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We are sharing anecdata here, aren't we?
I know at least two pros of red-shirting which would have benefited my green-shirted child. - ability to intern at age 16 in federally funded organizations - ability to drive a car earlier We worked around these minor cons. Decided to green-shirt because of some major pros. |
My redshirted kid is best friends with a non-red-shirted kid in his class who is exactly a week younger than him. One week. Do you not realize that kids are born throughout the year? |
What? Less than half of kids turn 18 in high school. High school graduations are usually in June, which is less than halfway through the year. July 2nd is the middle day of a non-leap-year and the first day on the later half of a leap year, so even in an extreme case that a graduation took place on June 30th(which would be exceptionally late) during a leap year, that would mean roughly 49.73 percent of kids would be 18 upon graduation. And this is only assuming that birth dates are uniformly distributed. The truth is that September is the most common month to be born. https://www.rd.com/article/september-popular-birth-month/#:~:text=According%20to%20real%20birth%20data,followed%20closely%20by%20September%2019th. When you take this into consideration and the fact high school graduations are far likely to be towards the beginning of June(maybe even May) than the end, it's safe to say that your statement is complete bogus. |
Do you frequently go around insulting 5yo children? |
If you want to troll successfully, you need to be a little more discrete about it. Any student who flunked badly enough to turn 18 in 11th grade would've been sent to a special school. Nice try though. |
Did you just ignore all the kids born September-December????
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Less than half of HS seniors is still a lot of kids. Non-redshirted 18yo HS students are common. |
| My son is nonverbal but has started saying a few words. I’m hoping that with another year of intensive speech therapy and OT he will be on track to start kindergarten. If he starts K after having just turned 6 in June, so be it. |
PP is either a troll or ignorant. My October child and his best friend born in November, neither of whom are redshirted, will both turn 18 this fall, in their senior year. |
It's because of those kids that graduating high school at 18 is less common than graduating as 17. I'm not sure how you can think I'm "ignoring" these kids when I explicitly posted a link saying that September is the most common month to be born. |
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I'm not redshirting my August bday kid because aside from a couple behavioral things, she's in line with the rest of her K class. I think she's ready and will actually benefit from being in a classroom with mostly older kids, as she does not have siblings and Covid has been hard from a social perspective.
I don't know how I'd feel if she was developmentally delayed. I think I would not worry much about academic stuff because there's always a spectrum in a classroom and being around more academically advanced kids is often a plus in terms of learning. But if the delays were in motor skills or speech, I might hold back because those are things that can inhibit a kid a lot with learning. I already feel a little anxiety because my kid is still a bit more dependent on adults for things like the bathroom (she trained super late) and getting dressed. I don't want her to get teased. But I also think peer pressure will encourage independence on these things and help expedite them. I would expect that by mid-elementary, I probably won't even notice the differences I currently do between my child and those 6-9 months older. It kind of feels like K and maybe 1st are the last years where there's significant differentiation across the grade level, but I could be wrong. Would love to hear from teachers about their experiences. |
September -June = 10 months. That is MOST of a year. By January you’ve already got 4 months of kids who have turned 18. By June 1 you’ve got 9 months of kids who have turned 18. By graduation the only 17 year olds left are the summer birthday kids. Now do you understand? |
You seem to be referring to school systems with a cut-off date of Jan 1. Those are rare. DCUM area cut off is September. Get with the program. |
| Walking past what is I'm sure a 32-page-shyteshow of math-challenged hysteria to tell you the real reason that I redshirted my kid is because he was so painfully shy that his preschool teacher only got him to participate in circle time once. I consulted with a Kindergarten education expert who gave me a list of what I should see in a K classroom and found that the classroom I was observing was geared to what used to be 1st or 2nd grade. The elementary school encouraged me to trust my gut on what was best for my child. All signs pointed to another year of preschool, so that is what I did. |
Most school systems use a September cut off date. I am 38 and can name exactly three friends who turned 18 after graduating from high school (and one of these was early June and I can't recall if we had actually graduated by his birthday or thereafter); none of my friends were red-shirted. Everyone else was 18. See this survey data: https://nces.ed.gov/programs/statereform/tab5_3.asp |