ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

[Anonymous]

Someone just bought the fairfax union domain: http://www.fairfaxunion.com/

No one owns fairfaxvirginiaunion.com . If I'm an enterprising SYC, I buy it.

[Anonymous]

If I'm McLean, I form an alliance with Potomac for the girls side. Gives an option in MOCO, and gives Potomac girls a pathway to ECNL (boys already are)

[Anonymous]

Lies, the domain was purchased back in 11/07/2021...... Fake news all over huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've never seen so much time, energy, and effort spent debating the future of two clubs that at most age groups range from mediocre to awful. And I'm mainly talking about the boys side. Suggestion - rather than spending hours on this board contemplating something beyond your control - chart your own destiny and drive a little further to a serious club. To be sure, they all have issues and are driven by money. But, there is little reason for a skilled boy player to remain at Brave or Union. It's not a coincidence that the top level players almost all move elsewhere. At some point, the writing is on the wall. If "Go Big or Go Home" is the mantra, you are never leaving the house with Brave and Union. If it's not, then accept that your kid is just doing high level rec soccer and live with it.

Thank you for your words of wisdom, your kid will also be a great addition to the college intramural team!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The process, if it happens, will be misery. 30+ ECNL players for each age group? Very sucky process and many will be cut off.

Curious to see if the practices will be split between the two clubs’ existing fields like with the SYC partnership.

It’s 3 clubs - VYS, MYS, BRYC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McLean carries HUGE rosters. I don't see how merging is going to work. How are you merging rosters of 30 with roster of 22. That's 52 kids. And, sorry, you can't tell in 2-3 ID sessions who is a 'main' player which also varies by coach's preferences and style of play. Where are all the excess kids going? Not sure at the recruiting years many will want lower than ECNL/GA/MLSn, etc.

It truly sucks for the rising Juniors who will be in peak recruiting year next year.

I see one of a few options:

1. They actually go with a 2 Team ECNL structure similar to FC Stars or NC Courage/NCFC, everyone is happy

2. They go with huge rosters think 22 for U13 and 30 for U15 and older.

3. They go with modest rosters, 18-20 for lower age groups and offer everyone else Dual roster spots (think 10 per age group)

4. They do the right thing and take 18-20 and cut everyone else free or give them strict Non-Dual roster ECNL-RL offers which very few will take at U15 or above.


Who here thinks they'll do the right thing? anyone?

PDA has several teams in ECNL is any of these that great? Nope, why other clubs can’t mirror the PDA model?

Yes go as FDA black first team and FDA white second team, and avoid blue and green

[Anonymous]

Don’t see how this is a full club (rec through ECNL) merger. This has to be an ECNL teams merger, boys and girls, but would have to be controlled by 1 club/legal entity. Otherwise would just be a partnership or alliance with everyone able to take their toys and go home if they don’t like the results.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McLean carries HUGE rosters. I don't see how merging is going to work. How are you merging rosters of 30 with roster of 22. That's 52 kids. And, sorry, you can't tell in 2-3 ID sessions who is a 'main' player which also varies by coach's preferences and style of play. Where are all the excess kids going? Not sure at the recruiting years many will want lower than ECNL/GA/MLSn, etc.

It truly sucks for the rising Juniors who will be in peak recruiting year next year.

I see one of a few options:

1. They actually go with a 2 Team ECNL structure similar to FC Stars or NC Courage/NCFC, everyone is happy

2. They go with huge rosters think 22 for U13 and 30 for U15 and older.

3. They go with modest rosters, 18-20 for lower age groups and offer everyone else Dual roster spots (think 10 per age group)

4. They do the right thing and take 18-20 and cut everyone else free or give them strict Non-Dual roster ECNL-RL offers which very few will take at U15 or above.


Who here thinks they'll do the right thing? anyone?

PDA has several teams in ECNL is any of these that great? Nope, why other clubs can’t mirror the PDA model?

Yes their teams are good. their 2009 team has been national champion for two years now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:McLean carries HUGE rosters. I don't see how merging is going to work. How are you merging rosters of 30 with roster of 22. That's 52 kids. And, sorry, you can't tell in 2-3 ID sessions who is a 'main' player which also varies by coach's preferences and style of play. Where are all the excess kids going? Not sure at the recruiting years many will want lower than ECNL/GA/MLSn, etc.

It truly sucks for the rising Juniors who will be in peak recruiting year next year.

