Redshirting consequences at Lafayette

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Anonymous wrote:Bonkers thread. I’ve never rooted against people so hard as I do these parents. (And I generally support wiggle room.) they’re really saying the quiet part out loud. I’m sure they’ll get their way in the end, unfortunately.

These parents think they can always get what they want, always have the system bend to their needs, etc. These are those parents that want DCPS to have a strict absence policy for kids in other wards but want their kids to be excused for their trips to Paris because it’s educational.

A trip to Paris is educational. The fastest way to a defunded department of education is to not show an understanding of this. Taking away someone’s trip to Paris gets you nothing, and then gets what you have taken away.

Missing school for a soccer tournament is also educational. So is attending the Westinghouse competition. Call CPS for any of this, call CPS for redshirting, while leaving other kids abused and you will get an immediate loss in support for institutions you want to be strong.

Loosen absentee policies on other wards if you want, but take the steps to make public schools the best they can be if you’re going to send your children there.

By the way anti-redshirters, you know this is where things are headed next right? CPS investigates your trip to Paris.

And what will CPS do exactly? I mean in a world of DEI it would be “nothing” which is the same as what they do when kids in other wards miss school and can’t even say where they were….

They are desperate to justify holding back their kids to give them a perceived edge without putting any effort into their kid like the rest of us do. So, they are bringing up all kind of nonsense. If anything if you don’t enroll your child in k on time or have them in an academic setting or homeschool, then cps might get involved due to educational neglect.

Listen, what you did for your family is between you and your family alone. That doesn’t give you license to tell others how to parent. You’ve not a heroine mom, you”re not a model to follow.

Most of all, Karen, stop meddling in other families business. They will raise their kids however they see fit.

Your choices impact our kids and their school experiences. They expect our five year olds to act like 6-7 year olds in K vs. the age appropiate 5 year old. And, then you act all inflamed when our younger kids surpass yours as you refused to work with them at all. I feel bad for kids like yours. You have all the time in the world to fight with others online but you cannot take 30 minutes a day to work with them.

It’s certain your kid didn’t “surpass” mine whatever you think that means. I’m also guessing you’re far from the perfect parent you imagine yourself to be. If this thread is any indication, your social skills are non existant and I’m hoping you didn’t pass on to your kid and didn’t mess them up irredeemably.

My child took algebra in 6th, BC in 10th... is your child don't that? And, not a brag, just a smart kid who enjoys math.

Why do you feel the need to hold your smart, non-special needs child back a year? Why do you tantrum and have a fit, and bully vs. answering basic questions? If there were a good reason, the school would probably work with you. If your social skills are super high, why aren't your child's? Sounds like its time to get off social media and work wtih them as they are going to miss K.

I see, you’re the type that never misses an opportunity to whine about redshirted kids and brag about your child’s academics. Both qualities are guaranteed to endear you to other parents and win you many lifelong friends. They do go hand in hand, perhaps some redshirted kid scarred you for life by doing better on a test than your progeny, and you clinged onto that bitterness for years.

Sorry to deflate you pride, but my kid did both Algebra and Calculus in earlier grades. I’d add that it’s far better to focus on your kids accomplishments alone, instead of comparing with others or being too invested in what others are doing. There’s always somebody that’s better in some aspect.

To be clear I didn’t hold my kid back, and also it’s none of your business why parents want to to do that. Nobody owes you any explanation on the topic.

I suspect you held back your kids, which is why you are traumatized about it. So, what grade did your kids take Algebra and Calc BC? If you have HS or older kids, you understand it's not healthy to have an age range of 13-20 year 20-year-olds in HS in the same classes. If your 9th-10th grader took calc, they'd be in with mostly juniors and seniors, and if those kids were held back, much older. You think its ok for a 13-year-old girl to be dating a 17-year-old boy? Or, their conversations, which are much older/age-appropriate for them, but not a 13-year-old? Holding back impacts all kids as its not developmentally appropriate for the child held back nor the younger kids whom the teachers don't have realistic expectations. Those held-back kids should be held to a much higher standard.

And, the point is that smart kids should be academically challenged, and holding back doesn't challenge them. Kids struggling should go on time for the age appropiate peers and be provided with extra supports.

