were perpetrated by Jews, btw.

But please don’t say there has been no increase in antisemitism. The ugliness is everywhere. Including in Yonkers NY where a Jewish HS ( The Leffell School) basketball team was playing Roosevelt HS.

They had to stop the game because the players on Roosevelt’s team were roughing them up and playing violently. They also shouted antisemitic slurs.

It seems that one of the slurs they shouted was “Free Palestine” during the game, while another one was “I’m pro-Hamas you f%#^*ing Jew”. Let’s just see if they suffer any consequences.

https://twitter.com/tararosenblum/status/1744019690412777848?s=46&t=XhMk6KgBaubAd8DNh_wEeQ


I am sure there is an increase in antisemitism. The behavior at the basketball game is horrible, especially roughing up other players. "Free Palestine" is not antisemitic (one can be sympathetic to Palestinians' political aspirations without having any animosity toward Jews), but the other statement you mention is repugnant. Nobody should say that, and I hope the players will be disciplined.


https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/08/us/new-york-high-school-basketball-investigation-antisemitic-comment/index.html

Free Palestine is not, nor will it ever be, an anti-semitic remark.

And yet a coach and a player suffered IMMEDIATE and SERIOUS consequences - which is exactly what happens EVERY TIME anyone dares to criticize the sacred cow / the 21st century Voldemort / whatever.

This douchenozzle PP jazz hands'd away the FACT of a 6 year old kid being savagely slaughtered in a murderous act of Islamophobia, the FACT of three young men being sprayed with bullets in another murderous act of Islamophobia (one of them now paralyzed), the FACT of a deranged Jewish school teacher threatening to behead a student in yet another act of Islamophobic violence ... because some kids were scared of loud noises on library doors that one time. They asserted that certain language was used (there's no evidence of that, apparently), they asserted that the other team was "roughed up" (there's no evidence of that, apparently). All because Hasbara, and one group's seemingly never-ending campaign to slander critics of Israel and cast itself as victims.

Sincerely, why? Why do we have to deal with this insanity?


You omitted the part where the suspended basketball player said to the Jewish players “you fing Jew”. What does a teenage girl basketball player have to do with the conflict? All didn’t mention how the team tried to rough up the Jewish basketball team. Well deserved firing and suspension.


What doIvy League presidents have to do with the current conflict?


So it’s ok to call teenage girls “fking” Jews now? Got it, pos.


Did you read the latest update. The student who wrote the story that slurs were used has been unveiled as a liar by the adults who were there, on both sides. Sad, but par.


There’s no latest update. But you want to drag teenage girls and justify calling them fing Jews, way to show your antisemitism. Stop making stuff up.


Read the cnn article, it was updated Monday. In the investigation into the incident, no adults corroborate the statement you say was made, only the Free Palestine statement which, as other have pointed out, isn’t anti-Semitic.
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Anonymous wrote:The violence against Muslims in this country that was aforementioned… The 6 year old, his mother, and the 3 college friends is horrible. None of these acts were perpetrated by Jews, btw.

But please don’t say there has been no increase in antisemitism. The ugliness is everywhere. Including in Yonkers NY where a Jewish HS ( The Leffell School) basketball team was playing Roosevelt HS.

They had to stop the game because the players on Roosevelt’s team were roughing them up and playing violently. They also shouted antisemitic slurs.

It seems that one of the slurs they shouted was “Free Palestine” during the game, while another one was “I’m pro-Hamas you f%#^*ing Jew”. Let’s just see if they suffer any consequences.

https://twitter.com/tararosenblum/status/1744019690412777848?s=46&t=XhMk6KgBaubAd8DNh_wEeQ


I am sure there is an increase in antisemitism. The behavior at the basketball game is horrible, especially roughing up other players. "Free Palestine" is not antisemitic (one can be sympathetic to Palestinians' political aspirations without having any animosity toward Jews), but the other statement you mention is repugnant. Nobody should say that, and I hope the players will be disciplined.


https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/08/us/new-york-high-school-basketball-investigation-antisemitic-comment/index.html

Free Palestine is not, nor will it ever be, an anti-semitic remark.

And yet a coach and a player suffered IMMEDIATE and SERIOUS consequences - which is exactly what happens EVERY TIME anyone dares to criticize the sacred cow / the 21st century Voldemort / whatever.

