anyone know about the "Virginia Valor Fathers Day Fiesta" or the "FPYC Fathers Day Tournament"

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Anonymous wrote:HS boys games 8-0 and 6-0 … almost as if Seniors 18yr olds were playing 15 year olds … a social experiment

But..that Valor guy posted growth charts from the CDC to prove there was no physical difference between an 8th grade boy and a 12th grade boy.

Don’t say Valor guy or CYA psycho mom will rip your head off. It was a Valor Tournament guy… as if the nuance matters.

No, it was me.

I live in Vienna, I used to be a soccer parent/parent coach, I write about soccer, and I'm a ref.

I have absolutely no affiliation with Valor whatsoever. Not even reffing there.

Oh Mr. Sanctimonious is back. Welcome.

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Anonymous wrote:Our club, Sterling, does FPYC every spring and when my kids played in rec, they had a good time.

I would be pretty uncomfortable with that South of the Border theme personally. Many of our older rec players are Hispanic kids. If i was in charge, there is no way I would be comfortable opting in for a tournament with that theming. (Why do they need a kitchsy jokey theme? Can't "All Stars" be the theme? I agree with pp's kid-the vibe is that rec soccer is a joke with janky medals.)

I looked up their ad for it. Its certainly a Vibe. I can see a bunch of old white guys named Mike and Steve all wearing Adidas tracksuits sitting around a table somewhere brainstorming ways to scam money out of rec players and cackling with laughter over the "Mexican hat" theme. 'Its just rec! Its just for fun! Who cares? Let's get sombreros! Taco Tuesday!" Yukyukyuk.

Its too bad for the cya all star players who don't get to go to a decent tournament bc some greedy old guys want to make money off them. I know most of us do have that 'its just rec' feeling to a certain extent but the all star teams are usually the more serious rec players who maybe can't afford club.

The whole tournament will probably just be CYA teams playing each other for the coveted sombrero cup. Then some loser coach will act all high and mighty that they finally won a rec tournament and get a glass frame for the mexican hat cup and put it on display in their home office along with their boy scout badges from 1989.

Have all stars teams even been announced yet with player submissions and line-ups? Our group coordinator usually waits until the last minute to put the team together and coaches it with 1-2 practice sessions total for about a week before the tournament. Then everyone is shocked that our team usually loses and he makes up some conspiracy excuses as to why we lost.

Just curious how other all star teams do it. I hear that some leagues and coordinators actually form a team at the beginning to middle of the season and add an extra practice session per week leading up to the tournament.

Our rec team sends invites about 2 weeks before the tournament. They practice twice a week so get in 4 or 5 sessions before the tournament.

I wouldn't take the all star thing too seriously or worry about extra practices. It's just a fun thing at the end of the year that gets tacked on for a few kids that might get a medal (maybe even a sombrero medal

Are there coaches that take it too seriously and go nuts? Sure. We generally know who they are and they are the definitive mayor of loserville. Ignore them and try to have fun anyway if your DC is selected. Generally this is a meaningless tournament filled with a handful of kids (usually the coach or coordinators kid and his/her friends) just having snow cones and after a meaningless tournament.

Yikes, some of these kids try hard and feel.proud for being selected. This is a rude take.

+1 yes it seems a little quaint once your kid is playing at a much higher level but most of the kids participating on all star league tried out and made the team and want to compete and do well. its rude to act like its no big deal and give them some cheap hat or a snowcone.

Let’s be honest about these so called “tryouts” for all stars. We had a group coordinator who was also the all star coach. He was always the all star coach because as group coordinator he picks the coach. Shocker! Ultimately, the tryout was a fake sideshow to allow him to set the all star team with his DD and her friends. There were many more talented players in the league that he bypassed.

I don’t think the PP is trying to belittle all stars or the players but let’s not kid ourselves what it is. It’s not really like travel tournaments or travel tryouts. Those coaches are legit and their teams are assigned accordingly.

Or they’re 7 years old and this makes them feel proud because they’re 7. That’s it. If my DC made an “all star” and got to feel special for 3 games, then it’s worth it.

This!!! One bracket of the whole tournament may have some old 8th graders playing against highschooler's and apparently that means everyone should boycott. The majority of the participants are young kids and volunteer parents that just want to play some more soccer with kids that want to be there.

