2028 Girls Lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree with posts on Stars/SSSAS girls making Capital. Lots did not. Unfortunately lots of folks think these girls have an advantage in lacrosse but they do not. They have to compete just like everyone else. If you count the numbers they had 1 blue, 4 orange and at least 10 did not make either. Another rumor destroyed by facts.

I would almost go so far as to say this year STARS and STARS/SSSAS girls were at a disadvantage. There were many surprises and disappointments. The culture of this particular group is that the girls are sold the dream of making Capital from the time they are in 3rd grade. That is why it is especially difficult and heartbreaking when they don't make it. I know of some girls from other teams who just hear of Capital and decide to try out. It doesn't have the same meaning to them.

What is clear is that there is demand and enough talent for more high school club programs in the DMV.

I feel for the kids and parents in that situation. The history of girls from Stars making it sounds like it's a decent chance, but not a guarantee. Does the head coach there just do a really good job of overselling the possibility? That's also a weird culture, to prep girls to leave a team. Is there no aspiration for Stars to have a HS team?

The head coach is intertwined with Capital is are some of the assistant coaches. There's a conflict of interest at a minimum. If they put their players on Capital teams, the better SSSAS becomes.

Girls lacrosse is such a weirdly incestuous world, small enough that one continues to trip over the same coaches. It makes the typical travel sports politics that much worse. We are just getting started in this world and already seeing the same faces. Makes me extra cautious not to burn bridges and be respectful to all parents and coaches.

Sounds like you are employing basic best practices in human relations. Probably should do that anyway, regardless if it has lacrosse benefits.

LOL, fair. I would not otherwise be a witch, but I feel like I need to walk on eggshells for fear of pissing off the wrong parent.

It is a small world - especially in this area. Just don’t be the parent yelling from the sideline at the refs, coaches, your kid, other kids, other parents and you’ll be better than half of the parents out there 😉

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree with posts on Stars/SSSAS girls making Capital. Lots did not. Unfortunately lots of folks think these girls have an advantage in lacrosse but they do not. They have to compete just like everyone else. If you count the numbers they had 1 blue, 4 orange and at least 10 did not make either. Another rumor destroyed by facts.

I would almost go so far as to say this year STARS and STARS/SSSAS girls were at a disadvantage. There were many surprises and disappointments. The culture of this particular group is that the girls are sold the dream of making Capital from the time they are in 3rd grade. That is why it is especially difficult and heartbreaking when they don't make it. I know of some girls from other teams who just hear of Capital and decide to try out. It doesn't have the same meaning to them.

What is clear is that there is demand and enough talent for more high school club programs in the DMV.

I feel for the kids and parents in that situation. The history of girls from Stars making it sounds like it's a decent chance, but not a guarantee. Does the head coach there just do a really good job of overselling the possibility? That's also a weird culture, to prep girls to leave a team. Is there no aspiration for Stars to have a HS team?

The head coach is intertwined with Capital is are some of the assistant coaches. There's a conflict of interest at a minimum. If they put their players on Capital teams, the better SSSAS becomes.

Girls lacrosse is such a weirdly incestuous world, small enough that one continues to trip over the same coaches. It makes the typical travel sports politics that much worse. We are just getting started in this world and already seeing the same faces. Makes me extra cautious not to burn bridges and be respectful to all parents and coaches.

Sounds like you are employing basic best practices in human relations. Probably should do that anyway, regardless if it has lacrosse benefits.

LOL, fair. I would not otherwise be a witch, but I feel like I need to walk on eggshells for fear of pissing off the wrong parent.

I think you are actually taking the right approach. It's an important point how small the lax world is, and how you never know how an interaction can help or hurt down the road. You are right to point out that perception of not only the player's character, but the family, and how they interact appears to be very relevant for clubs, high schools, etc. I have seen a good coach or parent relationship pay huge and unexpected dividends for my DD at several key points.

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree with posts on Stars/SSSAS girls making Capital. Lots did not. Unfortunately lots of folks think these girls have an advantage in lacrosse but they do not. They have to compete just like everyone else. If you count the numbers they had 1 blue, 4 orange and at least 10 did not make either. Another rumor destroyed by facts.