For me, your irrational anxieties about sexual predators and unresolved sexual hangups are not good enough to bar a child from starting school at an age when he may be more successful. If that’s your issue, then long and recurring sessions of therapy is the way to calm your nerves, instead of taking it out on another child. You’ve got a lot of self work ahead of you.

Regarding your opinions on when kids should go to school, when they should be challenged, what’s developmentally appropriate etc, since when are you an educational expert? Actually don’t bother answering, nobody cares what you think on the topic.

How do you know if these kids will be successful or not? They were never given the chance. You clearly have no clue what's going on in schools if you don't realize all the issues, including rapes and other things. Educational experts have decided kids go to K at age 5. There is a cut off. So, you know more than they do?

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Anonymous wrote:Bonkers thread. I’ve never rooted against people so hard as I do these parents. (And I generally support wiggle room.) they’re really saying the quiet part out loud. I’m sure they’ll get their way in the end, unfortunately.

These parents think they can always get what they want, always have the system bend to their needs, etc. These are those parents that want DCPS to have a strict absence policy for kids in other wards but want their kids to be excused for their trips to Paris because it’s educational.

A trip to Paris is educational. The fastest way to a defunded department of education is to not show an understanding of this. Taking away someone’s trip to Paris gets you nothing, and then gets what you have taken away.

Missing school for a soccer tournament is also educational. So is attending the Westinghouse competition. Call CPS for any of this, call CPS for redshirting, while leaving other kids abused and you will get an immediate loss in support for institutions you want to be strong.

Loosen absentee policies on other wards if you want, but take the steps to make public schools the best they can be if you’re going to send your children there.

By the way anti-redshirters, you know this is where things are headed next right? CPS investigates your trip to Paris.

And what will CPS do exactly? I mean in a world of DEI it would be “nothing” which is the same as what they do when kids in other wards miss school and can’t even say where they were….

They are desperate to justify holding back their kids to give them a perceived edge without putting any effort into their kid like the rest of us do. So, they are bringing up all kind of nonsense. If anything if you don’t enroll your child in k on time or have them in an academic setting or homeschool, then cps might get involved due to educational neglect.

Listen, what you did for your family is between you and your family alone. That doesn’t give you license to tell others how to parent. You’ve not a heroine mom, you”re not a model to follow.

Most of all, Karen, stop meddling in other families business. They will raise their kids however they see fit.

Your choices impact our kids and their school experiences. They expect our five year olds to act like 6-7 year olds in K vs. the age appropiate 5 year old. And, then you act all inflamed when our younger kids surpass yours as you refused to work with them at all. I feel bad for kids like yours. You have all the time in the world to fight with others online but you cannot take 30 minutes a day to work with them.

It’s certain your kid didn’t “surpass” mine whatever you think that means. I’m also guessing you’re far from the perfect parent you imagine yourself to be. If this thread is any indication, your social skills are non existant and I’m hoping you didn’t pass on to your kid and didn’t mess them up irredeemably.

My child took algebra in 6th, BC in 10th... is your child don't that? And, not a brag, just a smart kid who enjoys math.

Why do you feel the need to hold your smart, non-special needs child back a year? Why do you tantrum and have a fit, and bully vs. answering basic questions? If there were a good reason, the school would probably work with you. If your social skills are super high, why aren't your child's? Sounds like its time to get off social media and work wtih them as they are going to miss K.

I see, you’re the type that never misses an opportunity to whine about redshirted kids and brag about your child’s academics. Both qualities are guaranteed to endear you to other parents and win you many lifelong friends. They do go hand in hand, perhaps some redshirted kid scarred you for life by doing better on a test than your progeny, and you clinged onto that bitterness for years.

Sorry to deflate you pride, but my kid did both Algebra and Calculus in earlier grades. I’d add that it’s far better to focus on your kids accomplishments alone, instead of comparing with others or being too invested in what others are doing. There’s always somebody that’s better in some aspect.

To be clear I didn’t hold my kid back, and also it’s none of your business why parents want to to do that. Nobody owes you any explanation on the topic.

DP. sure, it’s no individual parent’s business to decide. That’s why we have a system, with rules, that sets the rules for everyone.

In principle I want a system that is flexible so that it maximizes the benefits for as many students as possible. If parents want a flexible kindergarten start age, they should get it, regardless of what an old hag is crowing about on the sidelines because she thinks it’s a zero sum game and the success of one kid is taking away from hers.

