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Last couple of posters are saying a lot of words, but not sure their point. Lively team tried to get their website shut down. They were fine publishing a lengthy New York Times article that they had spent months working on, but when he tried to provide his side, they tried to get it shut down.
The federal judge said no, and even made a statement something like both sides are able to tell their story. Just wild that there’s even a discussion on this. She went through all this expense, all this bad publicity, tons of embarrassing texts and emails that have come out, the Sony team blatantly insulting her and talking about how she’ll never work again, emails from distributors who were selling her products saying they didn’t want to work with her anymore, all to end up with nothing to show for it. Not one celebrity, even the sisterhood girls or her supposed best friend Taylor, have come out with kind of support or even been willing to be seen with her and it’s been weeks. I’m obviously not a fan but even I feel a little sorry for her. This just couldn’t have gone worse for her. I truly don’t know what she and her team were thinking. |
When you don’t have facts or law on your side, resort to insults and misplaced claims of misogyny. Sad that the Blake bots have nothing else to argue beyond some women are stupid. |
| Ryan's and especially Blake's appearances are so desperate and paid for. Literally nobody is "checking for" them. They really suck at this. That said, I don't think there's any silver bullet to repair their image at their advanced ages. It's just... over. And of course they can't admit that, so get used to increasing desperation from both of them, until Ryan likely blames and divorces her and... that still doesn't work. |
Who cares at this point? Certainly not wayfarer. They did what they needed to do. Blake spent 4 months plotting with the ny times and went as far as filing a sham lawsuit to issue a sham subpoena to deny the defendants of their rights to file a motion to quash. Had Justin simply responded to her complaint he would have been extremely limited in getting his side of the story out. Blake did everything she could to silence wayfarer and have everything sealed. Filing their own complaint was the best way for them to be able to tell their side. They knew the risks. They didn’t care. The nyt is suing for 150k in fees. Who cares?! Blake lost her 400M lawsuit and is now trying to recover what at best would also be a few 100k in fees. You people are being intentionally dense. This was the easiest trade off on the planet for wayfarer to make. |
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Weirdly, I guess to quiet the divorce rumors Blake put a picture on her story of she and Ryan enjoying a hot summer day. Only people have pointed out the photo is from 2024.
It’s super obvious too. If you have seen Ryan lately, he’s lost a lot of weight with people even speculating he’s on a weight loss drug. In this picture, he is in a sleeveless shirt. He’s clearly jacked, it’s from his Deadpool training. She also just looks different. It’s just so clearly from a couple years ago - such a weird choice. They can’t even sit together long enough to take a more recent pic? |
Great summary and spot on |
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Liman has requested briefing and a very interesting question on the 47.1 motion -- he wants the parties to argue who has the burden of proof as to showing a communication is privileged under the law, and whether that burden shifts depending on whether the defendant is pursuing attorneys fees versus treble or punitive damages. He also wants to address whether the burden changes when relief is sought under 47.1 pursuant to the federal rules (as opposed to a defendant seeking relief in CA courts under CA law).
This would indicate that he doesn't intend to dispose of the motion quickly on technical grounds, and that he does intend to make a ruling on the merits. It's really interesting because there is no case law on 47.1, which means the briefs and arguments on this issue will be novel as well. The parties will need to produce analogous cases (where similar state laws have been applied in federal courts) to support their arguments. A fun one for federal civil procedure nerds. |
| ^ should say he requested briefing and a hearing on this issue. Hearing is schedule for Monday, briefs are due Sunday night. Strict page limit. |
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Didn't they also agree this one couldn't be appealed? So the precedential value of Liman's decision will be limited.
I don't see how the burden of proof for the privilege wouldn't be on the defendant, Lively. Plaintiffs had the burden of proof to prove their defamation allegations, which were dismissed, but under a different privilege. It would be Lively I'd think, who has to prove they were privileged under 47.1. The obvious sticking point is the "without malice" part. I have always thought you do need an evidentiary hearing for that. It's a question of fact. If Lively v. Wayfarer had gone to trial and she'd won a jury verdict on SH, that should have been enough to show it was without malice and had a reasonable basis, but that settled, so no such findings ever occurred. I think she has to make an initial showing that the underlying events occurred and that she she had a reasonable, good faith belief to file the CRD. And then Wayfarer would have to rebut with the stealing the movie stuff, and someone needs to decide which story is true. I don't really understand why Liman is asking who bears the burden when to me the question is how do you make the fndings of fact. Do you do it on the pleadings, an evidentiary hearing, even a trial? |
Not necessarily, he can rule that given the existing record, she hasn’t met the burden. She did chose to get dismiss her case with prejudice, |
| So Liman decided to hop back into the hot tub with Gottlieb? |
No, it doesn’t seem so. |
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The judge’s order is interesting because he is clearly stuck on the interplay between California Rule 41.7 and Fed. R.Civ. P. 54 (which generally talks about attorney’s fees). Old friend Charlie Babcock, in the Texas case, brought a recently decided Supreme Court case to that federal court:
Similarly, the Supreme Court recently decided Berk v. Choy , which addressed a state statute about pleading requirements for medical malpractice suits. 146 S. Ct. at 553–54. Because that procedural statute conflicted with the pleading requirements of Rule 8, the Supreme Court held that the state procedural law must yield to the federal rules. Id. at 554. So too here. Lively’s request to determine her privilege defense under California Civil Code Section 47.1(a) conflicts with the plain meaning of Rule 12(b)(2), which limits courts to making jurisdictional findings of fact in deciding motions to dismiss for lack of personal jurisdiction. See Bickham , 584 F.2d at 737. Thus, the California procedural law must yield. Liman seems to have the same doubts about 47.1 and Rule 54. Note that if he thinks the two aren’t compatible, he has a “new” ground for rejecting Blake’s claim, one that lets him escape actually applying 47.1 here. |
I mean, knowing who bears what burden, especially on the malice issue, will help clarify how you fact find. I think it's likely that Lively and potentially others will need to testify as to this issue, because malice is a question of intent. But how that testimony will go depends on who has the burden of either showing malice or proving her claims were brought without malice. I agree Lively will have the burden on the privileged communication portion. That seems obvious, it's her motion, but the way Liman has framed it, by asking how federal rules come into it, is throwing me. |
This isn’t an indicator of anything. He’s just being thorough. Even if he rules 47.1 doesn’t apply b/c it’s a California law and the movie was filmed in New Jersey (or some other reason), he’ll still do a full legal analysis saying “even if it did” plaintiff hasn’t met her burden of without malice or there’s enough to suggest good faith but doesn’t matter b/c 47.1 doesn’t apply. He did the same when he dismissed Lively’s case. Remember ALA doesn’t apply, lively also wasn’t an employee, and even if she was these facts don’t meet threshold for SH. He’s just looking for the facts he needs to write a thorough motion. |