I would almost go so far as to say this year STARS and STARS/SSSAS girls were at a disadvantage. There were many surprises and disappointments. The culture of this particular group is that the girls are sold the dream of making Capital from the time they are in 3rd grade. That is why it is especially difficult and heartbreaking when they don't make it. I know of some girls from other teams who just hear of Capital and decide to try out. It doesn't have the same meaning to them.

What is clear is that there is demand and enough talent for more high school club programs in the DMV.

I feel for the kids and parents in that situation. The history of girls from Stars making it sounds like it's a decent chance, but not a guarantee. Does the head coach there just do a really good job of overselling the possibility? That's also a weird culture, to prep girls to leave a team. Is there no aspiration for Stars to have a HS team?

The head coach is intertwined with Capital is are some of the assistant coaches. There's a conflict of interest at a minimum. If they put their players on Capital teams, the better SSSAS becomes.

Girls lacrosse is such a weirdly incestuous world, small enough that one continues to trip over the same coaches. It makes the typical travel sports politics that much worse. We are just getting started in this world and already seeing the same faces. Makes me extra cautious not to burn bridges and be respectful to all parents and coaches.

Sounds like you are employing basic best practices in human relations. Probably should do that anyway, regardless if it has lacrosse benefits.

LOL, fair. I would not otherwise be a witch, but I feel like I need to walk on eggshells for fear of pissing off the wrong parent.

I think you are actually taking the right approach. It's an important point how small the lax world is, and how you never know how an interaction can help or hurt down the road. You are right to point out that perception of not only the player's character, but the family, and how they interact appears to be very relevant for clubs, high schools, etc. I have seen a good coach or parent relationship pay huge and unexpected dividends for my DD at several key points.

+1 - agree with this. I've also seen good players hurt by bad parent behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree with posts on Stars/SSSAS girls making Capital. Lots did not. Unfortunately lots of folks think these girls have an advantage in lacrosse but they do not. They have to compete just like everyone else. If you count the numbers they had 1 blue, 4 orange and at least 10 did not make either. Another rumor destroyed by facts.

I would almost go so far as to say this year STARS and STARS/SSSAS girls were at a disadvantage. There were many surprises and disappointments. The culture of this particular group is that the girls are sold the dream of making Capital from the time they are in 3rd grade. That is why it is especially difficult and heartbreaking when they don't make it. I know of some girls from other teams who just hear of Capital and decide to try out. It doesn't have the same meaning to them.

What is clear is that there is demand and enough talent for more high school club programs in the DMV.

I feel for the kids and parents in that situation. The history of girls from Stars making it sounds like it's a decent chance, but not a guarantee. Does the head coach there just do a really good job of overselling the possibility? That's also a weird culture, to prep girls to leave a team. Is there no aspiration for Stars to have a HS team?

The head coach is intertwined with Capital is are some of the assistant coaches. There's a conflict of interest at a minimum. If they put their players on Capital teams, the better SSSAS becomes.

Girls lacrosse is such a weirdly incestuous world, small enough that one continues to trip over the same coaches. It makes the typical travel sports politics that much worse. We are just getting started in this world and already seeing the same faces. Makes me extra cautious not to burn bridges and be respectful to all parents and coaches.

Sounds like you are employing basic best practices in human relations. Probably should do that anyway, regardless if it has lacrosse benefits.

LOL, fair. I would not otherwise be a witch, but I feel like I need to walk on eggshells for fear of pissing off the wrong parent.

It is a small world - especially in this area. Just don’t be the parent yelling from the sideline at the refs, coaches, your kid, other kids, other parents and you’ll be better than half of the parents out there 😉

Why do coaches and refs get a pass? The players getting ghosted by coaches and rudeness of lack of responses. The inability to identify talent correctly, favoritism, list goes on. What about refs who put players in harms way and doesn't know the game? Time and time again, all that is said is about poor parent behavior, but no one ever addresses the poor behavior of coaches, especially high level program ones.

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree with posts on Stars/SSSAS girls making Capital. Lots did not. Unfortunately lots of folks think these girls have an advantage in lacrosse but they do not. They have to compete just like everyone else. If you count the numbers they had 1 blue, 4 orange and at least 10 did not make either. Another rumor destroyed by facts.