Enough with the rules excuses. The rules are made by us, the community. New rules are made all the time, and frankly I care more about a child succeeding than these arbitrary rules put in place by some soulless administrator.

No, rules are made by the school system to get each kid an equal playing field. If you want to make up your own rules, go private, homeschool or start your own school.

If kids aren't ready for K, theys should be forced to go to a special preschool to prepare them and be in therapies.

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Anonymous wrote:Bonkers thread. I’ve never rooted against people so hard as I do these parents. (And I generally support wiggle room.) they’re really saying the quiet part out loud. I’m sure they’ll get their way in the end, unfortunately.

These parents think they can always get what they want, always have the system bend to their needs, etc. These are those parents that want DCPS to have a strict absence policy for kids in other wards but want their kids to be excused for their trips to Paris because it’s educational.

A trip to Paris is educational. The fastest way to a defunded department of education is to not show an understanding of this. Taking away someone’s trip to Paris gets you nothing, and then gets what you have taken away.

Missing school for a soccer tournament is also educational. So is attending the Westinghouse competition. Call CPS for any of this, call CPS for redshirting, while leaving other kids abused and you will get an immediate loss in support for institutions you want to be strong.

Loosen absentee policies on other wards if you want, but take the steps to make public schools the best they can be if you’re going to send your children there.

By the way anti-redshirters, you know this is where things are headed next right? CPS investigates your trip to Paris.

And what will CPS do exactly? I mean in a world of DEI it would be “nothing” which is the same as what they do when kids in other wards miss school and can’t even say where they were….

They are desperate to justify holding back their kids to give them a perceived edge without putting any effort into their kid like the rest of us do. So, they are bringing up all kind of nonsense. If anything if you don’t enroll your child in k on time or have them in an academic setting or homeschool, then cps might get involved due to educational neglect.

So getting back to the main topic … did the moms in question have any actual reason to hold their kids back other than they had late July birthdays or whatever?

Funny thing, that poster will not comment that. So, it sounds like no.

No. If the kids had developmental delays or other SNs, these parents would channel their energies into getting IEPs that would enable them to start K late. I know people who have done this in DC successfully, and their kids had real, diagnosed issues and recommendations from experts that a late start would be beneficial in helping these kids have more normal school experiences. DCPS is pretty responsive to these arguments.

These families just assumed they could delay start because they knew it had been allowed previously at Lafayette (despite not being allowed in most of the city), didn't ever think to question whether it would continue under new leadership, and are now trying to change the rules for the whole city because of their mismanagement of their kids' education.

I guarantee if these kids had documented delays, DCPS would already have sought an accommodation just to shut these parents up. They don't.

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Anonymous wrote:Bonkers thread. I’ve never rooted against people so hard as I do these parents. (And I generally support wiggle room.) they’re really saying the quiet part out loud. I’m sure they’ll get their way in the end, unfortunately.

These parents think they can always get what they want, always have the system bend to their needs, etc. These are those parents that want DCPS to have a strict absence policy for kids in other wards but want their kids to be excused for their trips to Paris because it’s educational.

A trip to Paris is educational. The fastest way to a defunded department of education is to not show an understanding of this. Taking away someone’s trip to Paris gets you nothing, and then gets what you have taken away.

Missing school for a soccer tournament is also educational. So is attending the Westinghouse competition. Call CPS for any of this, call CPS for redshirting, while leaving other kids abused and you will get an immediate loss in support for institutions you want to be strong.

Loosen absentee policies on other wards if you want, but take the steps to make public schools the best they can be if you’re going to send your children there.

By the way anti-redshirters, you know this is where things are headed next right? CPS investigates your trip to Paris.

And what will CPS do exactly? I mean in a world of DEI it would be “nothing” which is the same as what they do when kids in other wards miss school and can’t even say where they were….

They are desperate to justify holding back their kids to give them a perceived edge without putting any effort into their kid like the rest of us do. So, they are bringing up all kind of nonsense. If anything if you don’t enroll your child in k on time or have them in an academic setting or homeschool, then cps might get involved due to educational neglect.

So getting back to the main topic … did the moms in question have any actual reason to hold their kids back other than they had late July birthdays or whatever?

Funny thing, that poster will not comment that. So, it sounds like no.

