Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So basically, the shooter was a Groyper. He was right of Kirk. Interesting, what has Nick Fuentes said about his acolyte, if anything.


No, basically he was a leftist who despised Kirk, his viewpoints, and since he was incapable of effectively debating with him - chose to silence him instead.
His own classmates have confirmed that he was left. Raised in a Republican household, but turned left. He has echoed some of the same comments used by leftists - namely, "fascist."
Irony is that he himself is the fascist.


You’re still doing the fascist thing. This has all really gone over your head. You just didn’t get the narrative you were desperate for.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So basically, the shooter was a Groyper. He was right of Kirk. Interesting, what has Nick Fuentes said about his acolyte, if anything.


No, basically he was a leftist who despised Kirk, his viewpoints, and since he was incapable of effectively debating with him - chose to silence him instead.
His own classmates have confirmed that he was left. Raised in a Republican household, but turned left. He has echoed some of the same comments used by leftists - namely, "fascist."
Irony is that he himself is the fascist.

Nope he was a Groyper. Own it.


They're hanging their hats on a retracted Guardian article from a guy who claimed he hadn't spoken ro Robinson in 4 years, then the Guardian had tomretract that article because it turned out the source was fake.

Meanwhile we have tons of evidence his family was very MAGA and the shooter scratched Groyper memes on the bullets.

So right wingers called for war on anyone who doesn't worship Trump and it turns out it was a guy who was even further right. So the right rained a bunch of violent rhetoric down on everyone when... that's exactly what killed Charlie Kirk. The call came from inside the house.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I saw snips of Charlie Kirk’s wife speaking and I am wondering how she could keep the organization going considering Turning Point’s views on women. It seems like she wants to run it which is counter to the whole ideology.


MAGA will go along with it despite the obvious hole that you note.


I don’t know, I feel like a big part of the appeal was the submissive role of women. Can’t see them listening to her.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I saw snips of Charlie Kirk’s wife speaking and I am wondering how she could keep the organization going considering Turning Point’s views on women. It seems like she wants to run it which is counter to the whole ideology.


MAGA will go along with it despite the obvious hole that you note.


I don’t know, I feel like a big part of the appeal was the submissive role of women. Can’t see them listening to her.


It's MAGA. cognative dissonance is a feature, not a bug.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So basically, the shooter was a Groyper. He was right of Kirk. Interesting, what has Nick Fuentes said about his acolyte, if anything.


No, basically he was a leftist who despised Kirk, his viewpoints, and since he was incapable of effectively debating with him - chose to silence him instead.
His own classmates have confirmed that he was left. Raised in a Republican household, but turned left. He has echoed some of the same comments used by leftists - namely, "fascist."
Irony is that he himself is the fascist.


The Guardian retracted the story "quoting" the high school classmate. Also, a lot can change for someone over 6-7 years, particularly if they are in the discord/4chan internet vortex. So, given the Guardian story no longer hold, what do you base that the shooter is a leftist given the grandmother said they were all republicans? The obvious answer, given he follows Laura Loomer and others on Twitter, is that he was not a leftist by rather is to the right of Charlie Kirk and took Loomer's disassociated to heart.


Reports from major outlets like The Salt Lake Tribune, Newsweek, and WIRED indicate that Robinson's social media presence was sparse, with no confirmed X account identified by authorities or journalists as of September 13, 2025. While unverified screenshots of alleged profiles have circulated online amid misinformation (e.g., fake photos of him in Trump attire), no credible sources link him to following far-right figures like Loomer (@LauraLoomer
) or Fuentes (@NickJFuentes
). His known online activity was limited to Discord messages about the rifle used in the shooting and a possible Reddit presence described by a high school classmate as "leftist" and "extreme," but nothing on X. Investigations continue, but current evidence shows no such follows.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So basically, the shooter was a Groyper. He was right of Kirk. Interesting, what has Nick Fuentes said about his acolyte, if anything.


No, basically he was a leftist who despised Kirk, his viewpoints, and since he was incapable of effectively debating with him - chose to silence him instead.
His own classmates have confirmed that he was left. Raised in a Republican household, but turned left. He has echoed some of the same comments used by leftists - namely, "fascist."
Irony is that he himself is the fascist.


The Guardian retracted the story "quoting" the high school classmate. Also, a lot can change for someone over 6-7 years, particularly if they are in the discord/4chan internet vortex. So, given the Guardian story no longer hold, what do you base that the shooter is a leftist given the grandmother said they were all republicans? The obvious answer, given he follows Laura Loomer and others on Twitter, is that he was not a leftist by rather is to the right of Charlie Kirk and took Loomer's disassociated to heart.


