Can I sue Callie Oettinger?

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Anonymous wrote:Need to get this on the news. If book bans and parents rights make the news, this should. Will be reaching out to every news outlet. This is so ANTI parents rights. Youngkin should go crazy about this and the attorney general for VA as well.

You're right, Callie totally violated parents' rights to determine what information about their child is posted publicly.

Stop selling a false narrative. This is dis-information.

DP. She did have all of the unredacted files and chose what to redact. She chose what information was released without any consent from the parents.

No child specific data was posted. Thanks.

There were some specifics on that link posted.

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Anonymous wrote:I assume she has all the original information with the names of our children. I say that because I got the letter today. I don't see why this isn't criminal. Like, if the bank gives you too much money, and you keep it, isn't that stealing? Callie, I hope you're reading this.

Her website is still up and running with all its data. How is it not shut down? I am ready to take legal action against her.

what "data" are you seeing on the website?

There is no data on her website. But there is a poster/posters repeatedly posting here that the data is available on Callie’s site to freak out parents.

I'm not that poster. There is redacted data on her website and on the journalist article, but I agree that there is no evidence that she has publicly posted data with kids' names online--whether it's identifiable in any other way I don't know.
What freaks me out is not that it's online, but that she inadvertently downloaded digital data with personal information of 35k kids that she has decided to hold onto and no one has no idea what she plans to do with it and who she's shared it with. So far from what I can understand from what she wrote it and the articles about it seems that she's at least shared it with a journalist and the Goldwater Institute lawyer guy. We also don't know where she's storing it--is it in cloud storage? Is it secure? The wording of the Reid letter is that she says she won't publicly share it online which doesn't say she's not storing it online or privately sharing it. I get the critique of FCPS--their data storage/privacy are CLEARLY inadequate--but what does HER holding onto people's private data have to do with that?

If she's not ill-intentioned towards the parents of FCPS children whose data she has, what I would hope she would provide is a some kind of a certified statement that to her knowledge she has destroyed all of the children's private data and not shared it with others (I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know what that kind of statement). Or at least provide a list of those others she has shared it with so we know where we stand.

For those of you who are defending her, I'd really like an honest answer of why she wouldn't do this--and why you think it's okay that she doesn't? The parents and the kids aren't the big, bad FCPS she's supposedly fighting. She would have much higher ground to stand on if she did this. It would re-focus attention on FCPS's flaws rather than her.

I don’t think anyone is defending her. I think we’re just on the side that she never should have gotten it. And fcps has a habit of doing this. Blaming Callie as the more responsible party is straight up false. The courts told fcps that last time it happened…with her. It feels like we’re defending her because there are so many crazies on here ready to sue for laws they hope to get passed some day because they’re super pissed. But they’re super pissed because they don’t like Callie had the info but not pissed fcps handed it over. And when you call that out, they cry they’re not legal experts and how dare you call out their ignorance because Callie is evil. It’s this circular argument the common sense people are trying to balance out the conversation, so the people who truly don’t know and are looking for rational answers aren’t misled by those who are just spouting nonsense and terrible analogies comparing what she did to murder.

NO ONE is saying FCPS is innocent or shouldn't be held accountable. She NEEDS to apologize, return all the flash drives, delete everything and so should the journalists. FCPS should be held accountable as well.

A lot of people are. When they use “inadvertent” and “oh, I’ll lobby them but sue her and throw her in jail”, it’s pretty one sided.

Ok. Parents should go after FCPS. What about Callie? Do you think she should be held accountable for her actions?

Nope, because a judge ruled if they give it to her, she has no obligation to give it back or not do anything with it. Laws can be changed but not retroactively. After spending tens of thousands of dollars on a lawsuit, losing and then making the same mistake a year later is the literal definition of insanity.

Now, if the law changes and it happens again, sure.

So you think it’s totally fine for her to share the partially redacted files?

Legal duty vs moral obligation. I wish she never had gotten access to the data, but here we are.

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Anonymous wrote:Need to get this on the news. If book bans and parents rights make the news, this should. Will be reaching out to every news outlet. This is so ANTI parents rights. Youngkin should go crazy about this and the attorney general for VA as well.

You're right, Callie totally violated parents' rights to determine what information about their child is posted publicly.

Stop selling a false narrative. This is dis-information.

DP. She did have all of the unredacted files and chose what to redact. She chose what information was released without any consent from the parents.

No child specific data was posted. Thanks.

There were some specifics on that link posted.

Oh I see. True, attorneys are someone’s kid too.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure that this woman tricked the person helping her to get all of this information. That was her goal. She didn’t really go in to just her her data. That is why she will be end up being criminally prosecuted. Because it was her intention all along to steal other peoples data.