No. If the kids had developmental delays or other SNs, these parents would channel their energies into getting IEPs that would enable them to start K late. I know people who have done this in DC successfully, and their kids had real, diagnosed issues and recommendations from experts that a late start would be beneficial in helping these kids have more normal school experiences. DCPS is pretty responsive to these arguments.

These families just assumed they could delay start because they knew it had been allowed previously at Lafayette (despite not being allowed in most of the city), didn't ever think to question whether it would continue under new leadership, and are now trying to change the rules for the whole city because of their mismanagement of their kids' education.

I guarantee if these kids had documented delays, DCPS would already have sought an accommodation just to shut these parents up. They don't.

generally it’s better to get the kids right into K than to redshirt with an IEP (with some exceptions) because the services are better in K than in preschool. DCPS also has such a great reading program in most schools that you want to get the kids in there. I do know one fellow SN mom that redshirted and did an extra year of PK3 (in a charter) and it made sense because the child was like 2 weeks from the cutoff and would elope and was very emotionally immature. We did not redshirt my SN kiddo because despite issues he was on target academically and needed the structure.

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Anonymous wrote:Bonkers thread. I’ve never rooted against people so hard as I do these parents. (And I generally support wiggle room.) they’re really saying the quiet part out loud. I’m sure they’ll get their way in the end, unfortunately.

These parents think they can always get what they want, always have the system bend to their needs, etc. These are those parents that want DCPS to have a strict absence policy for kids in other wards but want their kids to be excused for their trips to Paris because it’s educational.

A trip to Paris is educational. The fastest way to a defunded department of education is to not show an understanding of this. Taking away someone’s trip to Paris gets you nothing, and then gets what you have taken away.

Missing school for a soccer tournament is also educational. So is attending the Westinghouse competition. Call CPS for any of this, call CPS for redshirting, while leaving other kids abused and you will get an immediate loss in support for institutions you want to be strong.

Loosen absentee policies on other wards if you want, but take the steps to make public schools the best they can be if you’re going to send your children there.

By the way anti-redshirters, you know this is where things are headed next right? CPS investigates your trip to Paris.

And what will CPS do exactly? I mean in a world of DEI it would be “nothing” which is the same as what they do when kids in other wards miss school and can’t even say where they were….

They are desperate to justify holding back their kids to give them a perceived edge without putting any effort into their kid like the rest of us do. So, they are bringing up all kind of nonsense. If anything if you don’t enroll your child in k on time or have them in an academic setting or homeschool, then cps might get involved due to educational neglect.

So getting back to the main topic … did the moms in question have any actual reason to hold their kids back other than they had late July birthdays or whatever?

Funny thing, that poster will not comment that. So, it sounds like no.

No. If the kids had developmental delays or other SNs, these parents would channel their energies into getting IEPs that would enable them to start K late. I know people who have done this in DC successfully, and their kids had real, diagnosed issues and recommendations from experts that a late start would be beneficial in helping these kids have more normal school experiences. DCPS is pretty responsive to these arguments.

These families just assumed they could delay start because they knew it had been allowed previously at Lafayette (despite not being allowed in most of the city), didn't ever think to question whether it would continue under new leadership, and are now trying to change the rules for the whole city because of their mismanagement of their kids' education.

I guarantee if these kids had documented delays, DCPS would already have sought an accommodation just to shut these parents up. They don't.

DCPS has head start and other programs to help those kids so if they are not going into K, they'd go into specialized preschools to help with those needs.

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Anonymous wrote:Bonkers thread. I’ve never rooted against people so hard as I do these parents. (And I generally support wiggle room.) they’re really saying the quiet part out loud. I’m sure they’ll get their way in the end, unfortunately.

These parents think they can always get what they want, always have the system bend to their needs, etc. These are those parents that want DCPS to have a strict absence policy for kids in other wards but want their kids to be excused for their trips to Paris because it’s educational.

A trip to Paris is educational. The fastest way to a defunded department of education is to not show an understanding of this. Taking away someone’s trip to Paris gets you nothing, and then gets what you have taken away.

Missing school for a soccer tournament is also educational. So is attending the Westinghouse competition. Call CPS for any of this, call CPS for redshirting, while leaving other kids abused and you will get an immediate loss in support for institutions you want to be strong.