I would almost go so far as to say this year STARS and STARS/SSSAS girls were at a disadvantage. There were many surprises and disappointments. The culture of this particular group is that the girls are sold the dream of making Capital from the time they are in 3rd grade. That is why it is especially difficult and heartbreaking when they don't make it. I know of some girls from other teams who just hear of Capital and decide to try out. It doesn't have the same meaning to them.

What is clear is that there is demand and enough talent for more high school club programs in the DMV.

I feel for the kids and parents in that situation. The history of girls from Stars making it sounds like it's a decent chance, but not a guarantee. Does the head coach there just do a really good job of overselling the possibility? That's also a weird culture, to prep girls to leave a team. Is there no aspiration for Stars to have a HS team?

The head coach is intertwined with Capital is are some of the assistant coaches. There's a conflict of interest at a minimum. If they put their players on Capital teams, the better SSSAS becomes.

Girls lacrosse is such a weirdly incestuous world, small enough that one continues to trip over the same coaches. It makes the typical travel sports politics that much worse. We are just getting started in this world and already seeing the same faces. Makes me extra cautious not to burn bridges and be respectful to all parents and coaches.

Sounds like you are employing basic best practices in human relations. Probably should do that anyway, regardless if it has lacrosse benefits.

LOL, fair. I would not otherwise be a witch, but I feel like I need to walk on eggshells for fear of pissing off the wrong parent.

It is a small world - especially in this area. Just don’t be the parent yelling from the sideline at the refs, coaches, your kid, other kids, other parents and you’ll be better than half of the parents out there 😉

Why do coaches and refs get a pass? The players getting ghosted by coaches and rudeness of lack of responses. The inability to identify talent correctly, favoritism, list goes on. What about refs who put players in harms way and doesn't know the game? Time and time again, all that is said is about poor parent behavior, but no one ever addresses the poor behavior of coaches, especially high level program ones.

Sounds like you should become a coach or ref so we can all benefit from your expertise. The game will be better for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree with posts on Stars/SSSAS girls making Capital. Lots did not. Unfortunately lots of folks think these girls have an advantage in lacrosse but they do not. They have to compete just like everyone else. If you count the numbers they had 1 blue, 4 orange and at least 10 did not make either. Another rumor destroyed by facts.

I would almost go so far as to say this year STARS and STARS/SSSAS girls were at a disadvantage. There were many surprises and disappointments. The culture of this particular group is that the girls are sold the dream of making Capital from the time they are in 3rd grade. That is why it is especially difficult and heartbreaking when they don't make it. I know of some girls from other teams who just hear of Capital and decide to try out. It doesn't have the same meaning to them.

What is clear is that there is demand and enough talent for more high school club programs in the DMV.

Are the SSSAS players not getting developed properly in the MS program?

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I think there is just a lot more talent out there and more athletes are picking up the game. The growth from when SSSAS was the only game in town until now has been awesome for NOVA. Now Capital gets to pick from a wider range of really good players who are not all clustered around the Stars/SSSAS world. So the old fact that this was a sure bet for Capital is now a complete myth.

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree with posts on Stars/SSSAS girls making Capital. Lots did not. Unfortunately lots of folks think these girls have an advantage in lacrosse but they do not. They have to compete just like everyone else. If you count the numbers they had 1 blue, 4 orange and at least 10 did not make either. Another rumor destroyed by facts.

I would almost go so far as to say this year STARS and STARS/SSSAS girls were at a disadvantage. There were many surprises and disappointments. The culture of this particular group is that the girls are sold the dream of making Capital from the time they are in 3rd grade. That is why it is especially difficult and heartbreaking when they don't make it. I know of some girls from other teams who just hear of Capital and decide to try out. It doesn't have the same meaning to them.

What is clear is that there is demand and enough talent for more high school club programs in the DMV.

I feel for the kids and parents in that situation. The history of girls from Stars making it sounds like it's a decent chance, but not a guarantee. Does the head coach there just do a really good job of overselling the possibility? That's also a weird culture, to prep girls to leave a team. Is there no aspiration for Stars to have a HS team?

