MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think we are losing teachers to other systems as much as we are losing teachers to other jobs, or just retiring early. There was a post on here a while ago from someone saying she was leaving teaching to get an office job at like a PR firm or something like that. If you are in your 20s and can pivot over to one of the many office type jobs that pay decently where you don’t have to be on your feet talking 6 hours a day and dodging pencils and stuff kids throw at you and breathing in the smell of 35 sweaty teenagers all day long while they make fun of the way you dress or speak…..yeah, that’s attractive.
I don’t know if they are doing exit interviews and what people say about the pay versus other issues. I think they need to raise the pay 25%, fix the cap on laterals coming in from other systems (particularly given how many families move to this area from other locations—we are losing out on a lot of training spouse teachers!), and stop giving them lots of new curriculum directives without sufficient time to train on them or create new materials for them.

I think the pandemic was tough on teachers, especially with the Karens constantly ridiculing them.

I read a few pages of this thread. I didn't see anyone jumping on the teachers.

However, I did see a lot of comments how MCPS leadership has failed and are doing a terrible job.

I also think it's shocking that someone in MCPS leadership believe that disenfranchising 40 kids in their senior year of HS (where a lot of memories are made) was a good idea. It just goes to show just how out-of-touch the people making decisions are.

I really hope that all board incumbents are voted out this year. They've done nothing to put a stop to all these bad decisions being made. They need to grow a spine and call out everyone in public hearings for this kind of thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think we are losing teachers to other systems as much as we are losing teachers to other jobs, or just retiring early. There was a post on here a while ago from someone saying she was leaving teaching to get an office job at like a PR firm or something like that. If you are in your 20s and can pivot over to one of the many office type jobs that pay decently where you don’t have to be on your feet talking 6 hours a day and dodging pencils and stuff kids throw at you and breathing in the smell of 35 sweaty teenagers all day long while they make fun of the way you dress or speak…..yeah, that’s attractive.
I don’t know if they are doing exit interviews and what people say about the pay versus other issues. I think they need to raise the pay 25%, fix the cap on laterals coming in from other systems (particularly given how many families move to this area from other locations—we are losing out on a lot of training spouse teachers!), and stop giving them lots of new curriculum directives without sufficient time to train on them or create new materials for them.

I think the pandemic was tough on teachers, especially with the Karens constantly ridiculing them.

I read a few pages of this thread. I didn't see anyone jumping on the teachers.

However, I did see a lot of comments how MCPS leadership has failed and are doing a terrible job.

I also think it's shocking that someone in MCPS leadership believe that disenfranchising 40 kids in their senior year of HS (where a lot of memories are made) was a good idea. It just goes to show just how out-of-touch the people making decisions are.

I really hope that all board incumbents are voted out this year. They've done nothing to put a stop to all these bad decisions being made. They need to grow a spine and call out everyone in public hearings for this kind of thing.

Sometimes you're stuck with making the least bad choices. Not all problems have good solutions. Sucks to be in leadership sometimes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think we are losing teachers to other systems as much as we are losing teachers to other jobs, or just retiring early. There was a post on here a while ago from someone saying she was leaving teaching to get an office job at like a PR firm or something like that. If you are in your 20s and can pivot over to one of the many office type jobs that pay decently where you don’t have to be on your feet talking 6 hours a day and dodging pencils and stuff kids throw at you and breathing in the smell of 35 sweaty teenagers all day long while they make fun of the way you dress or speak…..yeah, that’s attractive.
I don’t know if they are doing exit interviews and what people say about the pay versus other issues. I think they need to raise the pay 25%, fix the cap on laterals coming in from other systems (particularly given how many families move to this area from other locations—we are losing out on a lot of training spouse teachers!), and stop giving them lots of new curriculum directives without sufficient time to train on them or create new materials for them.

I think the pandemic was tough on teachers, especially with the Karens constantly ridiculing them.

I read a few pages of this thread. I didn't see anyone jumping on the teachers.

However, I did see a lot of comments how MCPS leadership has failed and are doing a terrible job.

I also think it's shocking that someone in MCPS leadership believe that disenfranchising 40 kids in their senior year of HS (where a lot of memories are made) was a good idea. It just goes to show just how out-of-touch the people making decisions are.

I really hope that all board incumbents are voted out this year. They've done nothing to put a stop to all these bad decisions being made. They need to grow a spine and call out everyone in public hearings for this kind of thing.

Sometimes you're stuck with making the least bad choices. Not all problems have good solutions. Sucks to be in leadership sometimes.

Tell that to each one of the kids that were screwed while looking into their eyes.