Yep, ECNL is handing these kids to the 3 GA clubs on a platter. Flowing 30-40 customers per age group towards the GA clubs. They may just succeed in making the GA clubs the preferred clubs in Fairfax County!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McLean carries HUGE rosters. I don't see how merging is going to work. How are you merging rosters of 30 with roster of 22. That's 52 kids. And, sorry, you can't tell in 2-3 ID sessions who is a 'main' player which also varies by coach's preferences and style of play. Where are all the excess kids going? Not sure at the recruiting years many will want lower than ECNL/GA/MLSn, etc.

It truly sucks for the rising Juniors who will be in peak recruiting year next year.

Yep, ECNL is handing these kids to the 3 GA clubs on a platter. Flowing 30-40 customers per age group towards the GA clubs. They may just succeed in making the GA clubs the preferred clubs in Fairfax County!

And don’t forget that SYC before partnering with McLean was successful sending kids to USNT or D1 colleges. The didn’t need ECNL or GA to develop top players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McLean carries HUGE rosters. I don't see how merging is going to work. How are you merging rosters of 30 with roster of 22. That's 52 kids. And, sorry, you can't tell in 2-3 ID sessions who is a 'main' player which also varies by coach's preferences and style of play. Where are all the excess kids going? Not sure at the recruiting years many will want lower than ECNL/GA/MLSn, etc.

It truly sucks for the rising Juniors who will be in peak recruiting year next year.

Yep, ECNL is handing these kids to the 3 GA clubs on a platter. Flowing 30-40 customers per age group towards the GA clubs. They may just succeed in making the GA clubs the preferred clubs in Fairfax County!

And don’t forget that SYC before partnering with McLean was successful sending kids to USNT or D1 colleges. The didn’t need ECNL or GA to develop top players.

This just isn’t true. SYC sending players to usynt? Haha

[Anonymous]

Consolidation and cutting players is the point. Not every kid on Brave or Union is playing at the ECNL level. Consolidate to keep the stronger players and yes players will be cut. They can go to GA or ECNL-RL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Consolidation and cutting players is the point. Not every kid on Brave or Union is playing at the ECNL level. Consolidate to keep the stronger players and yes players will be cut. They can go to GA or ECNL-RL.

Although true, it was meant for the boys side. The girls side is just collateral damage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McLean carries HUGE rosters. I don't see how merging is going to work. How are you merging rosters of 30 with roster of 22. That's 52 kids. And, sorry, you can't tell in 2-3 ID sessions who is a 'main' player which also varies by coach's preferences and style of play. Where are all the excess kids going? Not sure at the recruiting years many will want lower than ECNL/GA/MLSn, etc.

It truly sucks for the rising Juniors who will be in peak recruiting year next year.

Yep, ECNL is handing these kids to the 3 GA clubs on a platter. Flowing 30-40 customers per age group towards the GA clubs. They may just succeed in making the GA clubs the preferred clubs in Fairfax County!

And don’t forget that SYC before partnering with McLean was successful sending kids to USNT or D1 colleges. The didn’t need ECNL or GA to develop top players.

This just isn’t true. SYC sending players to usynt? Haha

I think they meant generally YNT. The main reason why SYC has been good immediately in MLSN and will rise with the tide that is GA's current vision of building infrastructure of smaller to medium size clubs who have a track record of developing talent at any cost and not doting to US soccer. Because soccer frankly just matter more to these families; and because SYC has always catered to those families that live, breath, and live close by SYC facilities. Mainly immigrant communities who do not care or even know about ECNL/GA is until its too late. Their country's YNT is far more significant achievement. Now everyone pretty much knows all the leagues and boom GA shows up at you doorstep and in a vulnerable position with mighty FCV falling apart in VA. Time will tell but SYC is Rising

Don't care about MD, cause Bethesda has all that on lock, but Coppermine is interesting too in the same SYC convo IMO

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Consolidation and cutting players is the point. Not every kid on Brave or Union is playing at the ECNL level. Consolidate to keep the stronger players and yes players will be cut. They can go to GA or ECNL-RL.

Exactly… they will be sending the weaker players right to GA.
I give them credit they are trying to do what they can to stay an Elite League.
I also acknowledge that it’s a crappy process for kids to have to go through. Especially the older ones. But as much as it hurts the ECNL is under no obligation to provide a spot for everyone. I just hope it’s as fair a process as possible.