The head coach is intertwined with Capital is are some of the assistant coaches. There's a conflict of interest at a minimum. If they put their players on Capital teams, the better SSSAS becomes.

Girls lacrosse is such a weirdly incestuous world, small enough that one continues to trip over the same coaches. It makes the typical travel sports politics that much worse. We are just getting started in this world and already seeing the same faces. Makes me extra cautious not to burn bridges and be respectful to all parents and coaches.

Sounds like you are employing basic best practices in human relations. Probably should do that anyway, regardless if it has lacrosse benefits.

LOL, fair. I would not otherwise be a witch, but I feel like I need to walk on eggshells for fear of pissing off the wrong parent.

It is a small world - especially in this area. Just don’t be the parent yelling from the sideline at the refs, coaches, your kid, other kids, other parents and you’ll be better than half of the parents out there 😉

Why do coaches and refs get a pass? The players getting ghosted by coaches and rudeness of lack of responses. The inability to identify talent correctly, favoritism, list goes on. What about refs who put players in harms way and doesn't know the game? Time and time again, all that is said is about poor parent behavior, but no one ever addresses the poor behavior of coaches, especially high level program ones.

Sounds like you should become a coach or ref so we can all benefit from your expertise. The game will be better for it.

There it is, the same old tired response. Thanks Captain Ref!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I disagree with posts on Stars/SSSAS girls making Capital. Lots did not. Unfortunately lots of folks think these girls have an advantage in lacrosse but they do not. They have to compete just like everyone else. If you count the numbers they had 1 blue, 4 orange and at least 10 did not make either. Another rumor destroyed by facts.

I would almost go so far as to say this year STARS and STARS/SSSAS girls were at a disadvantage. There were many surprises and disappointments. The culture of this particular group is that the girls are sold the dream of making Capital from the time they are in 3rd grade. That is why it is especially difficult and heartbreaking when they don't make it. I know of some girls from other teams who just hear of Capital and decide to try out. It doesn't have the same meaning to them.

What is clear is that there is demand and enough talent for more high school club programs in the DMV.

I feel for the kids and parents in that situation. The history of girls from Stars making it sounds like it's a decent chance, but not a guarantee. Does the head coach there just do a really good job of overselling the possibility? That's also a weird culture, to prep girls to leave a team. Is there no aspiration for Stars to have a HS team?

The head coach is intertwined with Capital is are some of the assistant coaches. There's a conflict of interest at a minimum. If they put their players on Capital teams, the better SSSAS becomes.

Girls lacrosse is such a weirdly incestuous world, small enough that one continues to trip over the same coaches. It makes the typical travel sports politics that much worse. We are just getting started in this world and already seeing the same faces. Makes me extra cautious not to burn bridges and be respectful to all parents and coaches.

Sounds like you are employing basic best practices in human relations. Probably should do that anyway, regardless if it has lacrosse benefits.

LOL, fair. I would not otherwise be a witch, but I feel like I need to walk on eggshells for fear of pissing off the wrong parent.

It is a small world - especially in this area. Just don’t be the parent yelling from the sideline at the refs, coaches, your kid, other kids, other parents and you’ll be better than half of the parents out there 😉

Why do coaches and refs get a pass? The players getting ghosted by coaches and rudeness of lack of responses. The inability to identify talent correctly, favoritism, list goes on. What about refs who put players in harms way and doesn't know the game? Time and time again, all that is said is about poor parent behavior, but no one ever addresses the poor behavior of coaches, especially high level program ones.

Sounds like you should become a coach or ref so we can all benefit from your expertise. The game will be better for it.

There it is, the same old tired response. Thanks Captain Ref!

You be you! Keep yelling from the sidelines and complaining on message boards.

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Anonymous wrote:Face it, the current model for the top clubs in DC - Capital, Pride and Stars is for profit. That means they try to maximize their dollars for the owners anyway they can. The days of a more altruistic club scene in DC where maybe it was to prepare girls, play or just cover costs and pay coaches are over.

Whatever the model, it’s working for Capital. The market ultimately decides success v failure. Recruiting is how every HS club’s strength is determined and Capital has proven it has that formula down.

No one said that Capital is not successful but way to move the goal post.