Whomever made that decision is a real scumbag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think we are losing teachers to other systems as much as we are losing teachers to other jobs, or just retiring early. There was a post on here a while ago from someone saying she was leaving teaching to get an office job at like a PR firm or something like that. If you are in your 20s and can pivot over to one of the many office type jobs that pay decently where you don’t have to be on your feet talking 6 hours a day and dodging pencils and stuff kids throw at you and breathing in the smell of 35 sweaty teenagers all day long while they make fun of the way you dress or speak…..yeah, that’s attractive.
I don’t know if they are doing exit interviews and what people say about the pay versus other issues. I think they need to raise the pay 25%, fix the cap on laterals coming in from other systems (particularly given how many families move to this area from other locations—we are losing out on a lot of training spouse teachers!), and stop giving them lots of new curriculum directives without sufficient time to train on them or create new materials for them.

I think the pandemic was tough on teachers, especially with the Karens constantly ridiculing them.

I read a few pages of this thread. I didn't see anyone jumping on the teachers.

However, I did see a lot of comments how MCPS leadership has failed and are doing a terrible job.

I also think it's shocking that someone in MCPS leadership believe that disenfranchising 40 kids in their senior year of HS (where a lot of memories are made) was a good idea. It just goes to show just how out-of-touch the people making decisions are.

I really hope that all board incumbents are voted out this year. They've done nothing to put a stop to all these bad decisions being made. They need to grow a spine and call out everyone in public hearings for this kind of thing.

Sometimes you're stuck with making the least bad choices. Not all problems have good solutions. Sucks to be in leadership sometimes.

Didn’t stop you from depositing that fat Central Office paycheck. No one ever talks about the money these school ‘leaders’ bring in. Oh they manage billions and should be paid more. Bunk! Most of it is on auto pay / including their pay…that’s the problem. Need good inspector general focused on MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think we are losing teachers to other systems as much as we are losing teachers to other jobs, or just retiring early. There was a post on here a while ago from someone saying she was leaving teaching to get an office job at like a PR firm or something like that. If you are in your 20s and can pivot over to one of the many office type jobs that pay decently where you don’t have to be on your feet talking 6 hours a day and dodging pencils and stuff kids throw at you and breathing in the smell of 35 sweaty teenagers all day long while they make fun of the way you dress or speak…..yeah, that’s attractive.
I don’t know if they are doing exit interviews and what people say about the pay versus other issues. I think they need to raise the pay 25%, fix the cap on laterals coming in from other systems (particularly given how many families move to this area from other locations—we are losing out on a lot of training spouse teachers!), and stop giving them lots of new curriculum directives without sufficient time to train on them or create new materials for them.

I think the pandemic was tough on teachers, especially with the Karens constantly ridiculing them.

I read a few pages of this thread. I didn't see anyone jumping on the teachers.

However, I did see a lot of comments how MCPS leadership has failed and are doing a terrible job.

I also think it's shocking that someone in MCPS leadership believe that disenfranchising 40 kids in their senior year of HS (where a lot of memories are made) was a good idea. It just goes to show just how out-of-touch the people making decisions are.

I really hope that all board incumbents are voted out this year. They've done nothing to put a stop to all these bad decisions being made. They need to grow a spine and call out everyone in public hearings for this kind of thing.

This is laughable. Parents have screamed, name called and derided the “stupid, selfish teachers” on these boards for over two years. How DARE those uppity teachers not give them exactly what they want, at all times and under all conditions! Evil! Holding kids hostage! Fire them all!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think we are losing teachers to other systems as much as we are losing teachers to other jobs, or just retiring early. There was a post on here a while ago from someone saying she was leaving teaching to get an office job at like a PR firm or something like that. If you are in your 20s and can pivot over to one of the many office type jobs that pay decently where you don’t have to be on your feet talking 6 hours a day and dodging pencils and stuff kids throw at you and breathing in the smell of 35 sweaty teenagers all day long while they make fun of the way you dress or speak…..yeah, that’s attractive.
I don’t know if they are doing exit interviews and what people say about the pay versus other issues. I think they need to raise the pay 25%, fix the cap on laterals coming in from other systems (particularly given how many families move to this area from other locations—we are losing out on a lot of training spouse teachers!), and stop giving them lots of new curriculum directives without sufficient time to train on them or create new materials for them.

I think the pandemic was tough on teachers, especially with the Karens constantly ridiculing them.

I read a few pages of this thread. I didn't see anyone jumping on the teachers.

However, I did see a lot of comments how MCPS leadership has failed and are doing a terrible job.

