anyone know about the "Virginia Valor Fathers Day Fiesta" or the "FPYC Fathers Day Tournament"

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Anonymous wrote:Our club, Sterling, does FPYC every spring and when my kids played in rec, they had a good time.

I would be pretty uncomfortable with that South of the Border theme personally. Many of our older rec players are Hispanic kids. If i was in charge, there is no way I would be comfortable opting in for a tournament with that theming. (Why do they need a kitchsy jokey theme? Can't "All Stars" be the theme? I agree with pp's kid-the vibe is that rec soccer is a joke with janky medals.)

I looked up their ad for it. Its certainly a Vibe. I can see a bunch of old white guys named Mike and Steve all wearing Adidas tracksuits sitting around a table somewhere brainstorming ways to scam money out of rec players and cackling with laughter over the "Mexican hat" theme. 'Its just rec! Its just for fun! Who cares? Let's get sombreros! Taco Tuesday!" Yukyukyuk.

Its too bad for the cya all star players who don't get to go to a decent tournament bc some greedy old guys want to make money off them. I know most of us do have that 'its just rec' feeling to a certain extent but the all star teams are usually the more serious rec players who maybe can't afford club.

The whole tournament will probably just be CYA teams playing each other for the coveted sombrero cup. Then some loser coach will act all high and mighty that they finally won a rec tournament and get a glass frame for the mexican hat cup and put it on display in their home office along with their boy scout badges from 1989.

Have all stars teams even been announced yet with player submissions and line-ups? Our group coordinator usually waits until the last minute to put the team together and coaches it with 1-2 practice sessions total for about a week before the tournament. Then everyone is shocked that our team usually loses and he makes up some conspiracy excuses as to why we lost.

Just curious how other all star teams do it. I hear that some leagues and coordinators actually form a team at the beginning to middle of the season and add an extra practice session per week leading up to the tournament.

Our rec team sends invites about 2 weeks before the tournament. They practice twice a week so get in 4 or 5 sessions before the tournament.

I wouldn't take the all star thing too seriously or worry about extra practices. It's just a fun thing at the end of the year that gets tacked on for a few kids that might get a medal (maybe even a sombrero medal

Are there coaches that take it too seriously and go nuts? Sure. We generally know who they are and they are the definitive mayor of loserville. Ignore them and try to have fun anyway if your DC is selected. Generally this is a meaningless tournament filled with a handful of kids (usually the coach or coordinators kid and his/her friends) just having snow cones and after a meaningless tournament.

Yikes, some of these kids try hard and feel.proud for being selected. This is a rude take.

+1 yes it seems a little quaint once your kid is playing at a much higher level but most of the kids participating on all star league tried out and made the team and want to compete and do well. its rude to act like its no big deal and give them some cheap hat or a snowcone.

Let’s be honest about these so called “tryouts” for all stars. We had a group coordinator who was also the all star coach. He was always the all star coach because as group coordinator he picks the coach. Shocker! Ultimately, the tryout was a fake sideshow to allow him to set the all star team with his DD and her friends. There were many more talented players in the league that he bypassed.

I don’t think the PP is trying to belittle all stars or the players but let’s not kid ourselves what it is. It’s not really like travel tournaments or travel tryouts. Those coaches are legit and their teams are assigned accordingly.

Or they’re 7 years old and this makes them feel proud because they’re 7. That’s it. If my DC made an “all star” and got to feel special for 3 games, then it’s worth it.

This!!! One bracket of the whole tournament may have some old 8th graders playing against highschooler's and apparently that means everyone should boycott. The majority of the participants are young kids and volunteer parents that just want to play some more soccer with kids that want to be there.

I look forward to my kids team trying to not get destroyed by loudoun. And if they do we will still go out for ice cream after.

Nice job replying to your own message. Your last 3 pro-Valor posts are within 5 minutes of each other Karen. Also 7 year olds don’t do all stars. Nice attempt to elicit sympathy. And Loudoun will kick your ass assuming you coach CYA. If you’re SYA then you might have a chance and I wish you luck. But by the tone of your 3 messages I’m assuming you’re a CYA parent.

