VA math changes - ways to speak out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What VDOE wants to do is make college admissions harder for gifted kids and high achievers by leveling the playing field. That’s why they don’t want you to take advanced classés earlier on to give you an edge when applying for college.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What VDOE wants to do is make college admissions harder for gifted kids and high achievers by leveling the playing field. That’s why they don’t want you to take advanced classés earlier on to give you an edge when applying for college.

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Socialist thinking. Why not get to the root of the problem rather than creating more divide and creating more racist programs. Provide more educational resources to blacks and Hispanics or anyone underprivileged to get them on track from the earlier years rather than holding everyone back? We will have more equity issues in the future. Those who can afford will be in private school and those can’t in public schools. Isn’t that a concern? When does an elementary school or middle school teacher has time to teach 3 different types of kids, kids below, kids at grade level and kids at advanced level?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What VDOE wants to do is make college admissions harder for gifted kids and high achievers by leveling the playing field. That’s why they don’t want you to take advanced classés earlier on to give you an edge when applying for college.

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Uh. I think the goal is leveling the playing field so more kids can succeed. It’s not about “making college admissions harder”. It’s not a zero-sum game.

[Anonymous]

Opportunity hoarding at its finest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What VDOE wants to do is make college admissions harder for gifted kids and high achievers by leveling the playing field. That’s why they don’t want you to take advanced classés earlier on to give you an edge when applying for college.

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Uh. I think the goal is leveling the playing field so more kids can succeed. It’s not about “making college admissions harder”. It’s not a zero-sum game.

Why can’t you bring the bottom up without limiting options for the top? I think that’s the root of the problem. No one (or most normal people) don’t mind bringing the bottom up. It’s when you limit the options at the top that people get upset.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What VDOE wants to do is make college admissions harder for gifted kids and high achievers by leveling the playing field. That’s why they don’t want you to take advanced classés earlier on to give you an edge when applying for college.

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Uh. I think the goal is leveling the playing field so more kids can succeed. It’s not about “making college admissions harder”. It’s not a zero-sum game.

It’s public school and the field is already leveled at kindergarten. It’s what you make out of it. Underprivileged kids needs role models and mentors to get them where they need to go. Put resources there so they see the track and work towards it. My kids are not privileged but I show them there is a path for success and they need to work hard to get there. I have no money for tutors or expensive class but they watch lots of YouTube math videos and khan academy to get there. Sometimes we watch the same videos like 5 times to understand the concept but we don’t give up because we see and know there is a track for success. And not everyone needs to and wants to go to Harvard. Not everyone wants to and needs to take AP classes. Honors classes are free for all, sign your kids up if you feel they can do it. Have more options, don’t add barriers.

[Anonymous]

In NOVA many parents of smart kids have kept their kids in “good” public schools rather than opting for private, in large part because the accelerated math opportunities were better than what most private schools offer. It’s mind boggling that anyone could see this as a good move for public schools. Hello, mediocrity.

The ground is positively fertile for a new private school (or three) in the area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What VDOE wants to do is make college admissions harder for gifted kids and high achievers by leveling the playing field. That’s why they don’t want you to take advanced classés earlier on to give you an edge when applying for college.

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Uh. I think the goal is leveling the playing field so more kids can succeed. It’s not about “making college admissions harder”. It’s not a zero-sum game.

Why can’t you bring the bottom up without limiting options for the top? I think that’s the root of the problem. No one (or most normal people) don’t mind bringing the bottom up. It’s when you limit the options at the top that people get upset.

You are speculating that there will be “limited options”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What VDOE wants to do is make college admissions harder for gifted kids and high achievers by leveling the playing field. That’s why they don’t want you to take advanced classés earlier on to give you an edge when applying for college.

+1

Uh. I think the goal is leveling the playing field so more kids can succeed. It’s not about “making college admissions harder”. It’s not a zero-sum game.

Why can’t you bring the bottom up without limiting options for the top? I think that’s the root of the problem. No one (or most normal people) don’t mind bringing the bottom up. It’s when you limit the options at the top that people get upset.

Because it’s about leveling the playing field at any expense. Sorry, kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What VDOE wants to do is make college admissions harder for gifted kids and high achievers by leveling the playing field. That’s why they don’t want you to take advanced classés earlier on to give you an edge when applying for college.

+1

Uh. I think the goal is leveling the playing field so more kids can succeed. It’s not about “making college admissions harder”. It’s not a zero-sum game.

It’s public school and the field is already leveled at kindergarten. It’s what you make out of it. Underprivileged kids needs role models and mentors to get them where they need to go. Put resources there so they see the track and work towards it. My kids are not privileged but I show them there is a path for success and they need to work hard to get there. I have no money for tutors or expensive class but they watch lots of YouTube math videos and khan academy to get there. Sometimes we watch the same videos like 5 times to understand the concept but we don’t give up because we see and know there is a track for success. And not everyone needs to and wants to go to Harvard. Not everyone wants to and needs to take AP classes. Honors classes are free for all, sign your kids up if you feel they can do it. Have more options, don’t add barriers.

You don’t honestly think that, do you? GMAFB.

[Anonymous]

You are speculating about “limited options” and

Here is what VDOE says:
● The traditional high school pathway culminating in the study of Calculus or other advanced courses is not being eliminated. Additional course pathways will include engaging semester courses in statistics, data science, modeling, design, and logic, among others.
● Local school divisions will still have plenty of flexibility to create courses aligned to the standards to meet the needs of all students; and provide opportunities for all students to advance through the curriculum based on their learning needs. School divisions will also be able to offer advanced sections and acceleration through the courses.
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/mathematics/vmpi/VMPI%20for%20vdoe%20website.docx

What VDOE wants to do is make college admissions harder for gifted kids and high achievers by leveling the playing field.

Sounds like you want to keep other kids down to make college admissions EASIER for your own kids. Opportunity hoarding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t you bring the bottom up without limiting options for the top? I think that’s the root of the problem. No one (or most normal people) don’t mind bringing the bottom up. It’s when you limit the options at the top that people get upset.

You are speculating that there will be “limited options”.

It's not speculation. One track of heterogenous classes up through 10th grade. That's the very definition of limited options, and guaranteed it will be focused on bringing up the bottom.

[Anonymous]

^ and speculating that “accelerated math opportunities” will be eliminated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t you bring the bottom up without limiting options for the top? I think that’s the root of the problem. No one (or most normal people) don’t mind bringing the bottom up. It’s when you limit the options at the top that people get upset.

You are speculating that there will be “limited options”.

It's not speculation. One track of heterogenous classes up through 10th grade. That's the very definition of limited options, and guaranteed it will be focused on bringing up the bottom.

School divisions will also be able to offer advanced sections and acceleration through the courses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t you bring the bottom up without limiting options for the top? I think that’s the root of the problem. No one (or most normal people) don’t mind bringing the bottom up. It’s when you limit the options at the top that people get upset.

You are speculating that there will be “limited options”.

It's not speculation. One track of heterogenous classes up through 10th grade. That's the very definition of limited options, and guaranteed it will be focused on bringing up the bottom.

How could it not? How can they move on to new concepts without the bulk of the class understanding the old concepts?