I also think it's shocking that someone in MCPS leadership believe that disenfranchising 40 kids in their senior year of HS (where a lot of memories are made) was a good idea. It just goes to show just how out-of-touch the people making decisions are.

I really hope that all board incumbents are voted out this year. They've done nothing to put a stop to all these bad decisions being made. They need to grow a spine and call out everyone in public hearings for this kind of thing.

Sometimes you're stuck with making the least bad choices. Not all problems have good solutions. Sucks to be in leadership sometimes.

Tell that to each one of the kids that were screwed while looking into their eyes.

Whomever made that decision is a real scumbag.

Oh, the melodrama of it all!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think we are losing teachers to other systems as much as we are losing teachers to other jobs, or just retiring early. There was a post on here a while ago from someone saying she was leaving teaching to get an office job at like a PR firm or something like that. If you are in your 20s and can pivot over to one of the many office type jobs that pay decently where you don’t have to be on your feet talking 6 hours a day and dodging pencils and stuff kids throw at you and breathing in the smell of 35 sweaty teenagers all day long while they make fun of the way you dress or speak…..yeah, that’s attractive.
I don’t know if they are doing exit interviews and what people say about the pay versus other issues. I think they need to raise the pay 25%, fix the cap on laterals coming in from other systems (particularly given how many families move to this area from other locations—we are losing out on a lot of training spouse teachers!), and stop giving them lots of new curriculum directives without sufficient time to train on them or create new materials for them.

I think the pandemic was tough on teachers, especially with the Karens constantly ridiculing them.

I read a few pages of this thread. I didn't see anyone jumping on the teachers.

However, I did see a lot of comments how MCPS leadership has failed and are doing a terrible job.

I also think it's shocking that someone in MCPS leadership believe that disenfranchising 40 kids in their senior year of HS (where a lot of memories are made) was a good idea. It just goes to show just how out-of-touch the people making decisions are.

I really hope that all board incumbents are voted out this year. They've done nothing to put a stop to all these bad decisions being made. They need to grow a spine and call out everyone in public hearings for this kind of thing.

Sometimes you're stuck with making the least bad choices. Not all problems have good solutions. Sucks to be in leadership sometimes.

Didn’t stop you from depositing that fat Central Office paycheck. No one ever talks about the money these school ‘leaders’ bring in. Oh they manage billions and should be paid more. Bunk! Most of it is on auto pay / including their pay…that’s the problem. Need good inspector general focused on MCPS.

Nice try. I'm a SpEd para and parent of SN kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think we are losing teachers to other systems as much as we are losing teachers to other jobs, or just retiring early. There was a post on here a while ago from someone saying she was leaving teaching to get an office job at like a PR firm or something like that. If you are in your 20s and can pivot over to one of the many office type jobs that pay decently where you don’t have to be on your feet talking 6 hours a day and dodging pencils and stuff kids throw at you and breathing in the smell of 35 sweaty teenagers all day long while they make fun of the way you dress or speak…..yeah, that’s attractive.
I don’t know if they are doing exit interviews and what people say about the pay versus other issues. I think they need to raise the pay 25%, fix the cap on laterals coming in from other systems (particularly given how many families move to this area from other locations—we are losing out on a lot of training spouse teachers!), and stop giving them lots of new curriculum directives without sufficient time to train on them or create new materials for them.

I think the pandemic was tough on teachers, especially with the Karens constantly ridiculing them.

I read a few pages of this thread. I didn't see anyone jumping on the teachers.

However, I did see a lot of comments how MCPS leadership has failed and are doing a terrible job.

I also think it's shocking that someone in MCPS leadership believe that disenfranchising 40 kids in their senior year of HS (where a lot of memories are made) was a good idea. It just goes to show just how out-of-touch the people making decisions are.

I really hope that all board incumbents are voted out this year. They've done nothing to put a stop to all these bad decisions being made. They need to grow a spine and call out everyone in public hearings for this kind of thing.

Sometimes you're stuck with making the least bad choices. Not all problems have good solutions. Sucks to be in leadership sometimes.

Tell that to each one of the kids that were screwed while looking into their eyes.

Whomever made that decision is a real scumbag.

Oh, the melodrama of it all!

I hope you don't work for MCPS?

If you lack the empathy to see anything wrong with moving 40 kids involuntarily from the High School they just spent three years at, you really shouldn't be around children.

[Anonymous]

MCEA president Jennifer Martin testimony today at BOE meeting.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n72SNz8KHgDsrZhHmL8cGq6vRIkzCzBj/view
Not as combative a tone at the email to MCEA members (thankfully).

