Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

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Anonymous wrote:This is a scary development, and I wish more people knew history. We will set a precedent in this country of prosecuting political rivals, and the republicans will do the same thing the next time a republican president is elected. And presidents will know that they can NEVER surrender power, since they’d be prosecuted after leaving office. So that will force them to seize dictatorial powers. This is exactly what happened with Julius Caesar and is how the Roman republic ended. Prosecuting political rivals will put us on the path to a civil war, which will end with one party authoritarian rule.

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This is a serious question. Are you assuming there is NO probable cause? What if there is probable cause - should they not raid bc he is a former president? What scenarios are you okay and not okay with this raid? Again, serious question.

Correct. They should not prosecute this “crime” precisely because he is a former president and prospective front runner. Because everyone knows that any prosecution is not actually about enforcing the Presidential Records Act, it is instead a pure power play. And power plays are returned in kind by the other side. This is exactly how civil wars start.

So any President can commit any crime whatsoever because investigating them could cause a civil war? That’s a recipe for a banana republic.

Do you think that there, just maybe, is a spectrum of criminal violations and that, if so, that records retention rules might be on the “not so important” end of that spectrum?

Honest question, if the next GOP president decides to audit every prominent Democrat and then charge many of them with tax code violations, would you think that would be ok? Do you see how prosecuting trump could set a precedent that could lead to things like that? Honest question.

Why are you so sure this raid is solely about the Presidential Records Act? That is the reason that has leaked publically, which is convenient for the Justice Dept because that investigation was already known. However, given the dangerous precedent you describe, it’s highly unlikely that Merrick Garland’s Justice Dept would execute a search warrant/ pursue an indictment solely based on the violation of the PRA. It’s possible there were multiple crimes cited on the warrant that haven’t leaked. It’s also possible that the content of the illegally taken documents implicates Trump on more serious charges. We will not know this until indictments come out. The Justice Dept hasn’t had any leaks before taking such dramatic action. They aren’t going to leak about other investigations and tip their hats.

Perhaps the “records retention act” violation was a pretext to grab all the documents they could find, to go on a fishing expedition to find other potential crimes to charge him with.

According to reports, the Archives was concerned about the nature and subject of missing documents that were so sensitiive that they could not be itemized in the warrant. This isn't a fishing expedition, that isn't how the warrants work. Stop watching Fox.

Really now?

Yes, the reports really say that.

Wow, she has such credentials!

What are yours?

The GOP is freaking out before they have all the information. This is exactly what they do to bills. They vote everything down before reading and having all the information. Something like 23 FBI agents participated in the search. They have a duty to refuse illegal orders. I’ve known many agents and am pretty sure all of them are conservative. That tells me there is something justified in the search warrant. Wait for more information before calling for sedition as one FL state lawmaker has.

You people posted a photo of a paper in the bottom of a toilet bowl as proof. And believe it. I don't know how I can help if that doesn't even raise any questions.

That’s not was submitted to the federal magistrate who signed the search warrant.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump's people did cooperate with turning over documents earlier in the year, then stopped cooperating, which is what lead to this raid.

It wasn't a raid. It was a court sanctioned reclaimation of government owned materials.

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Anonymous wrote:A few questions:
1) If there are some really incriminating documents, are Trump and his team stupid enough to leave them at MAL? What if the search doesn’t find them?

2) why in the name of all that is holy would Pence be defending the guy who tried to have him hanged???? What are the GOP rallying even more tightly? Don’t they know the FBI and judge would have done their homework, dotted their i’s and crossed their t’s? What’s the end game? Faux outrage to try to run the clock out until January when they hope they take the house and senate and shut down an important investigation?

Re: #2, to win GOP primaries, they have to appeal to the base, and the base is ride or die for Trump.

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Why in the name of all that is holy would Pence be defending the guy who tried to have him hanged????

His name is Reek.

Truest post in the history of DCUM!

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Anonymous wrote:Trump's new slogan: Defund the Police.

Next up: defund the military because the military brass think Trump is an idiot.


GOPs 5 point plan of action:

- Defund schools because they are teaching CRT and they are full of liberal elites. GOP only want uneducate people in the country because they are more gullible and easily fooled

- Fund Russia's invasion of Ukraine, or at least, don't help Ukraine.

- Defund NATO, thereby letting Russia takeover Europe

- Ignore white nationalist terrorists and ban abortions so that they can reverse the "Great Replacement". GOP already don't want the DoJ to investigate white nationalists organizations since they make up their base.

- Destabilize our democracy by questionning the legality of the elections; overwhelm State board of elections with ridiculous FIOA (already happening in AZ), and threaten election volunteer workers such that they can put their own operatives in there, then they can overthrow the election results in their favor (failed attempt on 1/6, but try again till they succeed.)

Sounds like a political thriller plot, except we are seeing it IRL play out in the ranks of the GOP.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump's new slogan: Defund the Police.

Holy carp, I was being sarcastic.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump's new slogan: Defund the Police.

Next up: defund the military because the military brass think Trump is an idiot.


