King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, that's now how that played out.

you should be asking your fcps for more transparency about how long they knew of this sale. the the alumni had the funds to buy but because fcps and the seller were already in discussion long before the sale went public they were already cut out. that's what the person was trying to tell you. this wasn't a transparent deal nor gave a fair chance to the alumni to buy.

Anonymous wrote:The KAA families have had since February to try and save the school. It is not FCPS fault the school closed. FCPS did not offer to buy the building leading the school to close. The Saudi Government announced it was pulling funding in February. All FCPS did was buy the building. The families have had since then to reach out to FCPS and ask questions about the public schools. It is absurd that you think that FCPS owes the KAA families, families who had already chosen to not attend public schools, some type of special consideration because FCPS bought the building.


Take this dreck to the private school forum or sue someone. No one here cares. We are happy FCPS finally gets the land for a more convenient to me high school.


FTFY.


Nope, I live in McLean and won’t be affected by this school personally. But my loyalties lie with FCPS and its decades long CIP entry for a Western HS, not with the Saudis.


Loyalties to a "decade long CIP entry"? WTF does that even mean?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, that's now how that played out.

you should be asking your fcps for more transparency about how long they knew of this sale. the the alumni had the funds to buy but because fcps and the seller were already in discussion long before the sale went public they were already cut out. that's what the person was trying to tell you. this wasn't a transparent deal nor gave a fair chance to the alumni to buy.

Anonymous wrote:The KAA families have had since February to try and save the school. It is not FCPS fault the school closed. FCPS did not offer to buy the building leading the school to close. The Saudi Government announced it was pulling funding in February. All FCPS did was buy the building. The families have had since then to reach out to FCPS and ask questions about the public schools. It is absurd that you think that FCPS owes the KAA families, families who had already chosen to not attend public schools, some type of special consideration because FCPS bought the building.


Take this dreck to the private school forum or sue someone. No one here cares. We are happy FCPS finally gets the land for a more convenient to me high school.


FTFY.


Nope, I live in McLean and won’t be affected by this school personally. But my loyalties lie with FCPS and its decades long CIP entry for a Western HS, not with the Saudis.


Loyalties to a "decade long CIP entry"? WTF does that even mean?


I care about FCPS. We have a long term need for a HS in the western part of the county. We will finally get it. Clear enough for you? Now get of the FCPS forum and go to the private school forum to complain about the closure of your private school.
Anonymous
I don't see an issue with schools being below capacity, especially in an area with a ton of construction.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't see an issue with schools being below capacity, especially in an area with a ton of construction.


There is a way that FCPS can take the lay up on this for the win, probably having Carson be the feeder and basically leaving it at that.

Hoping that the school board is smart enough not to tinker more than that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, that's now how that played out.

you should be asking your fcps for more transparency about how long they knew of this sale. the the alumni had the funds to buy but because fcps and the seller were already in discussion long before the sale went public they were already cut out. that's what the person was trying to tell you. this wasn't a transparent deal nor gave a fair chance to the alumni to buy.

Anonymous wrote:The KAA families have had since February to try and save the school. It is not FCPS fault the school closed. FCPS did not offer to buy the building leading the school to close. The Saudi Government announced it was pulling funding in February. All FCPS did was buy the building. The families have had since then to reach out to FCPS and ask questions about the public schools. It is absurd that you think that FCPS owes the KAA families, families who had already chosen to not attend public schools, some type of special consideration because FCPS bought the building.


Take this dreck to the private school forum or sue someone. No one here cares. We are happy FCPS finally gets the land for a more convenient to me high school.


FTFY.


Nope, I live in McLean and won’t be affected by this school personally. But my loyalties lie with FCPS and its decades long CIP entry for a Western HS, not with the Saudis.


Loyalties to a "decade long CIP entry"? WTF does that even mean?


I care about FCPS. We have a long term need for a HS in the western part of the county. We will finally get it. Clear enough for you? Now get of the FCPS forum and go to the private school forum to complain about the closure of your private school.


There may have been a need for a new HS in western Fairfax 15-20 years ago. Since then:

South Lakes expansions (2016, 2018)

Herndon expansion (2021)

Oakton expansion (2022)

Madison expansion (2022)

Centreville expansion (pending)

So tons of additional capacity added with excess capacity forecast in 2029 for the following schools serving kids in western Fairfax: Langley, Herndon, Chantilly, Westfield, Oakton, and Centreville. You plan to ignore that out of loyalty to a journal entry?
Anonymous
Madison is in Vienna.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't see an issue with schools being below capacity, especially in an area with a ton of construction.