Also, the hiring popup on the MCPS website has changed to include the # of open teaching positions.

Open Teaching Positions:
Fulltime 377 | Part time 162

Instead of complaining here on DCUM about problems, be part of the solution - Apply today!

[Anonymous]

Why would anyone be a teacher when pay is trash and all of your kids suck? Plus, you the parents are creatin lowlife scum who fail to discipline your crotch demons.

Teaching = glorified baby sitter these days. Don't sugar coat it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone be a teacher when pay is trash and all of your kids suck? Plus, you the parents are creatin lowlife scum who fail to discipline your crotch demons.

Teaching = glorified baby sitter these days. Don't sugar coat it.

Home schooler?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone be a teacher when pay is trash and all of your kids suck? Plus, you the parents are creatin lowlife scum who fail to discipline your crotch demons.

Teaching = glorified baby sitter these days. Don't sugar coat it.

Step back from the 'bored teachers'. It's not all doom and gloom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think we are losing teachers to other systems as much as we are losing teachers to other jobs, or just retiring early. There was a post on here a while ago from someone saying she was leaving teaching to get an office job at like a PR firm or something like that. If you are in your 20s and can pivot over to one of the many office type jobs that pay decently where you don’t have to be on your feet talking 6 hours a day and dodging pencils and stuff kids throw at you and breathing in the smell of 35 sweaty teenagers all day long while they make fun of the way you dress or speak…..yeah, that’s attractive.
I don’t know if they are doing exit interviews and what people say about the pay versus other issues. I think they need to raise the pay 25%, fix the cap on laterals coming in from other systems (particularly given how many families move to this area from other locations—we are losing out on a lot of training spouse teachers!), and stop giving them lots of new curriculum directives without sufficient time to train on them or create new materials for them.

I think the pandemic was tough on teachers, especially with the Karens constantly ridiculing them.

I read a few pages of this thread. I didn't see anyone jumping on the teachers.

However, I did see a lot of comments how MCPS leadership has failed and are doing a terrible job.

I also think it's shocking that someone in MCPS leadership believe that disenfranchising 40 kids in their senior year of HS (where a lot of memories are made) was a good idea. It just goes to show just how out-of-touch the people making decisions are.

I really hope that all board incumbents are voted out this year. They've done nothing to put a stop to all these bad decisions being made. They need to grow a spine and call out everyone in public hearings for this kind of thing.

Sometimes you're stuck with making the least bad choices. Not all problems have good solutions. Sucks to be in leadership sometimes.

Didn’t stop you from depositing that fat Central Office paycheck. No one ever talks about the money these school ‘leaders’ bring in. Oh they manage billions and should be paid more. Bunk! Most of it is on auto pay / including their pay…that’s the problem. Need good inspector general focused on MCPS.

Yes, let's create even more CO jobs and their staffs!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Olney area schools, Magruder and Damascus area well known to have very little turnover due to affordable local housing options and relatively easy commutes from Frederick Co and Howard Counties. Once staff get a job there, they rarely leave.

Have you been keeping up with the thread about involuntary transfers happening in large numbers this week at Sherwood?

Here's an example...

From what I’ve read, it’s about 40 SENIORS who were informed that they will now have to attend their home school. These are students who have been part of this ELL program for the past few years. These are students who are part of the school community, participate in sports/extra curricular activities at the school, have relationships with staff and students, etc. The program was being phased out, but from what I understand these students were told they would be allowed to stay for their senior year. That’s now been taken away. These students generally don’t have parents who are squeaky wheels. Who is advocating for them? How is this what’s best for these kids? From what I’ve read (from teachers from this school), these seniors were notified this week about this abrupt change. This is the reason for some staff being involuntarily transferred.


The twitter below belongs to a teacher a teacher who has been at Sherwood for a number of years...
https://mobile.twitter.com/CoachGrier/status/1550444005841944577

Sounds like they're doing their best to proactively address the teacher shortages caused by burnout after the global pandemic.

Its no longer a global pandemic. School was fully in person last year and everyone pretended like the pandemic was over. This is a bigger issue than covid.

I guess you weren't around last year.

[Anonymous]

Good grief. Negotiate with MCEA to loosen the grip when there are so many spots to fill. Allow for consulting billets with negotiable contract flexibilities (salary/differential benefits/no MCEA membership requirement) for these; maintain only the essential requirements for these. Ensure they only cover time periods of high vacancy or specializations with low teaching supply to keep the union from feeling undercut.

Address the real labor market condition.