Sounds like you need to take your QAnon conspiracy theories elsewhere. Personally, I am a CYA mom who posted once. And my 7yo feels proud. No sympathy just pointing out that’s it’s a rec all stars and who cares. Lastly, WTF cares if loudoun beats them. It’s rec soccer.

Your ”little man” syndrome is blindingly apparent.

And your entitled suburban mom syndrome is apparent. Sounds like some Valor parents feelings got hurt because they're in the lamest all star game and no one gives a crap. Enjoy your lame tournament and do your husband a favor and don't make him go to the lame tournament to spend it with you.

Is this literally your response? In negative way do I see anything I’ve said to indicate I’m a “valor parent”. Because my family lives closest to Sully (as far as youth/ rec leagues), we chose CYA. And it’s a damn rec team. Next spring it’ll be dance for all I know. Thats it. It’s actually not entitlement…just common sense. And I dont make my husband do anything. He actually enjoys watching his child be happy, even if they lose! But bless your heart…. You go on being your special self

You two are very mature. You started calling him little man he started calling entitled suburban mom that annoys her husband. Very childish behavior.

People always try to play the victim after they start the childish attacks. And don’t be so literal on “valor parents” … clearly meant valor tournament parents.

HAHA What??? Valor Parents = tournament parents yeah no not even close.
But at SYA park for the younger kids everyone seemed to be having a great day of soccer. Which I think is the point of a rec tournament shrug.

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Anonymous wrote:Our club, Sterling, does FPYC every spring and when my kids played in rec, they had a good time.

I would be pretty uncomfortable with that South of the Border theme personally. Many of our older rec players are Hispanic kids. If i was in charge, there is no way I would be comfortable opting in for a tournament with that theming. (Why do they need a kitchsy jokey theme? Can't "All Stars" be the theme? I agree with pp's kid-the vibe is that rec soccer is a joke with janky medals.)

I looked up their ad for it. Its certainly a Vibe. I can see a bunch of old white guys named Mike and Steve all wearing Adidas tracksuits sitting around a table somewhere brainstorming ways to scam money out of rec players and cackling with laughter over the "Mexican hat" theme. 'Its just rec! Its just for fun! Who cares? Let's get sombreros! Taco Tuesday!" Yukyukyuk.

Its too bad for the cya all star players who don't get to go to a decent tournament bc some greedy old guys want to make money off them. I know most of us do have that 'its just rec' feeling to a certain extent but the all star teams are usually the more serious rec players who maybe can't afford club.

The whole tournament will probably just be CYA teams playing each other for the coveted sombrero cup. Then some loser coach will act all high and mighty that they finally won a rec tournament and get a glass frame for the mexican hat cup and put it on display in their home office along with their boy scout badges from 1989.

Have all stars teams even been announced yet with player submissions and line-ups? Our group coordinator usually waits until the last minute to put the team together and coaches it with 1-2 practice sessions total for about a week before the tournament. Then everyone is shocked that our team usually loses and he makes up some conspiracy excuses as to why we lost.

Just curious how other all star teams do it. I hear that some leagues and coordinators actually form a team at the beginning to middle of the season and add an extra practice session per week leading up to the tournament.

Our rec team sends invites about 2 weeks before the tournament. They practice twice a week so get in 4 or 5 sessions before the tournament.

I wouldn't take the all star thing too seriously or worry about extra practices. It's just a fun thing at the end of the year that gets tacked on for a few kids that might get a medal (maybe even a sombrero medal

Are there coaches that take it too seriously and go nuts? Sure. We generally know who they are and they are the definitive mayor of loserville. Ignore them and try to have fun anyway if your DC is selected. Generally this is a meaningless tournament filled with a handful of kids (usually the coach or coordinators kid and his/her friends) just having snow cones and after a meaningless tournament.

Yikes, some of these kids try hard and feel.proud for being selected. This is a rude take.

+1 yes it seems a little quaint once your kid is playing at a much higher level but most of the kids participating on all star league tried out and made the team and want to compete and do well. its rude to act like its no big deal and give them some cheap hat or a snowcone.