This douchenozzle PP jazz hands'd away the FACT of a 6 year old kid being savagely slaughtered in a murderous act of Islamophobia, the FACT of three young men being sprayed with bullets in another murderous act of Islamophobia (one of them now paralyzed), the FACT of a deranged Jewish school teacher threatening to behead a student in yet another act of Islamophobic violence ... because some kids were scared of loud noises on library doors that one time. They asserted that certain language was used (there's no evidence of that, apparently), they asserted that the other team was "roughed up" (there's no evidence of that, apparently). All because Hasbara, and one group's seemingly never-ending campaign to slander critics of Israel and cast itself as victims.

Sincerely, why? Why do we have to deal with this insanity?


You omitted the part where the suspended basketball player said to the Jewish players “you fing Jew”. What does a teenage girl basketball player have to do with the conflict? All didn’t mention how the team tried to rough up the Jewish basketball team. Well deserved firing and suspension.


What doIvy League presidents have to do with the current conflict?


So it’s ok to call teenage girls “fking” Jews now? Got it, pos.


Did you read the latest update. The student who wrote the story that slurs were used has been unveiled as a liar by the adults who were there, on both sides. Sad, but par.


There’s no latest update. But you want to drag teenage girls and justify calling them fing Jews, way to show your antisemitism. Stop making stuff up.


https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/08/us/new-york-high-school-basketball-investigation-antisemitic-comment/index.html

It may turn out that more was said and/or done, but as it stands, it’s looking like Robin Bosworth is a liar, and that she fabricated (or at least greatly embellished) what went down.
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Anonymous wrote:The violence against Muslims in this country that was aforementioned… The 6 year old, his mother, and the 3 college friends is horrible. None of these acts were perpetrated by Jews, btw.

But please don’t say there has been no increase in antisemitism. The ugliness is everywhere. Including in Yonkers NY where a Jewish HS ( The Leffell School) basketball team was playing Roosevelt HS.

They had to stop the game because the players on Roosevelt’s team were roughing them up and playing violently. They also shouted antisemitic slurs.

It seems that one of the slurs they shouted was “Free Palestine” during the game, while another one was “I’m pro-Hamas you f%#^*ing Jew”. Let’s just see if they suffer any consequences.

https://twitter.com/tararosenblum/status/1744019690412777848?s=46&t=XhMk6KgBaubAd8DNh_wEeQ


I am sure there is an increase in antisemitism. The behavior at the basketball game is horrible, especially roughing up other players. "Free Palestine" is not antisemitic (one can be sympathetic to Palestinians' political aspirations without having any animosity toward Jews), but the other statement you mention is repugnant. Nobody should say that, and I hope the players will be disciplined.


https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/08/us/new-york-high-school-basketball-investigation-antisemitic-comment/index.html

Free Palestine is not, nor will it ever be, an anti-semitic remark.

And yet a coach and a player suffered IMMEDIATE and SERIOUS consequences - which is exactly what happens EVERY TIME anyone dares to criticize the sacred cow / the 21st century Voldemort / whatever.

This douchenozzle PP jazz hands'd away the FACT of a 6 year old kid being savagely slaughtered in a murderous act of Islamophobia, the FACT of three young men being sprayed with bullets in another murderous act of Islamophobia (one of them now paralyzed), the FACT of a deranged Jewish school teacher threatening to behead a student in yet another act of Islamophobic violence ... because some kids were scared of loud noises on library doors that one time. They asserted that certain language was used (there's no evidence of that, apparently), they asserted that the other team was "roughed up" (there's no evidence of that, apparently). All because Hasbara, and one group's seemingly never-ending campaign to slander critics of Israel and cast itself as victims.

Sincerely, why? Why do we have to deal with this insanity?


You omitted the part where the suspended basketball player said to the Jewish players “you fing Jew”. What does a teenage girl basketball player have to do with the conflict? All didn’t mention how the team tried to rough up the Jewish basketball team. Well deserved firing and suspension.


What doIvy League presidents have to do with the current conflict?


So it’s ok to call teenage girls “fking” Jews now? Got it, pos.


Did you read the latest update. The student who wrote the story that slurs were used has been unveiled as a liar by the adults who were there, on both sides. Sad, but par.


There’s no latest update. But you want to drag teenage girls and justify calling them fing Jews, way to show your antisemitism. Stop making stuff up.


https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/08/us/new-york-high-school-basketball-investigation-antisemitic-comment/index.html

It may turn out that more was said and/or done, but as it stands, it’s looking like Robin Bosworth is a liar, and that she fabricated (or at least greatly embellished) what went down.


I read the cnn article. The harassment was bad enough the game was cut half way. And I wonder how you would feel if someone just yelled 9/11 at a brown sports team or China fly at an Asian team. It’s racist then and it’s racist in this case even if the only thing said was free Palestine’s stop defending the indefensible.
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