Loosen absentee policies on other wards if you want, but take the steps to make public schools the best they can be if you’re going to send your children there.

By the way anti-redshirters, you know this is where things are headed next right? CPS investigates your trip to Paris.

And what will CPS do exactly? I mean in a world of DEI it would be “nothing” which is the same as what they do when kids in other wards miss school and can’t even say where they were….

They are desperate to justify holding back their kids to give them a perceived edge without putting any effort into their kid like the rest of us do. So, they are bringing up all kind of nonsense. If anything if you don’t enroll your child in k on time or have them in an academic setting or homeschool, then cps might get involved due to educational neglect.

So getting back to the main topic … did the moms in question have any actual reason to hold their kids back other than they had late July birthdays or whatever?

Funny thing, that poster will not comment that. So, it sounds like no.

No. If the kids had developmental delays or other SNs, these parents would channel their energies into getting IEPs that would enable them to start K late. I know people who have done this in DC successfully, and their kids had real, diagnosed issues and recommendations from experts that a late start would be beneficial in helping these kids have more normal school experiences. DCPS is pretty responsive to these arguments.

These families just assumed they could delay start because they knew it had been allowed previously at Lafayette (despite not being allowed in most of the city), didn't ever think to question whether it would continue under new leadership, and are now trying to change the rules for the whole city because of their mismanagement of their kids' education.

I guarantee if these kids had documented delays, DCPS would already have sought an accommodation just to shut these parents up. They don't.

generally it’s better to get the kids right into K than to redshirt with an IEP (with some exceptions) because the services are better in K than in preschool. DCPS also has such a great reading program in most schools that you want to get the kids in there. I do know one fellow SN mom that redshirted and did an extra year of PK3 (in a charter) and it made sense because the child was like 2 weeks from the cutoff and would elope and was very emotionally immature. We did not redshirt my SN kiddo because despite issues he was on target academically and needed the structure.

This 100%. You go for the IEP and services.

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Anonymous wrote:Bonkers thread. I’ve never rooted against people so hard as I do these parents. (And I generally support wiggle room.) they’re really saying the quiet part out loud. I’m sure they’ll get their way in the end, unfortunately.

These parents think they can always get what they want, always have the system bend to their needs, etc. These are those parents that want DCPS to have a strict absence policy for kids in other wards but want their kids to be excused for their trips to Paris because it’s educational.

A trip to Paris is educational. The fastest way to a defunded department of education is to not show an understanding of this. Taking away someone’s trip to Paris gets you nothing, and then gets what you have taken away.

Missing school for a soccer tournament is also educational. So is attending the Westinghouse competition. Call CPS for any of this, call CPS for redshirting, while leaving other kids abused and you will get an immediate loss in support for institutions you want to be strong.

Loosen absentee policies on other wards if you want, but take the steps to make public schools the best they can be if you’re going to send your children there.

By the way anti-redshirters, you know this is where things are headed next right? CPS investigates your trip to Paris.

And what will CPS do exactly? I mean in a world of DEI it would be “nothing” which is the same as what they do when kids in other wards miss school and can’t even say where they were….

They are desperate to justify holding back their kids to give them a perceived edge without putting any effort into their kid like the rest of us do. So, they are bringing up all kind of nonsense. If anything if you don’t enroll your child in k on time or have them in an academic setting or homeschool, then cps might get involved due to educational neglect.

So getting back to the main topic … did the moms in question have any actual reason to hold their kids back other than they had late July birthdays or whatever?

Funny thing, that poster will not comment that. So, it sounds like no.

No. If the kids had developmental delays or other SNs, these parents would channel their energies into getting IEPs that would enable them to start K late. I know people who have done this in DC successfully, and their kids had real, diagnosed issues and recommendations from experts that a late start would be beneficial in helping these kids have more normal school experiences. DCPS is pretty responsive to these arguments.

These families just assumed they could delay start because they knew it had been allowed previously at Lafayette (despite not being allowed in most of the city), didn't ever think to question whether it would continue under new leadership, and are now trying to change the rules for the whole city because of their mismanagement of their kids' education.

I guarantee if these kids had documented delays, DCPS would already have sought an accommodation just to shut these parents up. They don't.

DCPS has head start and other programs to help those kids so if they are not going into K, they'd go into specialized preschools to help with those needs.

Yup.