GOPs 5 point plan of action:

- Defund schools because they are teaching CRT and they are full of liberal elites. GOP only want uneducate people in the country because they are more gullible and easily fooled

- Fund Russia's invasion of Ukraine, or at least, don't help Ukraine.

- Defund NATO, thereby letting Russia takeover Europe

- Ignore white nationalist terrorists and ban abortions so that they can reverse the "Great Replacement". GOP already don't want the DoJ to investigate white nationalists organizations since they make up their base.

- Destabilize our democracy by questionning the legality of the elections; overwhelm State board of elections with ridiculous FIOA (already happening in AZ), and threaten election volunteer workers such that they can put their own operatives in there, then they can overthrow the election results in their favor (failed attempt on 1/6, but try again till they succeed.)

Sounds like a political thriller plot, except we are seeing it IRL play out in the ranks of the GOP.

Ah yes, defund the FBI. I thought the R's "backed the blue", no?

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Anonymous wrote:Trump's new slogan: Defund the Police.

Holy carp, I was being sarcastic.

This will be the next effort

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Trump continue to refuse to return all the documents? What is he hiding?

This. I know he thinks rules don’t apply to him but I can’t game out in my head why he wouldn’t return the docs.

Because he hadn’t gotten the highest price for them yet.

Assuming that, he was in the White House for four years- how could he possibly think no one would find out and take action?

Because he’s been pulling shady shit his entire life and no one has ever properly held him accountable? Just a guess.

It's this. He's never been made accountable for any of his sh*t. Nothing ever sticks & doesn't ever expect it to. He just lies, blusters and sues his way out of everything.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump's new slogan: Defund the Police.

Holy carp, I was being sarcastic.

Is "holy carp" a typo or is just a fantastic expression I will be using the rest of my life?

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Anonymous wrote:Trump's new slogan: Defund the Police.

Holy carp, I was being sarcastic.

Is "holy carp" a typo or is just a fantastic expression I will be using the rest of my life?

Both

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Trump has to have a new grievance to rally the MAGA zombies to the polls.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a scary development, and I wish more people knew history. We will set a precedent in this country of prosecuting political rivals, and the republicans will do the same thing the next time a republican president is elected. And presidents will know that they can NEVER surrender power, since they’d be prosecuted after leaving office. So that will force them to seize dictatorial powers. This is exactly what happened with Julius Caesar and is how the Roman republic ended. Prosecuting political rivals will put us on the path to a civil war, which will end with one party authoritarian rule.

+1

This is a serious question. Are you assuming there is NO probable cause? What if there is probable cause - should they not raid bc he is a former president? What scenarios are you okay and not okay with this raid? Again, serious question.

Correct. They should not prosecute this “crime” precisely because he is a former president and prospective front runner. Because everyone knows that any prosecution is not actually about enforcing the Presidential Records Act, it is instead a pure power play. And power plays are returned in kind by the other side. This is exactly how civil wars start.

So any President can commit any crime whatsoever because investigating them could cause a civil war? That’s a recipe for a banana republic.

Do you think that there, just maybe, is a spectrum of criminal violations and that, if so, that records retention rules might be on the “not so important” end of that spectrum?

Honest question, if the next GOP president decides to audit every prominent Democrat and then charge many of them with tax code violations, would you think that would be ok? Do you see how prosecuting trump could set a precedent that could lead to things like that? Honest question.

Why are you so sure this raid is solely about the Presidential Records Act? That is the reason that has leaked publically, which is convenient for the Justice Dept because that investigation was already known. However, given the dangerous precedent you describe, it’s highly unlikely that Merrick Garland’s Justice Dept would execute a search warrant/ pursue an indictment solely based on the violation of the PRA. It’s possible there were multiple crimes cited on the warrant that haven’t leaked. It’s also possible that the content of the illegally taken documents implicates Trump on more serious charges. We will not know this until indictments come out. The Justice Dept hasn’t had any leaks before taking such dramatic action. They aren’t going to leak about other investigations and tip their hats.

Perhaps the “records retention act” violation was a pretext to grab all the documents they could find, to go on a fishing expedition to find other potential crimes to charge him with.

According to reports, the Archives was concerned about the nature and subject of missing documents that were so sensitiive that they could not be itemized in the warrant. This isn't a fishing expedition, that isn't how the warrants work. Stop watching Fox.

Really now?

Yes, the reports really say that.

Wow, she has such credentials!

What are yours?

The GOP is freaking out before they have all the information. This is exactly what they do to bills. They vote everything down before reading and having all the information. Something like 23 FBI agents participated in the search. They have a duty to refuse illegal orders. I’ve known many agents and am pretty sure all of them are conservative. That tells me there is something justified in the search warrant. Wait for more information before calling for sedition as one FL state lawmaker has.

You people posted a photo of a paper in the bottom of a toilet bowl as proof. And believe it. I don't know how I can help if that doesn't even raise any questions.

That’s not was submitted to the federal magistrate who signed the search warrant.

Never said it was. I'm just surprised so many here just take things at face value.

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What is his excuse for having these documents in the first place? Why would he need to remove "top secret" documents from the white house when his presidency ended? what was he planning on doing them?

When Obama left he did not take stacks of classified materials with him.