Let’s be honest about these so called “tryouts” for all stars. We had a group coordinator who was also the all star coach. He was always the all star coach because as group coordinator he picks the coach. Shocker! Ultimately, the tryout was a fake sideshow to allow him to set the all star team with his DD and her friends. There were many more talented players in the league that he bypassed.

I don’t think the PP is trying to belittle all stars or the players but let’s not kid ourselves what it is. It’s not really like travel tournaments or travel tryouts. Those coaches are legit and their teams are assigned accordingly.

Or they’re 7 years old and this makes them feel proud because they’re 7. That’s it. If my DC made an “all star” and got to feel special for 3 games, then it’s worth it.

This!!! One bracket of the whole tournament may have some old 8th graders playing against highschooler's and apparently that means everyone should boycott. The majority of the participants are young kids and volunteer parents that just want to play some more soccer with kids that want to be there.

I look forward to my kids team trying to not get destroyed by loudoun. And if they do we will still go out for ice cream after.

Nice job replying to your own message. Your last 3 pro-Valor posts are within 5 minutes of each other Karen. Also 7 year olds don’t do all stars. Nice attempt to elicit sympathy. And Loudoun will kick your ass assuming you coach CYA. If you’re SYA then you might have a chance and I wish you luck. But by the tone of your 3 messages I’m assuming you’re a CYA parent.

Sounds like you need to take your QAnon conspiracy theories elsewhere. Personally, I am a CYA mom who posted once. And my 7yo feels proud. No sympathy just pointing out that’s it’s a rec all stars and who cares. Lastly, WTF cares if loudoun beats them. It’s rec soccer.

Your ”little man” syndrome is blindingly apparent.

And your entitled suburban mom syndrome is apparent. Sounds like some Valor parents feelings got hurt because they're in the lamest all star game and no one gives a crap. Enjoy your lame tournament and do your husband a favor and don't make him go to the lame tournament to spend it with you.

Is this literally your response? In negative way do I see anything I’ve said to indicate I’m a “valor parent”. Because my family lives closest to Sully (as far as youth/ rec leagues), we chose CYA. And it’s a damn rec team. Next spring it’ll be dance for all I know. Thats it. It’s actually not entitlement…just common sense. And I dont make my husband do anything. He actually enjoys watching his child be happy, even if they lose! But bless your heart…. You go on being your special self

You two are very mature. You started calling him little man he started calling entitled suburban mom that annoys her husband. Very childish behavior.

People always try to play the victim after they start the childish attacks. And don’t be so literal on “valor parents” … clearly meant valor tournament parents.

HAHA What??? Valor Parents = tournament parents yeah no not even close.
But at SYA park for the younger kids everyone seemed to be having a great day of soccer. Which I think is the point of a rec tournament shrug.

Wrong. The point of having a rec ALL STAR tournament is to set up good competitive games for the all star players. "Having fun" is the regular rec season.

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Some realllllly lopsided scores so far across the board.

That rarely happens at the fpyc tournament.

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Anonymous wrote:Our club, Sterling, does FPYC every spring and when my kids played in rec, they had a good time.

I would be pretty uncomfortable with that South of the Border theme personally. Many of our older rec players are Hispanic kids. If i was in charge, there is no way I would be comfortable opting in for a tournament with that theming. (Why do they need a kitchsy jokey theme? Can't "All Stars" be the theme? I agree with pp's kid-the vibe is that rec soccer is a joke with janky medals.)

I looked up their ad for it. Its certainly a Vibe. I can see a bunch of old white guys named Mike and Steve all wearing Adidas tracksuits sitting around a table somewhere brainstorming ways to scam money out of rec players and cackling with laughter over the "Mexican hat" theme. 'Its just rec! Its just for fun! Who cares? Let's get sombreros! Taco Tuesday!" Yukyukyuk.

Its too bad for the cya all star players who don't get to go to a decent tournament bc some greedy old guys want to make money off them. I know most of us do have that 'its just rec' feeling to a certain extent but the all star teams are usually the more serious rec players who maybe can't afford club.