I look forward to my kids team trying to not get destroyed by loudoun. And if they do we will still go out for ice cream after.

Nice job replying to your own message. Your last 3 pro-Valor posts are within 5 minutes of each other Karen. Also 7 year olds don’t do all stars. Nice attempt to elicit sympathy. And Loudoun will kick your ass assuming you coach CYA. If you’re SYA then you might have a chance and I wish you luck. But by the tone of your 3 messages I’m assuming you’re a CYA parent.

Sounds like you need to take your QAnon conspiracy theories elsewhere. Personally, I am a CYA mom who posted once. And my 7yo feels proud. No sympathy just pointing out that’s it’s a rec all stars and who cares. Lastly, WTF cares if loudoun beats them. It’s rec soccer.

Your ”little man” syndrome is blindingly apparent.

And your entitled suburban mom syndrome is apparent. Sounds like some Valor parents feelings got hurt because they're in the lamest all star game and no one gives a crap. Enjoy your lame tournament and do your husband a favor and don't make him go to the lame tournament to spend it with you.

Is this literally your response? In negative way do I see anything I’ve said to indicate I’m a “valor parent”. Because my family lives closest to Sully (as far as youth/ rec leagues), we chose CYA. And it’s a damn rec team. Next spring it’ll be dance for all I know. Thats it. It’s actually not entitlement…just common sense. And I dont make my husband do anything. He actually enjoys watching his child be happy, even if they lose! But bless your heart…. You go on being your special self

Pp is unhinged. There are no "valor" parents in this tournament, there are no "valor" teams in this tournament. It's a rec all star tournament being run by Valor to make money. Valor parents have zero involvement.

Why Valor doesn't run a travel tournament instead is strange to me. Maybe rec tournaments are easier money.[/quote

It's essentially a Valor recruitment event. Everyone from DD's team that was asked to do the All Star team is playing in Valor next year.

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Anonymous wrote:Our club, Sterling, does FPYC every spring and when my kids played in rec, they had a good time.

I would be pretty uncomfortable with that South of the Border theme personally. Many of our older rec players are Hispanic kids. If i was in charge, there is no way I would be comfortable opting in for a tournament with that theming. (Why do they need a kitchsy jokey theme? Can't "All Stars" be the theme? I agree with pp's kid-the vibe is that rec soccer is a joke with janky medals.)

I looked up their ad for it. Its certainly a Vibe. I can see a bunch of old white guys named Mike and Steve all wearing Adidas tracksuits sitting around a table somewhere brainstorming ways to scam money out of rec players and cackling with laughter over the "Mexican hat" theme. 'Its just rec! Its just for fun! Who cares? Let's get sombreros! Taco Tuesday!" Yukyukyuk.

Its too bad for the cya all star players who don't get to go to a decent tournament bc some greedy old guys want to make money off them. I know most of us do have that 'its just rec' feeling to a certain extent but the all star teams are usually the more serious rec players who maybe can't afford club.

The whole tournament will probably just be CYA teams playing each other for the coveted sombrero cup. Then some loser coach will act all high and mighty that they finally won a rec tournament and get a glass frame for the mexican hat cup and put it on display in their home office along with their boy scout badges from 1989.

Have all stars teams even been announced yet with player submissions and line-ups? Our group coordinator usually waits until the last minute to put the team together and coaches it with 1-2 practice sessions total for about a week before the tournament. Then everyone is shocked that our team usually loses and he makes up some conspiracy excuses as to why we lost.

Just curious how other all star teams do it. I hear that some leagues and coordinators actually form a team at the beginning to middle of the season and add an extra practice session per week leading up to the tournament.

Our rec team sends invites about 2 weeks before the tournament. They practice twice a week so get in 4 or 5 sessions before the tournament.

I wouldn't take the all star thing too seriously or worry about extra practices. It's just a fun thing at the end of the year that gets tacked on for a few kids that might get a medal (maybe even a sombrero medal

Are there coaches that take it too seriously and go nuts? Sure. We generally know who they are and they are the definitive mayor of loserville. Ignore them and try to have fun anyway if your DC is selected. Generally this is a meaningless tournament filled with a handful of kids (usually the coach or coordinators kid and his/her friends) just having snow cones and after a meaningless tournament.