Oh right!!! Forgot that you get to decide what’s said here .. ttttttthat’s on me.

You just lost the argument about clinics/camps soundly and tried to make it into something else. You are free to make all the stupid comments you’d like. It is entertaining.

And you lost the argument that every other MD camp offers camps and clinics to scout talent. Divert the discussion any way you want — non profit v profit, whatever — every club holds camps to generate revenue and identify potential players. And every player who wants exposure to said clubs will pay to do it.

You are like a dog with a bone. Tenacious just not very bright.

Then why does a Google search for “Hero’s Pre Tryout Clinic 2024” reveal a page that once was active on Hero’s website? Tagline still reads: “HERO'S 2024. PRE-TRYOUT CLINIC. WE WELCOME ALL CURRENT AND PROSPECTIVE 2024 GIRLS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING.” Search it yourself - let us know if you need some help?

[Anonymous]

So Hero’s is shaking their girls down too??? Who cares?!?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So Hero’s is shaking their girls down too??? Who cares?!?!

You’ve got to be kidding .. After pages and pages of Hero’s parents hating at Capital for this exact thing, and denying that they do anything of the sort, now it’s “who cares”. Pathetic

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Anonymous wrote:Face it, the current model for the top clubs in DC - Capital, Pride and Stars is for profit. That means they try to maximize their dollars for the owners anyway they can. The days of a more altruistic club scene in DC where maybe it was to prepare girls, play or just cover costs and pay coaches are over.

Whatever the model, it’s working for Capital. The market ultimately decides success v failure. Recruiting is how every HS club’s strength is determined and Capital has proven it has that formula down.

No one said that Capital is not successful but way to move the goal post.

Oh right!!! Forgot that you get to decide what’s said here .. ttttttthat’s on me.

You just lost the argument about clinics/camps soundly and tried to make it into something else. You are free to make all the stupid comments you’d like. It is entertaining.

And you lost the argument that every other MD camp offers camps and clinics to scout talent. Divert the discussion any way you want — non profit v profit, whatever — every club holds camps to generate revenue and identify potential players. And every player who wants exposure to said clubs will pay to do it.

You are like a dog with a bone. Tenacious just not very bright.

Then why does a Google search for “Hero’s Pre Tryout Clinic 2024” reveal a page that once was active on Hero’s website? Tagline still reads: “HERO'S 2024. PRE-TRYOUT CLINIC. WE WELCOME ALL CURRENT AND PROSPECTIVE 2024 GIRLS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING.” Search it yourself - let us know if you need some help?

That was a one night $20 clinic from several years ago for the 2024 team. You are seriously reaching.

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Anonymous wrote:Face it, the current model for the top clubs in DC - Capital, Pride and Stars is for profit. That means they try to maximize their dollars for the owners anyway they can. The days of a more altruistic club scene in DC where maybe it was to prepare girls, play or just cover costs and pay coaches are over.

Whatever the model, it’s working for Capital. The market ultimately decides success v failure. Recruiting is how every HS club’s strength is determined and Capital has proven it has that formula down.

No one said that Capital is not successful but way to move the goal post.

Oh right!!! Forgot that you get to decide what’s said here .. ttttttthat’s on me.

You just lost the argument about clinics/camps soundly and tried to make it into something else. You are free to make all the stupid comments you’d like. It is entertaining.

And you lost the argument that every other MD camp offers camps and clinics to scout talent. Divert the discussion any way you want — non profit v profit, whatever — every club holds camps to generate revenue and identify potential players. And every player who wants exposure to said clubs will pay to do it.

You are like a dog with a bone. Tenacious just not very bright.

Then why does a Google search for “Hero’s Pre Tryout Clinic 2024” reveal a page that once was active on Hero’s website? Tagline still reads: “HERO'S 2024. PRE-TRYOUT CLINIC. WE WELCOME ALL CURRENT AND PROSPECTIVE 2024 GIRLS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING.” Search it yourself - let us know if you need some help?

That was a one night $20 clinic from several years ago for the 2024 team. You are seriously reaching.

Embarrassing

[Anonymous]

And what about the Hero’s “Tune Up Clinics”?

https://teamsportsinfo.com/heroslax-campsandclinics-2024