The whole tournament will probably just be CYA teams playing each other for the coveted sombrero cup. Then some loser coach will act all high and mighty that they finally won a rec tournament and get a glass frame for the mexican hat cup and put it on display in their home office along with their boy scout badges from 1989.

Have all stars teams even been announced yet with player submissions and line-ups? Our group coordinator usually waits until the last minute to put the team together and coaches it with 1-2 practice sessions total for about a week before the tournament. Then everyone is shocked that our team usually loses and he makes up some conspiracy excuses as to why we lost.

Just curious how other all star teams do it. I hear that some leagues and coordinators actually form a team at the beginning to middle of the season and add an extra practice session per week leading up to the tournament.

Our rec team sends invites about 2 weeks before the tournament. They practice twice a week so get in 4 or 5 sessions before the tournament.

I wouldn't take the all star thing too seriously or worry about extra practices. It's just a fun thing at the end of the year that gets tacked on for a few kids that might get a medal (maybe even a sombrero medal

Are there coaches that take it too seriously and go nuts? Sure. We generally know who they are and they are the definitive mayor of loserville. Ignore them and try to have fun anyway if your DC is selected. Generally this is a meaningless tournament filled with a handful of kids (usually the coach or coordinators kid and his/her friends) just having snow cones and after a meaningless tournament.

Yikes, some of these kids try hard and feel.proud for being selected. This is a rude take.

+1 yes it seems a little quaint once your kid is playing at a much higher level but most of the kids participating on all star league tried out and made the team and want to compete and do well. its rude to act like its no big deal and give them some cheap hat or a snowcone.

Let’s be honest about these so called “tryouts” for all stars. We had a group coordinator who was also the all star coach. He was always the all star coach because as group coordinator he picks the coach. Shocker! Ultimately, the tryout was a fake sideshow to allow him to set the all star team with his DD and her friends. There were many more talented players in the league that he bypassed.

I don’t think the PP is trying to belittle all stars or the players but let’s not kid ourselves what it is. It’s not really like travel tournaments or travel tryouts. Those coaches are legit and their teams are assigned accordingly.

Or they’re 7 years old and this makes them feel proud because they’re 7. That’s it. If my DC made an “all star” and got to feel special for 3 games, then it’s worth it.

This!!! One bracket of the whole tournament may have some old 8th graders playing against highschooler's and apparently that means everyone should boycott. The majority of the participants are young kids and volunteer parents that just want to play some more soccer with kids that want to be there.

I look forward to my kids team trying to not get destroyed by loudoun. And if they do we will still go out for ice cream after.

Nice job replying to your own message. Your last 3 pro-Valor posts are within 5 minutes of each other Karen. Also 7 year olds don’t do all stars. Nice attempt to elicit sympathy. And Loudoun will kick your ass assuming you coach CYA. If you’re SYA then you might have a chance and I wish you luck. But by the tone of your 3 messages I’m assuming you’re a CYA parent.

Sounds like you need to take your QAnon conspiracy theories elsewhere. Personally, I am a CYA mom who posted once. And my 7yo feels proud. No sympathy just pointing out that’s it’s a rec all stars and who cares. Lastly, WTF cares if loudoun beats them. It’s rec soccer.

Your ”little man” syndrome is blindingly apparent.

And your entitled suburban mom syndrome is apparent. Sounds like some Valor parents feelings got hurt because they're in the lamest all star game and no one gives a crap. Enjoy your lame tournament and do your husband a favor and don't make him go to the lame tournament to spend it with you.

Is this literally your response? In negative way do I see anything I’ve said to indicate I’m a “valor parent”. Because my family lives closest to Sully (as far as youth/ rec leagues), we chose CYA. And it’s a damn rec team. Next spring it’ll be dance for all I know. Thats it. It’s actually not entitlement…just common sense. And I dont make my husband do anything. He actually enjoys watching his child be happy, even if they lose! But bless your heart…. You go on being your special self

You two are very mature. You started calling him little man he started calling entitled suburban mom that annoys her husband. Very childish behavior.