Anyone who has interacted in any way with this woman knows her goal is to make life difficult for other people. I don't know why she gets off on making other people miserable, but her brain is apparently wired that way. If you look on facebook groups or reddit or here on DCUM, people have posted dozens of stories of her crying at HOA meetings about her rights being violated because non homeowners are allowed to buy pool memberships, school staff saying she came in threatening legal action against teachers before anything had even been done, FCPS employees saying she FOIAd hundreds of things a year and someone was assigned to handle her as basically a full time job because that's how much time it took. She loves to make others miserable and play victim.

So no, it wasn't a "trick". It was an "I will wear you down until you screw up because you are a poorly paid public servant who probably isn't the best at IT (or else you'd be off making twice the salary) and then I will gleefully gloat about how bad you are and how harmed I am and profit off of it."

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No good person would do this. Karma is coming.

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Pool membership - i don’t care. But you cannot mess w peoples children. NO ONE forgets that.

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Anonymous wrote:Need to get this on the news. If book bans and parents rights make the news, this should. Will be reaching out to every news outlet. This is so ANTI parents rights. Youngkin should go crazy about this and the attorney general for VA as well.

You're right, Callie totally violated parents' rights to determine what information about their child is posted publicly.

Stop selling a false narrative. This is dis-information.

DP. She did have all of the unredacted files and chose what to redact. She chose what information was released without any consent from the parents.

No child specific data was posted. Thanks.

There were some specifics on that link posted.

Oh I see. True, attorneys are someone’s kid too.

Yeah, and no one can find out which kid at your elementary school used which lawyer etc. for their IEP placement at that time period that is listed.

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Anonymous wrote:I assume she has all the original information with the names of our children. I say that because I got the letter today. I don't see why this isn't criminal. Like, if the bank gives you too much money, and you keep it, isn't that stealing? Callie, I hope you're reading this.

Her website is still up and running with all its data. How is it not shut down? I am ready to take legal action against her.

what "data" are you seeing on the website?

There is no data on her website. But there is a poster/posters repeatedly posting here that the data is available on Callie’s site to freak out parents.

I'm not that poster. There is redacted data on her website and on the journalist article, but I agree that there is no evidence that she has publicly posted data with kids' names online--whether it's identifiable in any other way I don't know.
What freaks me out is not that it's online, but that she inadvertently downloaded digital data with personal information of 35k kids that she has decided to hold onto and no one has no idea what she plans to do with it and who she's shared it with. So far from what I can understand from what she wrote it and the articles about it seems that she's at least shared it with a journalist and the Goldwater Institute lawyer guy. We also don't know where she's storing it--is it in cloud storage? Is it secure? The wording of the Reid letter is that she says she won't publicly share it online which doesn't say she's not storing it online or privately sharing it. I get the critique of FCPS--their data storage/privacy are CLEARLY inadequate--but what does HER holding onto people's private data have to do with that?

If she's not ill-intentioned towards the parents of FCPS children whose data she has, what I would hope she would provide is a some kind of a certified statement that to her knowledge she has destroyed all of the children's private data and not shared it with others (I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know what that kind of statement). Or at least provide a list of those others she has shared it with so we know where we stand.

For those of you who are defending her, I'd really like an honest answer of why she wouldn't do this--and why you think it's okay that she doesn't? The parents and the kids aren't the big, bad FCPS she's supposedly fighting. She would have much higher ground to stand on if she did this. It would re-focus attention on FCPS's flaws rather than her.

I don’t think anyone is defending her. I think we’re just on the side that she never should have gotten it. And fcps has a habit of doing this. Blaming Callie as the more responsible party is straight up false. The courts told fcps that last time it happened…with her. It feels like we’re defending her because there are so many crazies on here ready to sue for laws they hope to get passed some day because they’re super pissed. But they’re super pissed because they don’t like Callie had the info but not pissed fcps handed it over. And when you call that out, they cry they’re not legal experts and how dare you call out their ignorance because Callie is evil. It’s this circular argument the common sense people are trying to balance out the conversation, so the people who truly don’t know and are looking for rational answers aren’t misled by those who are just spouting nonsense and terrible analogies comparing what she did to murder.

NO ONE is saying FCPS is innocent or shouldn't be held accountable. She NEEDS to apologize, return all the flash drives, delete everything and so should the journalists. FCPS should be held accountable as well.

A lot of people are. When they use “inadvertent” and “oh, I’ll lobby them but sue her and throw her in jail”, it’s pretty one sided.

Ok. Parents should go after FCPS. What about Callie? Do you think she should be held accountable for her actions?

Nope, because a judge ruled if they give it to her, she has no obligation to give it back or not do anything with it. Laws can be changed but not retroactively. After spending tens of thousands of dollars on a lawsuit, losing and then making the same mistake a year later is the literal definition of insanity.

Now, if the law changes and it happens again, sure.

So you think it’s totally fine for her to share the partially redacted files?