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PP who said that if the kids had demonstrated delays, DCPS would have already reached an agreement to let them delay K.

I agree the recommended approach in most cases is to start on time and utilize IEPs and other accommodations to help the kids, and that a lot of professionals will recommend starting on time specifically to gain access to certain services.

But I also know families who have *chosen* to delay K in DCPS and who have been able to do so because they had diagnosed delays. It may not be recommended, but DCPS will allow it where there is a developmental reason, especially if therapists recommend it. It's the one situation in which redshirting is generally permitted in DCPS because schools and the district would rather just allow it in an SN situation than go toe-to-toe with a family to force them to start on time.

Which is how we know these parents have no demonstrated delays with these kids. Because DCPS is digging in their heels and will not budge, and the parents are resorting to increasingly desperate moves like trying to get PTAs at other schools on board. If DCPS had any reason to just permit the delay in these specific cases, they would.

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Anonymous wrote:Bonkers thread. I’ve never rooted against people so hard as I do these parents. (And I generally support wiggle room.) they’re really saying the quiet part out loud. I’m sure they’ll get their way in the end, unfortunately.

These parents think they can always get what they want, always have the system bend to their needs, etc. These are those parents that want DCPS to have a strict absence policy for kids in other wards but want their kids to be excused for their trips to Paris because it’s educational.

A trip to Paris is educational. The fastest way to a defunded department of education is to not show an understanding of this. Taking away someone’s trip to Paris gets you nothing, and then gets what you have taken away.

Missing school for a soccer tournament is also educational. So is attending the Westinghouse competition. Call CPS for any of this, call CPS for redshirting, while leaving other kids abused and you will get an immediate loss in support for institutions you want to be strong.

Loosen absentee policies on other wards if you want, but take the steps to make public schools the best they can be if you’re going to send your children there.

By the way anti-redshirters, you know this is where things are headed next right? CPS investigates your trip to Paris.

And what will CPS do exactly? I mean in a world of DEI it would be “nothing” which is the same as what they do when kids in other wards miss school and can’t even say where they were….

They are desperate to justify holding back their kids to give them a perceived edge without putting any effort into their kid like the rest of us do. So, they are bringing up all kind of nonsense. If anything if you don’t enroll your child in k on time or have them in an academic setting or homeschool, then cps might get involved due to educational neglect.

Listen, what you did for your family is between you and your family alone. That doesn’t give you license to tell others how to parent. You’ve not a heroine mom, you”re not a model to follow.

Most of all, Karen, stop meddling in other families business. They will raise their kids however they see fit.

Your choices impact our kids and their school experiences. They expect our five year olds to act like 6-7 year olds in K vs. the age appropiate 5 year old. And, then you act all inflamed when our younger kids surpass yours as you refused to work with them at all. I feel bad for kids like yours. You have all the time in the world to fight with others online but you cannot take 30 minutes a day to work with them.

It’s certain your kid didn’t “surpass” mine whatever you think that means. I’m also guessing you’re far from the perfect parent you imagine yourself to be. If this thread is any indication, your social skills are non existant and I’m hoping you didn’t pass on to your kid and didn’t mess them up irredeemably.

My child took algebra in 6th, BC in 10th... is your child don't that? And, not a brag, just a smart kid who enjoys math.

Why do you feel the need to hold your smart, non-special needs child back a year? Why do you tantrum and have a fit, and bully vs. answering basic questions? If there were a good reason, the school would probably work with you. If your social skills are super high, why aren't your child's? Sounds like its time to get off social media and work wtih them as they are going to miss K.

I see, you’re the type that never misses an opportunity to whine about redshirted kids and brag about your child’s academics. Both qualities are guaranteed to endear you to other parents and win you many lifelong friends. They do go hand in hand, perhaps some redshirted kid scarred you for life by doing better on a test than your progeny, and you clinged onto that bitterness for years.

Sorry to deflate you pride, but my kid did both Algebra and Calculus in earlier grades. I’d add that it’s far better to focus on your kids accomplishments alone, instead of comparing with others or being too invested in what others are doing. There’s always somebody that’s better in some aspect.

To be clear I didn’t hold my kid back, and also it’s none of your business why parents want to to do that. Nobody owes you any explanation on the topic.

DP. sure, it’s no individual parent’s business to decide. That’s why we have a system, with rules, that sets the rules for everyone.