Yikes, some of these kids try hard and feel.proud for being selected. This is a rude take.

+1 yes it seems a little quaint once your kid is playing at a much higher level but most of the kids participating on all star league tried out and made the team and want to compete and do well. its rude to act like its no big deal and give them some cheap hat or a snowcone.

Let’s be honest about these so called “tryouts” for all stars. We had a group coordinator who was also the all star coach. He was always the all star coach because as group coordinator he picks the coach. Shocker! Ultimately, the tryout was a fake sideshow to allow him to set the all star team with his DD and her friends. There were many more talented players in the league that he bypassed.

I don’t think the PP is trying to belittle all stars or the players but let’s not kid ourselves what it is. It’s not really like travel tournaments or travel tryouts. Those coaches are legit and their teams are assigned accordingly.

Or they’re 7 years old and this makes them feel proud because they’re 7. That’s it. If my DC made an “all star” and got to feel special for 3 games, then it’s worth it.

This!!! One bracket of the whole tournament may have some old 8th graders playing against highschooler's and apparently that means everyone should boycott. The majority of the participants are young kids and volunteer parents that just want to play some more soccer with kids that want to be there.

I look forward to my kids team trying to not get destroyed by loudoun. And if they do we will still go out for ice cream after.

Nice job replying to your own message. Your last 3 pro-Valor posts are within 5 minutes of each other Karen. Also 7 year olds don’t do all stars. Nice attempt to elicit sympathy. And Loudoun will kick your ass assuming you coach CYA. If you’re SYA then you might have a chance and I wish you luck. But by the tone of your 3 messages I’m assuming you’re a CYA parent.

Sounds like you need to take your QAnon conspiracy theories elsewhere. Personally, I am a CYA mom who posted once. And my 7yo feels proud. No sympathy just pointing out that’s it’s a rec all stars and who cares. Lastly, WTF cares if loudoun beats them. It’s rec soccer.

Your ”little man” syndrome is blindingly apparent.

And your entitled suburban mom syndrome is apparent. Sounds like some Valor parents feelings got hurt because they're in the lamest all star game and no one gives a crap. Enjoy your lame tournament and do your husband a favor and don't make him go to the lame tournament to spend it with you.

Is this literally your response? In negative way do I see anything I’ve said to indicate I’m a “valor parent”. Because my family lives closest to Sully (as far as youth/ rec leagues), we chose CYA. And it’s a damn rec team. Next spring it’ll be dance for all I know. Thats it. It’s actually not entitlement…just common sense. And I dont make my husband do anything. He actually enjoys watching his child be happy, even if they lose! But bless your heart…. You go on being your special self

Pp is unhinged. There are no "valor" parents in this tournament, there are no "valor" teams in this tournament. It's a rec all star tournament being run by Valor to make money. Valor parents have zero involvement.

Why Valor doesn't run a travel tournament instead is strange to me. Maybe rec tournaments are easier money

It's essentially a Valor recruitment event. Everyone from DD's team that was asked to do the All Star team is playing in Valor next year.

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Anonymous wrote:HS boys games 8-0 and 6-0 … almost as if Seniors 18yr olds were playing 15 year olds … a social experiment

One of the HS teams played with 9 because of two red cards. And one is very, very good.

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Had two kids play, my husband coached. The day was hot in the afternoon but the sites we were at were organized, the refs seemed to be doing a good job, they had trainers at both sites (nice touch), and everyone seemed to be in good spirits. The staff at both fields greeted us and were friendly and present all day. I got the feeling that they are very invested in making it a good experience for us, and they succeeded.

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Anonymous wrote:Had two kids play, my husband coached. The day was hot in the afternoon but the sites we were at were organized, the refs seemed to be doing a good job, they had trainers at both sites (nice touch), and everyone seemed to be in good spirits. The staff at both fields greeted us and were friendly and present all day. I got the feeling that they are very invested in making it a good experience for us, and they succeeded.

There was no one from Valor at our field morning or afternoon. Empty tent for the missing person, no shade tents put up for the players though.

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Anonymous wrote:Some realllllly lopsided scores so far across the board.

That rarely happens at the fpyc tournament.