You think it's totally fine that public schools in the US have essentially zero information security?

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure that this woman tricked the person helping her to get all of this information. That was her goal. She didn’t really go in to just her her data. That is why she will be end up being criminally prosecuted. Because it was her intention all along to steal other peoples data.

Anyone who has interacted in any way with this woman knows her goal is to make life difficult for other people. I don't know why she gets off on making other people miserable, but her brain is apparently wired that way. If you look on facebook groups or reddit or here on DCUM, people have posted dozens of stories of her crying at HOA meetings about her rights being violated because non homeowners are allowed to buy pool memberships, school staff saying she came in threatening legal action against teachers before anything had even been done, FCPS employees saying she FOIAd hundreds of things a year and someone was assigned to handle her as basically a full time job because that's how much time it took. She loves to make others miserable and play victim.

So no, it wasn't a "trick". It was an "I will wear you down until you screw up because you are a poorly paid public servant who probably isn't the best at IT (or else you'd be off making twice the salary) and then I will gleefully gloat about how bad you are and how harmed I am and profit off of it."

And now that person is apparently charged with a smear campaign?

A judge ordered them to hand over the data. This is on the school, not on her.

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Anonymous wrote:+10000000000000000

No good person would do this. Karma is coming.

Happy birthday Taylor Swift.

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Anonymous wrote:Whistleblowing= Whistleblowing is the activity of a person, often an employee, revealing information about activity within a private or public organization that is deemed illegal, immoral, illicit, unsafe or fraudulent. Whistleblowers can use a variety of internal or external channels to communicate information or allegations.

Callie is an American hero! I hope she will consider a run for public office!

+1. Nobody would be aware of fcps’s disdain for information security if not for Callie. An American treasure.

An American treasure? Stop! My sides hurt, (Callie? Jo-Anne? Elizabeth?) 🤣🤣🤣

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Anonymous wrote:Need to get this on the news. If book bans and parents rights make the news, this should. Will be reaching out to every news outlet. This is so ANTI parents rights. Youngkin should go crazy about this and the attorney general for VA as well.

You're right, Callie totally violated parents' rights to determine what information about their child is posted publicly.

Stop selling a false narrative. This is dis-information.

DP. She did have all of the unredacted files and chose what to redact. She chose what information was released without any consent from the parents.

No child specific data was posted. Thanks.

There were some specifics on that link posted.

Oh I see. True, attorneys are someone’s kid too.

Yeah, and no one can find out which kid at your elementary school used which lawyer etc. for their IEP placement at that time period that is listed.

Sure. If lawyers break attorney client privilege. But that would be 0 stars out of 10.

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Anonymous wrote:Whistleblowing= Whistleblowing is the activity of a person, often an employee, revealing information about activity within a private or public organization that is deemed illegal, immoral, illicit, unsafe or fraudulent. Whistleblowers can use a variety of internal or external channels to communicate information or allegations.

Callie is an American hero! I hope she will consider a run for public office!

+1. Nobody would be aware of fcps’s disdain for information security if not for Callie. An American treasure.

An American treasure? Stop! My sides hurt, (Callie? Jo-Anne? Elizabeth?) 🤣🤣🤣

Might be an appendicitis. You should have that checked out.

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Anonymous wrote:Whistleblowing= Whistleblowing is the activity of a person, often an employee, revealing information about activity within a private or public organization that is deemed illegal, immoral, illicit, unsafe or fraudulent. Whistleblowers can use a variety of internal or external channels to communicate information or allegations.

Callie is an American hero! I hope she will consider a run for public office!

+1. Nobody would be aware of fcps’s disdain for information security if not for Callie. An American treasure.

An American treasure? Stop! My sides hurt, (Callie? Jo-Anne? Elizabeth?) 🤣🤣🤣

Might be an appendicitis. You should have that checked out.

She said sides. Appendicitis typically presents right side only. Both sides, more likely a uti or costochondritis. Should still have a gp triage.

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Anonymous wrote:Whistleblowing= Whistleblowing is the activity of a person, often an employee, revealing information about activity within a private or public organization that is deemed illegal, immoral, illicit, unsafe or fraudulent. Whistleblowers can use a variety of internal or external channels to communicate information or allegations.

Callie is an American hero! I hope she will consider a run for public office!

+1. Nobody would be aware of fcps’s disdain for information security if not for Callie. An American treasure.

An American treasure? Stop! My sides hurt, (Callie? Jo-Anne? Elizabeth?) 🤣🤣🤣

Might be an appendicitis. You should have that checked out.

She said sides. Appendicitis typically presents right side only. Both sides, more likely a uti or costochondritis. Should still have a gp triage.

I suppose. Kidneys should be in the differential diagnosis as well. OP, how long has this been occurring? Sharp or dull pain? Any blood in your urine? Fever?