Reports from major outlets like The Salt Lake Tribune, Newsweek, and WIRED indicate that Robinson's social media presence was sparse, with no confirmed X account identified by authorities or journalists as of September 13, 2025. While unverified screenshots of alleged profiles have circulated online amid misinformation (e.g., fake photos of him in Trump attire), no credible sources link him to following far-right figures like Loomer (@LauraLoomer
) or Fuentes (@NickJFuentes
). His known online activity was limited to Discord messages about the rifle used in the shooting and a possible Reddit presence described by a high school classmate as "leftist" and "extreme," but nothing on X. Investigations continue, but current evidence shows no such follows.



The Groyper memes inscribed in the casings reveal that he was deeply immersed in online culture.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When I saw Tyler Robinson's booking photo, I thought it was that Catholic school kid who had that standoff with the Native American in DC during Trump's first term. I had to look up his name, Nick Sandmann. They look pretty similar!


wow, they really do. especially at certain angles.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So when posters say it is the leftists who are the enemy. What do you want to happen to these leftists?


I want them to gain a sense ot humanity and respect for their fellow Americans. I want them to realize that America is great and should be saved.


I’d say the left understands humanity and respect much better than the right, who tells us empathy is bad and whose entire platform revolves around owning the libs. Look in the mirror first.
Anonymous
The widow speaks. Who are the “evil doers”?


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The widow speaks. Who are the “evil doers”?




Her name is an unfortunate grouping of letters when skimming.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The widow speaks. Who are the “evil doers”?



She speaks in Bible-code and could mean anything she wants it to mean. She will try to curate Kirk's legacy and everyone who opposes this move will be evil doer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The widow speaks. Who are the “evil doers”?



Just a wild guess, but I’m thinking she means whoever was involved in killing her husband?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So when posters say it is the leftists who are the enemy. What do you want to happen to these leftists?


I want them to gain a sense ot humanity and respect for their fellow Americans. I want them to realize that America is great and should be saved.


I’d say the left understands humanity and respect much better than the right, who tells us empathy is bad and whose entire platform revolves around owning the libs. Look in the mirror first.


That's the thing. Republicans get innpower and they actively start attacking the other half of the country. The President shared an AI image of himself napalmijg Chicago.

Democrats get into power and they expand healthcare access and social safety nets.

So finding out this shooter was even more right wing doesn't surprise me at all. The message is sent top down. What party sends out Christmas cards and campaign flyers with them holding guns? What party actively calls for civil war? It's not the Dems.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So basically, the shooter was a Groyper. He was right of Kirk. Interesting, what has Nick Fuentes said about his acolyte, if anything.


No, basically he was a leftist who despised Kirk, his viewpoints, and since he was incapable of effectively debating with him - chose to silence him instead.
His own classmates have confirmed that he was left. Raised in a Republican household, but turned left. He has echoed some of the same comments used by leftists - namely, "fascist."
Irony is that he himself is the fascist.

I don’t know any liberal or democrat for that matter who likes, moreover loves Looney Loomer. This shooter was an admirer of Loomer. I wonder if her attacking Kirk signaled to the shooter Kirk was a traitor to their cause and needed to be taken out. Loomer basically puts political hits on other republicans, Kirk was no different. Far-right on Far-right assassins.


This is obviously what happened. It is clear the shooter is a Loomer/Fuentes acolyte, not a leftist, despite what all the MAGAs are trying to claim.


All those carefully scripted, overacted, highly emotional videos they made about the Leftists and the
Libruls having "pushed them too far this time" are doing to age like a wet fart. Embarrassing.


+1 And complete dipshits like Dinesh D;Souza, Loomer and others yammering about how this happened because of kids like the shooter being groomed and indoctrinated in radical leftist ideology by college professors. 1. Utah Valley University where the shooter went is one of the most conservative colleges in the country. 2. The shooter barely made it one semester before dropping out, making it highly unlikely he was groomed and indoctrinated by a leftist professor.

Complete narrative fail.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you are MAGA and you’re in denial that these radicals are your people, read this. If you have a son, read this:

https://jaredyatessexton.substack.com/p/the-threat-no-one-wants-to-talk-about


I’m bringing this article from page 297 up to here. This is a really important and good article about the online radicalization going on - primarily aimed at young men.

It is very clear this is the world that the killer lived in. His bright future somehow got derailed that first semester at college, he retreated into the online world and was increasingly isolated from society. The Fuentes/ Loomer world gave him some kind of validation that the loneliness he faced wasn’t his fault and a place he could channel his anger.

I also fear that although it is very clear this is what happened, that the Trump administration/ FBU is going to do all that it can to squelch this story. I wouldn’t put it past them to do a plea deal where if he pleads guilty and claims he was on the left that he can avoid the death penalty. It’s like Jan 6. At first most Republicans were also horrified by it. But then they came up with some talking points that enabled them all to shift the blame and not take responsibility.

So look carefully at what Trump and Patel say. This is a right on right issue that needs to be addressed. Don’t let them blame and vilify the Democrats for their radicalization issue.

And yes, make sure you are talking to your sons. There are a lot of them holed up in their game rooms in dialogue on discord and 4chan about a lot of these vile views.
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