Uhhhh ... no. It happens at FPYC, and it happens at Herndon. There's no good way to gauge the strength of a bunch of teams that were assembled a couple of weeks prior to the event.

FPYC limits the margin that applies to the standings to five goals. Not sure how that affects what they input on the site.

My kids never had blowouts in FPYC or Herndon like they have had two years in a row at this Valor event.

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Anonymous wrote:Had two kids play, my husband coached. The day was hot in the afternoon but the sites we were at were organized, the refs seemed to be doing a good job, they had trainers at both sites (nice touch), and everyone seemed to be in good spirits. The staff at both fields greeted us and were friendly and present all day. I got the feeling that they are very invested in making it a good experience for us, and they succeeded.

Interesting. What org is your husband coaching for and which age groups?

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Did the u16s get the red cards playing against the 19 year olds?

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I don’t know the age groups of either team. Just that a team got two reds. I can’t tell how old the majority of the teams are, but one that says it’s U16 is undefeated.

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Anonymous wrote:HS boys games 8-0 and 6-0 … almost as if Seniors 18yr olds were playing 15 year olds … a social experiment

But..that Valor guy posted growth charts from the CDC to prove there was no physical difference between an 8th grade boy and a 12th grade boy.

Don’t say Valor guy or CYA psycho mom will rip your head off. It was a Valor Tournament guy… as if the nuance matters.

No, it was me.

I live in Vienna, I used to be a soccer parent/parent coach, I write about soccer, and I'm a ref.

I have absolutely no affiliation with Valor whatsoever. Not even reffing there.

Oh Mr. Sanctimonious is back. Welcome.

I know — I ruin everyone’s trolling. Sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:Some realllllly lopsided scores so far across the board.

That rarely happens at the fpyc tournament.

Uhhhh ... no. It happens at FPYC, and it happens at Herndon. There's no good way to gauge the strength of a bunch of teams that were assembled a couple of weeks prior to the event.

FPYC limits the margin that applies to the standings to five goals. Not sure how that affects what they input on the site.

My kids never had blowouts in FPYC or Herndon like they have had two years in a row at this Valor event.

Oh because it never happened to you it's never happened ....

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Anonymous wrote:Some realllllly lopsided scores so far across the board.

That rarely happens at the fpyc tournament.

Uhhhh ... no. It happens at FPYC, and it happens at Herndon. There's no good way to gauge the strength of a bunch of teams that were assembled a couple of weeks prior to the event.

FPYC limits the margin that applies to the standings to five goals. Not sure how that affects what they input on the site.

My kids never had blowouts in FPYC or Herndon like they have had two years in a row at this Valor event.

Oh because it never happened to you it's never happened ....

We also have never had blowouts at Fpyc or Herndon like we saw today. Very few even games at this tournament apparently
across the board. Its all online, compare fpyc scores with valor's. Shrug.

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Anonymous wrote:Had two kids play, my husband coached. The day was hot in the afternoon but the sites we were at were organized, the refs seemed to be doing a good job, they had trainers at both sites (nice touch), and everyone seemed to be in good spirits. The staff at both fields greeted us and were friendly and present all day. I got the feeling that they are very invested in making it a good experience for us, and they succeeded.

There was no one from Valor at our field morning or afternoon. Empty tent for the missing person, no shade tents put up for the players though.

If Valor guy is reading this, please put shade up for the kids. You own a ton of Valor tents,
stop being lazy and put the up.

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Anonymous wrote:HS boys games 8-0 and 6-0 … almost as if Seniors 18yr olds were playing 15 year olds … a social experiment

But..that Valor guy posted growth charts from the CDC to prove there was no physical difference between an 8th grade boy and a 12th grade boy.

Don’t say Valor guy or CYA psycho mom will rip your head off. It was a Valor Tournament guy… as if the nuance matters.

No, it was me.

I live in Vienna, I used to be a soccer parent/parent coach, I write about soccer, and I'm a ref.

I have absolutely no affiliation with Valor whatsoever. Not even reffing there.

Oh Mr. Sanctimonious is back. Welcome.

I know — I ruin everyone’s trolling. Sorry.

You ruin everyone’s trolling with cdc reports and growth charts? I don’t think so.