In a perfect world, perhaps, but the FCPS world is far from perfect.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Madison is in Vienna.


And serves some areas well to the west of South Lakes. It was expanded based on the assumption it would continue to serve these areas.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Madison is in Vienna.


And serves some areas well to the west of South Lakes. It was expanded based on the assumption it would continue to serve these areas.


So, keep Fox Mill at South Lakes. No need to reduce population at South Lakes. Take the kids who go --or should go--to Chantilly (but are going to Oakton) and the Westfield kids between 50 and the toll road.

Coates
McNair
Floris
Oak Hill
Crossfield
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Madison is in Vienna.


And serves some areas well to the west of South Lakes. It was expanded based on the assumption it would continue to serve these areas.


So, keep Fox Mill at South Lakes. No need to reduce population at South Lakes. Take the kids who go --or should go--to Chantilly (but are going to Oakton) and the Westfield kids between 50 and the toll road.

Coates
McNair
Floris
Oak Hill
Crossfield


That makes sense but no telling if the school has capacity for all of those kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Madison is in Vienna.


And serves some areas well to the west of South Lakes. It was expanded based on the assumption it would continue to serve these areas.


So, keep Fox Mill at South Lakes. No need to reduce population at South Lakes. Take the kids who go --or should go--to Chantilly (but are going to Oakton) and the Westfield kids between 50 and the toll road.

Coates
McNair
Floris
Oak Hill
Crossfield


Floris is at SLHS to. If you are screwing over Fox Mill, you can screw over Floris as well. Or better yet, move both to the new school like the rest of Carson.

Losing the kids from SLHS to the new school would still leave SLHS at 90+% capacity, it is not going to under populate the school. Fox Mill got screwed when it was moved from Oakton to SLHS 20 or so years ago.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Madison is in Vienna.


And serves some areas well to the west of South Lakes. It was expanded based on the assumption it would continue to serve these areas.


So, keep Fox Mill at South Lakes. No need to reduce population at South Lakes. Take the kids who go --or should go--to Chantilly (but are going to Oakton) and the Westfield kids between 50 and the toll road.

Coates
McNair
Floris
Oak Hill
Crossfield


Floris is at SLHS to. If you are screwing over Fox Mill, you can screw over Floris as well. Or better yet, move both to the new school like the rest of Carson.

Losing the kids from SLHS to the new school would still leave SLHS at 90+% capacity, it is not going to under populate the school. Fox Mill got screwed when it was moved from Oakton to SLHS 20 or so years ago.


The KAA property sits in the Floris district so of course Floris would go to any new school.

Floris feeds to Westfield, as do Coates and McNair to the north. So they couldn't go to Westfield any longer without creating a new attendance island, which is frowned upon. So you either move them to the new school or you move Coates to Herndon and McNair to the new school, but there would be reluctance to move Coates to HHS given the demographics.

The main justification for this school is relieving overcrowding at Chantilly, so that pulls in Oak Hill, and Crossfield is the group complaining the most about traveling from the Sully District to Oakton.

No one knows yet what capacity is feasible at the new school. We only know the current private school enrollment is around 1000. So Coates, McNair, Floris, Oak Hill, and Crossfield may be all the new school can accommodate. Fox Mill may indeed need to stay at South Lakes. No one there can claim they are traveling as far to South Lakes as Crossfield kids are traveling to Oakton. And some other high schools only have four or five feeders.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:that's exactly the problem.

you thinking no one cares. very neighborly.



Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, that's now how that played out.

you should be asking your fcps for more transparency about how long they knew of this sale. the the alumni had the funds to buy but because fcps and the seller were already in discussion long before the sale went public they were already cut out. that's what the person was trying to tell you. this wasn't a transparent deal nor gave a fair chance to the alumni to buy.

Anonymous wrote:The KAA families have had since February to try and save the school. It is not FCPS fault the school closed. FCPS did not offer to buy the building leading the school to close. The Saudi Government announced it was pulling funding in February. All FCPS did was buy the building. The families have had since then to reach out to FCPS and ask questions about the public schools. It is absurd that you think that FCPS owes the KAA families, families who had already chosen to not attend public schools, some type of special consideration because FCPS bought the building.