In principle I want a system that is flexible so that it maximizes the benefits for as many students as possible. If parents want a flexible kindergarten start age, they should get it, regardless of what an old hag is crowing about on the sidelines because she thinks it’s a zero sum game and the success of one kid is taking away from hers.

Enough with the rules excuses. The rules are made by us, the community. New rules are made all the time, and frankly I care more about a child succeeding than these arbitrary rules put in place by some soulless administrator.

You’re the kind of parent that makes every teacher and administrator’s job 10x harder. You and your kid are not special. Follow the rules.

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Flexible system = you get to do what you want. A school system has rules- age cutoffs for grade levels, grading policies, late submission policies for assignments, requirements to receive credit for a class, graduation requirements, paperwork requirements to enroll, etc. Are you that parent who harasses the principal to have a certain teacher, makes excuses for your child being late to school, submitting late work, etc.?

[Anonymous]

I can’t believe parents think kindergarten should start at 5. Really capable kindergartners start at 4. https://www.chalkbeat.org/newyork/2020/2/4/21178551/your-child-s-birth-month-matters-nyc-students-born-in-november-and-december-are-classified-with-lear/

We need to level the playing field and match our rules to the rest of the country. Parents bragging about their 5-year-olds are so jejune.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe parents think kindergarten should start at 5. Really capable kindergartners start at 4. https://www.chalkbeat.org/newyork/2020/2/4/21178551/your-child-s-birth-month-matters-nyc-students-born-in-november-and-december-are-classified-with-lear/

We need to level the playing field and match our rules to the rest of the country. Parents bragging about their 5-year-olds are so jejune.

If kids aren’t ready for kindergarten at 4, then parents just need to stop being lazy, work harder, and get them ready.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe parents think kindergarten should start at 5. Really capable kindergartners start at 4. https://www.chalkbeat.org/newyork/2020/2/4/21178551/your-child-s-birth-month-matters-nyc-students-born-in-november-and-december-are-classified-with-lear/

We need to level the playing field and match our rules to the rest of the country. Parents bragging about their 5-year-olds are so jejune.

If kids aren’t ready for kindergarten at 4, then parents just need to stop being lazy, work harder, and get them ready.

Seriously why. What’s the rush for? What are you chasing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe parents think kindergarten should start at 5. Really capable kindergartners start at 4. https://www.chalkbeat.org/newyork/2020/2/4/21178551/your-child-s-birth-month-matters-nyc-students-born-in-november-and-december-are-classified-with-lear/

We need to level the playing field and match our rules to the rest of the country. Parents bragging about their 5-year-olds are so jejune.

If kids aren’t ready for kindergarten at 4, then parents just need to stop being lazy, work harder, and get them ready.

Seriously why. What’s the rush for? What are you chasing?

The point is these dates are arbitrary, and every school district has different ones. In Palo Alto starting at 4 is illegal but 6 is ok.

DC should adopt the rule created by the best educator in the best school district.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe parents think kindergarten should start at 5. Really capable kindergartners start at 4. https://www.chalkbeat.org/newyork/2020/2/4/21178551/your-child-s-birth-month-matters-nyc-students-born-in-november-and-december-are-classified-with-lear/

We need to level the playing field and match our rules to the rest of the country. Parents bragging about their 5-year-olds are so jejune.

If kids aren’t ready for kindergarten at 4, then parents just need to stop being lazy, work harder, and get them ready.

Seriously why. What’s the rush for? What are you chasing?

But also, in New York, 1/3 of students are forced to start at 4. The rule doesn’t care if you as the parent think it’s a rush.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe parents think kindergarten should start at 5. Really capable kindergartners start at 4. https://www.chalkbeat.org/newyork/2020/2/4/21178551/your-child-s-birth-month-matters-nyc-students-born-in-november-and-december-are-classified-with-lear/

We need to level the playing field and match our rules to the rest of the country. Parents bragging about their 5-year-olds are so jejune.

If kids aren’t ready for kindergarten at 4, then parents just need to stop being lazy, work harder, and get them ready.

Seriously why. What’s the rush for? What are you chasing?

But also, in New York, 1/3 of students are forced to start at 4. The rule doesn’t care if you as the parent think it’s a rush.

My kid started at four. It was fine.