People always try to play the victim after they start the childish attacks. And don’t be so literal on “valor parents” … clearly meant valor tournament parents.

HAHA What??? Valor Parents = tournament parents yeah no not even close.
But at SYA park for the younger kids everyone seemed to be having a great day of soccer. Which I think is the point of a rec tournament shrug.

It’s the Valor tournament dummy. You wanna make your point over a typo then you’re a bigger moron than I originally thought.

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Anonymous wrote:Some realllllly lopsided scores so far across the board.

That rarely happens at the fpyc tournament.

Despite what that stupid cya mom says this is a lame tournament. It’s not about making sure her little Larlo “has fun”. It should have been about putting the best players in the league together to compete(ie like FYPC. Duh!)

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Why does this tournament have SO MANY un-even games? They have hardly any close games in all the age groups.

This rarely happened in the Herndon or FPYC tournaments my kids have played in (and we have 4 kids! Lots of all star tournaments)--so it can't be rocket science.

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HS boys games 8-0 and 6-0 … almost as if Seniors 18yr olds were playing 15 year olds … a social experiment

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Anonymous wrote:Why does this tournament have SO MANY un-even games? They have hardly any close games in all the age groups.

This rarely happened in the Herndon or FPYC tournaments my kids have played in (and we have 4 kids! Lots of all star tournaments)--so it can't be rocket science.

because herndon and fpyc tournaments are run by *rec soccer orgs*. they care about the rec kids and getting things right. valor does not give a crap once they get paid. to the people who run valor, all rec teams are the same so just toss em in a bracket whatever.

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Anonymous wrote:HS boys games 8-0 and 6-0 … almost as if Seniors 18yr olds were playing 15 year olds … a social experiment

some of the 2005s could actually be 19, to be accurate.

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Anonymous wrote:HS boys games 8-0 and 6-0 … almost as if Seniors 18yr olds were playing 15 year olds … a social experiment

But..that Valor guy posted growth charts from the CDC to prove there was no physical difference between an 8th grade boy and a 12th grade boy.

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Anonymous wrote:HS boys games 8-0 and 6-0 … almost as if Seniors 18yr olds were playing 15 year olds … a social experiment

But..that Valor guy posted growth charts from the CDC to prove there was no physical difference between an 8th grade boy and a 12th grade boy.

Don’t say Valor guy or CYA psycho mom will rip your head off. It was a Valor Tournament guy… as if the nuance matters.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does this tournament have SO MANY un-even games? They have hardly any close games in all the age groups.

This rarely happened in the Herndon or FPYC tournaments my kids have played in (and we have 4 kids! Lots of all star tournaments)--so it can't be rocket science.

because herndon and fpyc tournaments are run by *rec soccer orgs*. they care about the rec kids and getting things right. valor does not give a crap once they get paid. to the people who run valor, all rec teams are the same so just toss em in a bracket whatever.

+1

This may be one of the most accurate and well stated descriptions of why the Valor Tournament is a disaster.

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Anonymous wrote:Some realllllly lopsided scores so far across the board.

That rarely happens at the fpyc tournament.

Uhhhh ... no. It happens at FPYC, and it happens at Herndon. There's no good way to gauge the strength of a bunch of teams that were assembled a couple of weeks prior to the event.

FPYC limits the margin that applies to the standings to five goals. Not sure how that affects what they input on the site.

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Anonymous wrote:HS boys games 8-0 and 6-0 … almost as if Seniors 18yr olds were playing 15 year olds … a social experiment

But..that Valor guy posted growth charts from the CDC to prove there was no physical difference between an 8th grade boy and a 12th grade boy.

Don’t say Valor guy or CYA psycho mom will rip your head off. It was a Valor Tournament guy… as if the nuance matters.

No, it was me.

I live in Vienna, I used to be a soccer parent/parent coach, I write about soccer, and I'm a ref.

I have absolutely no affiliation with Valor whatsoever. Not even reffing there.

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A couple of the U16 teams, including the one that is explicitly entered as a U16 team, are holding their own in the U19 group.

That Universal FC team must be a monster.