Take this dreck to the private school forum or sue someone. No one here cares. We are happy FCPS finally gets the land for a much needed high school.


Why would anyone not affiliated with KAA care if it closes? Especially if the closure stands to benefit the larger community. Do you care when a random Christian or non religious school closes? I bet not. These things happen and sometimes we can’t just throw money around to get what we want. It’s a good lesson to learn.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Madison is in Vienna.


And serves some areas well to the west of South Lakes. It was expanded based on the assumption it would continue to serve these areas.


So, keep Fox Mill at South Lakes. No need to reduce population at South Lakes. Take the kids who go --or should go--to Chantilly (but are going to Oakton) and the Westfield kids between 50 and the toll road.

Coates
McNair
Floris
Oak Hill
Crossfield


Floris is at SLHS to. If you are screwing over Fox Mill, you can screw over Floris as well. Or better yet, move both to the new school like the rest of Carson.

Losing the kids from SLHS to the new school would still leave SLHS at 90+% capacity, it is not going to under populate the school. Fox Mill got screwed when it was moved from Oakton to SLHS 20 or so years ago.


The KAA property sits in the Floris district so of course Floris would go to any new school.

Floris feeds to Westfield, as do Coates and McNair to the north. So they couldn't go to Westfield any longer without creating a new attendance island, which is frowned upon. So you either move them to the new school or you move Coates to Herndon and McNair to the new school, but there would be reluctance to move Coates to HHS given the demographics.

The main justification for this school is relieving overcrowding at Chantilly, so that pulls in Oak Hill, and Crossfield is the group complaining the most about traveling from the Sully District to Oakton.

No one knows yet what capacity is feasible at the new school. We only know the current private school enrollment is around 1000. So Coates, McNair, Floris, Oak Hill, and Crossfield may be all the new school can accommodate. Fox Mill may indeed need to stay at South Lakes. No one there can claim they are traveling as far to South Lakes as Crossfield kids are traveling to Oakton. And some other high schools only have four or five feeders.


You are leaving off that keeping Carson at SLHS means moving it to Langston Hughes for MS to end the split feeder. Not only does Fox Mill get sacrificed to IB it moves to a weaker MS. That is BS. Oak Hill is at Westfield right now, they can stay there or move to Fox Mill and go to the new HS. Crossfield is as close to SLHS as Fox Mill and not at Carson, move them to SLHS.

Tired of Fox Mill being sacrificed because it is a smaller school with fewer parents to piss off.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Madison is in Vienna.


And serves some areas well to the west of South Lakes. It was expanded based on the assumption it would continue to serve these areas.


So, keep Fox Mill at South Lakes. No need to reduce population at South Lakes. Take the kids who go --or should go--to Chantilly (but are going to Oakton) and the Westfield kids between 50 and the toll road.

Coates
McNair
Floris
Oak Hill
Crossfield


Floris is at SLHS to. If you are screwing over Fox Mill, you can screw over Floris as well. Or better yet, move both to the new school like the rest of Carson.

Losing the kids from SLHS to the new school would still leave SLHS at 90+% capacity, it is not going to under populate the school. Fox Mill got screwed when it was moved from Oakton to SLHS 20 or so years ago.


The KAA property sits in the Floris district so of course Floris would go to any new school.

Floris feeds to Westfield, as do Coates and McNair to the north. So they couldn't go to Westfield any longer without creating a new attendance island, which is frowned upon. So you either move them to the new school or you move Coates to Herndon and McNair to the new school, but there would be reluctance to move Coates to HHS given the demographics.

The main justification for this school is relieving overcrowding at Chantilly, so that pulls in Oak Hill, and Crossfield is the group complaining the most about traveling from the Sully District to Oakton.

No one knows yet what capacity is feasible at the new school. We only know the current private school enrollment is around 1000. So Coates, McNair, Floris, Oak Hill, and Crossfield may be all the new school can accommodate. Fox Mill may indeed need to stay at South Lakes. No one there can claim they are traveling as far to South Lakes as Crossfield kids are traveling to Oakton. And some other high schools only have four or five feeders.


Um, I don't think people living in X district are all zoned to schools located in X district. Just saying, its not relevant.
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